Guest guest Posted June 22, 2003 Report Share Posted June 22, 2003 Dear friends, Like there is Ista Devata/Palan Devata/DharmaDevata etc.,is there anything like these to decide the deity/Rishi one should pray to get fast results in Jyotish studies? This question has come up in my mind due to Sudarshan Ji where he has quoted a reply by Gurudev"He wrote that I must surrender my adhikara to Sri Jagannatha and only then will I be able to see the chart and even apply the right rules."I have met Sudarshan Ji and I know he is devotee of Lord Krishna.It may be for that reason Gurudev told him to surrender himself completely to Sri Jagannatha. Visti Ji I understand prays to Ved Vyasa. Narasimha Ji I think prays to Satynarayan for Jyotish knowledge.And I know all of them are making fast progress in Jyotish. With regards, Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 22, 2003 Report Share Posted June 22, 2003 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Jagmeet, Namaste. You had mentioned Ishta,Dharma & Palana devatha in your mail. You had excluded Guru Devatha(BK). Surrendering yourself to the Lord is like offering(poorna ahuthi) in the Holy fire. It is to identify your role in the divine plan. How to identify? You need a Guru. Who is your Guru? Your Brathru Karaka is your Guru. When do you find him? When Guru transits/aspects(Rasi dristi) your Mantra pada(A5) you can find your Guru. What does the Guru do? He helps you in raising your level of consciousness(opens up your third eye) and enables you to see through the battlefield of Karma and thereby helping people like dridrirashtra(blind) to know what exactly is happening. Study of Jyotisha cannot be equated with other studies as this involves the study of the person who is actually studying! It is consciousness based education. Sat Sree Akaal. Don't you feel Gurudev(Akaal) who has transcended time and space can only help you in teaching about Kaal! Best wishes, Astrologically yours, psramanrayanan Food fit for Kings! Now available online. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Namaste Shri Ramanarayanan, Using simple words, you have expressed the special status of a Guru nicely. But one doubt remains: I understand Jagmeet was asking about how to identify the appropriate deity so that worship results in a faster progressing along the path of Jyotish. Is there any principle for determining or are you trying to say that the Guru shall reveal the "special" knowledge at the appropriate time? On a personal note, During Guru Poornima of May, I felt a great anguish or wanting of a Guru and wrote to the paramaguru in the hope of being blessed with a Guru who would guide me in my Jyotish studies. My prayers, needless to say, were answered. regards Hari "P.S. RAMANARAYANAN" wrote: When Guru transits/aspects(Rasi dristi) your Mantra pada(A5) you can find your Guru. What does the Guru do? He helps you in raising your level of consciousness(opens up your third eye) and enables you to see through the battlefield of Karma and thereby helping people like dridrirashtra(blind) to know what exactly is happening. Study of Jyotisha cannot be equated with other studies as this involves the study of the person who is actually studying! It is consciousness based education. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Hari, Worship the Guru devata. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - onlyhari vedic astrology Monday, June 23, 2003 11:03 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Deity/Mantra for Jyotish Knowledge ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Namaste Shri Ramanarayanan,Using simple words, you have expressed the special status of a Guru nicely. But one doubt remains: I understand Jagmeet was asking about how to identify the appropriate deity so that worship results in a faster progressing along the path of Jyotish. Is there any principle for determining or are you trying to say that the Guru shall reveal the "special" knowledge at the appropriate time?On a personal note, During Guru Poornima of May, I felt a great anguish or wanting of a Guru and wrote to the paramaguru in the hope of being blessed with a Guru who would guide me in my Jyotish studies. My prayers, needless to say, were answered.regardsHari"P.S. RAMANARAYANAN" wrote:When Guru transits/aspects(Rasi dristi) your Mantra pada(A5) you can find your Guru. What does the Guru do? He helps you in raising your level of consciousness(opens up your third eye) and enables you to see through the battlefield of Karma and thereby helping people like dridrirashtra(blind) to know what exactly is happening. Study of Jyotisha cannot be equated with other studies as this involves the study of the person who is actually studying! It is consciousness based education. Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Visti, Can you shed more light on the Guru Devata? Sorry, Guru Poornima should read as Guru Pushyami. regards Hari vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krishna| > Dear Hari, > Worship the Guru devata. > Best wishes > Visti > --- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Hari, If you had read VRA by Sanjay Rath, you would find that the Guru devata is the Bhratri Karaka in Navamsa. See planets joining it, if none then worship the Bhratri Karaka itself. When this is done, the knowledge flows. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - onlyhari vedic astrology Monday, June 23, 2003 12:20 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Deity/Mantra for Jyotish Knowledge ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Visti,Can you shed more light on the Guru Devata? Sorry, Guru Poornima should read as Guru Pushyami.regardsHari--- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Hari,> Worship the Guru devata.> Best wishes> Visti> ---Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Hari, Bhratru karaka is the Guru devatha. The ruling deity of the planet which has become the Brathru karaka is the Guru devatha. For eg. Sun represents Lord Siva, Guru represents Sriman Narayana. The concept of Brahtru karaka can be understood from the Epic Ramayana. For all the three brothers Lakshmana, Bharatha and Satrughna Lord Rama is the Guru. Bharatha taking the word and carrying the paduka of Rama (on his head) returned to the country. The country was ruled by Bharatha's Guru bhakthi. Till such time one meets his Guru in sthoola form he can worship the deity ruling the planet which is the Brathru Karaka in his chart with firm faith and intense devotion. The urge to meet one's Guru/Lord should be there. Is not Guru the presiding deity for the star Pushyami! Quick and steady progress in Jyotish vidya is possible only through the blessings of BK(Guru/Guru devatha). Best wishes, Astrologically yours, psramanrayanan Food fit for Kings! Now available online. Check it out! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Dear Shri Ramanarayanan Ji,Hari Ji and Visti Ji, Your replies were very helpful.The most important Devata I had completely missed in my e-mail. I do the Panch Devata Puja as suggested by Gurudev in VRA(Ganesh,Surya,Vishnu,Chandi and Shiv Ji). I have Sat as BK(I am also pretty considerate of my younger brothers)which is in Kumbha with Sun and Rahu in 6th house in Navamsa. Transit Guru will be aspecting my Mantra Pada by Rashi dristi after Aug 2003 so hopefully Guru will find me. But my query still remains,Are there diffrent aspects of Guru devata one worships for Diksha Guru and Siksha Guru or is it one and the same? With regards, Jagmeet Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Jagmeet, The Guru Devata is a deity, forget the type of initiation, (s)he has been there since you were born! You were allready initiated then. This Guru will teach you about the entire universe.. you must just listen. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - jagmeet dheendsa vedic astrology Monday, June 23, 2003 4:38 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Deity/Mantra for Jyotish Knowledge Dear Shri Ramanarayanan Ji,Hari Ji and Visti Ji, Your replies were very helpful.The most important Devata I had completely missed in my e-mail. I do the Panch Devata Puja as suggested by Gurudev in VRA(Ganesh,Surya,Vishnu,Chandi and Shiv Ji). I have Sat as BK(I am also pretty considerate of my younger brothers)which is in Kumbha with Sun and Rahu in 6th house in Navamsa. Transit Guru will be aspecting my Mantra Pada by Rashi dristi after Aug 2003 so hopefully Guru will find me. But my query still remains,Are there diffrent aspects of Guru devata one worships for Diksha Guru and Siksha Guru or is it one and the same? With regards, Jagmeet Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Jagmeet, Taking Kumbha as a feminine sign your Guru may be a devotee of Mother Kali. Guru may be well versed in Mantras(Sun) and Tantras(Rahu) and may have some siddhis too. Guru helps you in reaching your Ishta and getting you the needed siksha. Best wishes, Astologically yours, psramanrayanan Are you a geek? Are you a techno freak? Welcome home! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Ramanarayan, Nice analogy. I have been taught something different; the Bhratri Karaka is the 3rd among the Chara Karakas, and is linked to the drekkana (d-3) varga, where we see the RISHI! These Rishi's are of 3 Gunas, and their abode is Pisces.. once they decide to become Guru's, they reside in Sag (natural 9th) , the 10th (work) from Pisces. Hence to see the native's knowledge that denotes a person as a Rishi or seer, we see the Siddhamsa, which is a varga of the 12th house (Pisces is natural 12th). Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - P.S. RAMANARAYANAN vedic astrology Monday, June 23, 2003 4:18 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Deity/Mantra for Jyotish Knowledge SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Hari, Bhratru karaka is the Guru devatha. The ruling deity of the planet which has become the Brathru karaka is the Guru devatha. For eg. Sun represents Lord Siva, Guru represents Sriman Narayana. The concept of Brahtru karaka can be understood from the Epic Ramayana. For all the three brothers Lakshmana, Bharatha and Satrughna Lord Rama is the Guru. Bharatha taking the word and carrying the paduka of Rama (on his head) returned to the country. The country was ruled by Bharatha's Guru bhakthi. Till such time one meets his Guru in sthoola form he can worship the deity ruling the planet which is the Brathru Karaka in his chart with firm faith and intense devotion. The urge to meet one's Guru/Lord should be there. Is not Guru the presiding deity for the star Pushyami! Quick and steady progress in Jyotish vidya is possible only through the blessings of BK(Guru/Guru devatha). Best wishes, Astrologically yours, psramanrayanan Food fit for Kings! Now available online. Check it out! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Dear Visti Ji, In related to this thread, My understanding was: >From D-20 Lagna, 2nd is for Kula Devata, 4th Grama Devata, 5th Bhakti Marga, 9th for Guru/japa, 12th for Dhyana etc, Please clarify whether the above approach is correct to find Guru as well. Regards Rao vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krishna| > Dear Ramanarayan, > Nice analogy. > I have been taught something different; the Bhratri Karaka is the 3rd among the Chara Karakas, and is linked to the drekkana (d-3) varga, where we see the RISHI! > These Rishi's are of 3 Gunas, and their abode is Pisces.. once they decide to become Guru's, they reside in Sag (natural 9th) , the 10th (work) from Pisces. > Hence to see the native's knowledge that denotes a person as a Rishi or seer, we see the Siddhamsa, which is a varga of the 12th house (Pisces is natural 12th). > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > - > P.S. RAMANARAYANAN > vedic astrology > Monday, June 23, 2003 4:18 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Deity/Mantra for Jyotish Knowledge > > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > Dear Hari, > > Bhratru karaka is the Guru devatha. The ruling deity of the planet which has become the Brathru karaka is the Guru devatha. For eg. Sun represents Lord Siva, Guru represents Sriman Narayana. The concept of Brahtru karaka can be understood from the Epic Ramayana. For all the three brothers Lakshmana, Bharatha and Satrughna Lord Rama is the Guru. Bharatha taking the word and carrying the paduka of Rama (on his head) returned to the country. The country was ruled by Bharatha's Guru bhakthi. > > Till such time one meets his Guru in sthoola form he can worship the deity ruling the planet which is the Brathru Karaka in his chart with firm faith and intense devotion. The urge to meet one's Guru/Lord should be there. > > Is not Guru the presiding deity for the star Pushyami! Quick and steady progress in Jyotish vidya is possible only through the blessings of BK(Guru/Guru devatha). > > Best wishes, > > Astrologically yours, > > psramanrayanan > > > > -- ---------- > Food fit for Kings! Now available online. Check it out! > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Visti, Nice to receive your response! BK is third in the row of chara karakas. In general 9th house represents Guru and 7th house represents desire. Third house therefore brings out the intention/desire of the Guru to teach being 7th from 9th house. Also 7th is the door step of interaction which means 9th is the Guru's house while 3rd is Gurudwara!(Dronacharya was no doubt well versed in the art of archery - 3rd house also represent parakrama). Ninth house of the kaalapurusha is Dhanu and is ruled by Guru. Fourth from the 9th house is the 12th house Pisces which indicates that Pisces is the house/abode of Gurus. i think Deva Guru(Brihaspathi) peeta is in Karka , Asura Guru(Venus) peeta is in Pisces while Manushya Guru(Kethu) peetha is in Dhanur kshetra. You may know better. Can you throw more light on how to link up BK with D-3 chart please? Best wishes, Astrologically yours, psramanrayanan Attention NRIs! Send money home in a jiffy. Find out how here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 dear Visti & Gurus Is there any rules is to be considered if BK has involved in parivartana with other planet.For example BK (Budha) in taurus and Sukra in Gemini. in D9.Should I consider to worship Budha or Sukra? Sorry if I asked something irrational.It's my lack of understanding. Thanks & Regards Mofie Visti Larsen wrote: |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Hari, If you had read VRA by Sanjay Rath, you would find that the Guru devata is the Bhratri Karaka in Navamsa. See planets joining it, if none then worship the Bhratri Karaka itself. When this is done, the knowledge flows. Best wishes Visti --- Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - onlyhari vedic astrology Monday, June 23, 2003 12:20 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Deity/Mantra for Jyotish Knowledge ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Visti, Can you shed more light on the Guru Devata? Sorry, Guru Poornima should read as Guru Pushyami. regards Hari vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krishna| > Dear Hari, > Worship the Guru devata. > Best wishes > Visti > --- . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 dear Visti and Gurus, Is there any special consideration to be given if BK involved in parivartana with other planet. For example BK (Budha) in taurus and Sukra in gemini in D9.Should I worship Budha or Sukra? Sorry if I asked a irrational question.I'ts due to lack of my knowledge. Thanks and Regards Mofie Visti Larsen wrote: |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Hari, If you had read VRA by Sanjay Rath, you would find that the Guru devata is the Bhratri Karaka in Navamsa. See planets joining it, if none then worship the Bhratri Karaka itself. When this is done, the knowledge flows. Best wishes Visti --- Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - onlyhari vedic astrology Monday, June 23, 2003 12:20 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Deity/Mantra for Jyotish Knowledge ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Visti, Can you shed more light on the Guru Devata? Sorry, Guru Poornima should read as Guru Pushyami. regards Hari vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krishna| > Dear Hari, > Worship the Guru devata. > Best wishes > Visti > --- . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Mofie, The Yoga will show how the person comes, not whether to worship them or the bringer of the results. Since this happens in your navamsa, an event related to marriage/love, brings the Guru Devata. But worship Buddha, Sukra will just bring Buddha. Theres alot of basics in these words. Don't hesitate to ask. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Mofie Augustine vedic astrology Wednesday, June 25, 2003 3:17 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Deity/Mantra for Jyotish Knowledge dear Visti & GurusIs there any rules is to be considered if BK has involved in parivartana with otherplanet.For example BK (Budha) in taurus and Sukra in Gemini. in D9.Should I consider toworship Budha or Sukra?Sorry if I asked something irrational.It's my lack of understanding.Thanks & RegardsMofieVisti Larsen wrote: |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Hari, If you had read VRA by Sanjay Rath, you would find that the Guru devata is the Bhratri Karaka in Navamsa. See planets joining it, if none then worship the Bhratri Karaka itself. When this is done, the knowledge flows. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - onlyhari vedic astrology Monday, June 23, 2003 12:20 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Deity/Mantra for Jyotish Knowledge ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Visti,Can you shed more light on the Guru Devata? Sorry, Guru Poornima should read as Guru Pushyami.regardsHari--- In vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> |Hare Rama Krishna|> Dear Hari,> Worship the Guru devata.> Best wishes> Visti> ---Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-......... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 25, 2003 Report Share Posted June 25, 2003 dear Visti and Gurus, Is there any special consideration to be given if BK involved in parivartana with other planet. For example BK (Budha) in taurus and Sukra in gemini in D9.Should I worship Budha or Sukra? Sorry if I asked a irrational question.I'ts due to lack of my knowledge. Thanks and Regards Mofie Visti Larsen wrote: |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Hari, If you had read VRA by Sanjay Rath, you would find that the Guru devata is the Bhratri Karaka in Navamsa. See planets joining it, if none then worship the Bhratri Karaka itself. When this is done, the knowledge flows. Best wishes Visti --- Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - onlyhari vedic astrology Monday, June 23, 2003 12:20 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Deity/Mantra for Jyotish Knowledge ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Visti, Can you shed more light on the Guru Devata? Sorry, Guru Poornima should read as Guru Pushyami. regards Hari vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote: > |Hare Rama Krishna| > Dear Hari, > Worship the Guru devata. > Best wishes > Visti > --- . Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 Thanks Visti, Wow! I never thought of this. So in this manner my Guru Devata will also bring me my soul mate or the love of my life. Really nice to hear this. :-) But one more thing that I want to clarify, Is there anything on my part that I can do now to bring my Guru Devata? Regards Mofie Augustine Visti Larsen wrote: |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Mofie, The Yoga will show how the person comes, not whether to worship them or the bringer of the results. Since this happens in your navamsa, an event related to marriage/love, brings the Guru Devata. But worship Buddha, Sukra will just bring Buddha. Theres alot of basics in these words. Don't hesitate to ask. Best wishes Visti --- Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 26, 2003 Report Share Posted June 26, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Mofie, Worship the Guru! Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Rahu_Kethu vedic astrology Thursday, June 26, 2003 9:54 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Deity/Mantra for Jyotish Knowledge Thanks Visti,Wow! I never thought of this. So in this manner my Guru Devata will alsobring me my soul mate or the love of my life. Really nice to hear this. :-)But one more thing that I want to clarify, Is there anything on my part that I can do nowto bring my Guru Devata? RegardsMofie AugustineVisti Larsen wrote: |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Mofie, The Yoga will show how the person comes, not whether to worship them or the bringer of the results. Since this happens in your navamsa, an event related to marriage/love, brings the Guru Devata. But worship Buddha, Sukra will just bring Buddha. Theres alot of basics in these words. Don't hesitate to ask. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Om Namo Narayanaya Dear PSRamanrayanan: Please confirme me if I understood correctly what you said in your message days ago: Since my Bhratru Karaka in my Rasi Chart is Mercury, does this mean that I need to worship the Deity represented by Budha since I still didn´t find a true Jyotisha Guru and am eager to find him when the Lord let that to happen? In that case, could you please be so kind to tell me the mantra I need to use for worshipping Buddha? I downloaded time ago the one that is in Guru Narasimha Rao´s site but though I can listen to it, I´m unable to understand what he is pronounciating. Thanks a lot in advance, Best regards, Mariano SUBHAMASTU SARVAM YAGATAM > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > Dear Hari, > > Bhratru karaka is the Guru devatha. The ruling deity of the planet which has become the Brathru karaka is the Guru devatha. For eg. Sun represents Lord Siva, Guru represents Sriman Narayana. The concept of Brahtru karaka can be understood from the Epic Ramayana. For all the three brothers Lakshmana, Bharatha and Satrughna Lord Rama is the Guru. Bharatha taking the word and carrying the paduka of Rama (on his head) returned to the country. The country was ruled by Bharatha's Guru bhakthi. > > Till such time one meets his Guru in sthoola form he can worship the deity ruling the planet which is the Brathru Karaka in his chart with firm faith and intense devotion. The urge to meet one's Guru/Lord should be there. > > Is not Guru the presiding deity for the star Pushyami! Quick and steady progress in Jyotish vidya is possible only through the blessings of BK(Guru/Guru devatha). > > Best wishes, > > Astrologically yours, > > psramanrayanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Om sai ram, dear sir, What happens if guru is neecha in capricorn and is conj. with venus in the D-9this is also 12th from karakamsha ( i hope I got the spelling rrect)?I'm a little slow on the uptake when these twists come in to play. this particular combo. happens to be mine. The D-9 lagna is pisces. Thanks and best regards, anu. P.S. RAMANARAYANAN vedic astrology Monday, June 23, 2003 8:21 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Deity/Mantra for Jyotish Knowledge SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Jagmeet, Namaste. You had mentioned Ishta,Dharma & Palana devatha in your mail. You had excluded Guru Devatha(BK). Surrendering yourself to the Lord is like offering(poorna ahuthi) in the Holy fire. It is to identify your role in the divine plan. How to identify? You need a Guru. Who is your Guru? Your Brathru Karaka is your Guru. When do you find him? When Guru transits/aspects(Rasi dristi) your Mantra pada(A5) you can find your Guru. What does the Guru do? He helps you in raising your level of consciousness(opens up your third eye) and enables you to see through the battlefield of Karma and thereby helping people like dridrirashtra(blind) to know what exactly is happening. Study of Jyotisha cannot be equated with other studies as this involves the study of the person who is actually studying! It is consciousness based education. Sat Sree Akaal. Don't you feel Gurudev(Akaal) who has transcended time and space can only help you in teaching about Kaal! Best wishes, Astrologically yours, psramanrayanan Food fit for Kings! Now available online. Check it out! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Mariano, Namaste. The navamsa sign of the bhratrukaraka itself is seen for the Guru Devatha or Guru. You said your BK is Buda. Chant "HARE RAMAKRISHNA". Best wishes, Astrologically yours, psramanrayanan Attention NRIs! Send money home in a jiffy. Find out how here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Anu, You said that your Guru and Venus are placed in 12th in Makara to your karakamsha which means Kumbha is your karakamsha and Meena is your Swamsa. Worship LakshmiNarayana. Best wishes, Astrologically yours, psramanrayanan Gift yourself a holiday. Treat your family like royalty. You only live once! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 Om Namaha Shivayah! Dear PSRamanrayanan: Thanks a lot for your inmediate reply but I must confess you that now I´m a bit confussed since in your new message you´ve added for the Guru Devatha´s matter the consideration of the bhratrukaraka´s navamsa Sign. As I told you before my bhratrukaraka in my Rasi Chart is Mercury, but its navamsa sign is Simha. So... If I´m understanding your last message correctly, to know my Guru Devatha I need to worship Simha´s Deity and not Mercury´s one. In that case, could you please give me some more clarification about to whom Deity I need to worship and what´s the correct mantra to pronounce? If you remember any classic textbook, like BPHS or Jataka Parijata or Saravali or Brihat Jataka or any other of that kind where I can study more deeply about the Guru Devatha´s matter, I´ll be very thanked for that guidance. God bless you, Mariano Om Tat Sat > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT > > AUM GURUBYO NAMAH > > Dear Mariano, > > Namaste. The navamsa sign of the bhratrukaraka itself is seen for the Guru Devatha or Guru. You said your BK is Buda. Chant "HARE RAMAKRISHNA". > > Best wishes, > > Astrologically yours, > > psramanrayanan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 28, 2003 Report Share Posted June 28, 2003 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUBYO NAMAH Dear Mariano, Buda/Mercury is your Bhrathrukaraka. In general one of the avatars of Vishnu is the deity ruling Buda. All the deities viz., Ishta, palana, Dharma and Guru are all identified from Navamsa only. For Ishta devatha you will have to look for the planet placed/having stronger influence in/over the 12th to karakamsa , for Palana devatha you will have to look for the planet placed/having stronger influence in/over the 6th from Amatyakaraka and for Dharma devatha you will have to look for the strongest planetary influence on the 9th house from Karakamsa.For Guru devatha look for the placement of the Bhratrukaraka in the Navamsa. This means that the Bhrathrukaraka itself is the Guru Devatha. In your case Budha is placed in Simha in Navamsa. Simha is a fixed sign. Your Guru may be the one who is an ardent devotee of Krishna. If Budha had positioned itself in movable/dual signs it gives a hint that the Guru is the one who might be an ardent devotee of any other avatar of Lord Vishnu. Since both Rama and Krishna are the avatars of Lord Vishnu and you had not mentioned the specific sign in Navamsa i had asked you to chant "HARE RAMA KRISHNA". Going by the specific sign (Simha - fixed) you may chant "OM KRISHNA GURU". Chanting "HARE RAMAKRISHNA" opens up the third eye necessary for understanding the Jyotisha sutras. All your confusion will end up when Guru transits/aspects your Mantrapada(A5). You can refer to the books "Vedic Remedies in Astrology" by Sanjay Rath and Jaimini's Upadesa Sutras translated by Sanjay Rath. Best wishes, Astrologically yours, psramanrayanan Attention NRIs! Send money home in a jiffy. Find out how here. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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