Guest guest Posted June 10, 2003 Report Share Posted June 10, 2003 Dear ????? I have picked up the Danda which will overpower me and will put me in right direction. It will protect me from all the directions where from I my get frightened. Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. AmolMandar vedic astrology, "Jaihitu1981" <jaihitu1981@h...> wrote: > Amol mandar ji > > pls explain the meaning of:- > "Adamtam Damyitva Mam Marge Sanstapyanswayam | > Danda: kare Sthito Yasmatsmadraksha yato Bhayam||" > > > - > amolmandar > vedic astrology > Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:06 PM > FW: [vedic astrology] Re: Dasavatara Stotra-to Sanjayji > > > 10062003 > Respected Sanjayji > > It was satisfying to read your post. But my little brain still ticks > with some questions. I hope you wont consider this otherwise. If you > feel that my doubts are not worthy please excuse me for my > misdirected efforts. > > I understand that correct pronunciation is dattaatreya.It is > Datta+Atreya.Atreya means son of Atri. Why to write name in that case > with the Atreya? Atreya itself should qualify son of atri. As in my > previous mail,we dont write ArjunKaunteya or KarnaRadheya. It is not > correct to write both qualifiers. Radheya alone qualifies Karna or > Kaunteya alone qualifies Ajun. > > Moreover, whenever we see at Datta we see three heads > (Brahma+Vishnu+Mahesh) so can we not assume Traya to be more correct > than treya? Brahma+Vishnu+Mahesh together many times reffered as > Trayee. That exactly what Datta manifested to MAta Anusuya according > to Gurucharitra. > > cow-shed for the protection of society were there but the context > does not gothrough with this. Again, question ariese when which > meaning of the word should be taken? If it is not the context then it > would be interesting to attach semantics to the composite words like > GoSwami or GoWardhan. The meaning of Gotra was told to me by my > Purohit at the time of my Upanayan Sanskar. Before, giving the Danda > with DandaDharan Mantra. He as well told me to remember true meaning > of the words he taught me at that time.One of them was Gotra. Today > also I remember that > > "Adamtam Damyitva Mam Marge Sanstapyanswayam | > Danda: kare Sthito Yasmatsmadraksha yato Bhayam||" > > After that he gave me some spiritual discourses in a separate room. I > did not understand much then but that day onwards i developed the > habit of going to correct roots of the things to the satisfaction of > my mind. I hope you will as well give me the Danda with the same > Mantra! > > I am eager to read about Rath as fourth son of Atri & MAta Anusuya. > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > AmolMandar > > > > vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...> > wrote: > > > > |brihaspatim varenyam| > > Dear Amol Mandar, > > The correct pronunciation is dattaatreya. He is the second son of > Atri muni > > and Anuseya and is the Avadhuta Brahmana referred to in the > Bhagavatam by > > Sri Krishna Canto 11 while teaching Uddhava about the meaning of > Guru. > > Go may mean many things, but evey word has a 'devata' that > illumines the > > mind, and here Go refers to cows as in Taurus which is the place > where the > > cows come home. Life revolved around them and Taurus represents the > family > > as the second house of the natural zodiac. Moon represents cows and > its > > moolatrikona (office) is in Taurus. It is here that the cows are > milked and > > the family is sustained. Go-kula refers to a conglomeration of > houses like a > > family around a Go-shaala (cow-shed) where people used to live > together and > > feel protected (trai) and safe from the wilderness outside. They > were > > identified as a Go-tra. The word trai comes from the fact that the > cow-dung > > + water etc used to plaster the earthern floor is the ONLY > guarantee that > > the snakes will not come inside. Snakes keep away from (1) cowdung > and (2) > > bamboo. The latter was used as the danda of the Guru... > > > > You are right about the Radheya, that is why it is Atreya and not > atraya. > > Dattaatreya..with an 'e'. > > My views only... > > ~ om tat sat ~ > > Yours truly, > > Sanjay Rath > > --------------------------- > > H-5, B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > > +91-674-2436871 http://srath.com <http://srath.com> > > --------------------------- > > > > > > > > amolmandar [amolmandar] > > Monday, June 09, 2003 8:22 PM > > vedic astrology > > [vedic astrology] Re: Dasavatara Stotra-to Sanjayji > > > > > > Dear Gordan > > > > You may be right in suggesting the meaning of the word Gotra > but 'Go' > > is not Cow only in Sanskrit. It as well means Indriya or Pran. Now > > when deciding the meaning of a word we have to very careful about > > correct specification of the word. By simply saying that Go is > always > > cow the use of Gotra can not be explained. > > > > We explain Sarvatra/Anyatra as Sarv+atra and Anya+atra. Here we can > > not take Anya+Tra as protector of Anya(Some one else). It expalins > > related to something else with atra. Same is the case with Sarvatra. > > > > Again, with Dattatraya,it is difficult to understand why the name of > > the rishi be associated with name of a person. It can be as father > > but Atraya itself should express son of Atri. As Kounteya to mean > son > > of Kunti (Arjun) and RAdheya to mean son of Radha (Karna). It is > this > > qualification which is sufficient and not the double as > ArjunKounteya > > or KarnaRaheya. If we accept your way of semantics,still question > > remains why not to describe Durvasa with the name of Atri. We write > > Soma-atreya,Datta-atreya,Rath-atreya then logically it should be > with > > Durvas-atraya. > > > > I dont understand why to get into plural form when it explains as a > > complete word. I think we get as plural only when some singular is > to > > be described as plural. Refer to any standard dictionary and you > will > > find Traya as a valid word with out h associated with it. > > > > I am neither a expert of Sanskrit nor the Jyotish.It is just a > > spontaneous thought process that is manifested here. But I think it > > is worth considering. May be your right, may be not! > > > > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space. > > > > AmolMandar > > > > > > vedic astrology, GWBrennan@a... wrote: > > > Dear Amolmandar > > > > > > I am following this interesting discussion about these meanings. > I > > can not > > > contribute a lot really to the list, but I do follow what is going > > on with much > > > interest. About these words - > > > Vamsha (or vansha) - bamboo - fine. In fact it is supposed to be > > from the > > > resemblance to the development of the joints in bamboo - as the > > bamboo grows > > > each of its sections, and is a general term for lineage. The > > specific meanings > > > attached are a social development. > > > > > > You need to take care with the other attemps at explaining the > > meanings you > > > have suggested - gotra is not go + atra - you can not add an > > addional 'a' from > > > nowhere to achieve the meaning you are interested to find. Go > > (cow) + tra - > > > from root trai to cross (protector - i.e. one who enables another > > to cross over > > > an obstacle and referring ultimately to Krishna) with original > > meaning simply > > > of cowshed, cowherd or the like. > > > > > > Dattatraya is not Datta + traya, it is datta + atraya (dattaatraya > > in > > > pronunciation), and > > > Atraya should refer to the sage Atri. However that word (which I > > think could > > > only be Atrayah - a plural form) would have a very specific > usage - > > Dattaatri > > > refers to a thunderbolt (ref. Vayupurana) It has a long vowel, not > > a short > > > one and the word for the sage is Dattaatreya (Datta + Aatreya), > the > > additional > > > change from 'a' to 'e' signifying a descent from the original sage > > Atri. If > > > the meaning of traya was three then it would be spelt trayah, > there > > is no form > > > traya as far as I know. > > > Unless you know of a use of Datta + trayah I do not think your > > meaning could > > > be possible. > > > Regards > > > Gordon > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Recommended Posts
Join the conversation
You are posting as a guest. If you have an account, sign in now to post with your account.
Note: Your post will require moderator approval before it will be visible.