Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 22nd SJC Mumbai meetings Respected learned list members, Our 22nd meeting was held on 29.06.03. The same was attended by, 1. Prasant Achar 2. J.K. Dasgupta 3. Praveen Agarwal 4. Anand Sonde 5. Aparna Joshi 6. Dr. Rajeev Karekar 7. Anand Ghuryie 8. Sunil John We had general discussion on the following horoscope and tried to look into various aspects of the native's life. The chart is attached herewith in jhl4.1 format. We would request learned members to kindly also comment on the same. The actual life description has been marked in black, the analysis in blue and doubts are in bold red. =============================================== Chart Details: Male native 2nd Dec 1973, 9. 40 pm, mumbai 1. The nature of his father and financial status of his father. Father was extremely rich businessman In rasi: 9L Jup is with Ven and Moon - 7L from Jup is in 2nd from Jup shows father's financial condition. In D12: Jup is exaulted. 9L Mer strong in own house having Ju - 7L from Mer in 11th exaulted. Also Moon - 11L from Mer is in 10th. These may show that his father was a businessman and very rich. The native lost his father on 24th May 1990. He owned many properties and many businesses, he settled many of his relatives and his employees by offering major stake in business, was cheated in 1985 very badly for crores of rupees, after which he suffered emotional setback. 14pt"> 9L is Jup and Jup MD was bad for the native in general. But can we pin point the cheatings and set back of his father from the native's chart? Is it because Jup is with rahu in 9th in D9? 2. Present financial condition of this native. Native inherited lot of wealth from his father. He is a multimillionaire, has several businesses of stationary, aluminum trading, garments shop and money lending. But extreme miser, major tax evader, in spite of owning 3-4 cars - he travels by train or bus only, all inherited wealth. Generally 2L in asc. will make a person miser. Here that is not case. How to see misery from the chart? Also he has debltd Rahu 8L in 6th with GL & SL. Should it grant him a vipareet yoga and if so, how? FONT-SIZE: 14pt; mso-bidi-font-family: Arial"> Deblt malefic in 4th from AL should be good materialistically. He lost some inherited wealth due to poor decision taken by his father earlier. PiK moon in 8th (marana karaka) and 8L Sat with Kein 12th is not a good combination. Here moon (also Pik) gives neechabhanga to Jup. This may explian his inheriting wealth during Jup MD after his father's death. But the period do not get justified. Also due to marana karaka sthana of Moon.. properties might have always kept him in problems Last week of June he received a letter from leading bank stating that his father had borrowed money 17 yrs back and he has to repay immediately or one of his properties would be attached, the repayment is to the tune of Rs 7.5 crores. Native was not even aware of this loan and for what it was taken, later found out that his father and some partners owned a company somewhere in Barooch for which loan was taken. Native is running Sat-Mer dasa. Sat is his 8L (legal problem, debt) and Mer is his AK in 4th - also 2nd from AL. So problems in properties etc. are to occur. But karaka for 4H Mars is very strong (virgittamo in own house). So he may not get affected much by such losses. He was also deceived by his cousin brother in business. Again 3L Mer is AK having papargala of Rahu. 3. Marriage and date Married on 28th Dec 1999. He was interested in another woman before marriage, but had to marry someone else due to pressure fro parents. He didn’t have any physical relation with his wife till one year after marriage. Do the combination of AL/UL in 6:8 position and 2L from UL debltd justify this sufficiently? What is the justification of not having any relation with his wife for ne year. 7. No of siblings. One younger brother and one youngest sister, natives elder brother died after 6 months of birth. Let us check from AL in D1. AL in even rashi - counting will be anti zodiac. 3rd from AL (Sc) shows elder sibling. Lord Mars in Ar. So a male sibling. But it has aspect of Rahu. So he died. 11th from AL (Cn) lord Moon in female rashi, so next should be a male .. but this is not matching. 3rd from Cn is Ta. Lord Ve with debltd Ju.. so a female sibling. Now if we look at D3, Asc in Cn .. an even rashi.. again counting is backward. 3rd lord Me is with Sat, Mo & Ke .. all female planets. So elder one should have been a female as per D3. 11th lord Ve also in female rashi.. so next one also should have been a female. So no of siblings do not match. 8. Loss of major property. 1992 during April end/May 1st week. Why in Jup-Ven-Ven period? Is it because Ven is badhakesh? 9. Foreign residency/travel. Native is in India, has not been able to travel abroad, his US visa rejected some yrs back, his hongkong trip also rejected, natives deepest desire is to live abroad forever. Sat, 7L in 12th should have given him travels. But may be it did not materialize due to retrogation of Sat. 10. Curses of this chart. General opinion was that there was no curse involved. However the native might not have done last rites of his father properly this is due to the combination of Saturn and node in visible sign. 11. Doubt about Lagna: Native is an extremely shrewd person along with being cunning. Natives physical appearance is height: 5 feet, 5inches, extremely thin, bent shoulders, non attractive, big eyes popping out, lacks stamina, tends to avoid lunch and breakfast always, smokes moderately and drinks occasionally. It seems that the description of the person do not match with that of Cn asc. With asc lord Moon in 8th (maranakaraka) in Rahu nakhsatra and asc in Sat nakhsatra .. can the native get such apearance? Other details about the native for the consideration of list members: He entered business in 1995, in tendencies of his family members cheating is predominant, but still the native continues to do business with them. During 1995 to 1997 he spent repaying debts of the tune of Rs 70 lakhs. 12. Questions raised by the native:- 1. All his problems in life has been inherited due to his father and still continues with the present loan case and property cases. When will this stop? 2. Driving force is out of his life, any remedy to bring that back. 3. when will he start controlling his business, it seems to be all going out of hand and when will stability come in his life. It was seen that Sat and Mer MDs will generally be bad for the native and full of trouble. 4. Remedies to be performed to make life smoother. Not discussed as we were not very sure about the asc. Valuable comments on the same - from gurus and other learned members would be highly appreciated. Regards, On behalf of JKda Sunil John SJC-Mumbai member Best regards, Sunil John SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Attachment: (application/octet-stream) SJC mumbai 22nd meeting chart.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 10, 2003 Report Share Posted July 10, 2003 Om Namah Shivaya Dear Sunil My comments below vedic astrology, sunil john <jjnet2000_in> wrote: > > > Chart Details: > > Male native > > 2nd Dec 1973, > > 9. 40 pm, > > mumbai > > 1. The nature of his father and financial status of his father. > > > 9L is Jup and Jup MD was bad for the native in general. But can we pin point the cheatings and set back of his father from the native's chart? Is it because Jup is with rahu in 9th in D9? PARTHA:- 9th lord is debilitated and is with venus the badhaka for Cancer ascendant. 9th lord is in nakshatra of Moon which is in 8th house. Dispositor of 9th lord is saturn in 12th house with ketu. These factors are responsible for the dasa results of jupiter. > > 2. Present financial condition of this native. > > Native inherited lot of wealth from his father. He is a multimillionaire, has several businesses of stationary, aluminum trading, garments shop and money lending. But extreme miser, major tax evader, in spite of owning 3-4 cars - he travels by train or bus only, all inherited wealth. > Generally 2L in asc. will make a person miser. Here that is not case. How to see misery from the chart? PARTHA:- 12th house shows expenditure and spending. Malefics here make a person miser. He does not even enjoy his sleep. > > PiK moon in 8th (marana karaka) and 8L Sat with Kein 12th is not a good combination. Here moon (also Pik) gives neechabhanga to Jup. This may explian his inheriting wealth during Jup MD after his father's death. But the period do not get justified. PARTHA:- how come moon is giving neechabhanga for jupiter. Moon is not in a kendra. Chara Pitri Karaka in 8th house and 8th lord saturn in 12th and co-lord rahu in 6th is kind of a yoga for inheritance. In d-12 and d-10, sun is in 8th house. > Also due to marana karaka sthana of Moon.. properties might have always kept him in problems > > Last week of June he received a letter from leading bank stating that his father had borrowed money 17 yrs back and he has to repay immediately or one of his properties would be attached, the repayment is to the tune of Rs 7.5 crores. Native was not even aware of this loan and for what it was taken, later found out that his father and some partners owned a company somewhere in Barooch for which loan was taken. > > Native is running Sat-Mer dasa. Sat is his 8L (legal problem, debt) and Mer is his AK in 4th - also 2nd from AL. So problems in properties etc. are to occur. But karaka for 4H Mars is very strong (virgittamo in own house). So he may not get affected much by such losses. > > He was also deceived by his cousin brother in business. PARTHA:- The Gnati Karaka(rival, cousins) is venus is the badhakesh, is the fourth lord and vargottama. He is the trouble creator. Venus is The TROUBLE creator. > > Again 3L Mer is AK having papargala of Rahu. > > 3. Marriage and date > > Married on 28th Dec 1999. He was interested in another woman before marriage, but had to marry someone else due to pressure fro parents. He didn’t have any physical relation with his wife till one year after marriage. > > Do the combination of AL/UL in 6:8 position and 2L from UL debltd justify this sufficiently? What is the justification of not having any relation with his wife for ne year. PARTHA:- 7th lord is in 12th house. Sexual relations are a problem. Lord of A7 is ketu and he cooperates with Saturn. 7th and 12th are to be seen for sexual relations. > > > 8. Loss of major property. > > 1992 during April end/May 1st week. > > Why in Jup-Ven-Ven period? Is it because Ven is badhakesh? PARTHA: Explained earlier > > 9. Foreign residency/travel. > > Native is in India, has not been able to travel abroad, his US visa rejected some yrs back, his hongkong trip also rejected, natives deepest desire is to live abroad forever. > > Sat, 7L in 12th should have given him travels. But may be it did not materialize due to retrogation of Sat. PARTHA:-The dasa of saturn can give him travel abroad, look out for saturn-ketu. > > 10. Curses of this chart. > > General opinion was that there was no curse involved. However the native might not have done last rites of his father properly this is due to the combination of Saturn and node in visible sign. PARTHA:- Sun is aspected by mars also. Saturn with ketu in 12th is the root problem. Look in VRA for remedy for such a ill combination. > > 11. Doubt about Lagna: > > Native is an extremely shrewd person along with being cunning. Natives physical appearance is height: 5 feet, 5inches, extremely thin, bent shoulders, non attractive, big eyes popping out, lacks stamina, tends to avoid lunch and breakfast always, smokes moderately and drinks occasionally. > > It seems that the description of the person do not match with that of Cn asc. With asc lord Moon in 8th (maranakaraka) in Rahu nakhsatra and asc in Sat nakhsatra .. can the native get such apearance? PARTHA:- Navamsa lagna shows appearance. Saturn, sun and mercury aspect the navamsa lagna. > > 12. Questions raised by the native:- > > 1. All his problems in life has been inherited due to his father and still continues with the present loan case and property cases. When will this stop? PARTHA: - Ask him to perform remedy for saturn ketu combination., it is given in VRA. > 2. Driving force is out of his life, any remedy to bring that back. PARTHA:- Ask him to wear red coral of atleast 3 carats in ring finger. And start worshipping Sada Shiva. Badhaka with Jupiter suggests that he should be charitable(9th lord) and share his gains (11th lord badhak) for rejuvenation. > > 3. when will he start controlling his business, it seems to be all going out of hand and when will stability come in his life. > PARTHA:- IT will come, ask him to perform the remedies mentioned above. > > It was seen that Sat and Mer MDs will generally be bad for the native and full of trouble. PARTHA:- Saturn is 9th cum 10th lord in Dasamsa, Mercury is 2nd cum 5th lord. So need not worry that much regards partha om tat sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Dear Partha, my comments are in red jk - V.Partha sarathy vedic astrology Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:43 PM [vedic astrology] Re: 22nd SJC Mumbai meetings Om Namah ShivayaDear SunilMy comments below > > Chart Details:> > Male native > > 2nd Dec 1973, > > 9. 40 pm, > > mumbai> > 1. The nature of his father and financial status of his father.> > > 9L is Jup and Jup MD was bad for the native in general. But can we pin point the cheatings and set back of his father from the native's chart? Is it because Jup is with rahu in 9th in D9?PARTHA:- 9th lord is debilitated and is with venus the badhaka for Cancer ascendant. 9th lord is in nakshatra of Moon which is in 8th house.Dispositor of 9th lord is saturn in 12th house with ketu. These factors are responsible for the dasa results of jupiter. jk: but why cheating? i think rahu's connection only will show cheating .. which is not there > > 2. Present financial condition of this native.> > Native inherited lot of wealth from his father. He is a multimillionaire, has several businesses of stationary, aluminum trading, garments shop and money lending. But extreme miser, major tax evader, in spite of owning 3-4 cars - he travels by train or bus only, all inherited wealth. > Generally 2L in asc. will make a person miser. Here that is not case. How to see misery from the chart? PARTHA:- 12th house shows expenditure and spending. Malefics here make a person miser. He does not even enjoy his sleep. jk: as i know, malefics.. specially saturn in 12th will show loss, sat being 8L also ..loss by legal proceedings.> > PiK moon in 8th (marana karaka) and 8L Sat with Kein 12th is not a good combination. Here moon (also Pik) gives neechabhanga to Jup. This may explian his inheriting wealth during Jup MD after his father's death. But the period do not get justified. PARTHA:- how come moon is giving neechabhanga for jupiter. Moon is not in a kendra. Chara Pitri Karaka in 8th house and 8th lord saturn in 12th and co-lord rahu in 6th is kind of a yoga for inheritance. In d-12 and d-10, sun is in 8th house.jk: why not? the planet giving neechabhanga should be in kendra from moon or asc. here it is moon - in kendra from itself. that is the logic. correct me if i am wrong.> Also due to marana karaka sthana of Moon.. properties might have always kept him in problems> > Last week of June he received a letter from leading bank stating that his father had borrowed money 17 yrs back and he has to repay immediately or one of his properties would be attached, the repayment is to the tune of Rs 7.5 crores. Native was not even aware of this loan and for what it was taken, later found out that his father and some partners owned a company somewhere in Barooch for which loan was taken. > > Native is running Sat-Mer dasa. Sat is his 8L (legal problem, debt) and Mer is his AK in 4th - also 2nd from AL. So problems in properties etc. are to occur. But karaka for 4H Mars is very strong (virgittamo in own house). So he may not get affected much by such losses.> > He was also deceived by his cousin brother in business. PARTHA:- The Gnati Karaka(rival, cousins) is venus is the badhakesh, is the fourth lord and vargottama. He is the trouble creator. Venus is The TROUBLE creator. jk: i agree> > Again 3L Mer is AK having papargala of Rahu.> > 3. Marriage and date> > Married on 28th Dec 1999. He was interested in another woman before marriage, but had to marry someone else due to pressure fro parents. He didn’t have any physical relation with his wife till one year after marriage.> > Do the combination of AL/UL in 6:8 position and 2L from UL debltd justify this sufficiently? What is the justification of not having any relation with his wife for ne year.PARTHA:- 7th lord is in 12th house. Sexual relations are a problem. Lord of A7 is ketu and he cooperates with Saturn. 7th and 12th are to be seen for sexual relations.jk: if i am not wrong, 3rd hse shows the act and 7H shows the persons with whom the native involves in sex. on another look at the chart my openion is ..3L being Mer (AK) the problem occured. here he is also 12L (bed pleasure). also Ven is in 7th.. who may increase indulgence in venucian activities but will creat problem for the marriage. but as Ven is also badhakesh.> > 8. Loss of major property.> > 1992 during April end/May 1st week.> > Why in Jup-Ven-Ven period? Is it because Ven is badhakesh?PARTHA: Explained earlier> > 9. Foreign residency/travel. > > Native is in India, has not been able to travel abroad, his US visa rejected some yrs back, his hongkong trip also rejected, natives deepest desire is to live abroad forever.> > Sat, 7L in 12th should have given him travels. But may be it did not materialize due to retrogation of Sat.PARTHA:-The dasa of saturn can give him travel abroad, look out for saturn-ketu.jk: in my openion, only Jup can give him foreign travel being 9L in 7th. Sat, being retro.. shall try to stop travel ... which has actually happened. > > 10. Curses of this chart.> > General opinion was that there was no curse involved. However the native might not have done last rites of his father properly this is due to the combination of Saturn and node in visible sign.PARTHA:- Sun is aspected by mars also. Saturn with ketu in 12th is the root problem. Look in VRA for remedy for such a ill combination.> > 11. Doubt about Lagna:> > Native is an extremely shrewd person along with being cunning. Natives physical appearance is height: 5 feet, 5inches, extremely thin, bent shoulders, non attractive, big eyes popping out, lacks stamina, tends to avoid lunch and breakfast always, smokes moderately and drinks occasionally.> > It seems that the description of the person do not match with that of Cn asc. With asc lord Moon in 8th (maranakaraka) in Rahu nakhsatra and asc in Sat nakhsatra ... can the native get such apearance?PARTHA:- Navamsa lagna shows appearance. Saturn, sun and mercury aspect the navamsa lagna.> > 12. Questions raised by the native:-> > 1. All his problems in life has been inherited due to his father and still continues with the present loan case and property cases. When will this stop?PARTHA: - Ask him to perform remedy for saturn ketu combination., it is given in VRA.> 2. Driving force is out of his life, any remedy to bring that back.PARTHA:- Ask him to wear red coral of atleast 3 carats in ring finger. And start worshipping Sada Shiva. Badhaka with Jupiter suggests that he should be charitable(9th lord) and share his gains(11th lord badhak) for rejuvenation. jk: i agree> > 3. when will he start controlling his business, it seems to be all going out of hand and when will stability come in his life.> PARTHA:- IT will come, ask him to perform the remedies mentioned above.> > It was seen that Sat and Mer MDs will generally be bad for the native and full of trouble. PARTHA:- Saturn is 9th cum 10th lord in Dasamsa, Mercury is 2nd cum 5th lord. So need not worry that muchregardsparthaom tat sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Om Namah Shivaya Dear JK da My comments below jk: but why cheating? i think rahu's connection only will show cheating .. which is not there Partha:- Saturn is in arudra nakshatra. Ruled by Rahu. Rahu also aspects the 12th from the AL. The 12th from Lagna shows what we give up voluntarily, whereas the 12th from AL shows the losses which are unwanted. Thus rahus aspect over 12th FROM Al caused the cheating and losses. jk: as i know, malefics.. specially saturn in 12th will show loss, sat being 8L also ..loss by legal proceedings. Partha:- The question was regarding miserliness. Loss is different from being stingy. I may be the most stingy person in this world, but i cannot prevent some one from cheating against me and causing losses. Thus malefics in 12th are not good because, here the person has to spend on legal proceedings(saturn), sun(taxes) etc. Malefics in 12th make a person stingy, this is a dictum from classics. jk: why not? the planet giving neechabhanga should be in kendra from moon or asc. here it is moon - in kendra from itself. that is the logic. correct me if i am wrong. Partha:- Yes you are correct, but the neechabhanga has to be there from lagna to realise the results. And when moon itself is the planet then we have to judge from lagna. In the tripod principle of looking at dasas, judge mahadasas from SUn, antardasas from moon and paryantar from lagna. Does this mean when we have to look for moon antardasa, we have to see from MOOn itself. SOme thinking is required here. should it be sun, or the lagna. The clue here gives the answer for neechabhanga answer also, jk: if i am not wrong, 3rd hse shows the act and 7H shows the persons with whom the native involves in sex. on another look at the chart my openion is ..3L being Mer (AK) the problem occured. here he is also 12L (bed pleasure). also Ven is in 7th.. who may increase indulgence in venucian activities but will creat problem for the marriage. but as Ven is also badhakesh. Partha:- You are correct, but according to the information provided, it is mentioned that the person voluntarily did not sleep for one year. Now this can be better explained by the presence of malefics in 12th house. IF we analyse from AK, then he should never sleep :-)) Another important point to be noted , sun and saturn are in fourth house from the 7th house in Navamsa chart. 4th house shows mating in navamsa. It also shows conscious hridaya or heart. And it was already mentioned by the Mumbai group, that he has been cunning etc. regards partha om tat sat vedic astrology, "j.k. dasgupta" <dgassociates@s...> wrote: > Dear Partha, > > my comments are in red > > jk > - > V.Partha sarathy > vedic astrology > Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:43 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: 22nd SJC Mumbai meetings > > > Om Namah Shivaya > > Dear Sunil > > My comments below > > > > > Chart Details: > > > > Male native > > > > 2nd Dec 1973, > > > > 9. 40 pm, > > > > mumbai > > > > 1. The nature of his father and financial status of his father. > > > > > > 9L is Jup and Jup MD was bad for the native in general. But can we > pin point the cheatings and set back of his father from the native's > chart? Is it because Jup is with rahu in 9th in D9? > > PARTHA:- 9th lord is debilitated and is with venus the badhaka for > Cancer ascendant. 9th lord is in nakshatra of Moon which is in 8th > house. > > Dispositor of 9th lord is saturn in 12th house with ketu. These > factors are responsible for the dasa results of jupiter. > > > > > > 2. Present financial condition of this native. > > > > Native inherited lot of wealth from his father. He is a > multimillionaire, has several businesses of stationary, aluminum > trading, garments shop and money lending. > But extreme miser, major tax evader, in spite of owning 3-4 cars - > he travels by train or bus only, all inherited wealth. > > Generally 2L in asc. will make a person miser. Here that is not > case. How to see misery from the chart? > > PARTHA:- 12th house shows expenditure and spending. Malefics here > make a person miser. He does not even enjoy his sleep. > > > > > > > PiK moon in 8th (marana karaka) and 8L Sat with Kein 12th is not a > good combination. Here moon (also Pik) gives neechabhanga to Jup. > This may explian his inheriting wealth during Jup MD after his > father's death. But the period do not get justified. > > > PARTHA:- how come moon is giving neechabhanga for jupiter. Moon is > not in a kendra. Chara Pitri Karaka in 8th house and 8th lord saturn > in 12th and co-lord rahu in 6th is kind of a yoga for inheritance. In > d-12 and d-10, sun is in 8th house. > > > > > Also due to marana karaka sthana of Moon.. properties might have > always kept him in problems > > > > Last week of June he received a letter from leading bank stating > that his father had borrowed money 17 yrs back and he has to repay > immediately or one of his properties would be attached, the repayment > is to the tune of Rs 7.5 crores. Native was not even aware of this > loan and for what it was taken, later found out that his father and > some partners owned a company somewhere in Barooch for which loan was > taken. > > > > Native is running Sat-Mer dasa. Sat is his 8L (legal problem, debt) > and Mer is his AK in 4th - also 2nd from AL. So problems in > properties etc. are to occur. But karaka for 4H Mars is very strong > (virgittamo in own house). So he may not get affected much by such > losses. > > > > He was also deceived by his cousin brother in business. > > PARTHA:- The Gnati Karaka(rival, cousins) is venus is the badhakesh, > is the fourth lord and vargottama. He is the trouble creator. Venus > is The TROUBLE creator. > > jk: i agree > > > > > Again 3L Mer is AK having papargala of Rahu. > > > > 3. Marriage and date > > > > Married on 28th Dec 1999. He was interested in another woman before > marriage, but had to marry someone else due to pressure fro parents. > He didn’t have any physical relation with his wife till one year > after marriage. > > > > Do the combination of AL/UL in 6:8 position and 2L from UL debltd > justify this sufficiently? What is the justification of not having > any relation with his wife for ne year. > > PARTHA:- 7th lord is in 12th house. Sexual relations are a problem. > Lord of A7 is ketu and he cooperates with Saturn. 7th and 12th are to > be seen for sexual relations. > > > > > > > 8. Loss of major property. > > > > 1992 during April end/May 1st week. > > > > Why in Jup-Ven-Ven period? Is it because Ven is badhakesh? > > PARTHA: Explained earlier > > > > 9. Foreign residency/travel. > > > > Native is in India, has not been able to travel abroad, his US visa > rejected some yrs back, his hongkong trip also rejected, natives > deepest desire is to live abroad forever. > > > > Sat, 7L in 12th should have given him travels. But may be it did > not materialize due to retrogation of Sat. > > > PARTHA:-The dasa of saturn can give him travel abroad, look out for > saturn-ketu. > > jk: in my openion, only Jup can give him foreign travel being 9L in 7th. Sat, being retro.. shall try to stop travel .. which has actually happened. > > > > > 10. Curses of this chart. > > > > General opinion was that there was no curse involved. However the > native might not have done last rites of his father properly this is > due to the combination of Saturn and node in visible sign. > > PARTHA:- Sun is aspected by mars also. Saturn with ketu in 12th is > the root problem. Look in VRA for remedy for such a ill combination. > > > > > > > 11. Doubt about Lagna: > > > > Native is an extremely shrewd person along with being cunning. > Natives physical appearance is height: 5 feet, 5inches, extremely > thin, bent shoulders, non attractive, big eyes popping out, lacks > stamina, tends to avoid lunch and breakfast always, smokes moderately > and drinks occasionally. > > > > It seems that the description of the person do not match with that > of Cn asc. With asc lord Moon in 8th (maranakaraka) in Rahu nakhsatra > and asc in Sat nakhsatra .. can the native get such apearance? > > PARTHA:- Navamsa lagna shows appearance. Saturn, sun and mercury > aspect the navamsa lagna. > > > > > > 12. Questions raised by the native:- > > > > 1. All his problems in life has been inherited due to his father > and still continues with the present loan case and property cases. > When will this stop? > > > PARTHA: - Ask him to perform remedy for saturn ketu combination., it > is given in VRA. > > > > 2. Driving force is out of his life, any remedy to bring that back. > > PARTHA:- Ask him to wear red coral of atleast 3 carats in ring > finger. And start worshipping Sada Shiva. Badhaka with Jupiter > suggests that he should be charitable(9th lord) and share his gains > (11th lord badhak) for rejuvenation. > > jk: i agree > > > > > 3. when will he start controlling his business, it seems to be all > going out of hand and when will stability come in his life. > > > PARTHA:- IT will come, ask him to perform the remedies mentioned > above. > > > > It was seen that Sat and Mer MDs will generally be bad for the > native and full of trouble. > > PARTHA:- Saturn is 9th cum 10th lord in Dasamsa, Mercury is 2nd cum > 5th lord. So need not worry that much > > regards > partha > om tat sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted July 11, 2003 Report Share Posted July 11, 2003 Dear Partha, my comments below jk - V.Partha sarathy vedic astrology Friday, July 11, 2003 4:37 PM [vedic astrology] Re: 22nd SJC Mumbai meetings Om Namah ShivayaDear JK daMy comments belowjk: but why cheating? i think rahu's connection only will show cheating .. which is not therePartha:- Saturn is in arudra nakshatra. Ruled by Rahu. Rahu also aspects the 12th from the AL. The 12th from Lagna shows what we give up voluntarily, whereas the 12th from AL shows the losses which are unwanted. Thus rahus aspect over 12th FROM Al caused the cheating and losses. jk: yes.. you are right, we missed it jk: why not? the planet giving neechabhanga should be in kendra from moon or asc. here it is moon - in kendra from itself. that is the logic. correct me if i am wrong.Partha:- Yes you are correct, but the neechabhanga has to be there from lagna to realise the results. And when moon itself is the planet then we have to judge from lagna.In the tripod principle of looking at dasas, judge mahadasas from SUn, antardasas from moon and paryantar from lagna. Does this mean when we have to look for moon antardasa, we have to see from MOOn itself. SOme thinking is required here. should it be sun, or the lagna. The clue here gives the answer for neechabhanga answer also, jk: well, you might be correct but this is a new thing to me for judging neechabhanga by moon or result for moon anardasa. can you give some reference on this for my further study on this? i shall request other learned members to comment here. jk: if i am not wrong, 3rd hse shows the act and 7H shows the persons with whom the native involves in sex. on another look at the chart my openion is ..3L being Mer (AK) the problem occured. here he is also 12L (bed pleasure). also Ven is in 7th.. who may increase indulgence in venucian activities but will creat problem for the marriage. but as Ven is also badhakesh.Partha:- You are correct, but according to the information provided, it is mentioned that the person voluntarily did not sleep for one year. Now this can be better explained by the presence of malefics in 12th house. IF we analyse from AK, then he should never sleep :-)) jk: may be he understood the reality after a teaching from AK or venucian urges in 7th compelled him to do so ultimatelyAnother important point to be noted , sun and saturn are in fourth house from the 7th house in Navamsa chart. 4th house shows mating in navamsa. It also shows conscious hridaya or heart. And it was already mentioned by the Mumbai group, that he has been cunning etc.regardsparthaom tat sat Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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