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Pitra-Rin

 

Since we enjoy the wealth, name and fame earned by our

ancestors we are equally liable to suffer their misdeeds too. The

dosh created as a result of the bad deeds of our ancestors is paitrik-

dosh or pitra-rin or pitra-shrap. Even in the legal system we are

held responsible for the debts of our forefathers similarly in

astrology too we have to pay their debts. Brahat parashar gives 14

kinds of pitra-shrap, Mantreshwar in phal deepika says that rahu in

the 5th creates pishach-badha, Gopal Ratnakar calls it sarp-shrap. In

the traditional vedic astrology Rahu is considered the main cause of

these dosh .

Lal Kitab in its 1952 edition discusses this problem in great

detail along with its remedies . I quote from Lal Kitab :

 

 

{ ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha,

budh baitha jad sathi ho ;

rin pitri us ghar se hoga ,

asar grah sab nisphal ho ;

saathi grah jab jad koi kate ,

drishti magar wo chhupta ho

paanch ,barah, do, nau koi mande,

rin pitri ban jaata ho }

 

 

The lines above describe these three conditions of pitra-rin:

 

[ 1 ] ' ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha , budh baitha jad saathi

ho ' ---- If there is a grah in the 9th house and Mercury occupies

the rashi of that grah then it will be a pitr-rin kundali. For

example jupiter is in the 9th house and if Mercury is in either

sagittarius or pisces , or venus is in the 9th and mercury is in

taurus or libra .

 

[ 2 ] ' saathi grah jab jad koi kate , drishti magar wo chhuptaa

ho ' --- when the enemy planets occupy a rashi and is not aspected by

the rashi lord , the kundali will be of pitr-rin. For example if the

enemy planets of saturn like sun , moon or mars occupy either makar

or kumbha and if not aspected by saturn .

 

[ 3 ] 'paanch barah nau do koi mande , rin pitra ban jaata ho' --- if

there is an enemy planet of Jupiter like venus or mercury in the

5th , 12th , 9th and 2nd then also it will be a pitr-rin kundali .

 

 

The Lal kitab suggests remedies in detail for pitr-rin arising out of

such situations . It provides the detailed cause of these debts , the

grah involved and its remedies. I have not seen such a detail in any

other book on astrology.

 

With regards

upadhyay

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OM Gurave Namah

 

Dear upadhyay,

 

You wrote:

 

>Since we enjoy the wealth, name and fame earned by our

> ancestors we are equally liable to suffer their misdeeds too. The

> dosh created as a result of the bad deeds of our ancestors is

> paitrik-dosh or pitra-rin or pitra-shrap.

 

You are talking about 2 things here Pitra-Rin and Pitra-Shapa.

I think these 2 are different issues all-together.

 

Pitra-Shapa --- is the wrath of our ancestors on us. May be we caused

some sorrow to them and they got angry or we didn't do the their last

rites or don't perform the Shraadh etc.

 

Pitra-Rin is correct what you described that if father has some loans

it becomes liability/duty of son to repay it.

 

So these 2 should be understand in different context.

 

regards

 

Vikram

 

vedic astrology, "upadhyay_iitd"

<upadhyay_iitd> wrote:

>

> Pitra-Rin

>

> Since we enjoy the wealth, name and fame earned by our

> ancestors we are equally liable to suffer their misdeeds too. The

> dosh created as a result of the bad deeds of our ancestors is

paitrik-

> dosh or pitra-rin or pitra-shrap. Even in the legal system we are

> held responsible for the debts of our forefathers similarly in

> astrology too we have to pay their debts. Brahat parashar gives 14

> kinds of pitra-shrap, Mantreshwar in phal deepika says that rahu in

> the 5th creates pishach-badha, Gopal Ratnakar calls it sarp-shrap.

In

> the traditional vedic astrology Rahu is considered the main cause

of

> these dosh .

> Lal Kitab in its 1952 edition discusses this problem in

great

> detail along with its remedies . I quote from Lal Kitab :

>

>

> { ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha,

> budh baitha jad sathi ho ;

> rin pitri us ghar se hoga ,

> asar grah sab nisphal ho ;

> saathi grah jab jad koi kate ,

> drishti magar wo chhupta ho

> paanch ,barah, do, nau koi mande,

> rin pitri ban jaata ho }

>

>

> The lines above describe these three conditions of pitra-rin:

>

> [ 1 ] ' ghar nauve ho koi grah baitha , budh baitha jad saathi

> ho ' ---- If there is a grah in the 9th house and Mercury occupies

> the rashi of that grah then it will be a pitr-rin kundali. For

> example jupiter is in the 9th house and if Mercury is in either

> sagittarius or pisces , or venus is in the 9th and mercury is in

> taurus or libra .

>

> [ 2 ] ' saathi grah jab jad koi kate , drishti magar wo chhuptaa

> ho ' --- when the enemy planets occupy a rashi and is not aspected

by

> the rashi lord , the kundali will be of pitr-rin. For example if

the

> enemy planets of saturn like sun , moon or mars occupy either

makar

> or kumbha and if not aspected by saturn .

>

> [ 3 ] 'paanch barah nau do koi mande , rin pitra ban jaata ho' ---

if

> there is an enemy planet of Jupiter like venus or mercury in the

> 5th , 12th , 9th and 2nd then also it will be a pitr-rin kundali .

>

>

> The Lal kitab suggests remedies in detail for pitr-rin arising out

of

> such situations . It provides the detailed cause of these debts ,

the

> grah involved and its remedies. I have not seen such a detail in

any

> other book on astrology.

>

> With regards

> upadhyay