Debiliated Jupiter in LAGNA - Why is Neecha Bhanga RY Absent.

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Hello Chandrashekhar Ji

 

I agree with u there are different views for neechbhang rajyoga. For

Virgo ascendant Venus is in lagna which is neech/Delibilated. But

Some people say Jup is in Saggi 4th from Delib venus in lagna, Since

Jup, Lord of exaltation sign of Venus is in kendra from Venus and

Lagna , it sure causes neechbhanga. Can u please comment about this

situation?

 

 

Lagna Virgo

Venus is in Lagna in Virgo

Jup is in 4th house saggi.

 

Regards

AL

 

 

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar Sharma

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Pradeep,

> There are many variations of Neechabhanga Rajayoga given in various

> texts, oncluding the ones given by you. The strongest one is

formed

> when Lord of the houselord of the house in which the Neecha planet

> attains exaltation( taducchanath) , is placed in Kendra from the

> Ascendant or Moon. Even here the one formed by the said planet

being

> square to Ascendant is more powerful than that by squaring the Moon

is

> what I think. Of course the other combinations do reduce the effect

of

> planet being Neecha to some extent.

> Cancellation of a planet being Necha, which is different from above

is

> also caused when the same planet is in exaltation in navamsha.

> In the chart where Moon is in scorpio, it is Venus( lord of Tarus

the

> exaltation sign of Moon) should be squaring Ascendant for a

Rajayoga of

> NBR variety to occur. Others may hold different views.

> Hope this helps,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar wrote:

>

> > Dear Chandrashekar ji

> >

> > Among the definitions of Neecha Bhanga I have seen (only

translated

> > ones).

> >

> > The following two are in sync with the below chart.

> >

> > If the ruler of the sign occupied by the debilitated planet is in

a

> > kendra position from the Moon or the Logna. (In the chart ruler

is

> > Mars and it is in kendra from moon as moon conjuncts mars)

> >

> > If the ruler of the sign occupied by the debilitated planet

aspects

> > the planet. (here mars ia aspecting moon ,because of conjunction)

> >

> > Have i understood these definitions properly.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> > Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel]

> > Montag, 7. Juli 2003 22:17

> > vedic astrology

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in

LAGNA -

> > Chart and details

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> > Venus exated, specially as he is yoga karaka and Saturn in

> > exchange of house with Jupiter would make a difference. Both

3rd

> > lord and Ascendant lord get strength. Moon debilitated with

Mars

> > would not give rise to VRY.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar wrote:

> >

> >> Dear Chandrashekarji

> >>

> >> This individual did get help from siblings and they were

never

> >> against.But no scarifice kind of.Moreover the siblings did

not

> >> suffer from any serious troubles.All the siblings were able

to

> >> get decent education.But no sibling could get status and

fame as

> >> this individual.

> >> Moreover saturn in third house was along with exalted

venus.any

> >> help because of this?

> >>

> >> In labhasthana conjunction of Moon,Mars and Rahu is in

> >> scorpio.Debiliated Moon with 8th lord Mars produce Neecha

bhanga

> >> Raja yoga?

> >> KALASARPA YOGA ? - Rahu and Ketu are not alone.

> >>

> >> *******************************************************

> >> ** * * **

> >> * * * * *

*

> >> * * * * *

*

> >> * * * * * *

> >> * * * * * MON *

> >> * * 11* * 9 * MAR *

> >> * VEN 12 * Asc * 8 RAH *

> >> * SAT * * * * *

> >> * * * JUP * * *

> >> * * * * * *

> >> * * * * * *

> >> * * * 10 * * *

> >> ** * * **

> >> * SUN 1 * 7 *

> >> ** * 4 * **

> >> * * * * * *

> >> * * * * * *

> >> * * * * * *

> >> * * * * * *

> >> * * * * * *

> >> *MER 2 * * 6 *

> >> *KET * 3 * * 5 * *

> >> * * * * * *

> >> * * * * * *

> >> * * * * * *

> >> * * * * * *

> >> ** * * **

> >> *******************************************************

> >> if the learned members would like to know any further

details or

> >> life incidents,this can be provided.

> >> birth details (29th april,1937 00.50 AM,TRIVANDRUM,INDIA)

> >>

> >> Thanks

> >> Pradeep

> >>

> >>

> >> Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel]

> >> Sonntag, 6. Juli 2003 21:24

> >> vedic astrology

> >> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in

LAGNA.

> >>

> >> Dear Pradeep,

> >> If you could , ask him whether any of the brothers helped

> >> him/sacrificed for him aiding his success? Of course we

are

> >> talking about natal chart only and if the lord of 3rd is

weak

> >> in Navamsha, help from brothers could be lacking.

> >> Chandrashekhar.

> >>

> >> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >>

> >>> Dear Chandrashekar ji

> >>>

> >>> The person has 6 brothers and 2 sisters and he is the

eldest

> >>> person.But success and fame was because of own effort.so

> >>> thus can it

> >>> inferred that happiness due to more brothers and

sisters are

> >>> the

> >>> only benefit of this exchange.Or any other benefits due

to this

> >>> exchange.

> >>>

> >>> Thanks

> >>> Pradeep

> >>> vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar

Sharma

> >>> <boxdel> wrote:

> >>> > Dear Pradeep,

> >>> > In that case, the prson comes up in life by dint of

his own

> >>> efforts.

> >>> > Sometimes he gets help of his brothers in his

elevation.

> >>> > Chandrashekhar.

> >>> >

> >>> > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > > Dear Zoran ji and chandrashekar ji

> >>> > >

> >>> > > How could be the results if there is an exchange

between

> >>> lagna

> >>> lord

> >>> > > and debiliated 3rd lord.eg. for Capri lagna jupiter

the

> >>> lord of

> >>> third

> >>> > > is in lagna and shani lord of lagna is in third.What

> >>> general

> >>> results

> >>> > > can be expected because of third and lagna lords.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Thanks

> >>> > > Pradeep

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic [ahimsa@N...]

> >>> > > Freitag, 4. Juli 2003 05:13

> >>> > > vedic astrology

> >>> > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated

> >>> Jupiter in

> >>> LAGNA.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Dear Chandrakeshar,

> >>> > > Ernst has given a very valid thinking, 3rd, 6th

and 8th

> >>> lords in

> >>> > > debilitation while Lagnesh is well placed, gives

> >>> Raja Yoga

> >>> > > see Parashara. Further, Tasmin Ucha Neecha Ve

> >>> Shrimanath-

> >>> Jaimini,

> >>> > > so exalted and debilitated grahas are giver of

wealth,

> >>> > > If Guru is in Capricorn Lagna while, Shani is

in own

> >>> sign in

> >>> > > kumbha, a great wealth may come

> >>> > > Best wishes

> >>> > > Zoran

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Chandrashekhar Sharma wrote:

> >>> > >

> >>> > >> Dear Mofie,

> >>> > >> mahapurusha yoga is given rise to in any of the

> >>> Quadrants,

> >>> and

> >>> > >> not just 7th. The reason for Jupiter's good

result in

> >>> > >> debilitation is that Jupiter is said to harm

the

> >>> house that

> >>> he is

> >>> > >> placed in (Sthana Bhrashta), in exaltation his

strength

> >>> > >> increases. Again he aspects his exaltation sign

> >>> when placed

> >>> in

> >>> > >> debilitation, leading to beneficial effects.

As a

> >>> matter of

> >>> fact

> >>> > >> one learned Jyotishi, Shri Katwe, was of the

firm

> >>> opinion

> >>> that it

> >>> > >> is the debilitated planets that give rise to

> >>> benefic yogas.

> >>> Of

> >>> > >> course this is not a generally held opinion.

> >>> > >> Chandrashekhar.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Mofie Augustine wrote:

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >>> Dear Guru's

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> Yeah I too had read somewhere in list before

that

> >>> for a

> >>> capri

> >>> > >>> lagna natives, a debiliated Guru in lagna is

more

> >>> > >>> favourable for them than a exalted Guru in the

> >>> 7th. Why is

> >>> that

> >>> > >>> though Guru cause the famous Mahapurusha

> >>> > >>> Yoga in the 7th but it's still better to have

Guru

> >>> deb. in

> >>> > >>> lagna?? Can anyone enlighten please?

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> Thanks

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> Mofie

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> onlyhari wrote:

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>>> ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> >>> > >>>> Dear Pradeep,

> >>> > >>>>

> >>> > >>>> Yes, it can give luck to the individual and

such an

> >>> individual

> >>> > >>>> shall

> >>> > >>>> never be short of money or fulfillment of

needs.

> >>> > >>>>

> >>> > >>>> The question is why?

> >>> > >>>>

> >>> > >>>> regards

> >>> > >>>> Hari

> >>> > >>>>

> >>> > >>>> vedic-

astrology , "Vijayadas,

> >>> Pradeep

> >>> > >>>> Kumar"

> >>> > >>>> <PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote:

> >>> > >>>> > Respected members

> >>> > >>>> >

> >>> > >>>> > If a debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in

capricorn)

> >>> in lagna

> >>> is

> >>> > >>>> present,can

> >>> > >>>> > it still give some luck to the individual.I

> >>> have found

> >>> this

> >>> > >>>> from a

> >>> > >>>> > chart.Can this jupiter still bless the

houses

> >>> which it

> >>> aspects.

> >>> > >>>> >

> >>> > >>>> > Thanks

> >>> > >>>> > Pradeep

> >>> > >>>> >

> >>> > >>>> >

> >>> > >>>> >

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[Guest guest]

Dea Kanitkar,

Yes this is a neechabhanga of the classic type. In adition there is

Hansa Yoga.

Chandrashekhar.

kpkanitkar wrote:

Hello Chandrashekhar Ji

I agree with u there are different views for neechbhang rajyoga. For

Virgo ascendant Venus is in lagna which is neech/Delibilated. But

Some people say Jup is in Saggi 4th from Delib venus in lagna, Since

Jup, Lord of exaltation sign of Venus is in kendra from Venus and

Lagna , it sure causes neechbhanga. Can u please comment about this

situation?

Lagna Virgo

Venus is in Lagna in Virgo

Jup is in 4th house saggi.

Regards

AL

vedic astrology, Chandrashekhar Sharma

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Pradeep,

> There are many variations of Neechabhanga Rajayoga given in

various

> texts, oncluding the ones given by you. The strongest one is

formed

> when Lord of the houselord of the house in which the Neecha planet

> attains exaltation( taducchanath) , is placed in Kendra from the

> Ascendant or Moon. Even here the one formed by the said planet

being

> square to Ascendant is more powerful than that by squaring the

Moon

is

> what I think. Of course the other combinations do reduce the

effect

of

> planet being Neecha to some extent.

> Cancellation of a planet being Necha, which is different from

above

is

> also caused when the same planet is in exaltation in navamsha.

> In the chart where Moon is in scorpio, it is Venus( lord of Tarus

the

> exaltation sign of Moon) should be squaring Ascendant for a

Rajayoga of

> NBR variety to occur. Others may hold different views.

> Hope this helps,

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar wrote:

>

> > Dear Chandrashekar ji

> >

> > Among the definitions of Neecha Bhanga I have seen (only

translated

> > ones).

> >

> > The following two are in sync with the below chart.

> >

> > If the ruler of the sign occupied by the debilitated planet

is in

a

> > kendra position from the Moon or the Logna. (In the chart

ruler

is

> > Mars and it is in kendra from moon as moon conjuncts mars)

> >

> > If the ruler of the sign occupied by the debilitated planet

aspects

> > the planet. (here mars ia aspecting moon ,because of

conjunction)

> >

> > Have i understood these definitions properly.

> >

> > Thanks

> >

> > Pradeep

> >

> >

> > Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel]

> > Montag, 7. Juli 2003 22:17

> > vedic astrology

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated Jupiter in

LAGNA -

> > Chart and details

> >

> > Dear Pradeep,

> > Venus exated, specially as he is yoga karaka and Saturn in

> > exchange of house with Jupiter would make a difference.

Both

3rd

> > lord and Ascendant lord get strength. Moon debilitated

with

Mars

> > would not give rise to VRY.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar wrote:

> >

> >> Dear Chandrashekarji

> >>

> >> This individual did get help from siblings and they

were

never

> >> against.But no scarifice kind of.Moreover the

siblings did

not

> >> suffer from any serious troubles.All the siblings

were able

to

> >> get decent education.But no sibling could get status

and

fame as

> >> this individual.

> >> Moreover saturn in third house was along with exalted

venus.any

> >> help because of this?

> >>

> >> In labhasthana conjunction of Moon,Mars and Rahu is in

> >> scorpio.Debiliated Moon with 8th lord Mars produce

Neecha

bhanga

> >> Raja yoga?

> >> KALASARPA YOGA ? - Rahu and Ketu are not alone.

> >>

> >>

*******************************************************

> >> ** * *

**

> >> * * * *

*

*

> >> * * * *

*

*

> >> * * * *

* *

> >> * * * * *

MON *

> >> * * 11* * 9 *

MAR *

> >> * VEN 12 * Asc * 8 RAH *

> >> * SAT * * *

* *

> >> * * * JUP *

* *

> >> * * * *

* *

> >> * * * *

* *

> >> * * * 10 *

* *

> >> ** *

* **

> >> * SUN 1 * 7 *

> >> ** * 4 *

**

> >> * * * *

* *

> >> * * * *

* *

> >> * * * *

* *

> >> * * * *

* *

> >> * * * *

* *

> >> *MER 2 * * 6 *

> >> *KET * 3 * * 5 * *

> >> * * * *

* *

> >> * * * *

* *

> >> * * * *

* *

> >> * * * * *

*

> >> ** * *

**

> >>

*******************************************************

> >> if the learned members would like to know any further

details or

> >> life incidents,this can be provided.

> >> birth details (29th april,1937 00.50

AM,TRIVANDRUM,INDIA)

> >>

> >> Thanks

> >> Pradeep

> >>

> >>

> >> Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel]

> >> Sonntag, 6. Juli 2003 21:24

> >> vedic astrology

> >> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Debiliated

Jupiter in

LAGNA.

> >>

> >> Dear Pradeep,

> >> If you could , ask him whether any of the

brothers helped

> >> him/sacrificed for him aiding his success? Of

course we

are

> >> talking about natal chart only and if the lord of

3rd is

weak

> >> in Navamsha, help from brothers could be lacking.

> >> Chandrashekhar.

> >>

> >> vijayadas_pradeep wrote:

> >>

> >>> Dear Chandrashekar ji

> >>>

> >>> The person has 6 brothers and 2 sisters and

he is the

eldest

> >>> person.But success and fame was because of

own effort.so

> >>> thus can it

> >>> inferred that happiness due to more brothers

and

sisters are

> >>> the

> >>> only benefit of this exchange.Or any other

benefits due

to this

> >>> exchange.

> >>>

> >>> Thanks

> >>> Pradeep

> >>> vedic astrology,

Chandrashekhar

Sharma

> >>> <boxdel> wrote:

> >>> > Dear Pradeep,

> >>> > In that case, the prson comes up in life

by dint of

his own

> >>> efforts.

> >>> > Sometimes he gets help of his brothers

in his

elevation.

> >>> > Chandrashekhar.

> >>> >

> >>> > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar wrote:

> >>> >

> >>> > > Dear Zoran ji and chandrashekar ji

> >>> > >

> >>> > > How could be the results if there

is an exchange

between

> >>> lagna

> >>> lord

> >>> > > and debiliated 3rd lord.eg. for

Capri lagna jupiter

the

> >>> lord of

> >>> third

> >>> > > is in lagna and shani lord of lagna

is in third.What

> >>> general

> >>> results

> >>> > > can be expected because of third

and lagna lords.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Thanks

> >>> > > Pradeep

> >>> > >

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Zoran Radosavljevic

[ahimsa@N...]

> >>> > > Freitag, 4. Juli 2003

05:13

> >>> > > To:

vedic astrology

> >>> > > Re: [vedic astrology]

Re: Debiliated

> >>> Jupiter in

> >>> LAGNA.

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Dear Chandrakeshar,

> >>> > > Ernst has given a very valid

thinking, 3rd, 6th

and 8th

> >>> lords in

> >>> > > debilitation while Lagnesh is

well placed, gives

> >>> Raja Yoga

> >>> > > see Parashara. Further, Tasmin

Ucha Neecha Ve

> >>> Shrimanath-

> >>> Jaimini,

> >>> > > so exalted and debilitated

grahas are giver of

wealth,

> >>> > > If Guru is in Capricorn Lagna

while, Shani is

in own

> >>> sign in

> >>> > > kumbha, a great wealth may come

> >>> > > Best wishes

> >>> > > Zoran

> >>> > >

> >>> > > Chandrashekhar Sharma wrote:

> >>> > >

> >>> > >> Dear Mofie,

> >>> > >> mahapurusha yoga is given

rise to in any of the

> >>> Quadrants,

> >>> and

> >>> > >> not just 7th. The reason

for Jupiter's good

result in

> >>> > >> debilitation is that

Jupiter is said to harm

the

> >>> house that

> >>> he is

> >>> > >> placed in (Sthana

Bhrashta), in exaltation his

strength

> >>> > >> increases. Again he aspects

his exaltation sign

> >>> when placed

> >>> in

> >>> > >> debilitation, leading to

beneficial effects.

As a

> >>> matter of

> >>> fact

> >>> > >> one learned Jyotishi, Shri

Katwe, was of the

firm

> >>> opinion

> >>> that it

> >>> > >> is the debilitated planets

that give rise to

> >>> benefic yogas.

> >>> Of

> >>> > >> course this is not a

generally held opinion.

> >>> > >> Chandrashekhar.

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >> Mofie Augustine wrote:

> >>> > >>

> >>> > >>> Dear Guru's

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> Yeah I too had read

somewhere in list before

that

> >>> for a

> >>> capri

> >>> > >>> lagna natives, a

debiliated Guru in lagna is

more

> >>> > >>> favourable for them

than a exalted Guru in the

> >>> 7th. Why is

> >>> that

> >>> > >>> though Guru cause the

famous Mahapurusha

> >>> > >>> Yoga in the 7th but

it's still better to have

Guru

> >>> deb. in

> >>> > >>> lagna?? Can anyone

enlighten please?

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> Thanks

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> Mofie

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>> onlyhari wrote:

> >>> > >>>

> >>> > >>>> ---Om Brihaspataye

Namah---

> >>> > >>>> Dear Pradeep,

> >>> > >>>>

> >>> > >>>> Yes, it can give

luck to the individual and

such an

> >>> individual

> >>> > >>>> shall

> >>> > >>>> never be short of

money or fulfillment of

needs.

> >>> > >>>>

> >>> > >>>> The question is why?

> >>> > >>>>

> >>> > >>>> regards

> >>> > >>>> Hari

> >>> > >>>>

> >>> > >>>> vedic-

astrology , "Vijayadas,

> >>> Pradeep

> >>> > >>>> Kumar"

> >>> > >>>>

<PradeepKumar.Vijayadas@s...> wrote:

> >>> > >>>> > Respected

members

> >>> > >>>> >

> >>> > >>>> > If a

debiliated jupiter (Jupiter in

capricorn)

> >>> in lagna

> >>> is

> >>> > >>>> present,can

> >>> > >>>> > it still give

some luck to the individual.I

> >>> have found

> >>> this

> >>> > >>>> from a

> >>> > >>>> > chart.Can this

jupiter still bless the

houses

> >>> which it

> >>> aspects.

> >>> > >>>> >

> >>> > >>>> > Thanks

> >>> > >>>> > Pradeep

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