Narayana Dasa, Question ----> To Sanjay Ji

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Dear Guru Ji,

 

Namaste,

 

Please pardon me, if I have posted this message more

than once, as my Internet connection is not stable

today and giving a little trouble and hopefully this

message will reach the group.

 

I have seen few posting from our members in the past,

saying that "Narayan Dasa is still an experimental

method".

 

I have read your book Narayana Dasa few times, and

also Narasimha Ji's Book's chapter on "Narayana Dasa"

few times and understood the basics and claculation of

the Narayana Dasa.

 

With my beginner's/little knowledge, I have found the

Narayana Dasa is very effective and may not be called

as an experimental, except the impact will be seen if

the Birth time is not accurate, for which any

system/technique will fail if the native' birth time

is not accurate.

 

It is taking me a long time to do the calculations for

each chart for vairous Divsional Narayana Dasa's so I

could not go far in my learning for the past few days.

 

 

I am hoping to get the JHL ver 5.0 commercial version

from Narasimha Ji in next few days and I want to spend

some time seriously on "Narayana Dasa" for various

aspects, hence may I request you to please clarify

me/us it is not an experimental dasa scheme available

to us.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Regards

Rao

 

 

 

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Dear Rao,

The free verson of JHL also has the Narayan Dasa

calculations but only for D1 chart.

Regards

Ramesh

--- Rao Nemani <raonemani wrote:

> Dear Guru Ji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> I have seen few posting from our members, saying

> that

> "Narayan Dasa is still an experimental method".

>

> I have read your book Narayana Dasa few times, and

> also Narasimha Ji's Book's chapter on "Narayana

> Dasa"

> few times and understood the basics and claculation

> of

> the Narayana Dasa.

>

> With my beginner's/little knowledge, I have found

> the

> Narayana Dasa is very effective and may not be

> called

> as experimental, except the impact will be seen if

> the

> Birth time is not accurate, for which any

> system/technique will fail if the native' birth time

> is not accurate.

>

> It is taking me a long time to do the calculations

> for

> each chart for vairous Divsional Narayana Dasa's so

> I

> could not far in my learning for the past few days.

>

>

> I am hoping to get the JHL ver 5.0 commercial

> version

> from Narasimha Ji in next few days and I want to

> spend

> some time seriously on "Narayana Dasa" for various

> aspects, hence may I request you to please clarify

> me

> it is not an experimental dasa scheme available to

> us.

>

> Thanks for your help in advance.

>

> Regards

> Rao

>

>

>

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Dear Rao,

Well if I am one of the members who said that its an experimental

system, then let me please clarify my position. What I really meant

was that analysis of Narayana dasa for Varga (Divisional charts)

chakras is subject to lot of experimentation. The real reason being

that Lagna in Divisional Charts changes frequently due to changes in

time of birth. So if you compute D-10 N-dasa, then you may have to do

few different computations, due to changing birth times, so that

real life events synchronize with calculations. That's what I really

meant. (Because birth time is accurate only in recent times.)

 

 

Narayana Dasa of Rashi chart is perefectly OK and not subject to such

deeper experimentations(when compared to D-charts). Also the

predictions obtained from Narayana Dasa of Rashi chart and

Vimshottari Dasha can be combined to get the complete picture. Hope

this statement is also correct, as per my understanding.

 

 

If you see things from experimentation point of view, then there are

several variations of Vimshottari dasas also depending upon different

scenarios and different natives.

 

Sorry for the confusion, if any, created by me. I will be very

careful in future(translating thoughts into English Language can

cause a MattiBharam Yoga sometimes. I am myself so confused due to

so many dasa systems and interpretations, which apply simultaneously

at any time.)

 

Regards

Rajesh

 

 

vedic astrology, Rao Nemani <raonemani>

wrote:

> Dear Guru Ji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> Please pardon me, if I have posted this message more

> than once, as my Internet connection is not stable

> today and giving a little trouble and hopefully this

> message will reach the group.

>

> I have seen few posting from our members in the past,

> saying that "Narayan Dasa is still an experimental

> method".

>

> I have read your book Narayana Dasa few times, and

> also Narasimha Ji's Book's chapter on "Narayana Dasa"

> few times and understood the basics and claculation of

> the Narayana Dasa.

>

> With my beginner's/little knowledge, I have found the

> Narayana Dasa is very effective and may not be called

> as an experimental, except the impact will be seen if

> the Birth time is not accurate, for which any

> system/technique will fail if the native' birth time

> is not accurate.

>

> It is taking me a long time to do the calculations for

> each chart for vairous Divsional Narayana Dasa's so I

> could not go far in my learning for the past few days.

>

>

> I am hoping to get the JHL ver 5.0 commercial version

> from Narasimha Ji in next few days and I want to spend

> some time seriously on "Narayana Dasa" for various

> aspects, hence may I request you to please clarify

> me/us it is not an experimental dasa scheme available

> to us.

>

> Thanks for your help in advance.

>

> Regards

> Rao

>

>

>

> SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

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Dear Rajesh,

 

Thanks for the reply. Yes you are correct. That is why I have

mentioned in my original post about the importance of the birth time

accuracy for N-Dasa, for that matter any system/scheme/techique.

 

> With my beginner's/little knowledge, I have found the

> Narayana Dasa is very effective and may not be called

> as an experimental, except the impact will be seen if

> the Birth time is not accurate, for which any

> system/technique will fail if the native' birth time

> is not accurate.

 

So, if the birth time is accurate, then can I say that,

the "Narayana Dasa" should be effective and will not be

an "Experimental", that is what I am trying to understand, hence

requested Sanjay Ji's opinion.

 

Regards

Rao

 

 

vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria"

<rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> Dear Rao,

> Well if I am one of the members who said that its an experimental

> system, then let me please clarify my position. What I really

meant

> was that analysis of Narayana dasa for Varga (Divisional charts)

> chakras is subject to lot of experimentation. The real reason

being

> that Lagna in Divisional Charts changes frequently due to changes

in

> time of birth. So if you compute D-10 N-dasa, then you may have to

do

> few different computations, due to changing birth times, so that

> real life events synchronize with calculations. That's what I

really

> meant. (Because birth time is accurate only in recent times.)

>

>

> Narayana Dasa of Rashi chart is perefectly OK and not subject to

such

> deeper experimentations(when compared to D-charts). Also the

> predictions obtained from Narayana Dasa of Rashi chart and

> Vimshottari Dasha can be combined to get the complete picture.

Hope

> this statement is also correct, as per my understanding.

>

>

> If you see things from experimentation point of view, then there

are

> several variations of Vimshottari dasas also depending upon

different

> scenarios and different natives.

>

> Sorry for the confusion, if any, created by me. I will be very

> careful in future(translating thoughts into English Language can

> cause a MattiBharam Yoga sometimes. I am myself so confused due

to

> so many dasa systems and interpretations, which apply

simultaneously

> at any time.)

>

> Regards

> Rajesh

>

>

> vedic astrology, Rao Nemani

<raonemani>

> wrote:

> > Dear Guru Ji,

> >

> > Namaste,

> >

> > Please pardon me, if I have posted this message more

> > than once, as my Internet connection is not stable

> > today and giving a little trouble and hopefully this

> > message will reach the group.

> >

> > I have seen few posting from our members in the past,

> > saying that "Narayan Dasa is still an experimental

> > method".

> >

> > I have read your book Narayana Dasa few times, and

> > also Narasimha Ji's Book's chapter on "Narayana Dasa"

> > few times and understood the basics and claculation of

> > the Narayana Dasa.

> >

> > With my beginner's/little knowledge, I have found the

> > Narayana Dasa is very effective and may not be called

> > as an experimental, except the impact will be seen if

> > the Birth time is not accurate, for which any

> > system/technique will fail if the native' birth time

> > is not accurate.

> >

> > It is taking me a long time to do the calculations for

> > each chart for vairous Divsional Narayana Dasa's so I

> > could not go far in my learning for the past few days.

> >

> >

> > I am hoping to get the JHL ver 5.0 commercial version

> > from Narasimha Ji in next few days and I want to spend

> > some time seriously on "Narayana Dasa" for various

> > aspects, hence may I request you to please clarify

> > me/us it is not an experimental dasa scheme available

> > to us.

> >

> > Thanks for your help in advance.

> >

> > Regards

> > Rao

> >

> >

> >

> > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!

> > http://sbc.

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Dear Guru Ji,

 

Namaste,

 

Thank you for the reply and kind words.

I have no doubt about the "Narayana Dasa" now.

 

With my Guru Ji and my mother Mahalakshmi's blessings, one day I want

to become a good Jyotishi and help/assist poeple who are in need.

 

Regards

Rao

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

wrote:

>

>

> |brihaspatim varenyam|

> Dear Rao,

> You will become a good Jyotishi. The readings from all dasas can

fail, but never Narayana dasa. This is the king of the dasas. He who

understands this dasa well does not need anything else. But

understanding Narayana is not so easy. Again as you said, this is

very stable and easy to use and will nto vary with time errors.

> I do not know who has made that statement about Narayana dasa, but

who so ever has said that, it grossly lying or is just foolish. I

have revealed a lot, and if you read carefully you will know how to

use it. Most important, a sincere bow to Narayana is good for

learning this.

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Yours truly,

> Sanjay Rath

> ---------------------------

> H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com

> ---------------------------

>

> Rao Nemani [raonemani]

> Sunday, June 22, 2003 9:01 PM

> Vedic Astrology Group

> [vedic astrology] Narayana Dasa, Question ----> To Sanjay

Ji

>

>

> Dear Guru Ji,

>

> Namaste,

>

> Please pardon me, if I have posted this message more

> than once, as my Internet connection is not stable

> today and giving a little trouble and hopefully this

> message will reach the group.

>

> I have seen few posting from our members in the past,

> saying that "Narayan Dasa is still an experimental

> method".

>

> I have read your book Narayana Dasa few times, and

> also Narasimha Ji's Book's chapter on "Narayana Dasa"

> few times and understood the basics and claculation of

> the Narayana Dasa.

>

> With my beginner's/little knowledge, I have found the

> Narayana Dasa is very effective and may not be called

> as an experimental, except the impact will be seen if

> the Birth time is not accurate, for which any

> system/technique will fail if the native' birth time

> is not accurate.

>

> It is taking me a long time to do the calculations for

> each chart for vairous Divsional Narayana Dasa's so I

> could not go far in my learning for the past few days.

>

>

> I am hoping to get the JHL ver 5.0 commercial version

> from Narasimha Ji in next few days and I want to spend

> some time seriously on "Narayana Dasa" for various

> aspects, hence may I request you to please clarify

> me/us it is not an experimental dasa scheme available

> to us.

>

> Thanks for your help in advance.

>

> Regards

> Rao

>

>

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Respected Sanjayji

 

Pranams

 

At this juncture could I ask this question : In case of Saturn or Ketu in the

dasa seed the direction of counting is changed . Could you please tell me how

do we make a judgement if both are present. I am attaching a chart which has

saturn and Ketu together in dasa seed.

 

Rajeev JunejaTelefax :91-11-26124170Email : rjuneja (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

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Sanjay Rath

vedic astrology

Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:32 AM

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Dasa, Question ----> To Sanjay Ji

 

 

|brihaspatim varenyam|

No Rajesh, thats not correct. Even if the divisional chart lagna changes with

changes in birth time, the Varga Narayana Dasa will not change..the world will

have to follow Narayana and not vice versa. Change in Varga Narayana dasa

occurs only when there is a change in Rasi lagna. The seed that generates the

Varga Narayana Dasa is the lord of the Karya Bhava in the Rasi chart and this

does not change unless Lagna changes in rasi chart.

I know and agree that initially the knowledge of the dasa systems, so many of

them can be difficult and that is why I am always urging people to first master

Vimsottari and Narayana dasa before venturing into others. But then without

these dasas we really won't know what is happening.

Oh yes, language can be a great barrier.

No offences and I appreciate your support to Jyotish and your sincerity in learning.

~ om tat sat ~

Yours truly,

Sanjay Rath

 

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Jaya Jagannatha

Dear Rajeev,

3 planets in the ascendant, seed dasa begins from Cp. Cp is EVEN footed

and you are supposed to go backwards. But with with Saturn or Ketu in it,

dasas will go the opposite. (you have both and the direction also changes

with either planet in it). Hence Cp, Aq, Pi and so on. Simple isn't it?

Why don't you go to www..org

and purchase both the books:

1) Vedic Astrology : An Integrated Approach - Narasimha Rao

2) Narayan Dasa - Sanjay Rath

Best wishes,

Swee

swee (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net

www.brihaspati.net

Anil Juneja wrote:

Respected Sanjayji

 

Pranams

 

At this juncture could I ask this question

: In case of Saturn or Ketu in the dasa seed the direction of counting is

changed . Could you please tell me how do we make a judgement if both are

present. I am attaching a chart which has saturn and Ketu together in dasa

seed.

 

Rajeev Juneja

Telefax :91-11-26124170

Email : rjuneja (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

-----

Original Message -----

 

Sanjay Rath

To:

vedic astrology

Sent:

Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:32 AM

Subject:

RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Dasa, Question ----> To Sanjay Ji

 

 

|brihaspatim

varenyam|

No Rajesh, thats not correct. Even if the

divisional chart lagna changes with changes in birth time, the Varga Narayana

Dasa will not change..the world will have to follow Narayana and not vice

versa. Change in Varga Narayana dasa occurs only when there is a change

in Rasi lagna. The seed that generates the Varga Narayana Dasa is the

lord of the Karya Bhava in the Rasi chart and this does not change unless

Lagna changes in rasi chart.

I know and agree that initially the knowledge

of the dasa systems, so many of them can be difficult and that is why

I am always urging people to first master Vimsottari and Narayana dasa

before venturing into others. But then without these dasas we really won't

know what is happening.

Oh yes, language can be a great barrier.

No offences and I appreciate your support

to Jyotish and your sincerity in learning.

~ om tat sat ~

Yours truly,

Sanjay Rath

[Guest guest]

Dear Rajeev,

 

I think my reasoning would be like this:

I may be wrong as I am still learning Narayana Dasa:

 

Cp is rising with Moon, Sat and Ketu in it.

 

So the Narayana's Seed das shoud begin from Cp itself.

Also you will notice, Cp is a Even footed and as per rule

you should go backword direction. But as you have correctly said,

the presence of Sat or Ketu, the dasas go forwad direction,

hence the sequence would be

 

----->>> Cp,Aq,Pi,Ar,Ta,Ge,Cn,Le,Li,Sc,Sg..... and so on.

 

Hope this helps and request learned members to correct me if I am

wrong.

 

Regards

Rao

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Anil Juneja" <rjuneja@v...>

wrote:

> Respected Sanjayji

>

> Pranams

>

> At this juncture could I ask this question : In case of Saturn or

Ketu in the dasa seed the direction of counting is changed . Could

you please tell me how do we make a judgement if both are present. I

am attaching a chart which has saturn and Ketu together in dasa seed.

>

> Rajeev Juneja

> Telefax :91-11-26124170

> Email : rjuneja@v...

>

> -

> Sanjay Rath

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, June 25, 2003 7:32 AM

> RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Narayana Dasa, Question ---->

To Sanjay Ji

>

>

>

>

> |brihaspatim varenyam|

> No Rajesh, thats not correct. Even if the divisional chart lagna

changes with changes in birth time, the Varga Narayana Dasa will not

change..the world will have to follow Narayana and not vice versa.

Change in Varga Narayana dasa occurs only when there is a change in

Rasi lagna. The seed that generates the Varga Narayana Dasa is the

lord of the Karya Bhava in the Rasi chart and this does not change

unless Lagna changes in rasi chart.

> I know and agree that initially the knowledge of the dasa

systems, so many of them can be difficult and that is why I am always

urging people to first master Vimsottari and Narayana dasa before

venturing into others. But then without these dasas we really won't

know what is happening.

> Oh yes, language can be a great barrier.

> No offences and I appreciate your support to Jyotish and your

sincerity in learning.

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Yours truly,

> Sanjay Rath

>

>

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[Guest guest]

Dear Sanjay Guruji,

Thanks for your appreciation. Now its finally clear that D-10

Narayana Dasa is not subject to any minor changes in birth time,

unless and until Rashi Lagna changes completely..I forgot that the

seed of D-10 N-dasa is the 10th Lord of Rashi chart. So Varga Naryana

Dasa is also a relevant and useful tool for career analysis.

 

Thanks and Regards

Rajesh Kumaria.

 

vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...>

wrote:

>

>

> |brihaspatim varenyam|

> No Rajesh, thats not correct. Even if the divisional chart lagna

changes with changes in birth time, the Varga Narayana Dasa will not

change..the world will have to follow Narayana and not vice versa.

Change in Varga Narayana dasa occurs only when there is a change in

Rasi lagna. The seed that generates the Varga Narayana Dasa is the

lord of the Karya Bhava in the Rasi chart and this does not change

unless Lagna changes in rasi chart.

> I know and agree that initially the knowledge of the dasa systems,

so many of them can be difficult and that is why I am always urging

people to first master Vimsottari and Narayana dasa before venturing

into others. But then without these dasas we really won't know what

is happening.

> Oh yes, language can be a great barrier.

> No offences and I appreciate your support to Jyotish and your

sincerity in learning.

> ~ om tat sat ~

> Yours truly,

> Sanjay Rath

> ---------------------------

> H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com

> ---------------------------