Ketu in the 12th-Sanjay ji

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Hare Rama Krishna

 

Dear Gurudeva,

 

Regarding Ketu in the 12th, in an earlier post you had remarked that

a Jupiter event has to take place for preventing the marriage from

being destroyed.So is the birth of a child good enough OR is it

necessary for planets in the eighth to offer virodh argala?

Secondly, if there are no planets in the eigth house nor any in the

second house, how do we time such an event (i.e negative impact on

marriage)?

 

I would be grateful if you could throw some light on this

issue.Thanks a lot.

 

 

Hare Krishna

 

 

Sudharsan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

wrote:

>

>

> |brihaspatim varenyam|

> Dear Rao,

> Answers given below:

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Yours truly,

> Sanjay Rath

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> Rao Nemani [raonemani]

> Monday, June 30, 2003 4:11 AM

> Vedic Astrology Group

> [vedic astrology] D-16, Narayana Dasa Questn--->SanJay Ji

>

>

> Dear Sanjay Ji, All Guru's and Members,

>

> As you know, I have been spending a lot time in

> studying and understanding Narayana Dasa principles

> and prediction:

>

> I have found a discussion with message No : 1914 in

> our Archives, which was very very accurate on a

> native's vehicle accident analysis, of course this

> analysis was done after the event.

>

> Please refer the Message: 1914 for more details, but

> the summary is as follows:

>

> ================

> Birthdata : 4th April 1970, 5:50 pm (IST: 5:30E),

> 81e12, 16n15

> Event date/data: 5th December 1996, 6:45 pm (EST:

> 5:00W), 71w12, 42n30

> Event : Vehicular accident in which vehicle

> was totalled (i.e. insurance

> company found it cheaper to give a new car than to

> repair the car)

> ================

> [s.Rath:] This is Narasimha's chart is it not? I think the time

should be 5:42':30" IST as corrected by him after some discussions.

What is the latest Narasimha? Rao I hope you realise that a good

doctor cannot give himself medicine and you can see how Narasimha has

been working hard to rectify his chart and in the process getting to

know himself more. This is the process of moving towards self

realisation using Jyotish.

>

> Insurance company "Tatalled" means this is a severe

> accident, and fortunately the native was not injured

> at all. Thank God.

>

> If you look at the D-16 Narayana Dasa, the native was

> running :-

> * Li - Ta - Ge - Cp - Le - Sg ( D - 16)

>

> I am struggling to understand the answers to the

> following questions, and request you to please answer

> for me. Also I am sure, your answers to these

> questions will help many of the students in this

> group.

>

> 1) Why, how and what are the reasons for the native

> was safe in this accident.

> [s.Rath:] The native is born with the dharma-karmadhipati yoga

indicating the Narayana Kavaca of protection due to good karma of the

past incarnations. This yoga occurs in the eighth house in Aries in

the Rasi chart. The Narayana dasa of Aries is very protective and

Taurus antardasa is of the ninth house. So, the native himself was

completely protected. Thus, even though the car was completely

damaged, the dharma (Visnu) karma (your actions/inherited etc) yoga

caused by the good actions of a previous incarnation acted like the

Narayana Kavacha protecting him from getting any physical or even

monetary harm.

>

> 2) If the native, had approached an Astrologer, say on

> Dec 1st 1996 and the Astrologer had suggested him not

> to drive on Dec 5th, Is this accident could have been

> avoided ?

> [s.Rath:] There are no 'if's' in Jyotish. If the native was

destined then he would have gone to an astrologer who would have

warned him. If Bhagavan wanted he would have been given the warning

through other means as well like maybe a priest or nimitta as well.

Point is there was not going to be any forewarning, so it happened.

Also even if there was forewarning, the native was not knowledgable

enough to understand the messages of nature.

> This September in one of the US weekend workshops we are discussing

dreams, pallipatana and omens and shall teach the method to attune

oneself to the mesages of nature.

>

> 3) If the native had followed the Astrologer's

> suggestion and avoided the accident then, how we can

> see that in his chart: saying that, the native will

> approach an Astrologer and he will follows the

> instrcution and he will be blessed not to have the

> accident. Hope you understand my question here Sir.

> [s.Rath:] If it was in his destiny to go to the Jyotisha (Jupiter)

and get the warning, then he would have got it. However, Jupiter does

not aspect the pratyantar Narayan dasa Scorpio, so this warning was

not going to come. Even warnings are not just 'flukes'..they are the

will of Jagannath and the Jyotisha is like a telephone wire between

the native and the Lord. Why blame the telephone if the Lord does not

wish to say anything.

>

> So I respectfully request you and other gurus's and

> learned members, to please enlighten me and other

> students in this group. Because question no 2 and 3

> can be applied not only to Narayana Dasa Prediction,

> but also for any type of pridictions.

> [s.Rath:] Now you see the importance of the Narayana dasa of the

Rasi chart. See how the protection of Vishnu comes during periods of

the ninth lord or ninth house from lagna, AL etc. See how the warning

messages come through Jupiter the seer/representatives of the Lord.

>

> Thank you very much for educating me on this subject

> in advance.

>

> Regards

> Rao

>

> P.S: In this posting, I have attached the native's

> chart, which I have forgot in my earlier posting and I

> am sorry for that.

> [s.Rath:] Other points to be noted. The Ketu in 12th house is very

bad as it indicates some troubles in marriage and other mistakes due

to rash /quick movement. Now Jaimini teaches that the evil of planets

in the 12th can be obstructed by the 8th house and vice versa. This

is the only rider on the Argala principle. Thus, the evil of Ketu in

the 12th house is fully obstructed by the four planets in the 8th

house as well as by Jupiter who shall undoubtedly put up a strong

fight against Ketu being in 2nd house (2 -12 house argala & vorodha

principle). See the Rasi ND pratyantardasa when the Accident occured -

it was scorpio ..see Ketu the Lord of Scorpio doing his bit to

damage the Arudha. Malefic ownership of the Arudha is not good for

the Arudha - what is bad is bad.

>

> Coming to the other issue about the marriage and Ketu in the 12th

house. Since the papa of Ketu in the 12th house is obstructed by

Jupiter, count from Ketu to Jupiter - first 3 years marriage shall be

happy and stable. Now count from Jupiter to Moon - next five years

marriage shall suffer serious eclipse. Now count from Moon to the 8th

house yoga which totally obstructs the 12th house Ketu -next 3 years

marriage will stabilise. This is a simple village method of using the

cakra by counting 1 year per sign like the muntha.