RE: Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

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Respected members.

 

Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets in the range 0-30 degrees

within any rashi, can we say the planet with highest degree be the

Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have retrogrades with least degrees,they will have

preference.

 

So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a rashi ,then naturally it should

become the Atmakaraka.But while analysing strength of planets ,planets in

infancy and old age are considered to be weak in producing full results.

 

So how does this go together.Is my understanding of Atmakaraka correct.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Chandrashekhar Sharma

[boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 13:46To:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?Dear

Raveendra,Atmakaraka is the planet with higest degrees having passed in a Rasi.

Since rahu and Ketu travel counterclockwise, they enter the rasi when highest

degrees and have passed highest degrees in Rasi when with least no of degrees.

Therefore one has to deduct the degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no

of degrees passed in a rasi . If this number is greater than that of other

planets then only they can claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only 8

Charakarakas are considered it is only Rahu which is considered for Atmakaraka

position and not Ketu. Some are of the view that Rahu only fits in when two

planets share one of the Karakatwas being of identical degres and the Krakatwa

position left blank on this account is taken by Rahu.Chandrashekhar.raveendra

yasarapu wrote:

Dear Group and Mr.Visti,

Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!

When finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet with the highest degrees in the

navamsa is taken for consideration.But I have seen some authors having

reservations about this rule,when one of the nodes have the highest

degrees.Could anyone please clarify?Chart appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is

sagittarius my karakamsa?

Warm Regards

Raveendra Nath

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|Hare Rama Krishna|Dear Pradeep,

Theres no mention of retrogrades, only Rahu has an exception because its constantly in retro motion.

Generally the Retro AK, indicates a very intense desire.

 

Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old

age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets in old age indicate that the learning

comes very late. Infancy indicates that one isn't ready for the learning when

it comes and hence the learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the

understanding of Balaadhi avasthas.

 

If this also becomes Gandanta or Dasa Sandhi position, the results are dangerous for health.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:51 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Respected members.

 

Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets in the range 0-30 degrees

within any rashi, can we say the planet with highest degree be the

Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have retrogrades with least degrees,they will have

preference.

 

So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a rashi ,then naturally it should

become the Atmakaraka.But while analysing strength of planets ,planets in

infancy and old age are considered to be weak in producing full results.

 

So how does this go together.Is my understanding of Atmakaraka correct.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Chandrashekhar Sharma

[boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 13:46To:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?Dear

Raveendra,Atmakaraka is the planet with higest degrees having passed in a Rasi.

Since rahu and Ketu travel counterclockwise, they enter the rasi when highest

degrees and have passed highest degrees in Rasi when with least no of degrees.

Therefore one has to deduct the degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no

of degrees passed in a rasi . If this number is greater than that of other

planets then only they can claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only 8

Charakarakas are considered it is only Rahu which is considered for Atmakaraka

position and not Ketu. Some are of the view that Rahu only fits in when two

planets share one of the Karakatwas being of identical degres and the Krakatwa

position left blank on this account is taken by Rahu.Chandrashekhar.raveendra

yasarapu wrote:

Dear Group and Mr.Visti,

Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!

When finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet with the highest degrees in the

navamsa is taken for consideration.But I have seen some authors having

reservations about this rule,when one of the nodes have the highest

degrees.Could anyone please clarify?Chart appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is

sagittarius my karakamsa?

Warm Regards

Raveendra Nath

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Dear Visti ji

 

Thanks for the clarification.

'Learning comes very late' - What is the learning mentioned here - I think it is

not merely education.

 

This statement from you made me think about the old and infant avasthas of

planets. I think the avasthas are in reference to only the Rashis and not to

the planets.The planet is infant or old within the rashi and the planet is not

old or infant as such.Am i right.

And from the articles you had referred for atmakaraka , i have found that

Atmakaraka doesnt depend on Rashis.

 

But one doubt which is still there in my mind is - As avasthas can be explained

only with respect to Rashis ,and at the same time Atmakaraka doesnt depend on

Rashis,how could we interpret the indications of Atmakaraka based on Avasthas

(For eg if atmakaraka is in old age -learning comes late and when it is

infant...)

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 18:46vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Hare Rama Krishna|Dear Pradeep,

Theres no mention of retrogrades, only Rahu has an exception because its constantly in retro motion.

Generally the Retro AK, indicates a very intense desire.

 

Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old

age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets in old age indicate that the learning

comes very late. Infancy indicates that one isn't ready for the learning when

it comes and hence the learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the

understanding of Balaadhi avasthas.

 

If this also becomes Gandanta or Dasa Sandhi position, the results are dangerous for health.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:51 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Respected members.

 

Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets in the range 0-30 degrees

within any rashi, can we say the planet with highest degree be the

Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have retrogrades with least degrees,they will have

preference.

 

So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a rashi ,then naturally it should

become the Atmakaraka.But while analysing strength of planets ,planets in

infancy and old age are considered to be weak in producing full results.

 

So how does this go together.Is my understanding of Atmakaraka correct.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Chandrashekhar Sharma

[boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 13:46To:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?Dear

Raveendra,Atmakaraka is the planet with higest degrees having passed in a Rasi.

Since rahu and Ketu travel counterclockwise, they enter the rasi when highest

degrees and have passed highest degrees in Rasi when with least no of degrees.

Therefore one has to deduct the degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no

of degrees passed in a rasi . If this number is greater than that of other

planets then only they can claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only 8

Charakarakas are considered it is only Rahu which is considered for Atmakaraka

position and not Ketu. Some are of the view that Rahu only fits in when two

planets share one of the Karakatwas being of identical degres and the Krakatwa

position left blank on this account is taken by Rahu.Chandrashekhar.raveendra

yasarapu wrote:

Dear Group and Mr.Visti,

Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!

When finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet with the highest degrees in the

navamsa is taken for consideration.But I have seen some authors having

reservations about this rule,when one of the nodes have the highest

degrees.Could anyone please clarify?Chart appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is

sagittarius my karakamsa?

Warm Regards

Raveendra Nath

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|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Pradeep,

Thanks for the clarification.

'Learning comes very late' - What is the learning mentioned here - I think it is

not merely education.

Visti: Its Atmagyaan. The AK represents the individual soul which has taken

birth to learn specific lessons so it can end its cycle of rebirth. Its usually

not an easy lesson, depending on the avastha and charechteristics of the planet

becoming Atmakaraka.

 

This statement from you made me think about the old and infant avasthas of

planets. I think the avasthas are in reference to only the Rashis and not to

the planets.The planet is infant or old within the rashi and the planet is not

old or infant as such.Am i right.

And from the articles you had referred for atmakaraka , i have found that

Atmakaraka doesnt depend on Rashis.

 

Visti: The planets are the ones who occupy certain avasthas of a rasi, so it

is the planets which attain specific avasthas. The AK is also a planet, so it

will naturally also occupy an avastha, hence we can understand the details of

the AK. There are also many other types of Avasthas than the mentioned Balaadhi

avasthas.

 

But one doubt which is still there in my mind is - As avasthas can be explained

only with respect to Rashis ,and at the same time Atmakaraka doesnt depend on

Rashis,how could we interpret the indications of Atmakaraka based on Avasthas

(For eg if atmakaraka is in old age -learning comes late and when it is

infant...)

 

Visti: Allready answered above.

 

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:33 AM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Dear Visti ji

 

Thanks for the clarification.

'Learning comes very late' - What is the learning mentioned here - I think it is

not merely education.

 

This statement from you made me think about the old and infant avasthas of

planets. I think the avasthas are in reference to only the Rashis and not to

the planets.The planet is infant or old within the rashi and the planet is not

old or infant as such.Am i right.

And from the articles you had referred for atmakaraka , i have found that

Atmakaraka doesnt depend on Rashis.

 

But one doubt which is still there in my mind is - As avasthas can be explained

only with respect to Rashis ,and at the same time Atmakaraka doesnt depend on

Rashis,how could we interpret the indications of Atmakaraka based on Avasthas

(For eg if atmakaraka is in old age -learning comes late and when it is

infant...)

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 18:46vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Hare Rama Krishna|Dear Pradeep,

Theres no mention of retrogrades, only Rahu has an exception because its constantly in retro motion.

Generally the Retro AK, indicates a very intense desire.

 

Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old

age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets in old age indicate that the learning

comes very late. Infancy indicates that one isn't ready for the learning when

it comes and hence the learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the

understanding of Balaadhi avasthas.

 

If this also becomes Gandanta or Dasa Sandhi position, the results are dangerous for health.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:51 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Respected members.

 

Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets in the range 0-30 degrees

within any rashi, can we say the planet with highest degree be the

Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have retrogrades with least degrees,they will have

preference.

 

So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a rashi ,then naturally it should

become the Atmakaraka.But while analysing strength of planets ,planets in

infancy and old age are considered to be weak in producing full results.

 

So how does this go together.Is my understanding of Atmakaraka correct.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Chandrashekhar Sharma

[boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 13:46To:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?Dear

Raveendra,Atmakaraka is the planet with higest degrees having passed in a Rasi.

Since rahu and Ketu travel counterclockwise, they enter the rasi when highest

degrees and have passed highest degrees in Rasi when with least no of degrees.

Therefore one has to deduct the degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no

of degrees passed in a rasi . If this number is greater than that of other

planets then only they can claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only 8

Charakarakas are considered it is only Rahu which is considered for Atmakaraka

position and not Ketu. Some are of the view that Rahu only fits in when two

planets share one of the Karakatwas being of identical degres and the Krakatwa

position left blank on this account is taken by Rahu.Chandrashekhar.raveendra

yasarapu wrote:

Dear Group and Mr.Visti,

Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!

When finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet with the highest degrees in the

navamsa is taken for consideration.But I have seen some authors having

reservations about this rule,when one of the nodes have the highest

degrees.Could anyone please clarify?Chart appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is

sagittarius my karakamsa?

Warm Regards

Raveendra Nath

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Dear Visti ji

 

So Atmagyaan is what that is mentioned in the article link which you had sent.

For each planet (Atmakaraka) there was a specific learning mentioned.

 

But regarding the other explanation i still need help.

 

Because Atmakaraka is for the whole and not for that particular rashi alone.And

specific avastha was attained by virtue of its angular placement within that

particular rashi.So how could we extend that to the whole chart.

 

I am not sure whether my query is a proper one or not!

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

 

 

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003 10:52vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Pradeep,

Thanks for the clarification.

'Learning comes very late' - What is the learning mentioned here - I think it is

not merely education.

Visti: Its Atmagyaan. The AK represents the individual soul which has taken

birth to learn specific lessons so it can end its cycle of rebirth. Its usually

not an easy lesson, depending on the avastha and charechteristics of the planet

becoming Atmakaraka.

 

This statement from you made me think about the old and infant avasthas of

planets. I think the avasthas are in reference to only the Rashis and not to

the planets.The planet is infant or old within the rashi and the planet is not

old or infant as such.Am i right.

And from the articles you had referred for atmakaraka , i have found that

Atmakaraka doesnt depend on Rashis.

 

Visti: The planets are the ones who occupy certain avasthas of a rasi, so it

is the planets which attain specific avasthas. The AK is also a planet, so it

will naturally also occupy an avastha, hence we can understand the details of

the AK. There are also many other types of Avasthas than the mentioned Balaadhi

avasthas.

 

But one doubt which is still there in my mind is - As avasthas can be explained

only with respect to Rashis ,and at the same time Atmakaraka doesnt depend on

Rashis,how could we interpret the indications of Atmakaraka based on Avasthas

(For eg if atmakaraka is in old age -learning comes late and when it is

infant...)

 

Visti: Allready answered above.

 

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:33 AM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Dear Visti ji

 

Thanks for the clarification.

'Learning comes very late' - What is the learning mentioned here - I think it is

not merely education.

 

This statement from you made me think about the old and infant avasthas of

planets. I think the avasthas are in reference to only the Rashis and not to

the planets.The planet is infant or old within the rashi and the planet is not

old or infant as such.Am i right.

And from the articles you had referred for atmakaraka , i have found that

Atmakaraka doesnt depend on Rashis.

 

But one doubt which is still there in my mind is - As avasthas can be explained

only with respect to Rashis ,and at the same time Atmakaraka doesnt depend on

Rashis,how could we interpret the indications of Atmakaraka based on Avasthas

(For eg if atmakaraka is in old age -learning comes late and when it is

infant...)

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 18:46vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Hare Rama Krishna|Dear Pradeep,

Theres no mention of retrogrades, only Rahu has an exception because its constantly in retro motion.

Generally the Retro AK, indicates a very intense desire.

 

Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old

age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets in old age indicate that the learning

comes very late. Infancy indicates that one isn't ready for the learning when

it comes and hence the learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the

understanding of Balaadhi avasthas.

 

If this also becomes Gandanta or Dasa Sandhi position, the results are dangerous for health.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:51 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Respected members.

 

Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets in the range 0-30 degrees

within any rashi, can we say the planet with highest degree be the

Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have retrogrades with least degrees,they will have

preference.

 

So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a rashi ,then naturally it should

become the Atmakaraka.But while analysing strength of planets ,planets in

infancy and old age are considered to be weak in producing full results.

 

So how does this go together.Is my understanding of Atmakaraka correct.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Chandrashekhar Sharma

[boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 13:46To:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?Dear

Raveendra,Atmakaraka is the planet with higest degrees having passed in a Rasi.

Since rahu and Ketu travel counterclockwise, they enter the rasi when highest

degrees and have passed highest degrees in Rasi when with least no of degrees.

Therefore one has to deduct the degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no

of degrees passed in a rasi . If this number is greater than that of other

planets then only they can claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only 8

Charakarakas are considered it is only Rahu which is considered for Atmakaraka

position and not Ketu. Some are of the view that Rahu only fits in when two

planets share one of the Karakatwas being of identical degres and the Krakatwa

position left blank on this account is taken by Rahu.Chandrashekhar.raveendra

yasarapu wrote:

Dear Group and Mr.Visti,

Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!

When finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet with the highest degrees in the

navamsa is taken for consideration.But I have seen some authors having

reservations about this rule,when one of the nodes have the highest

degrees.Could anyone please clarify?Chart appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is

sagittarius my karakamsa?

Warm Regards

Raveendra Nath

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|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Pradeep,

 

So Atmagyaan is what that is mentioned in the article link which you had sent.

For each planet (Atmakaraka) there was a specific learning mentioned.

Visti: Yes.

But regarding the other explanation i still need help.

 

Because Atmakaraka is for the whole and not for that particular rashi alone.And

specific avastha was attained by virtue of its angular placement within that

particular rashi.So how could we extend that to the whole chart.

 

Visti: Atmakaraka is for the self - the Atma. The other Chara Karaka's are

for other parts. The Avastha of the chara atmakaraka will tell you how the

learning comes. I think you need to change your attitude towards the chart

abit.

 

I am not sure whether my query is a proper one or not!

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:05 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Dear Visti ji

 

So Atmagyaan is what that is mentioned in the article link which you had sent.

For each planet (Atmakaraka) there was a specific learning mentioned.

 

But regarding the other explanation i still need help.

 

Because Atmakaraka is for the whole and not for that particular rashi alone.And

specific avastha was attained by virtue of its angular placement within that

particular rashi.So how could we extend that to the whole chart.

 

I am not sure whether my query is a proper one or not!

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

 

 

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003 10:52vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Pradeep,

Thanks for the clarification.

'Learning comes very late' - What is the learning mentioned here - I think it is

not merely education.

Visti: Its Atmagyaan. The AK represents the individual soul which has taken

birth to learn specific lessons so it can end its cycle of rebirth. Its usually

not an easy lesson, depending on the avastha and charechteristics of the planet

becoming Atmakaraka.

 

This statement from you made me think about the old and infant avasthas of

planets. I think the avasthas are in reference to only the Rashis and not to

the planets.The planet is infant or old within the rashi and the planet is not

old or infant as such.Am i right.

And from the articles you had referred for atmakaraka , i have found that

Atmakaraka doesnt depend on Rashis.

 

Visti: The planets are the ones who occupy certain avasthas of a rasi, so it

is the planets which attain specific avasthas. The AK is also a planet, so it

will naturally also occupy an avastha, hence we can understand the details of

the AK. There are also many other types of Avasthas than the mentioned Balaadhi

avasthas.

 

But one doubt which is still there in my mind is - As avasthas can be explained

only with respect to Rashis ,and at the same time Atmakaraka doesnt depend on

Rashis,how could we interpret the indications of Atmakaraka based on Avasthas

(For eg if atmakaraka is in old age -learning comes late and when it is

infant...)

 

Visti: Allready answered above.

 

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:33 AM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Dear Visti ji

 

Thanks for the clarification.

'Learning comes very late' - What is the learning mentioned here - I think it is

not merely education.

 

This statement from you made me think about the old and infant avasthas of

planets. I think the avasthas are in reference to only the Rashis and not to

the planets.The planet is infant or old within the rashi and the planet is not

old or infant as such.Am i right.

And from the articles you had referred for atmakaraka , i have found that

Atmakaraka doesnt depend on Rashis.

 

But one doubt which is still there in my mind is - As avasthas can be explained

only with respect to Rashis ,and at the same time Atmakaraka doesnt depend on

Rashis,how could we interpret the indications of Atmakaraka based on Avasthas

(For eg if atmakaraka is in old age -learning comes late and when it is

infant...)

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 18:46vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Hare Rama Krishna|Dear Pradeep,

Theres no mention of retrogrades, only Rahu has an exception because its constantly in retro motion.

Generally the Retro AK, indicates a very intense desire.

 

Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old

age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets in old age indicate that the learning

comes very late. Infancy indicates that one isn't ready for the learning when

it comes and hence the learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the

understanding of Balaadhi avasthas.

 

If this also becomes Gandanta or Dasa Sandhi position, the results are dangerous for health.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:51 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Respected members.

 

Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets in the range 0-30 degrees

within any rashi, can we say the planet with highest degree be the

Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have retrogrades with least degrees,they will have

preference.

 

So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a rashi ,then naturally it should

become the Atmakaraka.But while analysing strength of planets ,planets in

infancy and old age are considered to be weak in producing full results.

 

So how does this go together.Is my understanding of Atmakaraka correct.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Chandrashekhar Sharma

[boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 13:46To:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?Dear

Raveendra,Atmakaraka is the planet with higest degrees having passed in a Rasi.

Since rahu and Ketu travel counterclockwise, they enter the rasi when highest

degrees and have passed highest degrees in Rasi when with least no of degrees.

Therefore one has to deduct the degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no

of degrees passed in a rasi . If this number is greater than that of other

planets then only they can claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only 8

Charakarakas are considered it is only Rahu which is considered for Atmakaraka

position and not Ketu. Some are of the view that Rahu only fits in when two

planets share one of the Karakatwas being of identical degres and the Krakatwa

position left blank on this account is taken by Rahu.Chandrashekhar.raveendra

yasarapu wrote:

Dear Group and Mr.Visti,

Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!

When finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet with the highest degrees in the

navamsa is taken for consideration.But I have seen some authors having

reservations about this rule,when one of the nodes have the highest

degrees.Could anyone please clarify?Chart appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is

sagittarius my karakamsa?

Warm Regards

Raveendra Nath

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Dear VistiJi

 

Thanks again.

So my understanding now is Atmakaraka, as the name signifies, is for the self

and self learning.And how the learning comes is purely dependent on the avastha

and nothing else. Plus i have seen the effects of atmakaraka due to navamsha

placements, from the link.

 

Thanks a lot

Pradeep

 

 

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003 14:19vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Pradeep,

 

So Atmagyaan is what that is mentioned in the article link which you had sent.

For each planet (Atmakaraka) there was a specific learning mentioned.

Visti: Yes.

But regarding the other explanation i still need help.

 

Because Atmakaraka is for the whole and not for that particular rashi alone.And

specific avastha was attained by virtue of its angular placement within that

particular rashi.So how could we extend that to the whole chart.

 

Visti: Atmakaraka is for the self - the Atma. The other Chara Karaka's are

for other parts. The Avastha of the chara atmakaraka will tell you how the

learning comes. I think you need to change your attitude towards the chart

abit.

 

I am not sure whether my query is a proper one or not!

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:05 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Dear Visti ji

 

So Atmagyaan is what that is mentioned in the article link which you had sent.

For each planet (Atmakaraka) there was a specific learning mentioned.

 

But regarding the other explanation i still need help.

 

Because Atmakaraka is for the whole and not for that particular rashi alone.And

specific avastha was attained by virtue of its angular placement within that

particular rashi.So how could we extend that to the whole chart.

 

I am not sure whether my query is a proper one or not!

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

 

 

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003 10:52vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Pradeep,

Thanks for the clarification.

'Learning comes very late' - What is the learning mentioned here - I think it is

not merely education.

Visti: Its Atmagyaan. The AK represents the individual soul which has taken

birth to learn specific lessons so it can end its cycle of rebirth. Its usually

not an easy lesson, depending on the avastha and charechteristics of the planet

becoming Atmakaraka.

 

This statement from you made me think about the old and infant avasthas of

planets. I think the avasthas are in reference to only the Rashis and not to

the planets.The planet is infant or old within the rashi and the planet is not

old or infant as such.Am i right.

And from the articles you had referred for atmakaraka , i have found that

Atmakaraka doesnt depend on Rashis.

 

Visti: The planets are the ones who occupy certain avasthas of a rasi, so it

is the planets which attain specific avasthas. The AK is also a planet, so it

will naturally also occupy an avastha, hence we can understand the details of

the AK. There are also many other types of Avasthas than the mentioned Balaadhi

avasthas.

 

But one doubt which is still there in my mind is - As avasthas can be explained

only with respect to Rashis ,and at the same time Atmakaraka doesnt depend on

Rashis,how could we interpret the indications of Atmakaraka based on Avasthas

(For eg if atmakaraka is in old age -learning comes late and when it is

infant...)

 

Visti: Allready answered above.

 

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:33 AM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Dear Visti ji

 

Thanks for the clarification.

'Learning comes very late' - What is the learning mentioned here - I think it is

not merely education.

 

This statement from you made me think about the old and infant avasthas of

planets. I think the avasthas are in reference to only the Rashis and not to

the planets.The planet is infant or old within the rashi and the planet is not

old or infant as such.Am i right.

And from the articles you had referred for atmakaraka , i have found that

Atmakaraka doesnt depend on Rashis.

 

But one doubt which is still there in my mind is - As avasthas can be explained

only with respect to Rashis ,and at the same time Atmakaraka doesnt depend on

Rashis,how could we interpret the indications of Atmakaraka based on Avasthas

(For eg if atmakaraka is in old age -learning comes late and when it is

infant...)

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 18:46vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Hare Rama Krishna|Dear Pradeep,

Theres no mention of retrogrades, only Rahu has an exception because its constantly in retro motion.

Generally the Retro AK, indicates a very intense desire.

 

Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old

age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets in old age indicate that the learning

comes very late. Infancy indicates that one isn't ready for the learning when

it comes and hence the learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the

understanding of Balaadhi avasthas.

 

If this also becomes Gandanta or Dasa Sandhi position, the results are dangerous for health.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:51 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Respected members.

 

Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets in the range 0-30 degrees

within any rashi, can we say the planet with highest degree be the

Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have retrogrades with least degrees,they will have

preference.

 

So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a rashi ,then naturally it should

become the Atmakaraka.But while analysing strength of planets ,planets in

infancy and old age are considered to be weak in producing full results.

 

So how does this go together.Is my understanding of Atmakaraka correct.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Chandrashekhar Sharma

[boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 13:46To:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?Dear

Raveendra,Atmakaraka is the planet with higest degrees having passed in a Rasi.

Since rahu and Ketu travel counterclockwise, they enter the rasi when highest

degrees and have passed highest degrees in Rasi when with least no of degrees.

Therefore one has to deduct the degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no

of degrees passed in a rasi . If this number is greater than that of other

planets then only they can claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only 8

Charakarakas are considered it is only Rahu which is considered for Atmakaraka

position and not Ketu. Some are of the view that Rahu only fits in when two

planets share one of the Karakatwas being of identical degres and the Krakatwa

position left blank on this account is taken by Rahu.Chandrashekhar.raveendra

yasarapu wrote:

Dear Group and Mr.Visti,

Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!

When finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet with the highest degrees in the

navamsa is taken for consideration.But I have seen some authors having

reservations about this rule,when one of the nodes have the highest

degrees.Could anyone please clarify?Chart appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is

sagittarius my karakamsa?

Warm Regards

Raveendra Nath

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|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Pradeep,

All planets give their results based on their nature, their lordship and their

placement. In the word placement we mean avastha, and here there are MANY types

of Avastha. Even the placement in the sign itself confers a specific

avastha.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS

99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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vedic astrology

Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:28 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Dear VistiJi

 

Thanks again.

So my understanding now is Atmakaraka, as the name signifies, is for the self

and self learning.And how the learning comes is purely dependent on the avastha

and nothing else. Plus i have seen the effects of atmakaraka due to navamsha

placements, from the link.

 

Thanks a lot

Pradeep

 

 

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003 14:19vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Pradeep,

 

So Atmagyaan is what that is mentioned in the article link which you had sent.

For each planet (Atmakaraka) there was a specific learning mentioned.

Visti: Yes.

But regarding the other explanation i still need help.

 

Because Atmakaraka is for the whole and not for that particular rashi alone.And

specific avastha was attained by virtue of its angular placement within that

particular rashi.So how could we extend that to the whole chart.

 

Visti: Atmakaraka is for the self - the Atma. The other Chara Karaka's are

for other parts. The Avastha of the chara atmakaraka will tell you how the

learning comes. I think you need to change your attitude towards the chart

abit.

 

I am not sure whether my query is a proper one or not!

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:05 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Dear Visti ji

 

So Atmagyaan is what that is mentioned in the article link which you had sent.

For each planet (Atmakaraka) there was a specific learning mentioned.

 

But regarding the other explanation i still need help.

 

Because Atmakaraka is for the whole and not for that particular rashi alone.And

specific avastha was attained by virtue of its angular placement within that

particular rashi.So how could we extend that to the whole chart.

 

I am not sure whether my query is a proper one or not!

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

 

 

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003 10:52vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Pradeep,

Thanks for the clarification.

'Learning comes very late' - What is the learning mentioned here - I think it is

not merely education.

Visti: Its Atmagyaan. The AK represents the individual soul which has taken

birth to learn specific lessons so it can end its cycle of rebirth. Its usually

not an easy lesson, depending on the avastha and charechteristics of the planet

becoming Atmakaraka.

 

This statement from you made me think about the old and infant avasthas of

planets. I think the avasthas are in reference to only the Rashis and not to

the planets.The planet is infant or old within the rashi and the planet is not

old or infant as such.Am i right.

And from the articles you had referred for atmakaraka , i have found that

Atmakaraka doesnt depend on Rashis.

 

Visti: The planets are the ones who occupy certain avasthas of a rasi, so it

is the planets which attain specific avasthas. The AK is also a planet, so it

will naturally also occupy an avastha, hence we can understand the details of

the AK. There are also many other types of Avasthas than the mentioned Balaadhi

avasthas.

 

But one doubt which is still there in my mind is - As avasthas can be explained

only with respect to Rashis ,and at the same time Atmakaraka doesnt depend on

Rashis,how could we interpret the indications of Atmakaraka based on Avasthas

(For eg if atmakaraka is in old age -learning comes late and when it is

infant...)

 

Visti: Allready answered above.

 

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:33 AM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Dear Visti ji

 

Thanks for the clarification.

'Learning comes very late' - What is the learning mentioned here - I think it is

not merely education.

 

This statement from you made me think about the old and infant avasthas of

planets. I think the avasthas are in reference to only the Rashis and not to

the planets.The planet is infant or old within the rashi and the planet is not

old or infant as such.Am i right.

And from the articles you had referred for atmakaraka , i have found that

Atmakaraka doesnt depend on Rashis.

 

But one doubt which is still there in my mind is - As avasthas can be explained

only with respect to Rashis ,and at the same time Atmakaraka doesnt depend on

Rashis,how could we interpret the indications of Atmakaraka based on Avasthas

(For eg if atmakaraka is in old age -learning comes late and when it is

infant...)

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 18:46vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Hare Rama Krishna|Dear Pradeep,

Theres no mention of retrogrades, only Rahu has an exception because its constantly in retro motion.

Generally the Retro AK, indicates a very intense desire.

 

Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old

age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets in old age indicate that the learning

comes very late. Infancy indicates that one isn't ready for the learning when

it comes and hence the learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the

understanding of Balaadhi avasthas.

 

If this also becomes Gandanta or Dasa Sandhi position, the results are dangerous for health.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

-

Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:51 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Respected members.

 

Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets in the range 0-30 degrees

within any rashi, can we say the planet with highest degree be the

Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have retrogrades with least degrees,they will have

preference.

 

So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a rashi ,then naturally it should

become the Atmakaraka.But while analysing strength of planets ,planets in

infancy and old age are considered to be weak in producing full results.

 

So how does this go together.Is my understanding of Atmakaraka correct.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Chandrashekhar Sharma

[boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 13:46To:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?Dear

Raveendra,Atmakaraka is the planet with higest degrees having passed in a Rasi.

Since rahu and Ketu travel counterclockwise, they enter the rasi when highest

degrees and have passed highest degrees in Rasi when with least no of degrees.

Therefore one has to deduct the degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no

of degrees passed in a rasi . If this number is greater than that of other

planets then only they can claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only 8

Charakarakas are considered it is only Rahu which is considered for Atmakaraka

position and not Ketu. Some are of the view that Rahu only fits in when two

planets share one of the Karakatwas being of identical degres and the Krakatwa

position left blank on this account is taken by Rahu.Chandrashekhar.raveendra

yasarapu wrote:

Dear Group and Mr.Visti,

Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!

When finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet with the highest degrees in the

navamsa is taken for consideration.But I have seen some authors having

reservations about this rule,when one of the nodes have the highest

degrees.Could anyone please clarify?Chart appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is

sagittarius my karakamsa?

Warm Regards

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Dear Vistiji

 

Thanks for this clarification.Especially the sentence 'placement in the sign

itself is an avastha'.Thanks again for making the fundamentals clear.I was

thinking avastha was related to the degrees within the rashi,alone.

 

regds

Pradeep

 

----Original Message-----Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003 14:33vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Pradeep,

All planets give their results based on their nature, their lordship and their

placement. In the word placement we mean avastha, and here there are MANY types

of Avastha. Even the placement in the sign itself confers a specific

avastha.Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center:

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vedic astrology

Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:28 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Dear VistiJi

 

Thanks again.

So my understanding now is Atmakaraka, as the name signifies, is for the self

and self learning.And how the learning comes is purely dependent on the avastha

and nothing else. Plus i have seen the effects of atmakaraka due to navamsha

placements, from the link.

 

Thanks a lot

Pradeep

 

 

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003 14:19vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Pradeep,

 

So Atmagyaan is what that is mentioned in the article link which you had sent.

For each planet (Atmakaraka) there was a specific learning mentioned.

Visti: Yes.

But regarding the other explanation i still need help.

 

Because Atmakaraka is for the whole and not for that particular rashi alone.And

specific avastha was attained by virtue of its angular placement within that

particular rashi.So how could we extend that to the whole chart.

 

Visti: Atmakaraka is for the self - the Atma. The other Chara Karaka's are

for other parts. The Avastha of the chara atmakaraka will tell you how the

learning comes. I think you need to change your attitude towards the chart

abit.

 

I am not sure whether my query is a proper one or not!

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vedic astrology

Thursday, July 10, 2003 2:05 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Dear Visti ji

 

So Atmagyaan is what that is mentioned in the article link which you had sent.

For each planet (Atmakaraka) there was a specific learning mentioned.

 

But regarding the other explanation i still need help.

 

Because Atmakaraka is for the whole and not for that particular rashi alone.And

specific avastha was attained by virtue of its angular placement within that

particular rashi.So how could we extend that to the whole chart.

 

I am not sure whether my query is a proper one or not!

 

Thanks

Pradeep

 

 

 

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Donnerstag, 10. Juli 2003 10:52vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Pradeep,

Thanks for the clarification.

'Learning comes very late' - What is the learning mentioned here - I think it is

not merely education.

Visti: Its Atmagyaan. The AK represents the individual soul which has taken

birth to learn specific lessons so it can end its cycle of rebirth. Its usually

not an easy lesson, depending on the avastha and charechteristics of the planet

becoming Atmakaraka.

 

This statement from you made me think about the old and infant avasthas of

planets. I think the avasthas are in reference to only the Rashis and not to

the planets.The planet is infant or old within the rashi and the planet is not

old or infant as such.Am i right.

And from the articles you had referred for atmakaraka , i have found that

Atmakaraka doesnt depend on Rashis.

 

Visti: The planets are the ones who occupy certain avasthas of a rasi, so it

is the planets which attain specific avasthas. The AK is also a planet, so it

will naturally also occupy an avastha, hence we can understand the details of

the AK. There are also many other types of Avasthas than the mentioned Balaadhi

avasthas.

 

But one doubt which is still there in my mind is - As avasthas can be explained

only with respect to Rashis ,and at the same time Atmakaraka doesnt depend on

Rashis,how could we interpret the indications of Atmakaraka based on Avasthas

(For eg if atmakaraka is in old age -learning comes late and when it is

infant...)

 

Visti: Allready answered above.

 

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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vedic astrology

Thursday, July 10, 2003 9:33 AM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Dear Visti ji

 

Thanks for the clarification.

'Learning comes very late' - What is the learning mentioned here - I think it is

not merely education.

 

This statement from you made me think about the old and infant avasthas of

planets. I think the avasthas are in reference to only the Rashis and not to

the planets.The planet is infant or old within the rashi and the planet is not

old or infant as such.Am i right.

And from the articles you had referred for atmakaraka , i have found that

Atmakaraka doesnt depend on Rashis.

 

But one doubt which is still there in my mind is - As avasthas can be explained

only with respect to Rashis ,and at the same time Atmakaraka doesnt depend on

Rashis,how could we interpret the indications of Atmakaraka based on Avasthas

(For eg if atmakaraka is in old age -learning comes late and when it is

infant...)

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Visti Larsen [vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk] Sent:

Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 18:46vedic astrologySubject: Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

 

|Hare Rama Krishna|Dear Pradeep,

Theres no mention of retrogrades, only Rahu has an exception because its constantly in retro motion.

Generally the Retro AK, indicates a very intense desire.

 

Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old

age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets in old age indicate that the learning

comes very late. Infancy indicates that one isn't ready for the learning when

it comes and hence the learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the

understanding of Balaadhi avasthas.

 

If this also becomes Gandanta or Dasa Sandhi position, the results are dangerous for health.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:51 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

Respected members.

 

Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets in the range 0-30 degrees

within any rashi, can we say the planet with highest degree be the

Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have retrogrades with least degrees,they will have

preference.

 

So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a rashi ,then naturally it should

become the Atmakaraka.But while analysing strength of planets ,planets in

infancy and old age are considered to be weak in producing full results.

 

So how does this go together.Is my understanding of Atmakaraka correct.

 

Thanks

Pradeep

Chandrashekhar Sharma

[boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk] Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 13:46To:

vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?Dear

Raveendra,Atmakaraka is the planet with higest degrees having passed in a Rasi.

Since rahu and Ketu travel counterclockwise, they enter the rasi when highest

degrees and have passed highest degrees in Rasi when with least no of degrees.

Therefore one has to deduct the degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no

of degrees passed in a rasi . If this number is greater than that of other

planets then only they can claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only 8

Charakarakas are considered it is only Rahu which is considered for Atmakaraka

position and not Ketu. Some are of the view that Rahu only fits in when two

planets share one of the Karakatwas being of identical degres and the Krakatwa

position left blank on this account is taken by Rahu.Chandrashekhar.raveendra

yasarapu wrote:

Dear Group and Mr.Visti,

Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!

When finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet with the highest degrees in the

navamsa is taken for consideration.But I have seen some authors having

reservations about this rule,when one of the nodes have the highest

degrees.Could anyone please clarify?Chart appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is

sagittarius my karakamsa?

Warm Regards

Raveendra Nath

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dear Visti,

 

one little question: you said "Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some

less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old age, whilst in even its

infancy. Planets in old age indicate that the learning comes very

late."

 

what if the AK is in an even sign, in 29 degrees? is that different

in its effect?

 

rani.

 

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wrote:

> Message

> |Hare Rama Krishna|

> Dear Pradeep,

> Theres no mention of retrogrades, only Rahu has an exception

because its constantly in retro motion.

> Generally the Retro AK, indicates a very intense desire.

>

> Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this is in Odd signs,

this is old age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets in old age

indicate that the learning comes very late. Infancy indicates that

one isn't ready for the learning when it comes and hence the

learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the understanding of

Balaadhi avasthas.

>

> If this also becomes Gandanta or Dasa Sandhi position, the results

are dangerous for health.

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

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> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

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> Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:51 PM

> RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a

planet.

>

>

> Respected members.

>

> Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets in the range 0-

30 degrees within any rashi, can we say the planet with highest

degree be the Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have retrogrades with least

degrees,they will have preference.

>

> So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a rashi ,then

naturally it should become the Atmakaraka.But while analysing

strength of planets ,planets in infancy and old age are considered

to be weak in producing full results.

>

> So how does this go together.Is my understanding of Atmakaraka

correct.

>

> Thanks

> Pradeep

>

> Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel]

> Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 13:46

> vedic astrology

> Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?

>

>

> Dear Raveendra,

> Atmakaraka is the planet with higest degrees having passed in

a Rasi. Since rahu and Ketu travel counterclockwise, they enter the

rasi when highest degrees and have passed highest degrees in Rasi

when with least no of degrees. Therefore one has to deduct the

degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no of degrees passed in

a rasi . If this number is greater than that of other planets then

only they can claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only 8 Charakarakas

are considered it is only Rahu which is considered for Atmakaraka

position and not Ketu. Some are of the view that Rahu only fits in

when two planets share one of the Karakatwas being of identical

degres and the Krakatwa position left blank on this account is taken

by Rahu.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

> raveendra yasarapu wrote:

>

> Dear Group and Mr.Visti,

> Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!

> When finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet with the highest

degrees in the navamsa is taken for consideration.But I have seen

some authors having reservations about this rule,when one of the

nodes have the highest degrees.Could anyone please clarify?Chart

appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is sagittarius my karakamsa?

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Hi,

 

I was reading up the follow ups regarding AK. I have

mercury as my AK placed in 8th house ( Mercury

(Retrograde) - AK - 25 Pi 50' 11.68"). Also it is

debiliated and retro.

 

Can anyone advise or tell more about it, what could be

inferred more from it.

 

As AK is for self, does it shows a lot of problems.

 

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--- raindancer_1998 <raindancer_1998 wrote:

> dear Visti,

>

> one little question: you said "Not all Ak's reach 29

> degrees, some

> less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old age,

> whilst in even its

> infancy. Planets in old age indicate that the

> learning comes very

> late."

>

> what if the AK is in an even sign, in 29 degrees? is

> that different

> in its effect?

>

> rani.

>

> vedic astrology, "Visti

> Larsen" <vishnu@l...>

> wrote:

> > Message

> > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > Dear Pradeep,

> > Theres no mention of retrogrades, only Rahu has an

> exception

> because its constantly in retro motion.

> > Generally the Retro AK, indicates a very intense

> desire.

> >

> > Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this

> is in Odd signs,

> this is old age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets

> in old age

> indicate that the learning comes very late. Infancy

> indicates that

> one isn't ready for the learning when it comes and

> hence the

> learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the

> understanding of

> Balaadhi avasthas.

> >

> > If this also becomes Gandanta or Dasa Sandhi

> position, the results

> are dangerous for health.

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > -

> > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

> > vedic astrology

> > Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:51 PM

> > RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and

> old age of a

> planet.

> >

> >

> > Respected members.

> >

> > Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets

> in the range 0-

> 30 degrees within any rashi, can we say the planet

> with highest

> degree be the Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have

> retrogrades with least

> degrees,they will have preference.

> >

> > So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a

> rashi ,then

> naturally it should become the Atmakaraka.But while

> analysing

> strength of planets ,planets in infancy and old age

> are considered

> to be weak in producing full results.

> >

> > So how does this go together.Is my understanding

> of Atmakaraka

> correct.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> >

> > Chandrashekhar Sharma

> [boxdel]

> > Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 13:46

> > vedic astrology

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?

> >

> >

> > Dear Raveendra,

> > Atmakaraka is the planet with higest degrees

> having passed in

> a Rasi. Since rahu and Ketu travel counterclockwise,

> they enter the

> rasi when highest degrees and have passed highest

> degrees in Rasi

> when with least no of degrees. Therefore one has to

> deduct the

> degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no of

> degrees passed in

> a rasi . If this number is greater than that of

> other planets then

> only they can claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only

> 8 Charakarakas

> are considered it is only Rahu which is considered

> for Atmakaraka

> position and not Ketu. Some are of the view that

> Rahu only fits in

> when two planets share one of the Karakatwas being

> of identical

> degres and the Krakatwa position left blank on this

> account is taken

> by Rahu.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > raveendra yasarapu wrote:

> >

> > Dear Group and Mr.Visti,

> > Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!

> > When finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet

> with the highest

> degrees in the navamsa is taken for

> consideration.But I have seen

> some authors having reservations about this

> rule,when one of the

> nodes have the highest degrees.Could anyone please

> clarify?Chart

> appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is sagittarius my

> karakamsa?

> > Warm Regards

> > Raveendra Nath

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Hi,

 

I was reading up the follow ups regarding AK. I have

mercury as my AK placed in 8th house ( Mercury

(Retrograde) - AK - 25 Pi 50' 11.68"). Also it is

debiliated and retro. So all bad conditions together

for AK.

 

1) 8th House

2) Debiliated

3) Retrograde

4) Infancy ( 25 50' 11.68")

 

Can anyone advise or tell more about it, what could be

inferred more from it.

 

 

Kind regards,

 

Neeraj

 

 

--- raindancer_1998 <raindancer_1998 wrote:

> dear Visti,

>

> one little question: you said "Not all Ak's reach 29

> degrees, some

> less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old age,

> whilst in even its

> infancy. Planets in old age indicate that the

> learning comes very

> late."

>

> what if the AK is in an even sign, in 29 degrees? is

> that different

> in its effect?

>

> rani.

>

> vedic astrology, "Visti

> Larsen" <vishnu@l...>

> wrote:

> > Message

> > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > Dear Pradeep,

> > Theres no mention of retrogrades, only Rahu has an

> exception

> because its constantly in retro motion.

> > Generally the Retro AK, indicates a very intense

> desire.

> >

> > Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this

> is in Odd signs,

> this is old age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets

> in old age

> indicate that the learning comes very late. Infancy

> indicates that

> one isn't ready for the learning when it comes and

> hence the

> learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the

> understanding of

> Balaadhi avasthas.

> >

> > If this also becomes Gandanta or Dasa Sandhi

> position, the results

> are dangerous for health.

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

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> > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

> > vedic astrology

> > Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:51 PM

> > RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and

> old age of a

> planet.

> >

> >

> > Respected members.

> >

> > Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets

> in the range 0-

> 30 degrees within any rashi, can we say the planet

> with highest

> degree be the Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have

> retrogrades with least

> degrees,they will have preference.

> >

> > So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a

> rashi ,then

> naturally it should become the Atmakaraka.But while

> analysing

> strength of planets ,planets in infancy and old age

> are considered

> to be weak in producing full results.

> >

> > So how does this go together.Is my understanding

> of Atmakaraka

> correct.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> >

> > Chandrashekhar Sharma

> [boxdel]

> > Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 13:46

> > vedic astrology

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?

> >

> >

> > Dear Raveendra,

> > Atmakaraka is the planet with higest degrees

> having passed in

> a Rasi. Since rahu and Ketu travel counterclockwise,

> they enter the

> rasi when highest degrees and have passed highest

> degrees in Rasi

> when with least no of degrees. Therefore one has to

> deduct the

> degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no of

> degrees passed in

> a rasi . If this number is greater than that of

> other planets then

> only they can claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only

> 8 Charakarakas

> are considered it is only Rahu which is considered

> for Atmakaraka

> position and not Ketu. Some are of the view that

> Rahu only fits in

> when two planets share one of the Karakatwas being

> of identical

> degres and the Krakatwa position left blank on this

> account is taken

> by Rahu.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > raveendra yasarapu wrote:

> >

> > Dear Group and Mr.Visti,

> > Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!

> > When finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet

> with the highest

> degrees in the navamsa is taken for

> consideration.But I have seen

> some authors having reservations about this

> rule,when one of the

> nodes have the highest degrees.Could anyone please

> clarify?Chart

> appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is sagittarius my

> karakamsa?

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> > Raveendra Nath

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|Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|Dear Rani,

So AK goes in Infancy - I explained this in the mail. Look.

 

"Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old

age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets in old age indicate that the learning

comes very late. Infancy indicates that one isn't ready for the learning when

it comes and hence the learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the

understanding of Balaadhi avasthas"

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

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vedic astrology

Friday, July 11, 2003 7:04 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.

dear Visti, one little question: you said "Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some

less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old age, whilst in even its infancy.

Planets in old age indicate that the learning comes very late."what if the AK

is in an even sign, in 29 degrees? is that different in its effect?rani.--- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> Message>

|Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Pradeep,> Theres no mention of retrogrades, only Rahu

has an exception because its constantly in retro motion.> Generally the Retro

AK, indicates a very intense desire.> > Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some

less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old age, whilst in even its infancy.

Planets in old age indicate that the learning comes very late. Infancy

indicates that one isn't ready for the learning when it comes and hence the

learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the understanding of Balaadhi

avasthas.> > If this also becomes Gandanta or Dasa Sandhi position, the results

are dangerous for health.> Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message

----- > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar > To:

vedic astrology > Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:51 PM>

RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a planet.> > >

Respected members.> > Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets in the

range 0-30 degrees within any rashi, can we say the planet with highest degree

be the Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have retrogrades with least degrees,they will

have preference.> > So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a rashi ,then

naturally it should become the Atmakaraka.But while analysing strength of

planets ,planets in infancy and old age are considered to be weak in producing

full results.> > So how does this go together.Is my understanding of

Atmakaraka correct.> > Thanks> Pradeep> >

Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel] > Mittwoch, 9. Juli

2003 13:46> vedic astrology> Re:

[vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?> > > Dear Raveendra,> Atmakaraka is the

planet with higest degrees having passed in a Rasi. Since rahu and Ketu travel

counterclockwise, they enter the rasi when highest degrees and have passed

highest degrees in Rasi when with least no of degrees. Therefore one has to

deduct the degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no of degrees passed in

a rasi . If this number is greater than that of other planets then only they can

claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only 8 Charakarakas are considered it is only

Rahu which is considered for Atmakaraka position and not Ketu. Some are of the

view that Rahu only fits in when two planets share one of the Karakatwas being

of identical degres and the Krakatwa position left blank on this account is

taken by Rahu.> Chandrashekhar.> > raveendra yasarapu wrote:> >

Dear Group and Mr.Visti,> Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!> When

finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet with the highest degrees in the navamsa

is taken for consideration.But I have seen some authors having reservations

about this rule,when one of the nodes have the highest degrees.Could anyone

please clarify?Chart appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is sagittarius my

karakamsa?> Warm Regards> Raveendra Nath> > > SMS using the

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vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...>

wrote:

>

> |Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah|

> Dear Rani,

> So AK goes in Infancy - I explained this in the mail. Look.

>

> "Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this is in Odd

signs, this is old age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets in old

age indicate that the learning comes very late. Infancy indicates

that one isn't ready for the learning when it comes and hence the

learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the understanding of

Balaadhi avasthas"

>

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> -

> raindancer_1998

> vedic astrology

> Friday, July 11, 2003 7:04 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: Atmakaraka and old age of a

planet.

>

>

> dear Visti,

>

> one little question: you said "Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees,

some

> less. If this is in Odd signs, this is old age, whilst in even

its

> infancy. Planets in old age indicate that the learning comes

very

> late."

>

> what if the AK is in an even sign, in 29 degrees? is that

different

> in its effect?

>

> rani.

>

> vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

<vishnu@l...>

> wrote:

> > Message

> > |Hare Rama Krishna|

> > Dear Pradeep,

> > Theres no mention of retrogrades, only Rahu has an exception

> because its constantly in retro motion.

> > Generally the Retro AK, indicates a very intense desire.

> >

> > Not all Ak's reach 29 degrees, some less. If this is in Odd

signs,

> this is old age, whilst in even its infancy. Planets in old age

> indicate that the learning comes very late. Infancy indicates

that

> one isn't ready for the learning when it comes and hence the

> learning isn't realised fully... yet. This is the understanding

of

> Balaadhi avasthas.

> >

> > If this also becomes Gandanta or Dasa Sandhi position, the

results

> are dangerous for health.

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > -

> > Vijayadas, Pradeep Kumar

> > vedic astrology

> > Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:51 PM

> > RE: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka and old age of a

> planet.

> >

> >

> > Respected members.

> >

> > Once we deduce the degrees of respective planets in the

range 0-

> 30 degrees within any rashi, can we say the planet with highest

> degree be the Atmakaraka.Ofcourse if you have retrogrades with

least

> degrees,they will have preference.

> >

> > So if a planet has attained 29 degrees in a rashi ,then

> naturally it should become the Atmakaraka.But while analysing

> strength of planets ,planets in infancy and old age are

considered

> to be weak in producing full results.

> >

> > So how does this go together.Is my understanding of

Atmakaraka

> correct.

> >

> > Thanks

> > Pradeep

> >

> > Chandrashekhar Sharma [boxdel]

> > Mittwoch, 9. Juli 2003 13:46

> > vedic astrology

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka?

> >

> >

> > Dear Raveendra,

> > Atmakaraka is the planet with higest degrees having passed

in

> a Rasi. Since rahu and Ketu travel counterclockwise, they enter

the

> rasi when highest degrees and have passed highest degrees in

Rasi

> when with least no of degrees. Therefore one has to deduct the

> degrees of nodes from 30 degres to arrive at no of degrees

passed in

> a rasi . If this number is greater than that of other planets

then

> only they can claim Atmakaraka ownership. Since only 8

Charakarakas

> are considered it is only Rahu which is considered for

Atmakaraka

> position and not Ketu. Some are of the view that Rahu only fits

in

> when two planets share one of the Karakatwas being of identical

> degres and the Krakatwa position left blank on this account is

taken

> by Rahu.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> >

> > raveendra yasarapu wrote:

> >

> > Dear Group and Mr.Visti,

> > Om Namo Bhagavathe Vaasudevaaya!

> > When finding out the Atmakaraka,the planet with the

highest

> degrees in the navamsa is taken for consideration.But I have

seen

> some authors having reservations about this rule,when one of the

> nodes have the highest degrees.Could anyone please clarify?Chart

> appended.As Rahu is in Sagittarius,is sagittarius my karakamsa?

> > Warm Regards

> > Raveendra Nath

> >

> >

> > SMS using the Messenger; Download latest version.

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