Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Om Namah Shivaya, Dear Raji ji, Pranaam. I assume, you wanted to know as how Saptamsa is used, not as how it's calculated. If the latter is true, then just use, Narasimha ji's free Jagannatha Hora software or the full featured commercial one. It will accurately calculate it for you. Pandit Sanjay ji's Crux of Vedic Astrology book, chap 8, clearly explains the way as how to interprete the Saptamsa chart. I'll try to type in some of the basics, from that treasure: The timing of birth of individual children, their nature, abilities and fortunes are seen in the saptamsa chart. The first child is seen from the fifth house counted zodiacally or reverse depending on whether the lagna is odd or even. (As you may already aware of, Aries, Gemini, Leo, Libra, Sagittarius and Aquarius are odd signs and the rest six are even signs). The subsequent pregnancies are seen from every third house (Manduka gati). Thus, if an odd sign ascends in the saptamsa, the individual pregnancies are seen in the 5th(1st pregnancy), 7th(2nd pregnancy), 9th (3rd pregnancy), 11th (4th pregnancy) etc. If an even sign ascends in the saptamsa, the individual pregnancies are seen in the 9th house (1st pregnancy), 7th (2nd pregnancy), 5th (3rd pregnancy), 3rd (4th pregnancy) and so on. The sex of the child is seen from the lord of the sign ruling the house of pregnancy. If the lord is exalted or conjoins male planets (Sun, Rahu, Jupiter, Mars) the issue is male. If the lord is debilated or conjoins female planets (Moon, ketu, Venus) the issue is female. Saturn and Mercury are eunuch planets, but Sanjayji found them to indicate female and male chil respectively. If the lord of the house ruling pregnancy is neither exalted nor debilated nor conjoins other planets, then the sex of the child is seen from the nature of the sign occupied by it. All odd signs excepting Aquarius and Gemini are male signs while all even signs execpt Cancer and Pisces are female birth signs. Hope this helps you, to delve further. Best wishes, Palanivelu vedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar <rajeswarishankar> wrote: > Hi List, > > Can anybody please explain me how to calculate for saptamsa ?? > > > Thanks > Raji > > > Vikram Singhvi <vikram_singhvi> wrote: > Namaste Visti, > Thanks for the reply. 2nd pregnancy lord Moon is debilited and we have to look for the protective powers of Ju. The second thought came to my mind after reading your mail was that she should be adviced to chant the Maha Mrityunjaya mantra also. For moon related issues Shiva should be propitiated and Ju is also involved so Mrityunjaya mantra can be useful. > > You wrote: > > Only question is how retrograde Jupiter is. Good luck to the lady. > > Any Doubt on the remedies???? Will it work or not and the pregnancy will go thru or not?As far as I know if Ju is retro, then the Ju blessings won't come when the it is retro in transit.Right now it is direct and becomes retro on 04-JAN-2004 when she completes 8months. > > The reason for the problems is seen from Saturn in Badhak sign - Leo, showing sorrow caused to paternal side in the past birth. Saturn lords the 5th house, and hence the childbirths suffer. She MUST additionally arrange for Pitri Shraddha on Amavasya. > > The Priti shaapa is on her Father side(paternal) or in-laws side???The doubt here is she has to arrange the shraadha for the Grandparents and anscetors or it has to be from her husband side??? > > The last one......To calculate the pregnancy for females we count anticlock wise. Here Saptamasa lord is Cap( an even sign) so counting should be reversed. It should be clockwise for females. SO Taurus and Venus will be the lord for the first child....Pardon me if I am wrong or missing some basic rules. > Thanks & Regards > > Vikram > > > > > Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote: > > |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah| > Dear Vikram, > Your last inference is correct - The moon being debilitated in Saptamsa and aspected by Mars is a very bad combination for motherhood. Always look at the Moon. The 9th lord showing the first birth is also joined this moon indicating the loss of pregnancy. Moon lords the 7th house itself and again there is danger. However Jupiter is sitting in the 7th house and also has aspect on the Moon, and we need to call for Jupiters protective blessings now - and the specific form is Mahavishnu. Your were correct to advise the Santana Gopala mantra. > Only question is how retrograde Jupiter is. Good luck to the lady. > > The reason for the problems is seen from Saturn in Badhak sign - Leo, showing sorrow caused to paternal side in the past birth. Saturn lords the 5th house, and hence the childbirths suffer. She MUST additionally arrange for Pitri Shraddha on Amavasya. > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > - > Vikram Singhvi > > Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:01 PM > [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Troubled Pregnancy > > > Respected Visti & Gurus, > Pranam. > > Here is the chart of a lady who is suffering on account of the troubled pregnancy.She had a miscarriage in Mar 2002 due to bleeding after 3-4 weeks of conception. She is pregnant again for 9 weeks, again lots of troubles and had profuse bleeding. She is under continuous Doctors supervision and has been prescribed complete bed rest. > Any remedy/mantras for the pregnancy to go thru succefully will be highly appreciated. > I have adviced her to chant Santana Gopala mantra. > > Looking at her chart, we observe that she has 4 planets retro. > 4 Planets aspecting thr 5th house. > Saturn the Yogakaraka for libra asc is in 11th house aspecting 5th, Guru in 9th aspecting 5th house and Mars in 10th house aspecting 5th. Moon also aspecting 5th. > With this situation how should we interprete the things when both karaka and Akarak planets of the chart aspecting a house simultaneously ????? > > Looking at her saptamasa the 2nd pregnancy seen from 7th house.Exalted Jup sitting in 7th but Moon the lord of 7th is debilited conjucting with Mer in 11th house. > > I would request Gurus to comment on this chart and help this lady for the pregnancy to go thru successfully. > > Thanks & regards > > Vikram > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > Send a blank mail > To : - > To : > > > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah] > Send a blank mail > To : - > To : > > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > Sponsor > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 20, 2003 Report Share Posted July 20, 2003 Very informative one about saptamsa.Thanks a lot for explaining me in detail. Thanks Raji palsdevi <palsdevi > wrote: Om Namah Shivaya,Dear Raji ji,Pranaam. I assume, you wanted to know as how Saptamsa is used, not ashow it's calculated. If the latter is true, then just use, Narasimhaji's free Jagannatha Hora software or the full featured commercial one.It will accurately calculate it for you. Pandit Sanjay ji's Crux of Vedic Astrology book, chap 8, clearlyexplains the way as how to interprete the Saptamsa chart. I'll try totype in some of the basics, from that treasure:The timing of birth of individual children, their nature, abilities andfortunes are seen in the saptamsa chart. The first child is seen fromthe fifth house counted zodiacally or reverse depending on whether thelagna is odd or even. (As you may already aware of, Aries, Gemini, Leo,Libra, Sagittarius and Aquarius are odd signs and the rest six are evensigns). The subsequent pregnancies are seen from every third house(Manduka gati). Thus, if an odd sign ascends in the saptamsa, theindividual pregnancies are seen in the 5th(1st pregnancy), 7th(2ndpregnancy), 9th (3rd pregnancy), 11th (4th pregnancy) etc. If an evensign ascends in the saptamsa, the individual pregnancies are seen inthe 9th house (1st pregnancy), 7th (2nd pregnancy), 5th (3rdpregnancy), 3rd (4th pregnancy) and so on.The sex of the child is seen from the lord of the sign ruling the houseof pregnancy. If the lord is exalted or conjoins male planets (Sun,Rahu, Jupiter, Mars) the issue is male. If the lord is debilated orconjoins female planets (Moon, ketu, Venus) the issue is female. Saturnand Mercury are eunuch planets, but Sanjayji found them to indicatefemale and male chil respectively. If the lord of the house rulingpregnancy is neither exalted nor debilated nor conjoins other planets,then the sex of the child is seen from the nature of the sign occupiedby it. All odd signs excepting Aquarius and Gemini are male signs whileall even signs execpt Cancer and Pisces are female birth signs.Hope this helps you, to delve further. Best wishes,Palaniveluvedic astrology, Rajeswari Shankar<rajeswarishankar> wrote:> Hi List,> > Can anybody please explain me how to calculate for saptamsa ??> > > Thanks> Raji> > > Vikram Singhvi <vikram_singhvi> wrote:> Namaste Visti,> Thanks for the reply. 2nd pregnancy lord Moonis debilited and we have to look for the protective powers of Ju. Thesecond thought came to my mind after reading your mail was that sheshould be adviced to chant the Maha Mrityunjaya mantra also. For moonrelated issues Shiva should be propitiated and Ju is also involved soMrityunjaya mantra can be useful.> > You wrote:> > Only question is how retrograde Jupiter is. Good luck to the lady.> > Any Doubt on the remedies???? Will it work or not and the pregnancywill go thru or not?As far as I know if Ju is retro, then the Jublessings won't come when the it is retro in transit.Right now it isdirect and becomes retro on 04-JAN-2004 when she completes 8months.> > The reason for the problems is seen from Saturn in Badhak sign -Leo, showing sorrow caused to paternal side in the past birth. Saturnlords the 5th house, and hence the childbirths suffer. She MUSTadditionally arrange for Pitri Shraddha on Amavasya.> > The Priti shaapa is on her Father side(paternal) or in-lawsside???The doubt here is she has to arrange the shraadha for theGrandparents and anscetors or it has to be from her husband side???> > The last one......To calculate the pregnancy for females we countanticlock wise. Here Saptamasa lord is Cap( an even sign) so countingshould be reversed. It should be clockwise for females. SO Taurus andVenus will be the lord for the first child....Pardon me if I am wrongor missing some basic rules.> Thanks & Regards> > Vikram> > > > > Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote:> > |Vyam Vyasadevaaya Namah|> Dear Vikram,> Your last inference is correct - The moon being debilitated inSaptamsa and aspected by Mars is a very bad combination formotherhood. Always look at the Moon. The 9th lord showing the firstbirth is also joined this moon indicating the loss of pregnancy. Moonlords the 7th house itself and again there is danger. However Jupiteris sitting in the 7th house and also has aspect on the Moon, and weneed to call for Jupiters protective blessings now - and the specificform is Mahavishnu. Your were correct to advise the Santana Gopala mantra.> Only question is how retrograde Jupiter is. Good luck to the lady.> > The reason for the problems is seen from Saturn in Badhak sign -Leo, showing sorrow caused to paternal side in the past birth. Saturnlords the 5th house, and hence the childbirths suffer. She MUSTadditionally arrange for Pitri Shraddha on Amavasya.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> - > Vikram Singhvi > > Saturday, July 19, 2003 8:01 PM> [sJC: Achyuta Gurukul] Troubled Pregnancy> > > Respected Visti & Gurus,> Pranam.> > Here is the chart of a lady who is suffering on account of thetroubled pregnancy.She had a miscarriage in Mar 2002 due to bleedingafter 3-4 weeks of conception. She is pregnant again for 9 weeks,again lots of troubles and had profuse bleeding. She is undercontinuous Doctors supervision and has been prescribed complete bed rest.> Any remedy/mantras for the pregnancy to go thru succefully will behighly appreciated. > I have adviced her to chant Santana Gopala mantra.> > Looking at her chart, we observe that she has 4 planets retro. > 4 Planets aspecting thr 5th house. > Saturn the Yogakaraka for libra asc is in 11th house aspecting 5th,Guru in 9th aspecting 5th house and Mars in 10th house aspecting 5th.Moon also aspecting 5th. > With this situation how should we interprete the things when bothkaraka and Akarak planets of the chart aspecting a housesimultaneously ?????> > Looking at her saptamasa the 2nd pregnancy seen from 7thhouse.Exalted Jup sitting in 7th but Moon the lord of 7th isdebilited conjucting with Mer in 11th house.> > I would request Gurus to comment on this chart and help this ladyfor the pregnancy to go thru successfully.> > Thanks & regards> > Vikram > > > > > > > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> Send a blank mail> To : -> To : > > Your use of is subject to the > > > [Om Kleem Krishnaaya Jagannathaaya namah]> Send a blank mail> To : -> To : > > Your use of is subject to the > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > Sponsor> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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