Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Gurus, I am quite desperate and I will really appreciate if my horoscope is taken up for discussion. I lost my consultancy position all of a sudden on January 31, 2002. Since then, I've had a little bit of work from July 2002 through September 2002 and then from March 15 on, but this is also in jeopardy now. Most of my savings have been exhausted and due to increased competition, I feel quite uncertain about my future. What do you think the future holds for me? Is it a change in career or do you see me staying in my profession of computer software? Any idea on about when my situation might improve? Here are my particulars: Date of birth: October 24, 1947 Time if birth: 16:30 Indian Standard Time Place of birth: 30-20N 76-55E Nakshtra: Dhanishta - 4th charan Ascendant: Pisces (12-36) Taurus : Rahu 1-19 Ret Cancer: Mars(19-47) and Saturn (28-01) Libra: Sun(7-04), Venus (20-28), Mercury (28-13) Scorpio: Jupiter (6-57) Ke (1-19R) Aquarius: (Moon 3-27) Vimshottari Dasa: Saturn Mahadasa ended on June 30, 2002 and the Mercury Mahadasa started on July 1, 2002. Currently: Mercury Mahadasa (July 1, 2002 to July 1, 2019) Mercury Antardasa up to July 11, 2004 Moon pratyantardasa May 21-2003 to Jul 03, 2003 Mars pratyantardasa upto Sep 13, 2003 Rahu upto 04 Nov, 2003 Jup upto 15 Mar, 2004 Sa upto 11 Jul, 2004 I am married (Dec 8, 1976), have a daughter and a son, have lived in USA since July 26, 1970, lost my mother on Jan 18, 2001, father is alive, despite moderate education I have done well but my savings have always been low. Everytime I accumulate some money in the bank, I end up losing most of it either due to job-loss or, loss in investments. Then the cycle starts again - accumulate and lose it all. Wife generally has had bad health although nothing major. I need serious guidance and will be highly obliged. Very sincerely, Dhanishta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Dhanishtha, Your TOB was corrected by me to reflect your profession in software programming. I calculated your chart using TOB- 4.28 PM. By modifying it such, we get mercury and ketu in Cancer in the 10th from your Arudha Lagna indicating software. Now the trouble makers are Mercury, Jupiter and Mars. Mercury lords the 12th from AL and Jupiter and Mars are placed in the 12th from AL in Virgo. Virgo is also the 8th house from Lagna, consequently you lost your job in Mercury/Mercury/Jupiter/Mars. Now interestingly Mercury is also the 5th Lord from Lagna indicating change in job and he is also capable of giving you a new job.But since he is the Lord of 12th to AL and is placed in the 6th from Lagna, the Karaka for the 6th house Saturn will give a new opportunity.Saturn is the Lord of the Lagna,and Yogakaraka for the AL, Libra. He is also favorably placed in the 3rd from AL. Malefics in 3rd from AL are good for material changes.So you have a high chance of rejoining the workforce in Mer/Mer/Sat that falls in the time period Nov 03 through Feb 04. Now in the interim please pray to Sri Krishna(Moon) who is in the 6th from the Amatyakaraka Mercury. Since Mercury is your Amatyakaraka, praying to Sri Krishna will bless you with a new job. Hare Krishna Sudharsan vedic astrology, "dhanishta1947" <dhanishta1947> wrote: > Gurus, > I am quite desperate and I will really appreciate if my horoscope is > taken up for discussion. I lost my consultancy position all of a > sudden on January 31, 2002. Since then, I've had a little bit of > work from July 2002 through September 2002 and then from March 15 > on, but this is also in jeopardy now. Most of my savings have been > exhausted and due to increased competition, I feel quite uncertain > about my future. What do you think the future holds for me? Is it a > change in career or do you see me staying in my profession of > computer software? Any idea on about when my situation might improve? > > Here are my particulars: > Date of birth: October 24, 1947 > Time if birth: 16:30 Indian Standard Time > Place of birth: 30-20N 76-55E > Nakshtra: Dhanishta - 4th charan > Ascendant: Pisces (12-36) > Taurus : Rahu 1-19 Ret > Cancer: Mars(19-47) and Saturn (28-01) > Libra: Sun(7-04), Venus (20-28), Mercury (28-13) > Scorpio: Jupiter (6-57) Ke (1-19R) > Aquarius: (Moon 3-27) > > Vimshottari Dasa: > Saturn Mahadasa ended on June 30, 2002 and the Mercury Mahadasa > started on July 1, 2002. > Currently: > Mercury Mahadasa (July 1, 2002 to July 1, 2019) > Mercury Antardasa up to July 11, 2004 > Moon pratyantardasa May 21-2003 to Jul 03, 2003 > Mars pratyantardasa upto Sep 13, 2003 > Rahu upto 04 Nov, 2003 > Jup upto 15 Mar, 2004 > Sa upto 11 Jul, 2004 > > I am married (Dec 8, 1976), have a daughter and a son, have lived in > USA since July 26, 1970, lost my mother on Jan 18, 2001, father is > alive, despite moderate education I have done well but my savings > have always been low. Everytime I accumulate some money in the bank, > I end up losing most of it either due to job-loss or, loss in > investments. Then the cycle starts again - accumulate and lose it > all. Wife generally has had bad health although nothing major. > > I need serious guidance and will be highly obliged. > > Very sincerely, > Dhanishta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Dhanista, Your current difficulties are due to a weak Mercury, situated in the 8th house. You are also running the maha dasha of Mercury. Thus, the negative effects of Mercury are pronounced. You should request, periodically during the mahadasha, a pandit to perform yagyas for you to gain the support of nature in all of your endeavors. Since you are living in the USA, it is likely that you are not residing in a house with proper vastu. At the very least, you should move into a house with the entrance meeting the east or the north. Regards, John R. --- dhanishta1947 <dhanishta1947 wrote: > Gurus, > I am quite desperate and I will really appreciate if > my horoscope is > taken up for discussion. I lost my consultancy > position all of a > sudden on January 31, 2002. Since then, I've had a > little bit of > work from July 2002 through September 2002 and then > from March 15 > on, but this is also in jeopardy now. Most of my > savings have been > exhausted and due to increased competition, I feel > quite uncertain > about my future. What do you think the future holds > for me? Is it a > change in career or do you see me staying in my > profession of > computer software? Any idea on about when my > situation might improve? > > Here are my particulars: > Date of birth: October 24, 1947 > Time if birth: 16:30 Indian Standard Time > Place of birth: 30-20N 76-55E > Nakshtra: Dhanishta - 4th charan > Ascendant: Pisces (12-36) > Taurus : Rahu 1-19 Ret > Cancer: Mars(19-47) and Saturn (28-01) > Libra: Sun(7-04), Venus (20-28), Mercury (28-13) > Scorpio: Jupiter (6-57) Ke (1-19R) > Aquarius: (Moon 3-27) > > Vimshottari Dasa: > Saturn Mahadasa ended on June 30, 2002 and the > Mercury Mahadasa > started on July 1, 2002. > Currently: > Mercury Mahadasa (July 1, 2002 to July 1, > 2019) > Mercury Antardasa up to July 11, 2004 > Moon pratyantardasa May 21-2003 > to Jul 03, 2003 > Mars pratyantardasa upto Sep 13, > 2003 > Rahu upto 04 Nov, 2003 > Jup upto 15 Mar, 2004 > Sa upto 11 Jul, 2004 > > I am married (Dec 8, 1976), have a daughter and a > son, have lived in > USA since July 26, 1970, lost my mother on Jan 18, > 2001, father is > alive, despite moderate education I have done well > but my savings > have always been low. Everytime I accumulate some > money in the bank, > I end up losing most of it either due to job-loss > or, loss in > investments. Then the cycle starts again - > accumulate and lose it > all. Wife generally has had bad health although > nothing major. > > I need serious guidance and will be highly obliged. > > Very sincerely, > Dhanishta > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 Namaste to all gurus, I am new student of astrology and learning. I am also having some difficulty. I will put up my case later. But Can we overcome negative effects of mercury by recitation of vishnu sahasranama or dasavathara stotra...please guide me...? pranams ganesh vedic astrology, JR <jr_esq> wrote: > Dhanista, > > Your current difficulties are due to a weak Mercury, > situated in the 8th house. You are also running the > maha dasha of Mercury. Thus, the negative effects of > Mercury are pronounced. > > You should request, periodically during the mahadasha, > a pandit to perform yagyas for you to gain the support > of nature in all of your endeavors. > > Since you are living in the USA, it is likely that you > are not residing in a house with proper vastu. At the > very least, you should move into a house with the > entrance meeting the east or the north. > > Regards, > > John R. > > > > > --- dhanishta1947 <dhanishta1947> wrote: > > Gurus, > > I am quite desperate and I will really appreciate if > > my horoscope is > > taken up for discussion. I lost my consultancy > > position all of a > > sudden on January 31, 2002. Since then, I've had a > > little bit of > > work from July 2002 through September 2002 and then > > from March 15 > > on, but this is also in jeopardy now. Most of my > > savings have been > > exhausted and due to increased competition, I feel > > quite uncertain > > about my future. What do you think the future holds > > for me? Is it a > > change in career or do you see me staying in my > > profession of > > computer software? Any idea on about when my > > situation might improve? > > > > Here are my particulars: > > Date of birth: October 24, 1947 > > Time if birth: 16:30 Indian Standard Time > > Place of birth: 30-20N 76-55E > > Nakshtra: Dhanishta - 4th charan > > Ascendant: Pisces (12-36) > > Taurus : Rahu 1-19 Ret > > Cancer: Mars(19-47) and Saturn (28-01) > > Libra: Sun(7-04), Venus (20-28), Mercury (28-13) > > Scorpio: Jupiter (6-57) Ke (1-19R) > > Aquarius: (Moon 3-27) > > > > Vimshottari Dasa: > > Saturn Mahadasa ended on June 30, 2002 and the > > Mercury Mahadasa > > started on July 1, 2002. > > Currently: > > Mercury Mahadasa (July 1, 2002 to July 1, > > 2019) > > Mercury Antardasa up to July 11, 2004 > > Moon pratyantardasa May 21-2003 > > to Jul 03, 2003 > > Mars pratyantardasa upto Sep 13, > > 2003 > > Rahu upto 04 Nov, 2003 > > Jup upto 15 Mar, 2004 > > Sa upto 11 Jul, 2004 > > > > I am married (Dec 8, 1976), have a daughter and a > > son, have lived in > > USA since July 26, 1970, lost my mother on Jan 18, > > 2001, father is > > alive, despite moderate education I have done well > > but my savings > > have always been low. Everytime I accumulate some > > money in the bank, > > I end up losing most of it either due to job-loss > > or, loss in > > investments. Then the cycle starts again - > > accumulate and lose it > > all. Wife generally has had bad health although > > nothing major. > > > > I need serious guidance and will be highly obliged. > > > > Very sincerely, > > Dhanishta > > > > > > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! > http://sbc. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Ganesh, Yes you definitely can. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - saiganesh_h vedic astrology Saturday, June 21, 2003 4:08 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Desperately seeking guidance regarding job situation Namaste to all gurus,I am new student of astrology and learning. I am also having some difficulty. I will put up my case later. But Can we overcome negative effects of mercury by recitation of vishnu sahasranama or dasavathara stotra...please guide me...?pranamsganesh--- In vedic astrology, JR <jr_esq> wrote:> Dhanista,> > Your current difficulties are due to a weak Mercury,> situated in the 8th house. You are also running the> maha dasha of Mercury. Thus, the negative effects of> Mercury are pronounced.> > You should request, periodically during the mahadasha,> a pandit to perform yagyas for you to gain the support> of nature in all of your endeavors.> > Since you are living in the USA, it is likely that you> are not residing in a house with proper vastu. At the> very least, you should move into a house with the> entrance meeting the east or the north.> > Regards,> > John R.> > > > > --- dhanishta1947 <dhanishta1947> wrote:> > Gurus,> > I am quite desperate and I will really appreciate if> > my horoscope is > > taken up for discussion. I lost my consultancy> > position all of a > > sudden on January 31, 2002. Since then, I've had a> > little bit of > > work from July 2002 through September 2002 and then> > from March 15 > > on, but this is also in jeopardy now. Most of my> > savings have been > > exhausted and due to increased competition, I feel> > quite uncertain > > about my future. What do you think the future holds> > for me? Is it a > > change in career or do you see me staying in my> > profession of > > computer software? Any idea on about when my> > situation might improve?> > > > Here are my particulars:> > Date of birth: October 24, 1947> > Time if birth: 16:30 Indian Standard Time> > Place of birth: 30-20N 76-55E> > Nakshtra: Dhanishta - 4th charan> > Ascendant: Pisces (12-36)> > Taurus : Rahu 1-19 Ret> > Cancer: Mars(19-47) and Saturn (28-01)> > Libra: Sun(7-04), Venus (20-28), Mercury (28-13)> > Scorpio: Jupiter (6-57) Ke (1-19R)> > Aquarius: (Moon 3-27) > > > > Vimshottari Dasa:> > Saturn Mahadasa ended on June 30, 2002 and the> > Mercury Mahadasa > > started on July 1, 2002.> > Currently:> > Mercury Mahadasa (July 1, 2002 to July 1,> > 2019)> > Mercury Antardasa up to July 11, 2004> > Moon pratyantardasa May 21-2003> > to Jul 03, 2003> > Mars pratyantardasa upto Sep 13,> > 2003> > Rahu upto 04 Nov, 2003> > Jup upto 15 Mar, 2004> > Sa upto 11 Jul, 2004> > > > I am married (Dec 8, 1976), have a daughter and a> > son, have lived in > > USA since July 26, 1970, lost my mother on Jan 18,> > 2001, father is > > alive, despite moderate education I have done well> > but my savings > > have always been low. Everytime I accumulate some> > money in the bank, > > I end up losing most of it either due to job-loss> > or, loss in > > investments. Then the cycle starts again -> > accumulate and lose it > > all. Wife generally has had bad health although> > nothing major.> > > > I need serious guidance and will be highly obliged.> > > > Very sincerely,> > Dhanishta> > > > > > > > > > > SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month!> http://sbc.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 Dear Sudharsan and Dhanishtha, Well my chart and situation is also somewhat similar, so I am trying to present my humble point of view. As per my knowledge, Mercury is the exception to 8th house rules and is considered strong in 8th house. I think its Sun and Venus in 8th house(Rashi chart) causing problems. Also DhanaKaraka Jupiter is on Rahu-Ketu axis and hence aspected by Rahu, which may be hurting finances throughout life. Since Mercury is also 5th and 8th Lord in D-10(corrected chart), so Mercury pratyantar should lead to new job developments, but since Mercury and Ketu are in Cancer, so the dispoisitor of Mercury i.e., Moon may give such changes. Hence Mercury/Mercury/moon from 07/05/2003 to 09/17/2003 may give such changes. So may be he needs to pray to LORD BRIHASPATI for wealth and savings. Please correct,if necessary. Also is'nt Saturn the karaka for 12th house and not the 6th house? All the best. regards. rajesh kumaria. vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan" <sudhar108> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Dhanishtha, > > Your TOB was corrected by me to reflect your profession in software > programming. I calculated your chart using TOB- 4.28 PM. By modifying > it such, we get mercury and ketu in Cancer in the 10th from your > Arudha Lagna indicating software. > Now the trouble makers are Mercury, Jupiter and Mars. Mercury lords > the 12th from AL and Jupiter and Mars are placed in the 12th from AL > in Virgo. Virgo is also the 8th house from Lagna, consequently you > lost your job in Mercury/Mercury/Jupiter/Mars. Now interestingly > Mercury is also the 5th Lord from Lagna indicating change in job and > he is also capable of giving you a new job.But since he is the Lord > of 12th to AL and is placed in the 6th from Lagna, the Karaka for the > 6th house Saturn will give a new opportunity.Saturn is the Lord of > the Lagna,and Yogakaraka for the AL, Libra. He is also favorably > placed in the 3rd from AL. Malefics in 3rd from AL are good for > material changes.So you have a high chance of rejoining the workforce > in Mer/Mer/Sat that falls in the time period Nov 03 through Feb 04. > Now in the interim please pray to Sri Krishna(Moon) who is in the 6th > from the Amatyakaraka Mercury. Since Mercury is your Amatyakaraka, > praying to Sri Krishna will bless you with a new job. > > > Hare Krishna > > > Sudharsan > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dhanishta1947" > <dhanishta1947> wrote: > > Gurus, > > I am quite desperate and I will really appreciate if my horoscope > is > > taken up for discussion. I lost my consultancy position all of a > > sudden on January 31, 2002. Since then, I've had a little bit of > > work from July 2002 through September 2002 and then from March 15 > > on, but this is also in jeopardy now. Most of my savings have been > > exhausted and due to increased competition, I feel quite uncertain > > about my future. What do you think the future holds for me? Is it a > > change in career or do you see me staying in my profession of > > computer software? Any idea on about when my situation might > improve? > > > > Here are my particulars: > > Date of birth: October 24, 1947 > > Time if birth: 16:30 Indian Standard Time > > Place of birth: 30-20N 76-55E > > Nakshtra: Dhanishta - 4th charan > > Ascendant: Pisces (12-36) > > Taurus : Rahu 1-19 Ret > > Cancer: Mars(19-47) and Saturn (28-01) > > Libra: Sun(7-04), Venus (20-28), Mercury (28-13) > > Scorpio: Jupiter (6-57) Ke (1-19R) > > Aquarius: (Moon 3-27) > > > > Vimshottari Dasa: > > Saturn Mahadasa ended on June 30, 2002 and the Mercury Mahadasa > > started on July 1, 2002. > > Currently: > > Mercury Mahadasa (July 1, 2002 to July 1, 2019) > > Mercury Antardasa up to July 11, 2004 > > Moon pratyantardasa May 21-2003 to Jul 03, 2003 > > Mars pratyantardasa upto Sep 13, 2003 > > Rahu upto 04 Nov, 2003 > > Jup upto 15 Mar, 2004 > > Sa upto 11 Jul, 2004 > > > > I am married (Dec 8, 1976), have a daughter and a son, have lived > in > > USA since July 26, 1970, lost my mother on Jan 18, 2001, father is > > alive, despite moderate education I have done well but my savings > > have always been low. Everytime I accumulate some money in the > bank, > > I end up losing most of it either due to job-loss or, loss in > > investments. Then the cycle starts again - accumulate and lose it > > all. Wife generally has had bad health although nothing major. > > > > I need serious guidance and will be highly obliged. > > > > Very sincerely, > > Dhanishta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 While Sudharsan focused primarily on AL and Rajesh on rashi and Dch. broader question arises, I wish if our Gurus would clarify this important issue, for us: How to assess effect of any planet D. if info from AL and Rashi standpoint is different How do we go about interpretation if Rashi /andD's/ and AL info contradicts? So, Sudharsan rightfully considers position of Mercury in 12 from AL non-auspitious, and Rajesh responds with different reference point in mind-Rashi chart, in response to Sudharasan. Rajesh said that Mercury in 8 is consider good, and that is, as far as I know, true- very beneficial position for Me for some /not known to me/ reason. What will Mercury MD bring? 12th house AL effects, or 'king of the village' 8th Rashi effects, or some mixture of two/what?/ - here we have 2 positions, that can stay right separatly and NO answer. I would also add my example: I'll be in Mars MD soon- Mars is YK, conj HL is trine Rahu- in AL Mars is in 8th, and my Guru for that reason rightfully excludes wearing Coral, which otherwise would be beneficial /from Rashi point of view/- What results can I expect, what mantras would be befeficial, what's the 'threat' AL 8th Mars would present?. I know: it's issue of data integration, but a lead in that direction would certainly help. Thanks, AnnaRajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 > wrote: Dear Sudharsan and Dhanishtha, Well my chart and situation is also somewhat similar, so I am trying to present my humble point of view. As per my knowledge, Mercury is the exception to 8th house rules and is considered strong in 8th house. I think its Sun and Venus in 8th house(Rashi chart) causing problems. Also DhanaKaraka Jupiter is on Rahu-Ketu axis and hence aspected by Rahu, which may be hurting finances throughout life. Since Mercury is also 5th and 8th Lord in D-10(corrected chart), so Mercury pratyantar should lead to new job developments, but since Mercury and Ketu are in Cancer, so the dispoisitor of Mercury i.e., Moon may give such changes. Hence Mercury/Mercury/moon from 07/05/2003 to 09/17/2003 may give such changes. So may be he needs to pray to LORD BRIHASPATI for wealth and savings. Please correct,if necessary. Also is'nt Saturn the karaka for 12th house and not the 6th house? All the best. regards. rajesh kumaria.vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan" <sudhar108> wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna> > Dear Dhanishtha,> > Your TOB was corrected by me to reflect your profession in software > programming. I calculated your chart using TOB- 4.28 PM. By modifying > it such, we get mercury and ketu in Cancer in the 10th from your > Arudha Lagna indicating software.> Now the trouble makers are Mercury, Jupiter and Mars. Mercury lords > the 12th from AL and Jupiter and Mars are placed in the 12th from AL > in Virgo. Virgo is also the 8th house from Lagna, consequently you > lost your job in Mercury/Mercury/Jupiter/Mars. Now interestingly > Mercury is also the 5th Lord from Lagna indicating change in job and > he is also capable of giving you a new job.But since he is the Lord > of 12th to AL and is placed in the 6th from Lagna, the Karaka for the > 6th house Saturn will give a new opportunity.Saturn is the Lord of > the Lagna,and Yogakaraka for the AL, Libra. He is also favorably > placed in the 3rd from AL. Malefics in 3rd from AL are good for > material changes.So you have a high chance of rejoining the workforce > in Mer/Mer/Sat that falls in the time period Nov 03 through Feb 04.> Now in the interim please pray to Sri Krishna(Moon) who is in the 6th > from the Amatyakaraka Mercury. Since Mercury is your Amatyakaraka, > praying to Sri Krishna will bless you with a new job.> > > Hare Krishna> > > Sudharsan> > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dhanishta1947" > <dhanishta1947> wrote:> > Gurus,> > I am quite desperate and I will really appreciate if my horoscope > is > > taken up for discussion. I lost my consultancy position all of a > > sudden on January 31, 2002. Since then, I've had a little bit of > > work from July 2002 through September 2002 and then from March 15 > > on, but this is also in jeopardy now. Most of my savings have been > > exhausted and due to increased competition, I feel quite uncertain > > about my future. What do you think the future holds for me? Is it a > > change in career or do you see me staying in my profession of > > computer software? Any idea on about when my situation might > improve?> > > > Here are my particulars:> > Date of birth: October 24, 1947> > Time if birth: 16:30 Indian Standard Time> > Place of birth: 30-20N 76-55E> > Nakshtra: Dhanishta - 4th charan> > Ascendant: Pisces (12-36)> > Taurus : Rahu 1-19 Ret> > Cancer: Mars(19-47) and Saturn (28-01)> > Libra: Sun(7-04), Venus (20-28), Mercury (28-13)> > Scorpio: Jupiter (6-57) Ke (1-19R)> > Aquarius: (Moon 3-27) > > > > Vimshottari Dasa:> > Saturn Mahadasa ended on June 30, 2002 and the Mercury Mahadasa > > started on July 1, 2002.> > Currently:> > Mercury Mahadasa (July 1, 2002 to July 1, 2019)> > Mercury Antardasa up to July 11, 2004> > Moon pratyantardasa May 21-2003 to Jul 03, 2003> > Mars pratyantardasa upto Sep 13, 2003> > Rahu upto 04 Nov, 2003> > Jup upto 15 Mar, 2004> > Sa upto 11 Jul, 2004> > > > I am married (Dec 8, 1976), have a daughter and a son, have lived > in > > USA since July 26, 1970, lost my mother on Jan 18, 2001, father is > > alive, despite moderate education I have done well but my savings > > have always been low. Everytime I accumulate some money in the > bank, > > I end up losing most of it either due to job-loss or, loss in > > investments. Then the cycle starts again - accumulate and lose it > > all. Wife generally has had bad health although nothing major.> > > > I need serious guidance and will be highly obliged.> > > > Very sincerely,> > DhanishtaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 While Sudharsan focused primarily on AL and Rajesh on rashi and Dch. broader question arises, I wish if our Gurus would clarify this important issue, for us: How to assess effect of any planet D. if info from AL and Rashi standpoint is different How do we go about interpretation if Rashi /andD's/ and AL info contradicts? So, Sudharsan rightfully considers position of Mercury in 12 from AL non-auspitious, and Rajesh responds with different reference point in mind-Rashi chart, in response to Sudharasan. Rajesh said that Mercury in 8 is consider good, and that is, as far as I know, true- very beneficial position for Me for some /not known to me/ reason. What will Mercury MD bring? 12th house AL effects, or 'king of the village' 8th Rashi effects, or some mixture of two/what?/ - here we have 2 positions, that can stay right separatly and NO answer. I would also add my example: I'll be in Mars MD soon- Mars is YK, conj HL is trine Rahu- in AL Mars is in 8th, and my Guru for that reason rightfully excludes wearing Coral, which otherwise would be beneficial /from Rashi point of view/- What results can I expect, what mantras would be befeficial, what's the 'threat' AL 8th Mars would present?. I know: it's issue of data integration, but a lead in that direction would certainly help. Thanks, AnnaRajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 > wrote: Dear Sudharsan and Dhanishtha, Well my chart and situation is also somewhat similar, so I am trying to present my humble point of view. As per my knowledge, Mercury is the exception to 8th house rules and is considered strong in 8th house. I think its Sun and Venus in 8th house(Rashi chart) causing problems. Also DhanaKaraka Jupiter is on Rahu-Ketu axis and hence aspected by Rahu, which may be hurting finances throughout life. Since Mercury is also 5th and 8th Lord in D-10(corrected chart), so Mercury pratyantar should lead to new job developments, but since Mercury and Ketu are in Cancer, so the dispoisitor of Mercury i.e., Moon may give such changes. Hence Mercury/Mercury/moon from 07/05/2003 to 09/17/2003 may give such changes. So may be he needs to pray to LORD BRIHASPATI for wealth and savings. Please correct,if necessary. Also is'nt Saturn the karaka for 12th house and not the 6th house? All the best. regards. rajesh kumaria.vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan" <sudhar108> wrote:> Hare Rama Krishna> > Dear Dhanishtha,> > Your TOB was corrected by me to reflect your profession in software > programming. I calculated your chart using TOB- 4.28 PM. By modifying > it such, we get mercury and ketu in Cancer in the 10th from your > Arudha Lagna indicating software.> Now the trouble makers are Mercury, Jupiter and Mars. Mercury lords > the 12th from AL and Jupiter and Mars are placed in the 12th from AL > in Virgo. Virgo is also the 8th house from Lagna, consequently you > lost your job in Mercury/Mercury/Jupiter/Mars. Now interestingly > Mercury is also the 5th Lord from Lagna indicating change in job and > he is also capable of giving you a new job.But since he is the Lord > of 12th to AL and is placed in the 6th from Lagna, the Karaka for the > 6th house Saturn will give a new opportunity.Saturn is the Lord of > the Lagna,and Yogakaraka for the AL, Libra. He is also favorably > placed in the 3rd from AL. Malefics in 3rd from AL are good for > material changes.So you have a high chance of rejoining the workforce > in Mer/Mer/Sat that falls in the time period Nov 03 through Feb 04.> Now in the interim please pray to Sri Krishna(Moon) who is in the 6th > from the Amatyakaraka Mercury. Since Mercury is your Amatyakaraka, > praying to Sri Krishna will bless you with a new job.> > > Hare Krishna> > > Sudharsan> > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dhanishta1947" > <dhanishta1947> wrote:> > Gurus,> > I am quite desperate and I will really appreciate if my horoscope > is > > taken up for discussion. I lost my consultancy position all of a > > sudden on January 31, 2002. Since then, I've had a little bit of > > work from July 2002 through September 2002 and then from March 15 > > on, but this is also in jeopardy now. Most of my savings have been > > exhausted and due to increased competition, I feel quite uncertain > > about my future. What do you think the future holds for me? Is it a > > change in career or do you see me staying in my profession of > > computer software? Any idea on about when my situation might > improve?> > > > Here are my particulars:> > Date of birth: October 24, 1947> > Time if birth: 16:30 Indian Standard Time> > Place of birth: 30-20N 76-55E> > Nakshtra: Dhanishta - 4th charan> > Ascendant: Pisces (12-36)> > Taurus : Rahu 1-19 Ret> > Cancer: Mars(19-47) and Saturn (28-01)> > Libra: Sun(7-04), Venus (20-28), Mercury (28-13)> > Scorpio: Jupiter (6-57) Ke (1-19R)> > Aquarius: (Moon 3-27) > > > > Vimshottari Dasa:> > Saturn Mahadasa ended on June 30, 2002 and the Mercury Mahadasa > > started on July 1, 2002.> > Currently:> > Mercury Mahadasa (July 1, 2002 to July 1, 2019)> > Mercury Antardasa up to July 11, 2004> > Moon pratyantardasa May 21-2003 to Jul 03, 2003> > Mars pratyantardasa upto Sep 13, 2003> > Rahu upto 04 Nov, 2003> > Jup upto 15 Mar, 2004> > Sa upto 11 Jul, 2004> > > > I am married (Dec 8, 1976), have a daughter and a son, have lived > in > > USA since July 26, 1970, lost my mother on Jan 18, 2001, father is > > alive, despite moderate education I have done well but my savings > > have always been low. Everytime I accumulate some money in the > bank, > > I end up losing most of it either due to job-loss or, loss in > > investments. Then the cycle starts again - accumulate and lose it > > all. Wife generally has had bad health although nothing major.> > > > I need serious guidance and will be highly obliged.> > > > Very sincerely,> > DhanishtaArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Rajesh, Thanks for your remarks.IMO Moon is not a good candidate as it is in the 6th from AL in D-10.In my humble opinion and experience, judging the results of D-10 from AL is advisable, as having and not having a job reflects on material status or lack thereof.Saturn without a doubt has many karakatwas, but when we refer to service(6th house)he definitely dominates and moreover he is also a karaka for the 10th house.Saturn assumes the karakatwa for the 12th house when past karma (D-60) comes into picture. I also have a tendency to focus on a specific D-chart when dealing with a specific aspect of life. If we have a reasonably good estimate of the TOB, everything related to actions in society should be explainable using D-10 i.e I dont go back and forth between D-10 and Rasi chart. Of course, this is not to say that this is the only way to do it. I learnt this from the Gurus of this group and it also makes a lot of sense, if not why would Sri Parasara even talk about divisions. Now, coming to his finances, its because of the affliction(Rasi chart) of the 2nd house and its Karaka (Jupiter) by Rahu and Saturn.This is a curse on the second house and one of the malefics (Rahu) involved in the curse is also aspecting the second house karaka, Jupiter.This is also repeated or confirmed in D-60 as Saturn is posited in the 2nd house and Rahu aspects the same.This is a tricky area and I am still in the process of analyzing it.BTW he is running the Moola dasa of Jupiter since 1995 and the curse will definitely play a role.Iam still in the process of learning to analyze curses and could be wrong. Best Regards, Hare Krishna Sudharsan vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > Dear Sudharsan and Dhanishtha, > Well my chart and situation is also somewhat similar, so I am trying > to present my humble point of view. As per my knowledge, Mercury is > the exception to 8th house rules and is considered strong in 8th > house. I think its Sun and Venus in 8th house(Rashi chart) causing > problems. Also DhanaKaraka Jupiter is on Rahu-Ketu axis and hence > aspected by Rahu, which may be hurting finances throughout life. > Since Mercury is also 5th and 8th Lord in D-10(corrected chart), so > Mercury pratyantar should lead to new job developments, but since > Mercury and Ketu are in Cancer, so the dispoisitor of Mercury i.e., > Moon may give such changes. Hence Mercury/Mercury/moon from > 07/05/2003 to 09/17/2003 may give such changes. So may be he needs to > pray to LORD BRIHASPATI for wealth and savings. Please correct,if > necessary. Also is'nt Saturn the karaka for 12th house and not the > 6th house? All the best. regards. rajesh kumaria. > > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan" > <sudhar108> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Dhanishtha, > > > > Your TOB was corrected by me to reflect your profession in software > > programming. I calculated your chart using TOB- 4.28 PM. By > modifying > > it such, we get mercury and ketu in Cancer in the 10th from your > > Arudha Lagna indicating software. > > Now the trouble makers are Mercury, Jupiter and Mars. Mercury > lords > > the 12th from AL and Jupiter and Mars are placed in the 12th from > AL > > in Virgo. Virgo is also the 8th house from Lagna, consequently you > > lost your job in Mercury/Mercury/Jupiter/Mars. Now interestingly > > Mercury is also the 5th Lord from Lagna indicating change in job > and > > he is also capable of giving you a new job.But since he is the Lord > > of 12th to AL and is placed in the 6th from Lagna, the Karaka for > the > > 6th house Saturn will give a new opportunity.Saturn is the Lord of > > the Lagna,and Yogakaraka for the AL, Libra. He is also favorably > > placed in the 3rd from AL. Malefics in 3rd from AL are good for > > material changes.So you have a high chance of rejoining the > workforce > > in Mer/Mer/Sat that falls in the time period Nov 03 through Feb 04. > > Now in the interim please pray to Sri Krishna(Moon) who is in the > 6th > > from the Amatyakaraka Mercury. Since Mercury is your Amatyakaraka, > > praying to Sri Krishna will bless you with a new job. > > > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > Sudharsan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dhanishta1947" > > <dhanishta1947> wrote: > > > Gurus, > > > I am quite desperate and I will really appreciate if my horoscope > > is > > > taken up for discussion. I lost my consultancy position all of a > > > sudden on January 31, 2002. Since then, I've had a little bit of > > > work from July 2002 through September 2002 and then from March 15 > > > on, but this is also in jeopardy now. Most of my savings have > been > > > exhausted and due to increased competition, I feel quite > uncertain > > > about my future. What do you think the future holds for me? Is it > a > > > change in career or do you see me staying in my profession of > > > computer software? Any idea on about when my situation might > > improve? > > > > > > Here are my particulars: > > > Date of birth: October 24, 1947 > > > Time if birth: 16:30 Indian Standard Time > > > Place of birth: 30-20N 76-55E > > > Nakshtra: Dhanishta - 4th charan > > > Ascendant: Pisces (12-36) > > > Taurus : Rahu 1-19 Ret > > > Cancer: Mars(19-47) and Saturn (28-01) > > > Libra: Sun(7-04), Venus (20-28), Mercury (28-13) > > > Scorpio: Jupiter (6-57) Ke (1-19R) > > > Aquarius: (Moon 3-27) > > > > > > Vimshottari Dasa: > > > Saturn Mahadasa ended on June 30, 2002 and the Mercury > Mahadasa > > > started on July 1, 2002. > > > Currently: > > > Mercury Mahadasa (July 1, 2002 to July 1, 2019) > > > Mercury Antardasa up to July 11, 2004 > > > Moon pratyantardasa May 21-2003 to Jul 03, 2003 > > > Mars pratyantardasa upto Sep 13, 2003 > > > Rahu upto 04 Nov, 2003 > > > Jup upto 15 Mar, 2004 > > > Sa upto 11 Jul, 2004 > > > > > > I am married (Dec 8, 1976), have a daughter and a son, have lived > > in > > > USA since July 26, 1970, lost my mother on Jan 18, 2001, father > is > > > alive, despite moderate education I have done well but my savings > > > have always been low. Everytime I accumulate some money in the > > bank, > > > I end up losing most of it either due to job-loss or, loss in > > > investments. Then the cycle starts again - accumulate and lose it > > > all. Wife generally has had bad health although nothing major. > > > > > > I need serious guidance and will be highly obliged. > > > > > > Very sincerely, > > > Dhanishta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna This is in addition to what was posted previously reading job prospects for Dhanishtha.Mercury is a Maha Yogadha for the D-10 chart and participates in a Vipareeta Raja Yoga and as a result he will gain after some initial pressures. Hare Krishna Sudharsan Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 Dear Sudharsan, Well I think we are both presenting different approaches which have got mixed up here. I think its perfectly OK to go back and forth between Rashi and Divisional chart, since the Vimshottari Dashas apply to positions of various planets simultaneously in Rashi and Divisional charts. Also the Divisional charts cannot be studied independently, since they are merely projections of the planetary positions in Rashi Chart and hence they are linked to each other. So that's the reason for my approach.That's the standard technique used everywhere (various books, articles) and so I used it. Your considerations about planetary positions in D-10 chart w.r.t AL are definitely correct but then you have to compute D-10 Narayana Dasa for timing issues . Narayana Dasa/Antardasa of 6th/8th/12th Rashis in D-10 chart can indicate changes in career and among these three Rashis, the ones which are placed in favourable position from AL (D10) will give better job changes than others. Also these concepts are very experimental and require other considerations like the AL Lord's strength, GL, HL etc., . But, with all due regards, you have used vimshottari dasa and positions w.r.t. AL and hence you reached different results. I am not sure if we can do timing like this. Can we mix Vimshottari Dasa and N-dasa concepts? On the otherhand I just stayed within the much safer/familiar territory of V-dasa concepts and used the standard rule that 5th Lord (or planets connected to 5th lord by conjunction, aspect or disposition)pratyantar-dasa gives job changes(which may or may not be favourable from AL position) ...so you may be right about moon being in 6th from AL in D-10, but does this rule apply to Moon pratyantar- dasa or Cancer N-dasa? That's the confusion here. Hope the Gurus clarify it. I think we both agree on afflicted Dhankaraka Jupiter's position. I have no idea about curses. Thanks and Regards Rajesh. vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan" <sudhar108> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna > > > Dear Rajesh, > > Thanks for your remarks.IMO Moon is not a good candidate as it is in > the 6th from AL in D-10.In my humble opinion and experience, judging > the results of D-10 from AL is advisable, as having and not having a > job reflects on material status or lack thereof.Saturn without a > doubt has many karakatwas, but when we refer to service(6th house) he > definitely dominates and moreover he is also a karaka for the 10th > house.Saturn assumes the karakatwa for the 12th house when past karma > (D-60) comes into picture. > > I also have a tendency to focus on a specific D-chart when dealing > with a specific aspect of life. If we have a reasonably good estimate > of the TOB, everything related to actions in society should be > explainable using D-10 i.e I dont go back and forth between D-10 and > Rasi chart. > > Of course, this is not to say that this is the only way to do it. I > learnt this from the Gurus of this group and it also makes a lot of > sense, if not why would Sri Parasara even talk about divisions. > > Now, coming to his finances, its because of the affliction(Rasi > chart) of the 2nd house and its Karaka (Jupiter) by Rahu and > Saturn.This is a curse on the second house and one of the malefics > (Rahu) involved in the curse is also aspecting the second house > karaka, Jupiter.This is also repeated or confirmed in D-60 as Saturn > is posited in the 2nd house and Rahu aspects the same.This is a > tricky area and I am still in the process of analyzing it.BTW he is > running the Moola dasa of Jupiter since 1995 and the curse will > definitely play a role.Iam still in the process of learning to > analyze curses and could be wrong. > > Best Regards, > > Hare Krishna > > Sudharsan > > vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > > Dear Sudharsan and Dhanishtha, > > Well my chart and situation is also somewhat similar, so I am > trying > > to present my humble point of view. As per my knowledge, Mercury is > > the exception to 8th house rules and is considered strong in 8th > > house. I think its Sun and Venus in 8th house(Rashi chart) causing > > problems. Also DhanaKaraka Jupiter is on Rahu-Ketu axis and hence > > aspected by Rahu, which may be hurting finances throughout life. > > Since Mercury is also 5th and 8th Lord in D-10(corrected chart), so > > Mercury pratyantar should lead to new job developments, but since > > Mercury and Ketu are in Cancer, so the dispoisitor of Mercury i.e., > > Moon may give such changes. Hence Mercury/Mercury/moon from > > 07/05/2003 to 09/17/2003 may give such changes. So may be he needs > to > > pray to LORD BRIHASPATI for wealth and savings. Please correct,if > > necessary. Also is'nt Saturn the karaka for 12th house and not the > > 6th house? All the best. regards. rajesh kumaria. > > > > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan" > > <sudhar108> wrote: > > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > > > Dear Dhanishtha, > > > > > > Your TOB was corrected by me to reflect your profession in > software > > > programming. I calculated your chart using TOB- 4.28 PM. By > > modifying > > > it such, we get mercury and ketu in Cancer in the 10th from your > > > Arudha Lagna indicating software. > > > Now the trouble makers are Mercury, Jupiter and Mars. Mercury > > lords > > > the 12th from AL and Jupiter and Mars are placed in the 12th from > > AL > > > in Virgo. Virgo is also the 8th house from Lagna, consequently > you > > > lost your job in Mercury/Mercury/Jupiter/Mars. Now interestingly > > > Mercury is also the 5th Lord from Lagna indicating change in job > > and > > > he is also capable of giving you a new job.But since he is the > Lord > > > of 12th to AL and is placed in the 6th from Lagna, the Karaka for > > the > > > 6th house Saturn will give a new opportunity.Saturn is the Lord > of > > > the Lagna,and Yogakaraka for the AL, Libra. He is also favorably > > > placed in the 3rd from AL. Malefics in 3rd from AL are good for > > > material changes.So you have a high chance of rejoining the > > workforce > > > in Mer/Mer/Sat that falls in the time period Nov 03 through Feb > 04. > > > Now in the interim please pray to Sri Krishna(Moon) who is in the > > 6th > > > from the Amatyakaraka Mercury. Since Mercury is your > Amatyakaraka, > > > praying to Sri Krishna will bless you with a new job. > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > > > > > > Sudharsan > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "dhanishta1947" > > > <dhanishta1947> wrote: > > > > Gurus, > > > > I am quite desperate and I will really appreciate if my > horoscope > > > is > > > > taken up for discussion. I lost my consultancy position all of > a > > > > sudden on January 31, 2002. Since then, I've had a little bit > of > > > > work from July 2002 through September 2002 and then from March > 15 > > > > on, but this is also in jeopardy now. Most of my savings have > > been > > > > exhausted and due to increased competition, I feel quite > > uncertain > > > > about my future. What do you think the future holds for me? Is > it > > a > > > > change in career or do you see me staying in my profession of > > > > computer software? Any idea on about when my situation might > > > improve? > > > > > > > > Here are my particulars: > > > > Date of birth: October 24, 1947 > > > > Time if birth: 16:30 Indian Standard Time > > > > Place of birth: 30-20N 76-55E > > > > Nakshtra: Dhanishta - 4th charan > > > > Ascendant: Pisces (12-36) > > > > Taurus : Rahu 1-19 Ret > > > > Cancer: Mars(19-47) and Saturn (28-01) > > > > Libra: Sun(7-04), Venus (20-28), Mercury (28-13) > > > > Scorpio: Jupiter (6-57) Ke (1-19R) > > > > Aquarius: (Moon 3-27) > > > > > > > > Vimshottari Dasa: > > > > Saturn Mahadasa ended on June 30, 2002 and the Mercury > > Mahadasa > > > > started on July 1, 2002. > > > > Currently: > > > > Mercury Mahadasa (July 1, 2002 to July 1, 2019) > > > > Mercury Antardasa up to July 11, 2004 > > > > Moon pratyantardasa May 21-2003 to Jul 03, > 2003 > > > > Mars pratyantardasa upto Sep 13, 2003 > > > > Rahu upto 04 Nov, 2003 > > > > Jup upto 15 Mar, 2004 > > > > Sa upto 11 Jul, 2004 > > > > > > > > I am married (Dec 8, 1976), have a daughter and a son, have > lived > > > in > > > > USA since July 26, 1970, lost my mother on Jan 18, 2001, father > > is > > > > alive, despite moderate education I have done well but my > savings > > > > have always been low. Everytime I accumulate some money in the > > > bank, > > > > I end up losing most of it either due to job-loss or, loss in > > > > investments. Then the cycle starts again - accumulate and lose > it > > > > all. Wife generally has had bad health although nothing major. > > > > > > > > I need serious guidance and will be highly obliged. > > > > > > > > Very sincerely, > > > > Dhanishta Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Rajesh, My comments follow after yours- > Well I think we are both presenting different approaches which have > got mixed up here. I think its perfectly OK to go back and forth > between Rashi and Divisional chart, since the Vimshottari Dashas > apply to positions of various planets simultaneously in Rashi and > Divisional charts. Sudharsan - Well, Vimsottari Dashas do apply commonly across all charts, but when a question arises about a specific area of life, static analysis has to be performed on the divisional chart concerned.A common dasha does not preclude the need for specific static analysis of a D-chart nor does it indicate that we need to go back and forth between Rashi and D-charts. Also the Divisional charts cannot be studied > independently, since they are merely projections of the planetary > positions in Rashi Chart and hence they are linked to each other. So > that's the reason for my approach.That's the standard technique used > everywhere (various books, articles) and so I used it. > Sudharsan - I beg to differ.While I agree that the positions in D- Charts are derived from the Rashi chart, each Varga is a microsopic view of that particular area of life and can definitely be studied independently if the querent poses a problem in that area.I follow the books, tapes and the methodologies given by the Gurus here and have experienced very good results in doing so and have seen great analysis and predictions being made with independent analysis of a Varga. > Your considerations about planetary positions in D-10 chart w.r.t AL > are definitely correct but then you have to compute D-10 Narayana > Dasa for timing issues . Narayana Dasa/Antardasa of 6th/8th/12th > Rashis in D-10 chart can indicate changes in career and among these > three Rashis, the ones which are placed in favourable position from > AL (D10) will give better job changes than others. Also these > concepts are very experimental and require other considerations like > the AL Lord's strength, GL, HL etc., . But, with all due regards, you > have used vimshottari dasa and positions w.r.t. AL and hence you > reached different results. I am not sure if we can do timing like > this. Can we mix Vimshottari Dasa and N-dasa concepts? Sudharsan - The techniques of using AL to time job changes are not specific to Narayana Dasa.AL,HL,GL are special lagnas and we use them to arrive at conclusions about status, power and finances respectively.Al is preferred here because of a fall in status because of the job loss and its effect on the material side of life. So static analysis using AL can definitely be used to time events using Vimsottari Dasas. > On the otherhand I just stayed within the much safer/familiar > territory of V-dasa concepts and used the standard rule that 5th Lord > (or planets connected to 5th lord by conjunction, aspect or > disposition)pratyantar-dasa gives job changes(which may or may not be > favourable from AL position) ...so you may be right about moon being > in 6th from AL in D-10, but does this rule apply to Moon pratyantar- > dasa or Cancer N-dasa? That's the confusion here. Hope the Gurus > clarify it. Sudharsan - I have answered this question in the previous paragraph. > I think we both agree on afflicted Dhankaraka Jupiter's position. I > have no idea about curses. Hare Krishna Sudharsan > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan" > <sudhar108> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 Dear Sudharsan, Well I have included some quotes by an article on Dasamsa by Dr Satya Prakash(he posted it here long time back), in which he clearly indicates various relationships between D-1 and D-10 chart. So Divisional charts cannot be studied independently. While each varga may be a microscopic view of a particular area of life, yet it is not independent from the Rashi Chart. Suppose if you see a strong 10th Lord in Rashi chart and a good D-10 chart, and the astrologer is focussed on D-10 chart only, then that's a special case. But if positions of various planets are weak iN Rashi chart, then how can D- 10 chart positions improve the status of the native? The native is always subject to Rashi chart's combinations. So everone goes back and forth between Rashi and D-10 charts. These are not just my theories or assumptions. Regards Rajesh _________________ QUOTES FROM ARTICLE ON D-10 BY DR SATYA PRAKASH: Strength of a chart generally with respect to Career: The following factors indicate a good career, public life, recognition of one's work etc: • D-1 Lagna lord in D-10 lagna • D-1 LL in good houses in D-10 (Kendras, Trikonas, 2,11) • D-1 10th lord or planets in the 10th (of rasi) well placed in D-10 What do we mean by well placed? 1. In Kendra, Trikona, 2, or 11 and 2. No malefic conjunctions or aspects Now what do we mean by malefic? Or benefic for that matter? We will come back to this point later. Is Mars a malefic in this context, with respect to career? Definitely not. Remember that the so called malefics can give strength, resilience, perseverance and the capacity to work hard, like an asura. In fact on the overall it is the malefics that give more scope for free-will, while the benefics tell more about your previous merits (poorva punya). Remember malefics in 3,6,10,11? They are most well placed in the Upachaya houses. Resuming the topic where we left it, the factors that indicate a good career life on the overall are: • D-10 lagna lord well placed in D-1 • D-10 10th lord well placed in D-1 • D-10 9L or 11L or 2L in benefic places in D-1 In other words, if a planet is well placed in both D-1 and D-10, it indicates rise in career. But what about other conditions? What if a planet is well placed in one chart, but badly placed in the other? The modifications are as follows: • D1 lords of 3,6,8,12 in benefic places in D-10: Maleficience gets reduced • D-1 benefic lords (lords of 1,5,9) badly placed in D-10: Will give results but only after initial struggle, difficulties etc. A word on the relationship between the rasi and amsa charts becomes necessary here. Rasi should be given more importance than amsa generally in any context. Normally what is not promised by the rasi chart cannot be given by an amsa chart. The amsa chart has to support the rasi chart for full fructification or the full potential of the rasi chart to be realized. And while the rasi indicates `heaps' of things, the amsa indicates specific aspects of life only. • D-10 trik lords (6,8,12) connected to D-1 Lagna or 10th house: obstacles or difficulties with respect to career. Note: All connections by aspect, conjunction and placement are to be considered. 8. Indicators of a good career or rise in career in the Dasamsa: • Strong 10th House in D-10: Status, recognition and great achievements • Planets in the 1st or 1st lord in D-10 • Planets in Kendras and Trikonas: Good With the above principles in mind, let us see how one can see the rise and fall in career life through both the dasa and transits using the rasi and dasamsa charts. Remember that all results indicated by a planet in the rasi and amsa chart come to fructification in their dasa, antardasa and sensitizing transits. With this in mind, we will cover the basics now. Planets in Kendras: Being Vishnu sthanas, planets in Kendras are auspicious. The angles as explained in the beginning itself are very important. • Even malefics in Kendras are not bad for career. While this is obvious with the 10th house, it is indirectly obvious with the 7th (being 10th from 10th). • Planets in the 4th are also very good for career, but indicate the unconscious workings of the mind (in the 4th) being externalized in the 10th by aspect. Malefics in the 4th indicate some sort of conflict or insecurity or lack of proper support at a domestic level or deeper level (maybe even related to some disturbance or disharmony at home with parents or with parents, especially mother), and this being either unconsciously compensated in the opposite house of the tenth (remember the principle of polarity) or being externalized or very rarely even resolved in the svadharma area. Quite often it may just be that the individual is using more energy in the 10th as an escape, in the attempt to draw away from the concerns of home or even as a compensation mechanism in dealing with the deep rooted insecurities. Remember that the tenth house symbolizes those energies that counterbalance the fourth and draw one away from its concern. • Dasa lord or antardasa lord getting connected to the D-10 Lagna lord or D-10 tenth lord leads to a rise in career. Planets in Trikonas: Being Lakshmi sthanas, they symbolize prosperity. • Planets in trikonas in D-10 are good. • Planets in or lords of 1,5,9 are good for career. Planets in Trika houses: Trik houses of 6,8 and 12 signify struggles, obstacles and difficulties. • Planets in 6, 8, 12 in D-10 indicate difficulties, tensions and worries with respect to career especially if they are unaspected by lagna lord or 10th lord. • If aspected by the LL or 10L, initial difficulties followed by relief. • When the Trika lords of D-10 are related to the 10th house or 10th lord, the dasa or antardasa may be tough. Here again relations are by placement as well as aspects. • Malefics in Trika houses are better than benefics here (in the dasamsa only) . In the above context, benefics are Strong Moon (Sukla paksa or bright half, especially fewdays before and after full moon), Jupiter, Venus and Mercury without malefic company or influence. The Sun, Saturn, Rahu, Ketu and weak Moon are considered malefic. Can the same principles be applied to analyze the antardasa lord with respect to the dasa lord? Why not? So antardasa lord in 6,8,12 from Dasa lord in D-10 indicates difficulties and tensions. Modifications are as follows. • If the antardasa lord is not in 6,8,12 from dasa lord in the rasi chart, and is well placed or • If he is in the 4th or 10th in the rasi chart, then initial difficulties which are overcome and eventual success. Planets in the Upachayas: Upachayas are houses of growth or improvement. Planets in these houses i.e. 3, 6, 10, 11 generally give good results eventually but with hard work and struggle. • The benefics are good in the 10th and 11th, they are fine in the 3rd, and may not be good in the 6th. • Malefics in the Upachayas are good generally. Finally we will consider the transits now. Transits and the Dasamsa: Mark the following planets. • Planets in the 10th and 10th lord in D-10 • Lagna lord and lagna in D-10 • 10th house and lord in rasi These planets become the promittors for career matters. Observe their transits. Keep the following in mind. • Planets in the 10th in D-10 can trigger a rise in career or some favorable event with respect to career while transiting over the D-10 lagna or or lagna lord. • D-10 tenth lord's transit over the rasi 10th house or rasi 10th lord can also trigger some favorable event or rise in career, especially during the dasa or antardasa of such lords. • Likewise observe the transits of all the promittors for career over the sensitive points (with respect to career) Here too one should remember that dasas and transits should concur with each other, which they most often do. When an astrologer analyses a chart from all the above mentioned angles, she/he will be able to categorize the various periods as follows. A planet is benefic in the rasi and well placed in the dasamsa: Rise in career, achievements in public life, position, honor and great results (mahat phalam) A planet is benefic in the rasi but badly placed in the dasamsa: Will give results, but after great struggle A planet owns a malefic house (3, 6, 8, 12) in benefic places in dasamsa: Maleficience gets greatly reduced, but with respect to career matter only. A planet is bad in both the rasi and dasamsa: Fall, disgrace, or suspension etc vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan" <sudhar108> wrote: > Hare Rama Krishna > > Dear Rajesh, > > My comments follow after yours- > > > > Well I think we are both presenting different approaches which have > > got mixed up here. I think its perfectly OK to go back and forth > > between Rashi and Divisional chart, since the Vimshottari Dashas > > apply to positions of various planets simultaneously in Rashi and > > Divisional charts. > > Sudharsan - Well, Vimsottari Dashas do apply commonly across all > charts, but when a question arises about a specific area of life, > static analysis has to be performed on the divisional chart > concerned.A common dasha does not preclude the need for specific > static analysis of a D-chart nor does it indicate that we need to go > back and forth between Rashi and D-charts. > > > Also the Divisional charts cannot be studied > > independently, since they are merely projections of the planetary > > positions in Rashi Chart and hence they are linked to each other. > So > > that's the reason for my approach.That's the standard technique > used > > everywhere (various books, articles) and so I used it. > > > > Sudharsan - I beg to differ.While I agree that the positions in D- > Charts are derived from the Rashi chart, each Varga is a microsopic > view of that particular area of life and can definitely be studied > independently if the querent poses a problem in that area.I follow > the books, tapes and the methodologies given by the Gurus here and > have experienced very good results in doing so and have seen great > analysis and predictions being made with independent analysis of a > Varga. > > > > Your considerations about planetary positions in D-10 chart w.r.t > AL > > are definitely correct but then you have to compute D-10 Narayana > > Dasa for timing issues . Narayana Dasa/Antardasa of 6th/8th/12th > > Rashis in D-10 chart can indicate changes in career and among these > > three Rashis, the ones which are placed in favourable position from > > AL (D10) will give better job changes than others. Also these > > concepts are very experimental and require other considerations > like > > the AL Lord's strength, GL, HL etc., . But, with all due regards, > you > > have used vimshottari dasa and positions w.r.t. AL and hence you > > reached different results. I am not sure if we can do timing like > > this. Can we mix Vimshottari Dasa and N-dasa concepts? > > Sudharsan - The techniques of using AL to time job changes are not > specific to Narayana Dasa.AL,HL,GL are special lagnas and we use them > to arrive at conclusions about status, power and finances > respectively.Al is preferred here because of a fall in status because > of the job loss and its effect on the material side of life. So > static analysis using AL can definitely be used to time events using > Vimsottari Dasas. > > > > > > On the otherhand I just stayed within the much safer/familiar > > territory of V-dasa concepts and used the standard rule that 5th > Lord > > (or planets connected to 5th lord by conjunction, aspect or > > disposition)pratyantar-dasa gives job changes(which may or may not > be > > favourable from AL position) ...so you may be right about moon > being > > in 6th from AL in D-10, but does this rule apply to Moon pratyantar- > > dasa or Cancer N-dasa? That's the confusion here. Hope the Gurus > > clarify it. > > Sudharsan - I have answered this question in the previous paragraph. > > > I think we both agree on afflicted Dhankaraka Jupiter's position. I > > have no idea about curses. > > > > > Hare Krishna > > Sudharsan > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan" > > <sudhar108> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna Dear Rajesh, Very often we come across people who are very good in studies but really fail in professional life OTOH there are many who dont excel in studies but do very well in their careers. These diffrences are not very obvious from the Rasi chart but when we examine individual D- 24 and D-10 it becomes clear.Now, we may see badly placed planets in the Rasi chart but the person may be doing very well in some spheres of life while failing miserably in others. The acid test for this is the case of twins.If they are born only a few minutes apart the rasi chart offers the same level of information but the difference in the karma of these two very individual people can only be delineated via divisional charts.In such a case an astrologer will really be looking only at D-10 to diffrentiate the career of these twins.Looking at the Rasi chart would be futile. Iam not saying that whatever has been taught here is the way to go there are always alternatives, but i would certainly disagree with anyone who says that its wrong because I have seen Sanjayji, Narasimha and other Gurus use just the D chart to predict events.So before you dismiss the theory that a specific part of life can be independently assessed by a D-Chart please try it. Following a certain set of rules or not reminds me of an email from Sanjayji that I received a while ago.He wrote that i must surrender my adhikara to Sri Jagannatha and only then will I be able to see the chart and even apply the right rules. It took me a while to understand the wisdom in those words. So I did make an attempt to listen to my intuition while maintaining some amount of manthra sadhana.That greatly helped.So this science is just not about rules, its about allowing ourselves to be guided by Sri Jagannatha in executing our Karma as Jyotishas. Having said that I thank you for this discussion and lets wait and see what the Gurus have to say if at all. Hare Krishna Sudharsan vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria" <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote: > Dear Sudharsan, > > Well I have included some quotes by an article on Dasamsa by Dr Satya > Prakash(he posted it here long time back), in which he clearly > indicates various relationships between D-1 and D-10 chart. So > Divisional charts cannot be studied independently. While each varga > may be a microscopic view of a particular area of life, yet it is > not independent from the Rashi Chart. Suppose if you see a strong > 10th Lord in Rashi chart and a good D-10 chart, and the astrologer is > focussed on D-10 chart only, then that's a special case. But if > positions of various planets are weak iN Rashi chart, then how can D- > 10 chart positions improve the status of the native? The native is > always subject to Rashi chart's combinations. > So everone goes back and forth between Rashi and D-10 charts. These > are not just my theories or assumptions. > > Regards > Rajesh > _________________ > QUOTES FROM ARTICLE ON D-10 BY DR SATYA PRAKASH: > Strength of a chart generally with respect to Career: > > The following factors indicate a good career, public life, > recognition of one's work etc: > > • D-1 Lagna lord in D-10 lagna > • D-1 LL in good houses in D-10 (Kendras, Trikonas, 2,11) > • D-1 10th lord or planets in the 10th (of rasi) well placed in > D-10 > > > What do we mean by well placed? > 1. In Kendra, Trikona, 2, or 11 and > 2. No malefic conjunctions or aspects > > Now what do we mean by malefic? Or benefic for that matter? We will > come back to this point later. > > Is Mars a malefic in this context, with respect to career? Definitely > not. Remember that the so called malefics can give strength, > resilience, perseverance and the capacity to work hard, like an > asura. In fact on the overall it is the malefics that give more scope > for free-will, while the benefics tell more about your previous > merits (poorva punya). Remember malefics in 3,6,10,11? They are most > well placed in the Upachaya houses. > > > Resuming the topic where we left it, the factors that indicate a good > career life on the overall are: > > > • D-10 lagna lord well placed in D-1 > • D-10 10th lord well placed in D-1 > • D-10 9L or 11L or 2L in benefic places in D-1 > > In other words, if a planet is well placed in both D-1 and D-10, it > indicates rise in career. > > But what about other conditions? What if a planet is well placed in > one chart, but badly placed in the other? The modifications are as > follows: > > • D1 lords of 3,6,8,12 in benefic places in D-10: Maleficience > gets reduced > • D-1 benefic lords (lords of 1,5,9) badly placed in D-10: Will > give results but only after initial struggle, difficulties etc. > > > A word on the relationship between the rasi and amsa charts becomes > necessary here. Rasi should be given more importance than amsa > generally in any context. Normally what is not promised by the rasi > chart cannot be given by an amsa chart. The amsa chart has to support > the rasi chart for full fructification or the full potential of the > rasi chart to be realized. And while the rasi indicates `heaps' of > things, the amsa indicates specific aspects of life only. > > • D-10 trik lords (6,8,12) connected to D-1 Lagna or 10th > house: obstacles or difficulties with respect to career. > > Note: All connections by aspect, conjunction and placement are to be > considered. > > > 8. > Indicators of a good career or rise in career in the Dasamsa: > > • Strong 10th House in D-10: Status, recognition and great > achievements > • Planets in the 1st or 1st lord in D-10 > • Planets in Kendras and Trikonas: Good > > > With the above principles in mind, let us see how one can see the > rise and fall in career life through both the dasa and transits using > the rasi and dasamsa charts. Remember that all results indicated by a > planet in the rasi and amsa chart come to fructification in their > dasa, antardasa and sensitizing transits. With this in mind, we will > cover the basics now. > > > Planets in Kendras: Being Vishnu sthanas, planets in Kendras are > auspicious. The angles as explained in the beginning itself are very > important. > > • Even malefics in Kendras are not bad for career. While this > is obvious with the 10th house, it is indirectly obvious with the 7th > (being 10th from 10th). > > • Planets in the 4th are also very good for career, but > indicate the unconscious workings of the mind (in the 4th) being > externalized in the 10th by aspect. Malefics in the 4th indicate some > sort of conflict or insecurity or lack of proper support at a > domestic level or deeper level (maybe even related to some > disturbance or disharmony at home with parents or with parents, > especially mother), and this being either unconsciously compensated > in the opposite house of the tenth (remember the principle of > polarity) or being externalized or very rarely even resolved in the > svadharma area. Quite often it may just be that the individual is > using more energy in the 10th as an escape, in the attempt to draw > away from the concerns of home or even as a compensation mechanism in > dealing with the deep rooted insecurities. Remember that the tenth > house symbolizes those energies that counterbalance the fourth and > draw one away from its concern. > > > • Dasa lord or antardasa lord getting connected to the D-10 > Lagna lord or D-10 tenth lord leads to a rise in career. > > Planets in Trikonas: Being Lakshmi sthanas, they symbolize > prosperity. > > • Planets in trikonas in D-10 are good. > • Planets in or lords of 1,5,9 are good for career. > > Planets in Trika houses: Trik houses of 6,8 and 12 signify > struggles, obstacles and difficulties. > > > • Planets in 6, 8, 12 in D-10 indicate difficulties, tensions > and worries with respect to career especially if they are unaspected > by lagna lord or 10th lord. > • If aspected by the LL or 10L, initial difficulties followed > by relief. > • When the Trika lords of D-10 are related to the 10th house or > 10th lord, the dasa or antardasa may be tough. Here again relations > are by placement as well as aspects. > • Malefics in Trika houses are better than benefics here (in > the dasamsa only) . > > > In the above context, benefics are Strong Moon (Sukla paksa or bright > half, especially fewdays before and after full moon), Jupiter, Venus > and Mercury without malefic company or influence. The Sun, Saturn, > Rahu, Ketu and weak Moon are considered malefic. > > > Can the same principles be applied to analyze the antardasa lord with > respect to the dasa lord? Why not? So antardasa lord in 6,8,12 from > Dasa lord in D-10 indicates difficulties and tensions. Modifications > are as follows. > > • If the antardasa lord is not in 6,8,12 from dasa lord in the > rasi chart, and is well placed or > • If he is in the 4th or 10th in the rasi chart, then initial > difficulties which are overcome and eventual success. > > > > Planets in the Upachayas: Upachayas are houses of growth or > improvement. Planets in these houses i.e. 3, 6, 10, 11 generally give > good results eventually but with hard work and struggle. > > • The benefics are good in the 10th and 11th, they are fine in > the 3rd, and may not be good in the 6th. > • Malefics in the Upachayas are good generally. > > > Finally we will consider the transits now. > > Transits and the Dasamsa: > > Mark the following planets. > > • Planets in the 10th and 10th lord in D-10 > • Lagna lord and lagna in D-10 > • 10th house and lord in rasi > > These planets become the promittors for career matters. > > Observe their transits. Keep the following in mind. > > • Planets in the 10th in D-10 can trigger a rise in career or > some favorable event with respect to career while transiting over the > D-10 lagna or or lagna lord. > • D-10 tenth lord's transit over the rasi 10th house or rasi > 10th lord can also trigger some favorable event or rise in career, > especially during the dasa or antardasa of such lords. > • Likewise observe the transits of all the promittors for > career over the sensitive points (with respect to career) > > Here too one should remember that dasas and transits should concur > with each other, which they most often do. > > > When an astrologer analyses a chart from all the above mentioned > angles, she/he will be able to categorize the various periods as > follows. > > A planet is benefic in the rasi and well placed in the dasamsa: Rise > in career, achievements in public life, position, honor and great > results (mahat phalam) > > A planet is benefic in the rasi but badly placed in the dasamsa: Will > give results, but after great struggle > > A planet owns a malefic house (3, 6, 8, 12) in benefic places in > dasamsa: Maleficience gets greatly reduced, but with respect to > career matter only. > > A planet is bad in both the rasi and dasamsa: Fall, disgrace, or > suspension etc vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan" > <sudhar108> wrote: > > Hare Rama Krishna > > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > > My comments follow after yours- > > > > > > > Well I think we are both presenting different approaches which > have > > > got mixed up here. I think its perfectly OK to go back and forth > > > between Rashi and Divisional chart, since the Vimshottari Dashas > > > apply to positions of various planets simultaneously in Rashi and > > > Divisional charts. > > > > Sudharsan - Well, Vimsottari Dashas do apply commonly across all > > charts, but when a question arises about a specific area of life, > > static analysis has to be performed on the divisional chart > > concerned.A common dasha does not preclude the need for specific > > static analysis of a D-chart nor does it indicate that we need to > go > > back and forth between Rashi and D-charts. > > > > > > Also the Divisional charts cannot be studied > > > independently, since they are merely projections of the > planetary > > > positions in Rashi Chart and hence they are linked to each other. > > So > > > that's the reason for my approach.That's the standard technique > > used > > > everywhere (various books, articles) and so I used it. > > > > > > > Sudharsan - I beg to differ.While I agree that the positions in D- > > Charts are derived from the Rashi chart, each Varga is a microsopic > > view of that particular area of life and can definitely be studied > > independently if the querent poses a problem in that area.I follow > > the books, tapes and the methodologies given by the Gurus here and > > have experienced very good results in doing so and have seen great > > analysis and predictions being made with independent analysis of a > > Varga. > > > > > > > Your considerations about planetary positions in D-10 chart w.r.t > > AL > > > are definitely correct but then you have to compute D-10 Narayana > > > Dasa for timing issues . Narayana Dasa/Antardasa of 6th/8th/12th > > > Rashis in D-10 chart can indicate changes in career and among > these > > > three Rashis, the ones which are placed in favourable position > from > > > AL (D10) will give better job changes than others. Also these > > > concepts are very experimental and require other considerations > > like > > > the AL Lord's strength, GL, HL etc., . But, with all due regards, > > you > > > have used vimshottari dasa and positions w.r.t. AL and hence you > > > reached different results. I am not sure if we can do timing like > > > this. Can we mix Vimshottari Dasa and N-dasa concepts? > > > > Sudharsan - The techniques of using AL to time job changes are not > > specific to Narayana Dasa.AL,HL,GL are special lagnas and we use > them > > to arrive at conclusions about status, power and finances > > respectively.Al is preferred here because of a fall in status > because > > of the job loss and its effect on the material side of life. So > > static analysis using AL can definitely be used to time events > using > > Vimsottari Dasas. > > > > > > > > > > > On the otherhand I just stayed within the much safer/familiar > > > territory of V-dasa concepts and used the standard rule that 5th > > Lord > > > (or planets connected to 5th lord by conjunction, aspect or > > > disposition)pratyantar-dasa gives job changes(which may or may > not > > be > > > favourable from AL position) ...so you may be right about moon > > being > > > in 6th from AL in D-10, but does this rule apply to Moon > pratyantar- > > > dasa or Cancer N-dasa? That's the confusion here. Hope the Gurus > > > clarify it. > > > > Sudharsan - I have answered this question in the previous > paragraph. > > > > > I think we both agree on afflicted Dhankaraka Jupiter's position. > I > > > have no idea about curses. > > > > > > > > > > Hare Krishna > > > > Sudharsan > > > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Sudharsan Srinivasan" > > > <sudhar108> wrote: Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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