Dasavatara Stotra-to Amol ji

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Amol mandar ji

 

pls explain the meaning of:-

"Adamtam Damyitva Mam Marge Sanstapyanswayam | Danda: kare Sthito

Yasmatsmadraksha yato Bhayam||"

 

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amolmandar

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Tuesday, June 10, 2003 6:06 PM

FW: [vedic astrology] Re: Dasavatara Stotra-to Sanjayji

10062003Respected Sanjayji It was satisfying to read your post. But my little

brain still ticks with some questions. I hope you wont consider this otherwise.

If you feel that my doubts are not worthy please excuse me for my misdirected

efforts. I understand that correct pronunciation is dattaatreya.It is

Datta+Atreya.Atreya means son of Atri. Why to write name in that case with the

Atreya? Atreya itself should qualify son of atri. As in my previous mail,we

dont write ArjunKaunteya or KarnaRadheya. It is not correct to write both

qualifiers. Radheya alone qualifies Karna or Kaunteya alone qualifies Ajun.

Moreover, whenever we see at Datta we see three heads(Brahma+Vishnu+Mahesh) so

can we not assume Traya to be more correct than treya? Brahma+Vishnu+Mahesh

together many times reffered as Trayee. That exactly what Datta manifested to

MAta Anusuya according to Gurucharitra.cow-shed for the protection of society

were there but the context does not gothrough with this. Again, question ariese

when which meaning of the word should be taken? If it is not the context then it

would be interesting to attach semantics to the composite words like GoSwami or

GoWardhan. The meaning of Gotra was told to me by my Purohit at the time of my

Upanayan Sanskar. Before, giving the Danda with DandaDharan Mantra. He as well

told me to remember true meaning of the words he taught me at that time.One of

them was Gotra. Today also I remember that "Adamtam Damyitva Mam Marge

Sanstapyanswayam | Danda: kare Sthito Yasmatsmadraksha yato

Bhayam||"After that he gave me some spiritual discourses in a separate room. I

did not understand much then but that day onwards i developed the habit of

going to correct roots of the things to the satisfaction of my mind. I hope you

will as well give me the Danda with the same Mantra!I am eager to read about

Rath as fourth son of Atri & MAta Anusuya.Thanks a lot for your Time and

Space.AmolMandarvedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath"

<srath@s...> wrote:> > |brihaspatim varenyam|> Dear Amol Mandar,> The correct

pronunciation is dattaatreya. He is the second son of Atri muni> and Anuseya

and is the Avadhuta Brahmana referred to in the Bhagavatam by> Sri Krishna

Canto 11 while teaching Uddhava about the meaning of Guru.> Go may mean many

things, but evey word has a 'devata' that illumines the> mind, and here Go

refers to cows as in Taurus which is the place where the> cows come home. Life

revolved around them and Taurus represents the family> as the second house of

the natural zodiac. Moon represents cows and its> moolatrikona (office) is in

Taurus. It is here that the cows are milked and> the family is sustained.

Go-kula refers to a conglomeration of houses like a> family around a Go-shaala

(cow-shed) where people used to live together and> feel protected (trai) and

safe from the wilderness outside. They were> identified as a Go-tra. The word

trai comes from the fact that the cow-dung> + water etc used to plaster the

earthern floor is the ONLY guarantee that> the snakes will not come inside.

Snakes keep away from (1) cowdung and (2)> bamboo. The latter was used as the

danda of the Guru...> > You are right about the Radheya, that is why it is

Atreya and not atraya.> Dattaatreya..with an 'e'.> My views only...> ~ om tat

sat ~> Yours truly,> Sanjay Rath>

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Message-----> amolmandar [amolmandar]> Monday, June 09,

2003 8:22 PM> vedic astrology> [vedic astrology]

Re: Dasavatara Stotra-to Sanjayji> > > Dear Gordan> > You may be right in

suggesting the meaning of the word Gotra but 'Go'> is not Cow only in Sanskrit.

It as well means Indriya or Pran. Now> when deciding the meaning of a word we

have to very careful about> correct specification of the word. By simply saying

that Go is always> cow the use of Gotra can not be explained.> > We explain

Sarvatra/Anyatra as Sarv+atra and Anya+atra. Here we can> not take Anya+Tra as

protector of Anya(Some one else). It expalins> related to something else with

atra. Same is the case with Sarvatra.> > Again, with Dattatraya,it is difficult

to understand why the name of> the rishi be associated with name of a person. It

can be as father> but Atraya itself should express son of Atri. As Kounteya to

mean son> of Kunti (Arjun) and RAdheya to mean son of Radha (Karna). It is

this> qualification which is sufficient and not the double as ArjunKounteya> or

KarnaRaheya. If we accept your way of semantics,still question> remains why not

to describe Durvasa with the name of Atri. We write>

Soma-atreya,Datta-atreya,Rath-atreya then logically it should be with>

Durvas-atraya.> > I dont understand why to get into plural form when it

explains as a> complete word. I think we get as plural only when some singular

is to> be described as plural. Refer to any standard dictionary and you will>

find Traya as a valid word with out h associated with it.> > I am neither a

expert of Sanskrit nor the Jyotish.It is just a> spontaneous thought process

that is manifested here. But I think it> is worth considering. May be your

right, may be not!> > Thanks a lot for your Time and Space.> > AmolMandar> > >

vedic astrology, GWBrennan@a... wrote:> > Dear

Amolmandar> >> > I am following this interesting discussion about these

meanings. I> can not> > contribute a lot really to the list, but I do follow

what is going> on with much> > interest. About these words -> > Vamsha (or

vansha) - bamboo - fine. In fact it is supposed to be> from the> > resemblance

to the development of the joints in bamboo - as the> bamboo grows> > each of its

sections, and is a general term for lineage. The> specific meanings> > attached

are a social development.> >> > You need to take care with the other attemps at

explaining the> meanings you> > have suggested - gotra is not go + atra - you

can not add an> addional 'a' from> > nowhere to achieve the meaning you are

interested to find. Go> (cow) + tra -> > from root trai to cross (protector -

i.e. one who enables another> to cross over> > an obstacle and referring

ultimately to Krishna) with original> meaning simply> > of cowshed, cowherd or

the like.> >> > Dattatraya is not Datta + traya, it is datta + atraya

(dattaatraya> in> > pronunciation), and> > Atraya should refer to the sage

Atri. However that word (which I> think could> > only be Atrayah - a plural

form) would have a very specific usage -> Dattaatri> > refers to a thunderbolt

(ref. Vayupurana) It has a long vowel, not> a short> > one and the word for the

sage is Dattaatreya (Datta + Aatreya), the> additional> > change from 'a' to 'e'

signifying a descent from the original sage> Atri. If> > the meaning of traya

was three then it would be spelt trayah, there> is no form> > traya as far as I

know.> > Unless you know of a use of Datta + trayah I do not think your> meaning

could> > be possible.> > Regards> > Gordon> > > > Archives:

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