Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. This would mean that the Aspect is from 0 deg Gem to 30 deg Gem. WHICH of THESE 3 is the correct way of considering the Aspect SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Dear Sridar, I find that the simplist and most accurate way to use planetary aspects is to actually calculate out the value of the aspect as shown in Brihat Parashara and Sri Pati. With computers these days there is no reason to approximate aspects any more. I demonstrate this extensively in my Core Yogas book. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net sridhar k [kopparsa ] Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:20 AMvedic astrologySubject: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts I was going thru message 10450 by PVR on Yogas. I request the Gurus to guide me on 1 or 2 points in relation to YOGAS. 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. This would mean that the Aspect is from 0 deg Gem to 30 deg Gem. WHICH of THESE 3 is the correct way of considering the Aspect SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 19, 2003 Report Share Posted June 19, 2003 Dear Shridhar, About Brihatjataka, which shloka are you refering to? Varahaihira gives grahadrishties in Grahayonibhedaadhyaaya shloka 13. No mention of degrees within which drishties are applicable is given. In the shloka he gives 7th house aspects for all grahas and the regular special full aspects for Jupiter(5 and 9) Mars(4 and 8) and Saturn (3 and 10) in addition to their 7th house aspects. If your copy has a different shloka, I would like to learn about it. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts I was going thru message 10450 by PVR on Yogas. I request the Gurus to guide me on 1 or 2 points in relation to YOGAS. 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. This would mean that the Aspect is from 0 deg Gem to 30 deg Gem. WHICH of THESE 3 is the correct way of considering the Aspect SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 6/10/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 I have given reference to the English Translation of The Brihat Jatajaka. On page 21, in para 13. (I presume it refers to 13th stanza) the translation is as below: I quote ; "13. All the planets aspect the 3rd and 10th houses with a quarter sight; the 5th and 9th houses with half a sight, the 4th and 8th houses with three-quarters of sight, and the 7th house with full sight: but Saturn aspects he 3rd and 10th houses with full sight; Jupiter aspects the 5th and 9th houses with full sight, and Mars the 4th and 8th housess with full sight. "" Then Notes below this explain how the house sight is determined. I quote :" Suppose A to be a pont in the eccliptic occupied by an aspecting planet; divide the eccliptic into 12 equal parts of 30 deg. each, beginning from A. So the 12 points of division will be those respectively marked by A,30,60,90,120,150,180,210,240,270,300,and 330 and for purposes of planetary aspects, these points are respectivelythe middle points of the 1st,2nd,3rd, 4th etc., to 12th houses. So a planet at A aspects with a quarter sight the middle points of the 3rd and 10th houses, i.e., the points marked 60 and 270 respectively; similarly it aspects with a half sight points marked 120 and 240; with three-quarters sight points marked 90 and 210; and with full sights points marked 180. The aspects extend to 15 (deg) on either side of the points noted above. The same remark applies to special aspects of Mars,Jupiter, and Saturn " >From this I conclude that according to the translator, any Planet in say 16 deg of Aries, will have a 7th house aspect on a pont 18 deg+180=198 This aspect will be from 3 deg to 213 deg. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Shridhar, About Brihatjataka, which shloka are you refering to? Varahaihira gives grahadrishties in Grahayonibhedaadhyaaya shloka 13. No mention of degrees within which drishties are applicable is given. In the shloka he gives 7th house aspects for all grahas and the regular special full aspects for Jupiter(5 and 9) Mars(4 and 8) and Saturn (3 and 10) in addition to their 7th house aspects. If your copy has a different shloka, I would like to learn about it. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts I was going thru message 10450 by PVR on Yogas. I request the Gurus to guide me on 1 or 2 points in relation to YOGAS. 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. This would mean that the Aspect is from 0 deg Gem to 30 deg Gem. WHICH of THESE 3 is the correct way of considering the Aspect SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 6/10/03Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 20, 2003 Report Share Posted June 20, 2003 Dear Sridhar, Could you indicate the translator and which edition amongst those available has he translated from? Paarashara does mention Ekapada, tripad etc. drishties and also Rasi drishties. He also indicates how to calculate the value of an aspect based on difference of degrees between the aspecting and aspected planets. But 15 degrees either side is some thing new, hence the request. Of course astrologers of my generation usually consider Rasi to Rasi drishty. That is say Sun in say 3 degrees Aries would continue to aspect Jupiter in say 29 degrees Libra. We assess the strengrth of drishty from the distance of the planet from Bhava madhya of Lagna, nearer the stronger. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Friday, June 20, 2003 1:17 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Shree Chandrashekhar I have given reference to the English Translation of The Brihat Jatajaka. On page 21, in para 13. (I presume it refers to 13th stanza) the translation is as below: I quote ; "13. All the planets aspect the 3rd and 10th houses with a quarter sight; the 5th and 9th houses with half a sight, the 4th and 8th houses with three-quarters of sight, and the 7th house with full sight: but Saturn aspects he 3rd and 10th houses with full sight; Jupiter aspects the 5th and 9th houses with full sight, and Mars the 4th and 8th housess with full sight. "" Then Notes below this explain how the house sight is determined. I quote :" Suppose A to be a pont in the eccliptic occupied by an aspecting planet; divide the eccliptic into 12 equal parts of 30 deg. each, beginning from A. So the 12 points of division will be those respectively marked by A,30,60,90,120,150,180,210,240,270,300,and 330 and for purposes of planetary aspects, these points are respectivelythe middle points of the 1st,2nd,3rd, 4th etc., to 12th houses. So a planet at A aspects with a quarter sight the middle points of the 3rd and 10th houses, i.e., the points marked 60 and 270 respectively; similarly it aspects with a half sight points marked 120 and 240; with three-quarters sight points marked 90 and 210; and with full sights points marked 180. The aspects extend to 15 (deg) on either side of the points noted above. The same remark applies to special aspects of Mars,Jupiter, and Saturn " >From this I conclude that according to the translator, any Planet in say 16 deg of Aries, will have a 7th house aspect on a pont 18 deg+180=198 This aspect will be from 3 deg to 213 deg. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Shridhar, About Brihatjataka, which shloka are you refering to? Varahaihira gives grahadrishties in Grahayonibhedaadhyaaya shloka 13. No mention of degrees within which drishties are applicable is given. In the shloka he gives 7th house aspects for all grahas and the regular special full aspects for Jupiter(5 and 9) Mars(4 and 8) and Saturn (3 and 10) in addition to their 7th house aspects. If your copy has a different shloka, I would like to learn about it. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts I was going thru message 10450 by PVR on Yogas. I request the Gurus to guide me on 1 or 2 points in relation to YOGAS. 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. This would mean that the Aspect is from 0 deg Gem to 30 deg Gem. WHICH of THESE 3 is the correct way of considering the Aspect SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 I quote: "Varahmira's work on the former, known as Brihat Samhita, is now being translated by me, and his astronomical work is known as Panchassiddhanta, It was long supposed to have been lost. Fortunately , two copies of this rare work were recently discovered, and they were purchased by the Bombay Government. M. Thibaut Phil. Dr., is now preparing an English translation of same assisted by Pandit Suddakara. " This is written in Jan 1977 There has been a very good responce from the learned Guru,s but my doubts remain I would appreciate if Guru Narsinhagaru, gives his views on these matters, and the Method he has adopted while creating his very popular soft wares.Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sridhar, Could you indicate the translator and which edition amongst those available has he translated from? Paarashara does mention Ekapada, tripad etc. drishties and also Rasi drishties. He also indicates how to calculate the value of an aspect based on difference of degrees between the aspecting and aspected planets. But 15 degrees either side is some thing new, hence the request. Of course astrologers of my generation usually consider Rasi to Rasi drishty. That is say Sun in say 3 degrees Aries would continue to aspect Jupiter in say 29 degrees Libra. We assess the strengrth of drishty from the distance of the planet from Bhava madhya of Lagna, nearer the stronger. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Friday, June 20, 2003 1:17 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Shree Chandrashekhar I have given reference to the English Translation of The Brihat Jatajaka. On page 21, in para 13. (I presume it refers to 13th stanza) the translation is as below: I quote ; "13. All the planets aspect the 3rd and 10th houses with a quarter sight; the 5th and 9th houses with half a sight, the 4th and 8th houses with three-quarters of sight, and the 7th house with full sight: but Saturn aspects he 3rd and 10th houses with full sight; Jupiter aspects the 5th and 9th houses with full sight, and Mars the 4th and 8th housess with full sight. "" Then Notes below this explain how the house sight is determined. I quote :" Suppose A to be a pont in the eccliptic occupied by an aspecting planet; divide the eccliptic into 12 equal parts of 30 deg. each, beginning from A. So the 12 points of division will be those respectively marked by A,30,60,90,120,150,180,210,240,270,300,and 330 and for purposes of planetary aspects, these points are respectivelythe middle points of the 1st,2nd,3rd, 4th etc., to 12th houses. So a planet at A aspects with a quarter sight the middle points of the 3rd and 10th houses, i.e., the points marked 60 and 270 respectively; similarly it aspects with a half sight points marked 120 and 240; with three-quarters sight points marked 90 and 210; and with full sights points marked 180. The aspects extend to 15 (deg) on either side of the points noted above. The same remark applies to special aspects of Mars,Jupiter, and Saturn " >From this I conclude that according to the translator, any Planet in say 16 deg of Aries, will have a 7th house aspect on a pont 18 deg+180=198 This aspect will be from 3 deg to 213 deg. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Shridhar, About Brihatjataka, which shloka are you refering to? Varahaihira gives grahadrishties in Grahayonibhedaadhyaaya shloka 13. No mention of degrees within which drishties are applicable is given. In the shloka he gives 7th house aspects for all grahas and the regular special full aspects for Jupiter(5 and 9) Mars(4 and 8) and Saturn (3 and 10) in addition to their 7th house aspects. If your copy has a different shloka, I would like to learn about it. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts I was going thru message 10450 by PVR on Yogas. I request the Gurus to guide me on 1 or 2 points in relation to YOGAS. 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. This would mean that the Aspect is from 0 deg Gem to 30 deg Gem. WHICH of THESE 3 is the correct way of considering the Aspect SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted June 21, 2003 Report Share Posted June 21, 2003 Dear Sridhar, I asked as in your original mail you said the reference is from Brihat jataka. Anyway, Brihat Samhita comentary by M.R. Bhat is already in print. It is a great treatise it also deals with various natural phenomenon like weather predictions and other matters. The original shlokas are also available on the net. Panchasiddhantika is ,if I am not mistaken, not about prediction. If you kindly give me text of the shloka, reffered about 15 degrees angle,I will be oblidged. Regards, Chandrashekhar. ---- Dear Siri Chandrasekhar I quote: "Varahmira's work on the former, known as Brihat Samhita, is now being translated by me, and his astronomical work is known as Panchassiddhanta, It was long supposed to have been lost. Fortunately , two copies of this rare work were recently discovered, and they were purchased by the Bombay Government. M. Thibaut Phil. Dr., is now preparing an English translation of same assisted by Pandit Suddakara. " This is written in Jan 1977 There has been a very good responce from the learned Guru,s but my doubts remain I would appreciate if Guru Narsinhagaru, gives his views on these matters, and the Method he has adopted while creating his very popular soft wares.Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sridhar, Could you indicate the translator and which edition amongst those available has he translated from? Paarashara does mention Ekapada, tripad etc. drishties and also Rasi drishties. He also indicates how to calculate the value of an aspect based on difference of degrees between the aspecting and aspected planets. But 15 degrees either side is some thing new, hence the request. Of course astrologers of my generation usually consider Rasi to Rasi drishty. That is say Sun in say 3 degrees Aries would continue to aspect Jupiter in say 29 degrees Libra. We assess the strengrth of drishty from the distance of the planet from Bhava madhya of Lagna, nearer the stronger. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Friday, June 20, 2003 1:17 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Shree Chandrashekhar I have given reference to the English Translation of The Brihat Jatajaka. On page 21, in para 13. (I presume it refers to 13th stanza) the translation is as below: I quote ; "13. All the planets aspect the 3rd and 10th houses with a quarter sight; the 5th and 9th houses with half a sight, the 4th and 8th houses with three-quarters of sight, and the 7th house with full sight: but Saturn aspects he 3rd and 10th houses with full sight; Jupiter aspects the 5th and 9th houses with full sight, and Mars the 4th and 8th housess with full sight. "" Then Notes below this explain how the house sight is determined. I quote :" Suppose A to be a pont in the eccliptic occupied by an aspecting planet; divide the eccliptic into 12 equal parts of 30 deg. each, beginning from A. So the 12 points of division will be those respectively marked by A,30,60,90,120,150,180,210,240,270,300,and 330 and for purposes of planetary aspects, these points are respectivelythe middle points of the 1st,2nd,3rd, 4th etc., to 12th houses. So a planet at A aspects with a quarter sight the middle points of the 3rd and 10th houses, i.e., the points marked 60 and 270 respectively; similarly it aspects with a half sight points marked 120 and 240; with three-quarters sight points marked 90 and 210; and with full sights points marked 180. The aspects extend to 15 (deg) on either side of the points noted above. The same remark applies to special aspects of Mars,Jupiter, and Saturn " >From this I conclude that according to the translator, any Planet in say 16 deg of Aries, will have a 7th house aspect on a pont 18 deg+180=198 This aspect will be from 3 deg to 213 deg. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Shridhar, About Brihatjataka, which shloka are you refering to? Varahaihira gives grahadrishties in Grahayonibhedaadhyaaya shloka 13. No mention of degrees within which drishties are applicable is given. In the shloka he gives 7th house aspects for all grahas and the regular special full aspects for Jupiter(5 and 9) Mars(4 and 8) and Saturn (3 and 10) in addition to their 7th house aspects. If your copy has a different shloka, I would like to learn about it. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts I was going thru message 10450 by PVR on Yogas. I request the Gurus to guide me on 1 or 2 points in relation to YOGAS. 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. This would mean that the Aspect is from 0 deg Gem to 30 deg Gem. WHICH of THESE 3 is the correct way of considering the Aspect SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 6/10/03Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted June 22, 2003 Report Share Posted June 22, 2003 In the Book I have, the text of the sloka is not reproduced. Only an Engish Translation is there, and the Notes are there. I appreciate the reply of Shri Earnest Wilhem. His logic on aspects is very good. The method of calculation of the strength of the aspect also is a rational one. A similar method is prescribed for the Residual Strength in the Shadbalas (B V Raman). If one accepts the logic that at 150 the stregth is ZERO and at 180 the Srength of the 7th house site is full, and we calculate the stregth ffor the intermediate degrees on this basis, the stregth of the aspect will be 50 percent at 150+15 degrees. If one deems an aspect effective if it has atleast 50 percent stregth, then I beleve, the simple method of taking the aspect effective within the range of 15 degrees on either side of the exact degree, could be justified. Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 ; Dear Sridhar, I asked as in your original mail you said the reference is from Brihat jataka. Anyway, Brihat Samhita comentary by M.R. Bhat is already in print. It is a great treatise it also deals with various natural phenomenon like weather predictions and other matters. The original shlokas are also available on the net. Panchasiddhantika is ,if I am not mistaken, not about prediction. If you kindly give me text of the shloka, reffered about 15 degrees angle,I will be oblidged. Regards, Chandrashekhar. ---- Dear Siri Chandrasekhar I quote: "Varahmira's work on the former, known as Brihat Samhita, is now being translated by me, and his astronomical work is known as Panchassiddhanta, It was long supposed to have been lost. Fortunately , two copies of this rare work were recently discovered, and they were purchased by the Bombay Government. M. Thibaut Phil. Dr., is now preparing an English translation of same assisted by Pandit Suddakara. " This is written in Jan 1977 There has been a very good responce from the learned Guru,s but my doubts remain I would appreciate if Guru Narsinhagaru, gives his views on these matters, and the Method he has adopted while creating his very popular soft wares.Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sridhar, Could you indicate the translator and which edition amongst those available has he translated from? Paarashara does mention Ekapada, tripad etc. drishties and also Rasi drishties. He also indicates how to calculate the value of an aspect based on difference of degrees between the aspecting and aspected planets. But 15 degrees either side is some thing new, hence the request. Of course astrologers of my generation usually consider Rasi to Rasi drishty. That is say Sun in say 3 degrees Aries would continue to aspect Jupiter in say 29 degrees Libra. We assess the strengrth of drishty from the distance of the planet from Bhava madhya of Lagna, nearer the stronger. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Friday, June 20, 2003 1:17 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Shree Chandrashekhar I have given reference to the English Translation of The Brihat Jatajaka. On page 21, in para 13. (I presume it refers to 13th stanza) the translation is as below: I quote ; "13. All the planets aspect the 3rd and 10th houses with a quarter sight; the 5th and 9th houses with half a sight, the 4th and 8th houses with three-quarters of sight, and the 7th house with full sight: but Saturn aspects he 3rd and 10th houses with full sight; Jupiter aspects the 5th and 9th houses with full sight, and Mars the 4th and 8th housess with full sight. "" Then Notes below this explain how the house sight is determined. I quote :" Suppose A to be a pont in the eccliptic occupied by an aspecting planet; divide the eccliptic into 12 equal parts of 30 deg. each, beginning from A. So the 12 points of division will be those respectively marked by A,30,60,90,120,150,180,210,240,270,300,and 330 and for purposes of planetary aspects, these points are respectivelythe middle points of the 1st,2nd,3rd, 4th etc., to 12th houses. So a planet at A aspects with a quarter sight the middle points of the 3rd and 10th houses, i.e., the points marked 60 and 270 respectively; similarly it aspects with a half sight points marked 120 and 240; with three-quarters sight points marked 90 and 210; and with full sights points marked 180. The aspects extend to 15 (deg) on either side of the points noted above. The same remark applies to special aspects of Mars,Jupiter, and Saturn " >From this I conclude that according to the translator, any Planet in say 16 deg of Aries, will have a 7th house aspect on a pont 18 deg+180=198 This aspect will be from 3 deg to 213 deg. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Shridhar, About Brihatjataka, which shloka are you refering to? Varahaihira gives grahadrishties in Grahayonibhedaadhyaaya shloka 13. No mention of degrees within which drishties are applicable is given. In the shloka he gives 7th house aspects for all grahas and the regular special full aspects for Jupiter(5 and 9) Mars(4 and 8) and Saturn (3 and 10) in addition to their 7th house aspects. If your copy has a different shloka, I would like to learn about it. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts I was going thru message 10450 by PVR on Yogas. I request the Gurus to guide me on 1 or 2 points in relation to YOGAS. 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. 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Guest guest Posted June 22, 2003 Report Share Posted June 22, 2003 Dear Sridhar, etc. yes, once you calculate the aspects to thier virupa value of between 0 -60 the natural quesion arises as to when to consider an aspect on and when to consider it off- because it is almost always on to some degree. There is a reason, I believe, that Brihat Parashara gives Rasi aspects first and then gives many yogas and then only gives planetary aspects right before the Shadbala Chapter. There must also be a reason that the Sutra in Jaimini that gives the rasi aspects is one of the most difficult and cryptic Sutras in the entire text, yet it is the one key sutra over which there is and has never been any controversy. Here is the Sutra- try to figure out how anyone got the rasi aspects from this one, and how everyone agreed: 1.1.2. Abhipasyanti rikshaani paarsvabhe ca. abhi- to, towards, into, over, upon, in front of. pasyanti- they are seeing. rikshaani- Nom. pl. constellations. paarsva- side, flank, the side of any square. bhe- Loc. sing. rasi. ca- both, and, but. The rasis are seeing in front, but at the side rasi. or it can be read thus: The rasis are seeing in front, and at the side, both. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net sridhar k [kopparsa ] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 7:22 AMvedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Chandrasekhar In the Book I have, the text of the sloka is not reproduced. Only an Engish Translation is there, and the Notes are there. I appreciate the reply of Shri Earnest Wilhem. His logic on aspects is very good. The method of calculation of the strength of the aspect also is a rational one. A similar method is prescribed for the Residual Strength in the Shadbalas (B V Raman). If one accepts the logic that at 150 the stregth is ZERO and at 180 the Srength of the 7th house site is full, and we calculate the stregth ffor the intermediate degrees on this basis, the stregth of the aspect will be 50 percent at 150+15 degrees. If one deems an aspect effective if it has atleast 50 percent stregth, then I beleve, the simple method of taking the aspect effective within the range of 15 degrees on either side of the exact degree, could be justified. Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 ; Dear Sridhar, I asked as in your original mail you said the reference is from Brihat jataka. Anyway, Brihat Samhita comentary by M.R. Bhat is already in print. It is a great treatise it also deals with various natural phenomenon like weather predictions and other matters. The original shlokas are also available on the net. Panchasiddhantika is ,if I am not mistaken, not about prediction. If you kindly give me text of the shloka, reffered about 15 degrees angle,I will be oblidged. Regards, Chandrashekhar. ---- Dear Siri Chandrasekhar I quote: "Varahmira's work on the former, known as Brihat Samhita, is now being translated by me, and his astronomical work is known as Panchassiddhanta, It was long supposed to have been lost. Fortunately , two copies of this rare work were recently discovered, and they were purchased by the Bombay Government. M. Thibaut Phil. Dr., is now preparing an English translation of same assisted by Pandit Suddakara. " This is written in Jan 1977 There has been a very good responce from the learned Guru,s but my doubts remain I would appreciate if Guru Narsinhagaru, gives his views on these matters, and the Method he has adopted while creating his very popular soft wares.Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sridhar, Could you indicate the translator and which edition amongst those available has he translated from? Paarashara does mention Ekapada, tripad etc. drishties and also Rasi drishties. He also indicates how to calculate the value of an aspect based on difference of degrees between the aspecting and aspected planets. But 15 degrees either side is some thing new, hence the request. Of course astrologers of my generation usually consider Rasi to Rasi drishty. That is say Sun in say 3 degrees Aries would continue to aspect Jupiter in say 29 degrees Libra. We assess the strengrth of drishty from the distance of the planet from Bhava madhya of Lagna, nearer the stronger. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Friday, June 20, 2003 1:17 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Shree Chandrashekhar I have given reference to the English Translation of The Brihat Jatajaka. On page 21, in para 13. (I presume it refers to 13th stanza) the translation is as below: I quote ; "13. All the planets aspect the 3rd and 10th houses with a quarter sight; the 5th and 9th houses with half a sight, the 4th and 8th houses with three-quarters of sight, and the 7th house with full sight: but Saturn aspects he 3rd and 10th houses with full sight; Jupiter aspects the 5th and 9th houses with full sight, and Mars the 4th and 8th housess with full sight. "" Then Notes below this explain how the house sight is determined. I quote :" Suppose A to be a pont in the eccliptic occupied by an aspecting planet; divide the eccliptic into 12 equal parts of 30 deg. each, beginning from A. So the 12 points of division will be those respectively marked by A,30,60,90,120,150,180,210,240,270,300,and 330 and for purposes of planetary aspects, these points are respectivelythe middle points of the 1st,2nd,3rd, 4th etc., to 12th houses. So a planet at A aspects with a quarter sight the middle points of the 3rd and 10th houses, i.e., the points marked 60 and 270 respectively; similarly it aspects with a half sight points marked 120 and 240; with three-quarters sight points marked 90 and 210; and with full sights points marked 180. The aspects extend to 15 (deg) on either side of the points noted above. The same remark applies to special aspects of Mars,Jupiter, and Saturn " >From this I conclude that according to the translator, any Planet in say 16 deg of Aries, will have a 7th house aspect on a pont 18 deg+180=198 This aspect will be from 3 deg to 213 deg. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Shridhar, About Brihatjataka, which shloka are you refering to? Varahaihira gives grahadrishties in Grahayonibhedaadhyaaya shloka 13. No mention of degrees within which drishties are applicable is given. In the shloka he gives 7th house aspects for all grahas and the regular special full aspects for Jupiter(5 and 9) Mars(4 and 8) and Saturn (3 and 10) in addition to their 7th house aspects. If your copy has a different shloka, I would like to learn about it. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts I was going thru message 10450 by PVR on Yogas. I request the Gurus to guide me on 1 or 2 points in relation to YOGAS. 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. This would mean that the Aspect is from 0 deg Gem to 30 deg Gem. WHICH of THESE 3 is the correct way of considering the Aspect SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted June 22, 2003 Report Share Posted June 22, 2003 Dear Sridhar, I agree that it stands to reason that if the 7th house aspect is to be taken as 180degrees aspect then proportionate strength of aspects can be derived. BPHS also mentions the method of arriving at strength of aspects, on somewhat similar lines. Jaimini does not give any method based on degrees but house signs. Prashnamarga and Prashna marga give the orbs of influence as much tighter and diferent for different planets but their aspects are different. Personally I think there is nothing wrong, if one follows the aryan method of asssuming drishty from Rasi to Rasi as Drig bala is only one of the factors amongst Shadabala. Aspects based on degrees are said to be later development with Tajik influence. Either way it is for an individual to decide,which method gives him/her results. I was just expressing my opinion on drishties. Regards, Chandrashekhar. ---- Dear Chandrasekhar In the Book I have, the text of the sloka is not reproduced. Only an Engish Translation is there, and the Notes are there. I appreciate the reply of Shri Earnest Wilhem. His logic on aspects is very good. The method of calculation of the strength of the aspect also is a rational one. A similar method is prescribed for the Residual Strength in the Shadbalas (B V Raman). If one accepts the logic that at 150 the stregth is ZERO and at 180 the Srength of the 7th house site is full, and we calculate the stregth ffor the intermediate degrees on this basis, the stregth of the aspect will be 50 percent at 150+15 degrees. If one deems an aspect effective if it has atleast 50 percent stregth, then I beleve, the simple method of taking the aspect effective within the range of 15 degrees on either side of the exact degree, could be justified. Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sridhar, I asked as in your original mail you said the reference is from Brihat jataka. Anyway, Brihat Samhita comentary by M.R. Bhat is already in print. It is a great treatise it also deals with various natural phenomenon like weather predictions and other matters. The original shlokas are also available on the net. Panchasiddhantika is ,if I am not mistaken, not about prediction. If you kindly give me text of the shloka, reffered about 15 degrees angle,I will be oblidged. Regards, Chandrashekhar. ---- Dear Siri Chandrasekhar I quote: "Varahmira's work on the former, known as Brihat Samhita, is now being translated by me, and his astronomical work is known as Panchassiddhanta, It was long supposed to have been lost. Fortunately , two copies of this rare work were recently discovered, and they were purchased by the Bombay Government. M. Thibaut Phil. Dr., is now preparing an English translation of same assisted by Pandit Suddakara. " This is written in Jan 1977 There has been a very good responce from the learned Guru,s but my doubts remain I would appreciate if Guru Narsinhagaru, gives his views on these matters, and the Method he has adopted while creating his very popular soft wares.Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sridhar, Could you indicate the translator and which edition amongst those available has he translated from? Paarashara does mention Ekapada, tripad etc. drishties and also Rasi drishties. He also indicates how to calculate the value of an aspect based on difference of degrees between the aspecting and aspected planets. But 15 degrees either side is some thing new, hence the request. Of course astrologers of my generation usually consider Rasi to Rasi drishty. That is say Sun in say 3 degrees Aries would continue to aspect Jupiter in say 29 degrees Libra. We assess the strengrth of drishty from the distance of the planet from Bhava madhya of Lagna, nearer the stronger. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Friday, June 20, 2003 1:17 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Shree Chandrashekhar I have given reference to the English Translation of The Brihat Jatajaka. On page 21, in para 13. (I presume it refers to 13th stanza) the translation is as below: I quote ; "13. All the planets aspect the 3rd and 10th houses with a quarter sight; the 5th and 9th houses with half a sight, the 4th and 8th houses with three-quarters of sight, and the 7th house with full sight: but Saturn aspects he 3rd and 10th houses with full sight; Jupiter aspects the 5th and 9th houses with full sight, and Mars the 4th and 8th housess with full sight. "" Then Notes below this explain how the house sight is determined. I quote :" Suppose A to be a pont in the eccliptic occupied by an aspecting planet; divide the eccliptic into 12 equal parts of 30 deg. each, beginning from A. So the 12 points of division will be those respectively marked by A,30,60,90,120,150,180,210,240,270,300,and 330 and for purposes of planetary aspects, these points are respectivelythe middle points of the 1st,2nd,3rd, 4th etc., to 12th houses. So a planet at A aspects with a quarter sight the middle points of the 3rd and 10th houses, i.e., the points marked 60 and 270 respectively; similarly it aspects with a half sight points marked 120 and 240; with three-quarters sight points marked 90 and 210; and with full sights points marked 180. The aspects extend to 15 (deg) on either side of the points noted above. The same remark applies to special aspects of Mars,Jupiter, and Saturn " >From this I conclude that according to the translator, any Planet in say 16 deg of Aries, will have a 7th house aspect on a pont 18 deg+180=198 This aspect will be from 3 deg to 213 deg. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Shridhar, About Brihatjataka, which shloka are you refering to? Varahaihira gives grahadrishties in Grahayonibhedaadhyaaya shloka 13. No mention of degrees within which drishties are applicable is given. In the shloka he gives 7th house aspects for all grahas and the regular special full aspects for Jupiter(5 and 9) Mars(4 and 8) and Saturn (3 and 10) in addition to their 7th house aspects. If your copy has a different shloka, I would like to learn about it. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts I was going thru message 10450 by PVR on Yogas. I request the Gurus to guide me on 1 or 2 points in relation to YOGAS. 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. 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Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 THE GAJA KESARI YOGA IS MANIFEST WHEN MOON AND JUPITER ARE IN AN ANGLE TO EACH OTHER. I understand that this means, that Moon and Jupiter should have a 4th,7th,or 10 th aspect. 1. Is it proper to include Conjunction (being in same house/ sign) also in this condition ? In the Latest issue of Journal of Astrology (April-June 2003) Shri K.N.Rao while discussing the Chart of Harivanshrai Bachan (Father of Amitabh Bacgan), saus " Some of the striking features of the Horoscope are striking here; 1. An excellent Gaja Kesari Yoga in thr tenth House ..." The Lagna is Libra 28,16 deg: Moon Cancer 28,05 deg, and Jup Cancer 21,01 deg. Moon and Jup are conjunct (within 7 deg)Now a hypothecial case of MOON in Aries 20 deg. Propostion (a): If Jup is in Aries, Cancer, Libra, or Capricorn then a Gaja -Kesai Yoga is formed: (aspect by sign) Propostion (b) : If Jupiter is between Aries 5 deg to Taurus 5 or Cancer 5 deg to Leo 5 deg Or Libra 5 deg to Scorpiio 5 OR Capri 5 deg to Aqu. 5 THEN ONLY the Gaja Kesari Yoga can be taken as effectely formed ( This is based on the Aspect between Moon and Jup having at least 50 percent stregth. Or 15 deg. orb ) Proposition ©: When the houses are calculated as per the Sripathi Method, whiere houses are of uneqyual span, If Jupiter is in SAME/4th/7th/10 th HOUSE (irrespective of the Sign) then only Gaja Kesari Yoga can be taken as effectly formed. I request the Respected Gurus, and the Learned Members to enligthen me on which propostion seems appropriate, to follow. Ernst Wilhelm <ernst (AT) vedic astrology (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Sridhar, etc. yes, once you calculate the aspects to thier virupa value of between 0 -60 the natural quesion arises as to when to consider an aspect on and when to consider it off- because it is almost always on to some degree. There is a reason, I believe, that Brihat Parashara gives Rasi aspects first and then gives many yogas and then only gives planetary aspects right before the Shadbala Chapter. There must also be a reason that the Sutra in Jaimini that gives the rasi aspects is one of the most difficult and cryptic Sutras in the entire text, yet it is the one key sutra over which there is and has never been any controversy. Here is the Sutra- try to figure out how anyone got the rasi aspects from this one, and how everyone agreed: 1.1.2. Abhipasyanti rikshaani paarsvabhe ca. abhi- to, towards, into, over, upon, in front of. pasyanti- they are seeing. rikshaani- Nom. pl. constellations. paarsva- side, flank, the side of any square. bhe- Loc. sing. rasi. ca- both, and, but. The rasis are seeing in front, but at the side rasi. or it can be read thus: The rasis are seeing in front, and at the side, both. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net sridhar k [kopparsa ] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 7:22 AMvedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Chandrasekhar In the Book I have, the text of the sloka is not reproduced. Only an Engish Translation is there, and the Notes are there. I appreciate the reply of Shri Earnest Wilhem. His logic on aspects is very good. The method of calculation of the strength of the aspect also is a rational one. A similar method is prescribed for the Residual Strength in the Shadbalas (B V Raman). If one accepts the logic that at 150 the stregth is ZERO and at 180 the Srength of the 7th house site is full, and we calculate the stregth ffor the intermediate degrees on this basis, the stregth of the aspect will be 50 percent at 150+15 degrees. If one deems an aspect effective if it has atleast 50 percent stregth, then I beleve, the simple method of taking the aspect effective within the range of 15 degrees on either side of the exact degree, could be justified. Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 ; Dear Sridhar, I asked as in your original mail you said the reference is from Brihat jataka. Anyway, Brihat Samhita comentary by M.R. Bhat is already in print. It is a great treatise it also deals with various natural phenomenon like weather predictions and other matters. The original shlokas are also available on the net. Panchasiddhantika is ,if I am not mistaken, not about prediction. If you kindly give me text of the shloka, reffered about 15 degrees angle,I will be oblidged. Regards, Chandrashekhar. ---- Dear Siri Chandrasekhar I quote: "Varahmira's work on the former, known as Brihat Samhita, is now being translated by me, and his astronomical work is known as Panchassiddhanta, It was long supposed to have been lost. Fortunately , two copies of this rare work were recently discovered, and they were purchased by the Bombay Government. M. Thibaut Phil. Dr., is now preparing an English translation of same assisted by Pandit Suddakara. " This is written in Jan 1977 There has been a very good responce from the learned Guru,s but my doubts remain I would appreciate if Guru Narsinhagaru, gives his views on these matters, and the Method he has adopted while creating his very popular soft wares.Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sridhar, Could you indicate the translator and which edition amongst those available has he translated from? Paarashara does mention Ekapada, tripad etc. drishties and also Rasi drishties. He also indicates how to calculate the value of an aspect based on difference of degrees between the aspecting and aspected planets. But 15 degrees either side is some thing new, hence the request. Of course astrologers of my generation usually consider Rasi to Rasi drishty. That is say Sun in say 3 degrees Aries would continue to aspect Jupiter in say 29 degrees Libra. We assess the strengrth of drishty from the distance of the planet from Bhava madhya of Lagna, nearer the stronger. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Friday, June 20, 2003 1:17 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Shree Chandrashekhar I have given reference to the English Translation of The Brihat Jatajaka. On page 21, in para 13. (I presume it refers to 13th stanza) the translation is as below: I quote ; "13. All the planets aspect the 3rd and 10th houses with a quarter sight; the 5th and 9th houses with half a sight, the 4th and 8th houses with three-quarters of sight, and the 7th house with full sight: but Saturn aspects he 3rd and 10th houses with full sight; Jupiter aspects the 5th and 9th houses with full sight, and Mars the 4th and 8th housess with full sight. "" Then Notes below this explain how the house sight is determined. I quote :" Suppose A to be a pont in the eccliptic occupied by an aspecting planet; divide the eccliptic into 12 equal parts of 30 deg. each, beginning from A. So the 12 points of division will be those respectively marked by A,30,60,90,120,150,180,210,240,270,300,and 330 and for purposes of planetary aspects, these points are respectivelythe middle points of the 1st,2nd,3rd, 4th etc., to 12th houses. So a planet at A aspects with a quarter sight the middle points of the 3rd and 10th houses, i.e., the points marked 60 and 270 respectively; similarly it aspects with a half sight points marked 120 and 240; with three-quarters sight points marked 90 and 210; and with full sights points marked 180. The aspects extend to 15 (deg) on either side of the points noted above. The same remark applies to special aspects of Mars,Jupiter, and Saturn " >From this I conclude that according to the translator, any Planet in say 16 deg of Aries, will have a 7th house aspect on a pont 18 deg+180=198 This aspect will be from 3 deg to 213 deg. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Shridhar, About Brihatjataka, which shloka are you refering to? Varahaihira gives grahadrishties in Grahayonibhedaadhyaaya shloka 13. No mention of degrees within which drishties are applicable is given. In the shloka he gives 7th house aspects for all grahas and the regular special full aspects for Jupiter(5 and 9) Mars(4 and 8) and Saturn (3 and 10) in addition to their 7th house aspects. If your copy has a different shloka, I would like to learn about it. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts I was going thru message 10450 by PVR on Yogas. I request the Gurus to guide me on 1 or 2 points in relation to YOGAS. 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. This would mean that the Aspect is from 0 deg Gem to 30 deg Gem. WHICH of THESE 3 is the correct way of considering the Aspect SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- Dear Ernst, Another (silly?) interpretation of the sutra here: "The rasis are seeing in front except for the ones adjacent (by the side of) to it" regards Hari >Here is the Sutra- try to figure out how anyone got the rasi >aspects from this one, and how everyone agreed: > > > > 1.1.2. Abhipasyanti rikshaani paarsvabhe ca. > > abhi- to, towards, into, over, upon, in front of. pasyanti- they are seeing. rikshaani- Nom. pl. constellations. paarsva- side, flank, the side of any square. bhe- Loc. sing. rasi. ca- both, and, but. > > The rasis are seeing in front, but at the side rasi. > > > > or it can be read thus: > > > > The rasis are seeing in front, and at the side, both. > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Dear Sridhar, Gajakesari is also formed when Guru and Chandra are conjunct.1st is also kendra. The effectiveness of the yoga would depend on other factors such as placement and houseownerships of the Planets involved. As a matter of fact some acharyas are of the opinion that mercury should not be in 5th house from nor aspect the yoga forming planets. Even different editions of BPHS give different combinations for the yoga to for. However most astrologers accept that Guru and Chandra in mutual quadrants form the yoga. The yoga has nothing to do with aspects of Guru and Chandra but the relative position of their houses in Naisargika horoscope and other sound astrological principles. I have just finished the paper on Chandra yoga for SJC conference, and have given detailed analysis of the yoga, there. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Monday, June 23, 2003 2:29 PM RE: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Salutations to Chandrashekarji, Ernt Wilhem, guru Zoran for the troubles they have taken to enlighten me on the Basic Question of Strength, and Aspects: I have a practical difficulty in determining wether a YOGA is manifest in the Chart or Not. THE GAJA KESARI YOGA IS MANIFEST WHEN MOON AND JUPITER ARE IN AN ANGLE TO EACH OTHER. I understand that this means, that Moon and Jupiter should have a 4th,7th,or 10 th aspect. 1. Is it proper to include Conjunction (being in same house/ sign) also in this condition ? In the Latest issue of Journal of Astrology (April-June 2003) Shri K.N.Rao while discussing the Chart of Harivanshrai Bachan (Father of Amitabh Bacgan), saus " Some of the striking features of the Horoscope are striking here; 1. An excellent Gaja Kesari Yoga in thr tenth House ..." The Lagna is Libra 28,16 deg: Moon Cancer 28,05 deg, and Jup Cancer 21,01 deg. Moon and Jup are conjunct (within 7 deg)Now a hypothecial case of MOON in Aries 20 deg. Propostion (a): If Jup is in Aries, Cancer, Libra, or Capricorn then a Gaja -Kesai Yoga is formed: (aspect by sign) Propostion (b) : If Jupiter is between Aries 5 deg to Taurus 5 or Cancer 5 deg to Leo 5 deg Or Libra 5 deg to Scorpiio 5 OR Capri 5 deg to Aqu. 5 THEN ONLY the Gaja Kesari Yoga can be taken as effectely formed ( This is based on the Aspect between Moon and Jup having at least 50 percent stregth. Or 15 deg. orb ) Proposition ©: When the houses are calculated as per the Sripathi Method, whiere houses are of uneqyual span, If Jupiter is in SAME/4th/7th/10 th HOUSE (irrespective of the Sign) then only Gaja Kesari Yoga can be taken as effectly formed. I request the Respected Gurus, and the Learned Members to enligthen me on which propostion seems appropriate, to follow. Ernst Wilhelm <ernst (AT) vedic astrology (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Sridhar, etc. yes, once you calculate the aspects to thier virupa value of between 0 -60 the natural quesion arises as to when to consider an aspect on and when to consider it off- because it is almost always on to some degree. There is a reason, I believe, that Brihat Parashara gives Rasi aspects first and then gives many yogas and then only gives planetary aspects right before the Shadbala Chapter. There must also be a reason that the Sutra in Jaimini that gives the rasi aspects is one of the most difficult and cryptic Sutras in the entire text, yet it is the one key sutra over which there is and has never been any controversy. Here is the Sutra- try to figure out how anyone got the rasi aspects from this one, and how everyone agreed: 1.1.2. Abhipasyanti rikshaani paarsvabhe ca. abhi- to, towards, into, over, upon, in front of. pasyanti- they are seeing. rikshaani- Nom. pl. constellations. paarsva- side, flank, the side of any square. bhe- Loc. sing. rasi. ca- both, and, but. The rasis are seeing in front, but at the side rasi. or it can be read thus: The rasis are seeing in front, and at the side, both. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net sridhar k [kopparsa ] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 7:22 AMvedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Chandrasekhar In the Book I have, the text of the sloka is not reproduced. Only an Engish Translation is there, and the Notes are there. I appreciate the reply of Shri Earnest Wilhem. His logic on aspects is very good. The method of calculation of the strength of the aspect also is a rational one. A similar method is prescribed for the Residual Strength in the Shadbalas (B V Raman). If one accepts the logic that at 150 the stregth is ZERO and at 180 the Srength of the 7th house site is full, and we calculate the stregth ffor the intermediate degrees on this basis, the stregth of the aspect will be 50 percent at 150+15 degrees. If one deems an aspect effective if it has atleast 50 percent stregth, then I beleve, the simple method of taking the aspect effective within the range of 15 degrees on either side of the exact degree, could be justified. Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 ; Dear Sridhar, I asked as in your original mail you said the reference is from Brihat jataka. Anyway, Brihat Samhita comentary by M.R. Bhat is already in print. It is a great treatise it also deals with various natural phenomenon like weather predictions and other matters. The original shlokas are also available on the net. Panchasiddhantika is ,if I am not mistaken, not about prediction. If you kindly give me text of the shloka, reffered about 15 degrees angle,I will be oblidged. Regards, Chandrashekhar. ---- Dear Siri Chandrasekhar I quote: "Varahmira's work on the former, known as Brihat Samhita, is now being translated by me, and his astronomical work is known as Panchassiddhanta, It was long supposed to have been lost. Fortunately , two copies of this rare work were recently discovered, and they were purchased by the Bombay Government. M. Thibaut Phil. Dr., is now preparing an English translation of same assisted by Pandit Suddakara. " This is written in Jan 1977 There has been a very good responce from the learned Guru,s but my doubts remain I would appreciate if Guru Narsinhagaru, gives his views on these matters, and the Method he has adopted while creating his very popular soft wares.Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sridhar, Could you indicate the translator and which edition amongst those available has he translated from? Paarashara does mention Ekapada, tripad etc. drishties and also Rasi drishties. He also indicates how to calculate the value of an aspect based on difference of degrees between the aspecting and aspected planets. But 15 degrees either side is some thing new, hence the request. Of course astrologers of my generation usually consider Rasi to Rasi drishty. That is say Sun in say 3 degrees Aries would continue to aspect Jupiter in say 29 degrees Libra. We assess the strengrth of drishty from the distance of the planet from Bhava madhya of Lagna, nearer the stronger. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Friday, June 20, 2003 1:17 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Shree Chandrashekhar I have given reference to the English Translation of The Brihat Jatajaka. On page 21, in para 13. (I presume it refers to 13th stanza) the translation is as below: I quote ; "13. All the planets aspect the 3rd and 10th houses with a quarter sight; the 5th and 9th houses with half a sight, the 4th and 8th houses with three-quarters of sight, and the 7th house with full sight: but Saturn aspects he 3rd and 10th houses with full sight; Jupiter aspects the 5th and 9th houses with full sight, and Mars the 4th and 8th housess with full sight. "" Then Notes below this explain how the house sight is determined. I quote :" Suppose A to be a pont in the eccliptic occupied by an aspecting planet; divide the eccliptic into 12 equal parts of 30 deg. each, beginning from A. So the 12 points of division will be those respectively marked by A,30,60,90,120,150,180,210,240,270,300,and 330 and for purposes of planetary aspects, these points are respectivelythe middle points of the 1st,2nd,3rd, 4th etc., to 12th houses. So a planet at A aspects with a quarter sight the middle points of the 3rd and 10th houses, i.e., the points marked 60 and 270 respectively; similarly it aspects with a half sight points marked 120 and 240; with three-quarters sight points marked 90 and 210; and with full sights points marked 180. The aspects extend to 15 (deg) on either side of the points noted above. The same remark applies to special aspects of Mars,Jupiter, and Saturn " >From this I conclude that according to the translator, any Planet in say 16 deg of Aries, will have a 7th house aspect on a pont 18 deg+180=198 This aspect will be from 3 deg to 213 deg. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Shridhar, About Brihatjataka, which shloka are you refering to? Varahaihira gives grahadrishties in Grahayonibhedaadhyaaya shloka 13. No mention of degrees within which drishties are applicable is given. In the shloka he gives 7th house aspects for all grahas and the regular special full aspects for Jupiter(5 and 9) Mars(4 and 8) and Saturn (3 and 10) in addition to their 7th house aspects. If your copy has a different shloka, I would like to learn about it. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts I was going thru message 10450 by PVR on Yogas. I request the Gurus to guide me on 1 or 2 points in relation to YOGAS. 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. This would mean that the Aspect is from 0 deg Gem to 30 deg Gem. WHICH of THESE 3 is the correct way of considering the Aspect SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted June 23, 2003 Report Share Posted June 23, 2003 Dear Hari, It is not necessary to go that far. Jaimini states that one should study other standard works of acharyas. In BPHS Rasidrishtykathanaadhyaaya shloka 1 to 3 give the details of Rasi dristy. Sutras are always brief and to unravel their meaning it is necessary to study other shashtras. Chandrashekhar. - onlyhari vedic astrology Monday, June 23, 2003 2:42 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Basic Doubts ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---Dear Ernst,Another (silly?) interpretation of the sutra here:"The rasis are seeing in front except for the ones adjacent (by the side of) to it"regardsHari>Here is the Sutra- try to figure out how anyone got the rasi >aspects from this one, and how everyone agreed:> > > > 1.1.2. Abhipasyanti rikshaani paarsvabhe ca.> > abhi- to, towards, into, over, upon, in front of. pasyanti- they are seeing. rikshaani- Nom. pl. constellations. paarsva- side, flank, the side of any square. bhe- Loc. sing. rasi. ca- both, and, but.> > The rasis are seeing in front, but at the side rasi. > > > > or it can be read thus:> > > > The rasis are seeing in front, and at the side, both.> Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 6/10/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 Thank you for replying and clearing my one doubt, reg the formation of GK Yoga, when Moon and Jup are conjunct. You have said that the formation of the Yoga has nothing to do with aspects, but with Houses occupied by the Moon and Jupiter in the Naisargika Horoscope. "NPlease enlighten me on this "Naisairgika horoscope "Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sridhar, Gajakesari is also formed when Guru and Chandra are conjunct.1st is also kendra. The effectiveness of the yoga would depend on other factors such as placement and houseownerships of the Planets involved. As a matter of fact some acharyas are of the opinion that mercury should not be in 5th house from nor aspect the yoga forming planets. Even different editions of BPHS give different combinations for the yoga to for. However most astrologers accept that Guru and Chandra in mutual quadrants form the yoga. The yoga has nothing to do with aspects of Guru and Chandra but the relative position of their houses in Naisargika horoscope and other sound astrological principles. I have just finished the paper on Chandra yoga for SJC conference, and have given detailed analysis of the yoga, there. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Monday, June 23, 2003 2:29 PM RE: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Salutations to Chandrashekarji, Ernt Wilhem, guru Zoran for the troubles they have taken to enlighten me on the Basic Question of Strength, and Aspects: I have a practical difficulty in determining wether a YOGA is manifest in the Chart or Not. THE GAJA KESARI YOGA IS MANIFEST WHEN MOON AND JUPITER ARE IN AN ANGLE TO EACH OTHER. I understand that this means, that Moon and Jupiter should have a 4th,7th,or 10 th aspect. 1. Is it proper to include Conjunction (being in same house/ sign) also in this condition ? In the Latest issue of Journal of Astrology (April-June 2003) Shri K.N.Rao while discussing the Chart of Harivanshrai Bachan (Father of Amitabh Bacgan), saus " Some of the striking features of the Horoscope are striking here; 1. An excellent Gaja Kesari Yoga in thr tenth House ..." The Lagna is Libra 28,16 deg: Moon Cancer 28,05 deg, and Jup Cancer 21,01 deg. Moon and Jup are conjunct (within 7 deg)Now a hypothecial case of MOON in Aries 20 deg. Propostion (a): If Jup is in Aries, Cancer, Libra, or Capricorn then a Gaja -Kesai Yoga is formed: (aspect by sign) Propostion (b) : If Jupiter is between Aries 5 deg to Taurus 5 or Cancer 5 deg to Leo 5 deg Or Libra 5 deg to Scorpiio 5 OR Capri 5 deg to Aqu. 5 THEN ONLY the Gaja Kesari Yoga can be taken as effectely formed ( This is based on the Aspect between Moon and Jup having at least 50 percent stregth. Or 15 deg. orb ) Proposition ©: When the houses are calculated as per the Sripathi Method, whiere houses are of uneqyual span, If Jupiter is in SAME/4th/7th/10 th HOUSE (irrespective of the Sign) then only Gaja Kesari Yoga can be taken as effectly formed. I request the Respected Gurus, and the Learned Members to enligthen me on which propostion seems appropriate, to follow. Ernst Wilhelm <ernst (AT) vedic astrology (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Sridhar, etc. yes, once you calculate the aspects to thier virupa value of between 0 -60 the natural quesion arises as to when to consider an aspect on and when to consider it off- because it is almost always on to some degree. There is a reason, I believe, that Brihat Parashara gives Rasi aspects first and then gives many yogas and then only gives planetary aspects right before the Shadbala Chapter. There must also be a reason that the Sutra in Jaimini that gives the rasi aspects is one of the most difficult and cryptic Sutras in the entire text, yet it is the one key sutra over which there is and has never been any controversy. Here is the Sutra- try to figure out how anyone got the rasi aspects from this one, and how everyone agreed: 1.1.2. Abhipasyanti rikshaani paarsvabhe ca. abhi- to, towards, into, over, upon, in front of. pasyanti- they are seeing. rikshaani- Nom. pl. constellations. paarsva- side, flank, the side of any square. bhe- Loc. sing. rasi. ca- both, and, but. The rasis are seeing in front, but at the side rasi. or it can be read thus: The rasis are seeing in front, and at the side, both. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net sridhar k [kopparsa ] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 7:22 AMvedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Chandrasekhar In the Book I have, the text of the sloka is not reproduced. Only an Engish Translation is there, and the Notes are there. I appreciate the reply of Shri Earnest Wilhem. His logic on aspects is very good. The method of calculation of the strength of the aspect also is a rational one. A similar method is prescribed for the Residual Strength in the Shadbalas (B V Raman). If one accepts the logic that at 150 the stregth is ZERO and at 180 the Srength of the 7th house site is full, and we calculate the stregth ffor the intermediate degrees on this basis, the stregth of the aspect will be 50 percent at 150+15 degrees. If one deems an aspect effective if it has atleast 50 percent stregth, then I beleve, the simple method of taking the aspect effective within the range of 15 degrees on either side of the exact degree, could be justified. Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 ; Dear Sridhar, I asked as in your original mail you said the reference is from Brihat jataka. Anyway, Brihat Samhita comentary by M.R. Bhat is already in print. It is a great treatise it also deals with various natural phenomenon like weather predictions and other matters. The original shlokas are also available on the net. Panchasiddhantika is ,if I am not mistaken, not about prediction. If you kindly give me text of the shloka, reffered about 15 degrees angle,I will be oblidged. Regards, Chandrashekhar. ---- Dear Siri Chandrasekhar I quote: "Varahmira's work on the former, known as Brihat Samhita, is now being translated by me, and his astronomical work is known as Panchassiddhanta, It was long supposed to have been lost. Fortunately , two copies of this rare work were recently discovered, and they were purchased by the Bombay Government. M. Thibaut Phil. Dr., is now preparing an English translation of same assisted by Pandit Suddakara. " This is written in Jan 1977 There has been a very good responce from the learned Guru,s but my doubts remain I would appreciate if Guru Narsinhagaru, gives his views on these matters, and the Method he has adopted while creating his very popular soft wares.Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sridhar, Could you indicate the translator and which edition amongst those available has he translated from? Paarashara does mention Ekapada, tripad etc. drishties and also Rasi drishties. He also indicates how to calculate the value of an aspect based on difference of degrees between the aspecting and aspected planets. But 15 degrees either side is some thing new, hence the request. Of course astrologers of my generation usually consider Rasi to Rasi drishty. That is say Sun in say 3 degrees Aries would continue to aspect Jupiter in say 29 degrees Libra. We assess the strengrth of drishty from the distance of the planet from Bhava madhya of Lagna, nearer the stronger. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Friday, June 20, 2003 1:17 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Shree Chandrashekhar I have given reference to the English Translation of The Brihat Jatajaka. On page 21, in para 13. (I presume it refers to 13th stanza) the translation is as below: I quote ; "13. All the planets aspect the 3rd and 10th houses with a quarter sight; the 5th and 9th houses with half a sight, the 4th and 8th houses with three-quarters of sight, and the 7th house with full sight: but Saturn aspects he 3rd and 10th houses with full sight; Jupiter aspects the 5th and 9th houses with full sight, and Mars the 4th and 8th housess with full sight. "" Then Notes below this explain how the house sight is determined. I quote :" Suppose A to be a pont in the eccliptic occupied by an aspecting planet; divide the eccliptic into 12 equal parts of 30 deg. each, beginning from A. So the 12 points of division will be those respectively marked by A,30,60,90,120,150,180,210,240,270,300,and 330 and for purposes of planetary aspects, these points are respectivelythe middle points of the 1st,2nd,3rd, 4th etc., to 12th houses. So a planet at A aspects with a quarter sight the middle points of the 3rd and 10th houses, i.e., the points marked 60 and 270 respectively; similarly it aspects with a half sight points marked 120 and 240; with three-quarters sight points marked 90 and 210; and with full sights points marked 180. The aspects extend to 15 (deg) on either side of the points noted above. The same remark applies to special aspects of Mars,Jupiter, and Saturn " >From this I conclude that according to the translator, any Planet in say 16 deg of Aries, will have a 7th house aspect on a pont 18 deg+180=198 This aspect will be from 3 deg to 213 deg. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Shridhar, About Brihatjataka, which shloka are you refering to? Varahaihira gives grahadrishties in Grahayonibhedaadhyaaya shloka 13. No mention of degrees within which drishties are applicable is given. In the shloka he gives 7th house aspects for all grahas and the regular special full aspects for Jupiter(5 and 9) Mars(4 and 8) and Saturn (3 and 10) in addition to their 7th house aspects. If your copy has a different shloka, I would like to learn about it. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts I was going thru message 10450 by PVR on Yogas. I request the Gurus to guide me on 1 or 2 points in relation to YOGAS. 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. This would mean that the Aspect is from 0 deg Gem to 30 deg Gem. WHICH of THESE 3 is the correct way of considering the Aspect SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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Guest guest Posted June 24, 2003 Report Share Posted June 24, 2003 Dear Sridhar, Look at Chandra owning Cancer in 4th house in naisargika Horoscope and Jupiter owning 9th and 12th there. Combination of 4th and 9th lord means Kendra-konadhipati yoga making both yogakarakas. Again for Chandralagna Horoscope Pisces is 9th from cancer, so in Chandra Lagna Horo too there occurs Kendra-konadhipati yoga. Hope this clears doubts. Of course additional benefit is derived in that in Chandra kundali the benefics aspect/occupy all th 4 kendras when forming square other than when conjunct, and when conjunct they aspect/occupy 2 Kendras and also aspect both Kona houses. So if we also consider aspects , probably,conjunct will give a more powerful yoga than the other three. Others might have different opinions. Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Tuesday, June 24, 2003 12:46 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Shri Chandrasekhar ji Thank you for replying and clearing my one doubt, reg the formation of GK Yoga, when Moon and Jup are conjunct. You have said that the formation of the Yoga has nothing to do with aspects, but with Houses occupied by the Moon and Jupiter in the Naisargika Horoscope. "NPlease enlighten me on this "Naisairgika horoscope "Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sridhar, Gajakesari is also formed when Guru and Chandra are conjunct.1st is also kendra. The effectiveness of the yoga would depend on other factors such as placement and houseownerships of the Planets involved. As a matter of fact some acharyas are of the opinion that mercury should not be in 5th house from nor aspect the yoga forming planets. Even different editions of BPHS give different combinations for the yoga to for. However most astrologers accept that Guru and Chandra in mutual quadrants form the yoga. The yoga has nothing to do with aspects of Guru and Chandra but the relative position of their houses in Naisargika horoscope and other sound astrological principles. I have just finished the paper on Chandra yoga for SJC conference, and have given detailed analysis of the yoga, there. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Monday, June 23, 2003 2:29 PM RE: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Salutations to Chandrashekarji, Ernt Wilhem, guru Zoran for the troubles they have taken to enlighten me on the Basic Question of Strength, and Aspects: I have a practical difficulty in determining wether a YOGA is manifest in the Chart or Not. THE GAJA KESARI YOGA IS MANIFEST WHEN MOON AND JUPITER ARE IN AN ANGLE TO EACH OTHER. I understand that this means, that Moon and Jupiter should have a 4th,7th,or 10 th aspect. 1. Is it proper to include Conjunction (being in same house/ sign) also in this condition ? In the Latest issue of Journal of Astrology (April-June 2003) Shri K.N.Rao while discussing the Chart of Harivanshrai Bachan (Father of Amitabh Bacgan), saus " Some of the striking features of the Horoscope are striking here; 1. An excellent Gaja Kesari Yoga in thr tenth House ..." The Lagna is Libra 28,16 deg: Moon Cancer 28,05 deg, and Jup Cancer 21,01 deg. Moon and Jup are conjunct (within 7 deg)Now a hypothecial case of MOON in Aries 20 deg. Propostion (a): If Jup is in Aries, Cancer, Libra, or Capricorn then a Gaja -Kesai Yoga is formed: (aspect by sign) Propostion (b) : If Jupiter is between Aries 5 deg to Taurus 5 or Cancer 5 deg to Leo 5 deg Or Libra 5 deg to Scorpiio 5 OR Capri 5 deg to Aqu. 5 THEN ONLY the Gaja Kesari Yoga can be taken as effectely formed ( This is based on the Aspect between Moon and Jup having at least 50 percent stregth. Or 15 deg. orb ) Proposition ©: When the houses are calculated as per the Sripathi Method, whiere houses are of uneqyual span, If Jupiter is in SAME/4th/7th/10 th HOUSE (irrespective of the Sign) then only Gaja Kesari Yoga can be taken as effectly formed. I request the Respected Gurus, and the Learned Members to enligthen me on which propostion seems appropriate, to follow. Ernst Wilhelm <ernst (AT) vedic astrology (DOT) net> wrote: Dear Sridhar, etc. yes, once you calculate the aspects to thier virupa value of between 0 -60 the natural quesion arises as to when to consider an aspect on and when to consider it off- because it is almost always on to some degree. There is a reason, I believe, that Brihat Parashara gives Rasi aspects first and then gives many yogas and then only gives planetary aspects right before the Shadbala Chapter. There must also be a reason that the Sutra in Jaimini that gives the rasi aspects is one of the most difficult and cryptic Sutras in the entire text, yet it is the one key sutra over which there is and has never been any controversy. Here is the Sutra- try to figure out how anyone got the rasi aspects from this one, and how everyone agreed: 1.1.2. Abhipasyanti rikshaani paarsvabhe ca. abhi- to, towards, into, over, upon, in front of. pasyanti- they are seeing. rikshaani- Nom. pl. constellations. paarsva- side, flank, the side of any square. bhe- Loc. sing. rasi. ca- both, and, but. The rasis are seeing in front, but at the side rasi. or it can be read thus: The rasis are seeing in front, and at the side, both. Jai Ram, Ernst Wilhelm www.vedic astrology.net sridhar k [kopparsa ] Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 7:22 AMvedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Chandrasekhar In the Book I have, the text of the sloka is not reproduced. Only an Engish Translation is there, and the Notes are there. I appreciate the reply of Shri Earnest Wilhem. His logic on aspects is very good. The method of calculation of the strength of the aspect also is a rational one. A similar method is prescribed for the Residual Strength in the Shadbalas (B V Raman). If one accepts the logic that at 150 the stregth is ZERO and at 180 the Srength of the 7th house site is full, and we calculate the stregth ffor the intermediate degrees on this basis, the stregth of the aspect will be 50 percent at 150+15 degrees. If one deems an aspect effective if it has atleast 50 percent stregth, then I beleve, the simple method of taking the aspect effective within the range of 15 degrees on either side of the exact degree, could be justified. Chandrashekhar Sharma <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: FLAVOR00-NONE-0000-0000-000000000000 ; Dear Sridhar, I asked as in your original mail you said the reference is from Brihat jataka. Anyway, Brihat Samhita comentary by M.R. Bhat is already in print. It is a great treatise it also deals with various natural phenomenon like weather predictions and other matters. The original shlokas are also available on the net. Panchasiddhantika is ,if I am not mistaken, not about prediction. If you kindly give me text of the shloka, reffered about 15 degrees angle,I will be oblidged. Regards, Chandrashekhar. ---- Dear Siri Chandrasekhar I quote: "Varahmira's work on the former, known as Brihat Samhita, is now being translated by me, and his astronomical work is known as Panchassiddhanta, It was long supposed to have been lost. Fortunately , two copies of this rare work were recently discovered, and they were purchased by the Bombay Government. M. Thibaut Phil. Dr., is now preparing an English translation of same assisted by Pandit Suddakara. " This is written in Jan 1977 There has been a very good responce from the learned Guru,s but my doubts remain I would appreciate if Guru Narsinhagaru, gives his views on these matters, and the Method he has adopted while creating his very popular soft wares.Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Sridhar, Could you indicate the translator and which edition amongst those available has he translated from? Paarashara does mention Ekapada, tripad etc. drishties and also Rasi drishties. He also indicates how to calculate the value of an aspect based on difference of degrees between the aspecting and aspected planets. But 15 degrees either side is some thing new, hence the request. Of course astrologers of my generation usually consider Rasi to Rasi drishty. That is say Sun in say 3 degrees Aries would continue to aspect Jupiter in say 29 degrees Libra. We assess the strengrth of drishty from the distance of the planet from Bhava madhya of Lagna, nearer the stronger. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Friday, June 20, 2003 1:17 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts Dear Shree Chandrashekhar I have given reference to the English Translation of The Brihat Jatajaka. On page 21, in para 13. (I presume it refers to 13th stanza) the translation is as below: I quote ; "13. All the planets aspect the 3rd and 10th houses with a quarter sight; the 5th and 9th houses with half a sight, the 4th and 8th houses with three-quarters of sight, and the 7th house with full sight: but Saturn aspects he 3rd and 10th houses with full sight; Jupiter aspects the 5th and 9th houses with full sight, and Mars the 4th and 8th housess with full sight. "" Then Notes below this explain how the house sight is determined. I quote :" Suppose A to be a pont in the eccliptic occupied by an aspecting planet; divide the eccliptic into 12 equal parts of 30 deg. each, beginning from A. So the 12 points of division will be those respectively marked by A,30,60,90,120,150,180,210,240,270,300,and 330 and for purposes of planetary aspects, these points are respectivelythe middle points of the 1st,2nd,3rd, 4th etc., to 12th houses. So a planet at A aspects with a quarter sight the middle points of the 3rd and 10th houses, i.e., the points marked 60 and 270 respectively; similarly it aspects with a half sight points marked 120 and 240; with three-quarters sight points marked 90 and 210; and with full sights points marked 180. The aspects extend to 15 (deg) on either side of the points noted above. The same remark applies to special aspects of Mars,Jupiter, and Saturn " >From this I conclude that according to the translator, any Planet in say 16 deg of Aries, will have a 7th house aspect on a pont 18 deg+180=198 This aspect will be from 3 deg to 213 deg. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote: Dear Shridhar, About Brihatjataka, which shloka are you refering to? Varahaihira gives grahadrishties in Grahayonibhedaadhyaaya shloka 13. No mention of degrees within which drishties are applicable is given. In the shloka he gives 7th house aspects for all grahas and the regular special full aspects for Jupiter(5 and 9) Mars(4 and 8) and Saturn (3 and 10) in addition to their 7th house aspects. If your copy has a different shloka, I would like to learn about it. Regards, Chandrashekhar. - sridhar k vedic astrology Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:49 PM [vedic astrology] Basic Doubts I was going thru message 10450 by PVR on Yogas. I request the Gurus to guide me on 1 or 2 points in relation to YOGAS. 1. DRISTI or ASPECT on one planet on another. The planets are said to have 1/4,1/2,3/4 and Full dristis on 3/10th house, 5th and 9th house, 4th 8th, 7th house respectively. What is the significance of this 1/,1/2,3/4, and full dristi. The planet has this dristi from its Sign and Degree to the respective point 60,120,90,and 180 degrees. Further it is said that the exent is 15 degrees on either side. As an Example Say JUP is in Aries 18 deg. Then it is said to have 1/4 sight on Gem 18 deg (3rd house). This aspect is supposed to be fron 3 deg Gem to 3 deg Cancer. This is as per Page 21 of Brihat Jataka of Varaha MIHIR translated by USHA-SHASHI. Sagar Publications. I have another Translation in Kannada of the same Brohit Hora Shastra of Varaha Mihir. In this the Aspect is supposed to start from Gemini 18 deg and to extend upto Cancer 18 deg. The other way, considers only the sign irrespective of the degree. This would mean that the Aspect is from 0 deg Gem to 30 deg Gem. WHICH of THESE 3 is the correct way of considering the Aspect SBC DSL - Now only $29.95 per month! Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... 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