Guest guest Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 Dear Marcus, Hare Rama Krsna! Notice the Saptamsa lagna lord Venus with Rahu, this is bound to create difficulty in understanding this D-7. Yes, Rahu here will definitely reverse things in counting, that's sure. But how? Know also that sex of the child in female D-7 is better seen from the husband's chart. Though I didn't have a look at her second husband's chart, this is my understanding. You didn't tell previously about the first child being from 1st marriage and that the aborted child was the 4th child. You had said earlier she had 2 children and her husband didn't want a third. So look at 9th house in D-7. Rahu-Venus, Saptamsa lagna lord will give the first child and shows that after the first child she would divorce and re-marry. Rahu always shows that there may be children after that one which is connected with it from second marriage or it stops there. Then count in the reverse, Sat 2nd, Mars 3rd, 4th Mercury in parivartana with the 12th from it gives abortion with Rahu-Venus aspecting it, then Moon in 10th house in female chart gives definitely loss of the child again. And Ketu is in 3rd thus showing it will be the last pregnancy. About the counselling: if the father knows the fire is going to burn the child, will he let the child burn himself? No, he'll explain the child to not put his hand in the fire, and the child will learn by himself, by accepting what the father tells him. Of course, when the child doesn't want to listen, then the child has to learn by his own experience. But it'll suffer more... Advise the mother not to be over-enthusiastic now. She'll have less pain when she knows it can turn out to be a failure. Yours, Dhira Krsna dasa, Jyotisha http://www.radhadesh.com Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 Dear List, No way meaning to start a debate on this, but it seems to have been exclusively males so far who have commented on women who choose to have abortions. As a male, I am grateful I can never get in the position of getting pregnant, so will never need to decide or be judged if I abort a child. End of the day, it's their (mother's) body and as childbirth doesn't look particularly painless to me I guess we can respect their decision. As I am not a husband or father, perhaps I am being premature here, but seriously - no offence intended to either side. Sateesh. ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.489 / Virus Database: 288 - Release Date: 10/06/2003 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted June 14, 2003 Report Share Posted June 14, 2003 Dear Dhira Krsna dasa Just to clarify the coordinates. Basel in Switzerland is 1h East seen from father the whole thing does not fit either. D7 Sagittarius lagna uneven = zodiacal. 1.) 5th Lord Mars in Leo = male instead of his first daughter. May be MO & VE in the 5th influencing this outcome. 2.) 7th Lord ME in 12 Scorpio = male, 3.) 9th lord SU in 7 Gemini conjoining RA = terminated 4.) 11th Lord VE in 5 Aries conjoining MO = female further below. - Dhira Krsna BCS vedic astrology Sunday, June 15, 2003 8:26 AM [vedic astrology] Abortion Dear Marcus,Hare Rama Krsna!Notice the Saptamsa lagna lord Venus with Rahu, this is bound to createdifficulty in understanding this D-7. Yes, Rahu here will definitelyreverse things in counting, that's sure. But how? Know also that sex ofthe child in female D-7 is better seen from the husband's chart. Though Ididn't have a look at her second husband's chart, this is myunderstanding.You didn't tell previously about the first child being from 1st marriageand that the aborted child was the 4th child. You had said earlier she had2 children and her husband didn't want a third. So look at 9th house inD-7. Rahu-Venus, Saptamsa lagna lord will give the first child and showsthat after the first child she would divorce and re-marry. Rahu alwaysshows that there may be children after that one which is connected with itfrom second marriage or it stops there. Does this mean you count the 9th house twice. The way you explain we have first child seen in VE RA in 9 wherby Rahu terminates the relation to first husband and we start with second husband at the same house again. Here we look at the lords Then count in the reverse, Sat male in aries,male = male, but debilitated changes to female? Does this mean any week or debilitated planet causes a female gender?? 2nd, Mars = male 3rd, 4th Mercury in parivartana with the 12th from it gives abortion with Rahu-Venus aspecting it, then Moon in 10th house in femalechart gives definitely loss of the child again. And Ketu is in 3rd thusshowing it will be the last pregnancy.About the counselling: if the father knows the fire is going to burn thechild, will he let the child burn himself? No, he'll explain the child tonot put his hand in the fire, and the child will learn by himself, byaccepting what the father tells him. Of course, when the child doesn'twant to listen, then the child has to learn by his own experience. Butit'll suffer more... I have to agree with you but seen from my own experience, all my 4 children had to experience it themselfes. Probably a lot more carefull then without my warning but never the less they had to try. Same aplies for myself. But it clearly states that a worning should be given to reduce the pain.Advise the mother not to be over-enthusiastic now. She'll have less painwhen she knows it can turn out to be a failure.Yours,Dhira Krsna dasa,Jyotishahttp://www.radhadesh.comArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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