Gems (to Mr. Ernest)

Ognjen [ognjen.pavicevic (AT) zg (DOT) hinet.hr]

Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:33 AMvedic astrologySubject:

Re: [vedic astrology] Gems (to Mr. Ernest)

Dear Ernest,

I have seen in your e-mail from yesterday or so that you recommend gems with low ishta bala.

My understanding was that a gem would intensify malefic results of a planet and

not make him beneficial.

Please clarify.

Thank you in advance.

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June 8, 2003

Dear Ernst Ji,

Thanks for the mail and sharing your experience.

Please tell me, if you had 5 carats instead of 9 carats deep blue

sapphire, your pain would have taken longer than 2 days ?

As you know, some of the gemstones are very expensive and one can not

afford to have higher carat size, hence they go even 1/4 carat or 1/2

carat or 1 carat sizes.

I am trying to understand how this carat's size and its effects are

co-related on a native.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Regards

Rao

vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...>

wrote:

> Dear Ognjen,

> a planet with low Ishta is harmful due to poor rays, so the gem

for

> the planet will brighten its rays. For instance, I have Saturn with

> Ishta of just 7, Saturn caused me great suffering to my back and

neck-

> injuries to both. After wearing a 9 carat deep blue sapphire, all

pain

> dissapeared in 2 days, and has not returned in 8 months.

>

> Saturn is my 7th lord- at that time my wife also quite having the

> headaches that regularly plagued her.

>

> And in answer to the gentleman asking about uncut gems- they work

find

> if good quality and color- my sapphire was in fact uncut. Else how

could

> I afford such a large one.

>

> Jai Ram,

> Ernst Wilhelm

>

> Ognjen [ognjen.pavicevic@z...]

> Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:33 AM

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> Re: [vedic astrology] Gems (to Mr. Ernest)

>

> Dear Ernest,

>

> I have seen in your e-mail from yesterday or so that you recommend

gems

> with low ishta bala.

> My understanding was that a gem would intensify malefic results of a

> planet and not make him beneficial.

>

> Please clarify.

>

> Thank you in advance.

>

> Ognjen

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June 11, 2003

Dear Rao,

I don't know if it would of taken longer to feel effects, morelikely

the effects would not of been as great and it may have takn longer for

All the pain to go away. I have always felt the effect of a gem

signficantly within two days. I always feel a bit better the next

morning, but the real effects in two days. I imagine everyone is

different though and sometimes it can take some time.

I have had results with smaller gems than two carats, but then I always

wore several so the total carat count was quite high. I would not

recommend a total carat count of less than two carats. And of course it

is better to have one big one.

Jai Ram,

Ernst Wilhelm

Rao Nemani [raonemani]

Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:00 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Gems (to Mr. Ernest)

Dear Ernst Ji,

Thanks for the mail and sharing your experience.

Please tell me, if you had 5 carats instead of 9 carats deep blue

sapphire, your pain would have taken longer than 2 days ?

As you know, some of the gemstones are very expensive and one can not

afford to have higher carat size, hence they go even 1/4 carat or 1/2

carat or 1 carat sizes.

I am trying to understand how this carat's size and its effects are

co-related on a native.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Regards

Rao

vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...>

wrote:

> Dear Ognjen,

> a planet with low Ishta is harmful due to poor rays, so the gem

for

> the planet will brighten its rays. For instance, I have Saturn with

> Ishta of just 7, Saturn caused me great suffering to my back and

neck-

> injuries to both. After wearing a 9 carat deep blue sapphire, all

pain

> dissapeared in 2 days, and has not returned in 8 months.

>

> Saturn is my 7th lord- at that time my wife also quite having the

> headaches that regularly plagued her.

>

> And in answer to the gentleman asking about uncut gems- they work

find

> if good quality and color- my sapphire was in fact uncut. Else how

could

> I afford such a large one.

>

> Jai Ram,

> Ernst Wilhelm

>

> Ognjen [ognjen.pavicevic@z...]

> Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:33 AM

<http://rd./M=244522.3313099.4604523.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17

> Re: [vedic astrology] Gems (to Mr. Ernest)

>

> Dear Ernest,

>

> I have seen in your e-mail from yesterday or so that you recommend

gems

> with low ishta bala.

> My understanding was that a gem would intensify malefic results of a

> planet and not make him beneficial.

>

> Please clarify.

>

> Thank you in advance.

>

> Ognjen

>

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June 11, 2003

Dear Ernst Ji,

Thanks for the reply.

I wore a Diamond ring on 6th june ( 5 days ago ). Diamond is about

0.41 Carats with G-VVS1 quality/category.

I felt this itself was expensive, but you are saying, it is better to

have minimum of 2 carats of a gemstone.

In my case with Diamond of 2 carats would be a lot of money and I

could have postponed for a little while.

So the question I would like to ask you is : With 0.41 Carats -vs-

2.0 carats of Diamond: How would be the effects differ and also in

time frame.

After wearing the diamond ring for the last five days I found a

little peace of mind so far.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Regards

Rao

vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...>

wrote:

> Dear Rao,

> I don't know if it would of taken longer to feel effects,

morelikely

> the effects would not of been as great and it may have takn longer

for

> All the pain to go away. I have always felt the effect of a gem

> signficantly within two days. I always feel a bit better the next

> morning, but the real effects in two days. I imagine everyone is

> different though and sometimes it can take some time.

>

> I have had results with smaller gems than two carats, but then I

always

> wore several so the total carat count was quite high. I would not

> recommend a total carat count of less than two carats. And of

course it

> is better to have one big one.

>

> Jai Ram,

> Ernst Wilhelm

>

>

> Rao Nemani [raonemani]

> Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:00 AM

<http://rd./M=244522.3313099.4604523.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17

> [vedic astrology] Re: Gems (to Mr. Ernest)

>

> Dear Ernst Ji,

>

> Thanks for the mail and sharing your experience.

>

> Please tell me, if you had 5 carats instead of 9 carats deep blue

> sapphire, your pain would have taken longer than 2 days ?

>

> As you know, some of the gemstones are very expensive and one can

not

> afford to have higher carat size, hence they go even 1/4 carat or

1/2

> carat or 1 carat sizes.

>

> I am trying to understand how this carat's size and its effects are

> co-related on a native.

>

> Thanks for your help in advance.

>

> Regards

> Rao

>

> vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm"

<ernst@v...>

> wrote:

> > Dear Ognjen,

> > a planet with low Ishta is harmful due to poor rays, so the gem

> for

> > the planet will brighten its rays. For instance, I have Saturn

with

> > Ishta of just 7, Saturn caused me great suffering to my back and

> neck-

> > injuries to both. After wearing a 9 carat deep blue sapphire, all

> pain

> > dissapeared in 2 days, and has not returned in 8 months.

> >

> > Saturn is my 7th lord- at that time my wife also quite having the

> > headaches that regularly plagued her.

> >

> > And in answer to the gentleman asking about uncut gems- they work

> find

> > if good quality and color- my sapphire was in fact uncut. Else how

> could

> > I afford such a large one.

> >

> > Jai Ram,

> > Ernst Wilhelm

> > www.vedic astrology.net

> >

> > Ognjen [ognjen.pavicevic@z...]

> > Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:33 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Gems (to Mr. Ernest)

> >

> > Dear Ernest,

> >

> > I have seen in your e-mail from yesterday or so that you recommend

> gems

> > with low ishta bala.

> > My understanding was that a gem would intensify malefic results

of a

> > planet and not make him beneficial.

> >

> > Please clarify.

> >

> > Thank you in advance.

> >

> > Ognjen

> >

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June 12, 2003

Dear Rao,

I have never worn a gem under 2 carats myself. I have heard other's

say that they felt some effect from diamonds that where smaller. I have

also never reccomended a gem under 2 carats, so I really can't say what

to expect with a .41 carat diamond. Generally, if a gem is working you

should feel like some "weight" has been lifted and need some less sleep.

Jai Ram,

Ernst Wilhelm

Rao Nemani [raonemani]

Wednesday, June 11, 2003 8:32 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: Gems (to Mr. Ernest)

Dear Ernst Ji,

Thanks for the reply.

I wore a Diamond ring on 6th june ( 5 days ago ). Diamond is about

0.41 Carats with G-VVS1 quality/category.

I felt this itself was expensive, but you are saying, it is better to

have minimum of 2 carats of a gemstone.

In my case with Diamond of 2 carats would be a lot of money and I

could have postponed for a little while.

So the question I would like to ask you is : With 0.41 Carats -vs-

2.0 carats of Diamond: How would be the effects differ and also in

time frame.

After wearing the diamond ring for the last five days I found a

little peace of mind so far.

Thanks for your help in advance.

Regards

Rao

vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm" <ernst@v...>

wrote:

> Dear Rao,

> I don't know if it would of taken longer to feel effects,

morelikely

> the effects would not of been as great and it may have takn longer

for

> All the pain to go away. I have always felt the effect of a gem

> signficantly within two days. I always feel a bit better the next

> morning, but the real effects in two days. I imagine everyone is

> different though and sometimes it can take some time.

>

> I have had results with smaller gems than two carats, but then I

always

> wore several so the total carat count was quite high. I would not

> recommend a total carat count of less than two carats. And of

course it

> is better to have one big one.

>

> Jai Ram,

> Ernst Wilhelm

>

>

> Rao Nemani [raonemani]

> Sunday, June 08, 2003 9:00 AM

<http://rd./M=244522.3313099.4604523.1261774/D=egroupweb/S=17

> [vedic astrology] Re: Gems (to Mr. Ernest)

>

> Dear Ernst Ji,

>

> Thanks for the mail and sharing your experience.

>

> Please tell me, if you had 5 carats instead of 9 carats deep blue

> sapphire, your pain would have taken longer than 2 days ?

>

> As you know, some of the gemstones are very expensive and one can

not

> afford to have higher carat size, hence they go even 1/4 carat or

1/2

> carat or 1 carat sizes.

>

> I am trying to understand how this carat's size and its effects are

> co-related on a native.

>

> Thanks for your help in advance.

>

> Regards

> Rao

>

> vedic astrology, "Ernst Wilhelm"

<ernst@v...>

> wrote:

> > Dear Ognjen,

> > a planet with low Ishta is harmful due to poor rays, so the gem

> for

> > the planet will brighten its rays. For instance, I have Saturn

with

> > Ishta of just 7, Saturn caused me great suffering to my back and

> neck-

> > injuries to both. After wearing a 9 carat deep blue sapphire, all

> pain

> > dissapeared in 2 days, and has not returned in 8 months.

> >

> > Saturn is my 7th lord- at that time my wife also quite having the

> > headaches that regularly plagued her.

> >

> > And in answer to the gentleman asking about uncut gems- they work

> find

> > if good quality and color- my sapphire was in fact uncut. Else how

> could

> > I afford such a large one.

> >

> > Jai Ram,

> > Ernst Wilhelm

> > www.vedic astrology.net

> >

> > Ognjen [ognjen.pavicevic@z...]

> > Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:33 AM

> > vedic astrology

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Gems (to Mr. Ernest)

> >

> > Dear Ernest,

> >

> > I have seen in your e-mail from yesterday or so that you recommend

> gems

> > with low ishta bala.

> > My understanding was that a gem would intensify malefic results

of a

> > planet and not make him beneficial.

> >

> > Please clarify.

> >

> > Thank you in advance.

> >

> > Ognjen

> >

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June 18, 2003

Dear Ernst jee

I am currently under the influence of Saturn, who is not favorable placed in my

birth chart (this is the last phase of 2.5years) would wearing a 2 or 3 carat

blue sapphire be of any use complied with mantras to shani or to hanuman 1st?

would rurdam chamakam be beneficial too?

please advise

sharma

-

Ernst Wilhelm

Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:15 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Gems (to Mr. Ernest)

Dear Ognjen,

a planet with low Ishta is harmful due to poor rays, so the gem for the planet

will brighten its rays. For instance, I have Saturn with Ishta of just 7, Saturn

caused me great suffering to my back and neck- injuries to both. After wearing a

9 carat deep blue sapphire, all pain dissapeared in 2 days, and has not returned

in 8 months.

Saturn is my 7th lord- at that time my wife also quite having the headaches that

regularly plagued her.

And in answer to the gentleman asking about uncut gems- they work find if good

quality and color- my sapphire was in fact uncut. Else how could I afford such

a large one.

Jai Ram,

Ernst Wilhelm

Ognjen [ognjen.pavicevic (AT) zg (DOT) hinet.hr]

Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:33 AMvedic astrologySubject:

Re: [vedic astrology] Gems (to Mr. Ernest)

Dear Ernest,

I have seen in your e-mail from yesterday or so that you recommend gems with low ishta bala.

My understanding was that a gem would intensify malefic results of a planet and

not make him beneficial.

Please clarify.

Thank you in advance.

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June 18, 2003

Hi,

I don’t know i qualified to suggest you some thing or

not. If any thing wrong gurus pl forgive me. But

instead of opposing sani u can please him by keeping

Saturday fasting. Give annadhan to a person who don’t

have leg on every Saturday. (give food to a person who

don’t have legs on Saturday)& on Saturday morning

(rice with tihill) feed to crows . this is simple

remedy. If you want wear blue stone. But the stone

alone for testing the stone while sleeping u can

keep it under your pillows. By dream it will show you

weather its suitable for you or not .

(since I am not a learned astrologer do this after

some gurus suggestion. Iam sure they will help you).

Hari om namo narayana, adi narayana ,lakshmi narayana

n.rajagoopalan

--- Jaihitu1981 <jaihitu1981 wrote:

> MessageDear Ernst jee

>

> I am currently under the influence of Saturn, who is

> not favorable placed in my birth chart (this is the

> last phase of 2.5years) would wearing a 2 or 3 carat

> blue sapphire be of any use complied with mantras to

> shani or to hanuman 1st?

> would rurdam chamakam be beneficial too?

> please advise

> sharma

> -

> Ernst Wilhelm

> Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:15 PM

> RE: [vedic astrology] Gems (to Mr.

> Ernest)

>

> Dear Ognjen,

> a planet with low Ishta is harmful due to poor

> rays, so the gem for the planet will brighten its

> rays. For instance, I have Saturn with Ishta of just

> 7, Saturn caused me great suffering to my back and

> neck- injuries to both. After wearing a 9 carat deep

> blue sapphire, all pain dissapeared in 2 days, and

> has not returned in 8 months.

>

> Saturn is my 7th lord- at that time my wife also

> quite having the headaches that regularly plagued

> her.

>

> And in answer to the gentleman asking about uncut

> gems- they work find if good quality and color- my

> sapphire was in fact uncut. Else how could I afford

> such a large one.

>

> Jai Ram,

> Ernst Wilhelm

>

> Ognjen

> [ognjen.pavicevic]

> Sunday, June 08, 2003 12:33 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Gems (to Mr.

> Ernest)

>

> Dear Ernest,

>

> I have seen in your e-mail from yesterday or so

> that you recommend gems with low ishta bala.

> My understanding was that a gem would intensify

> malefic results of a planet and not make him

> beneficial.

>

> Please clarify.

>

> Thank you in advance.

>

> Ognjen

>

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June 19, 2003

Dear Sharma,

don't have your chart so I can't say if that would be the best stone for you-

you can send your details. If you are in the habit of meditation and your

concentration has been developed as a result, then Mantras will generally give

better results. But then that depends on your chart as well, and what exactly

you want to improve.

Jai Ram,

Ernst Wilhelm

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vedic astrologySubject: Re: [vedic astrology] Gems (to Mr.

Ernest)

Dear Ernst jee

I am currently under the influence of Saturn, who is not favorable placed in my

birth chart (this is the last phase of 2.5years) would wearing a 2 or 3 carat

blue sapphire be of any use complied with mantras to shani or to hanuman 1st?

would rurdam chamakam be beneficial too?

please advise

sharma

-

Ernst Wilhelm

Sunday, June 08, 2003 11:15 PM

RE: [vedic astrology] Gems (to Mr. Ernest)

Dear Ognjen,

a planet with low Ishta is harmful due to poor rays, so the gem for the planet

will brighten its rays. For instance, I have Saturn with Ishta of just 7, Saturn

caused me great suffering to my back and neck- injuries to both. After wearing a

9 carat deep blue sapphire, all pain dissapeared in 2 days, and has not returned

in 8 months.

Saturn is my 7th lord- at that time my wife also quite having the headaches that

regularly plagued her.

And in answer to the gentleman asking about uncut gems- they work find if good

quality and color- my sapphire was in fact uncut. Else how could I afford such

a large one.

Jai Ram,

Ernst Wilhelm