Graha drishti and Rashi drishti

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Dear Shri Chandrashekharji,

 

I have some doubts about about the drishtis. I shall

appreciate if you can kindly explain to me when one

uses Graha drishti and when does one use Rashi

drishti.

 

Are the Graha drishtis used primarily in Rasi chart

and Graha drishtis in Divisional charts? If both are

to be used in all charts how do I choose the relevant

one in a given situation.

 

Kind Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

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Dear Ramesh,

Usually I do not comment on which drishty is to be used where. The reason is

that some astrologers use them and some do not. The texts are not clear about

when to use them is also a factor.However, I know you as seeker of knowledge

hence my comments are below. Others might have different views.

It has been my practice to try to understand the reason behind any statement

made in the texts, regarding yogas, drishties Padas,Argalas Vedhas

Ashtakavargas etc before applying them. It is my habit not to use a system

without fully understanding it, call it idiosynchracy of the old.

It is my opinion that various systems were deviced by various Pravartakas

and Acharyas to arrive at the same truth. Think of them as different routes to

ultimate truth. One should use the one that he is most comfortable with, and

gets fair percentage of results with.

Having said that, I personally use Grahadrishty only(In Natal Charts, as I

take strength of planets only from the Vargas or divisional chats), I do not

even take into account the drishty of Rahu/Ketu. The reason is that the last

two are chayagrahas (or nodal points and not Grahas in the sense that the

Planets are), and even their house ownerships and exaltation position are given

as different by different Authorities.

Coming to rasi drishties, these are fixed drishties, and do not change

according to the time of birth of the Jataka, barring in case of drishties of

planets in them are considered. This would tend to, in a way, defeat the very

foundation of Jyotish if applied to natal or Divisional charts, is my way of

thinking.

Now this would again create a contradiction whether the sages were wrong? No

they were not. When such situation arises the shashtras tell us to reconcile

between two apparently opposite statements if both come from the sages. So, I

go to the paraspara karaka scheme to understand why Graha drishties are

mentioned by the sages. Having done that, and the fact that they are fixed,

what I do is to use them only for planets placed in them when considering

results of transits with respect to planets in natal chart Natal Chart and

Vimshottari Dashas. This, reconciles all the various systems of drishties given

by the sages and reconciliation takes place with Tajika system too( if you see

the aspects treated as benefic in that system).

An example is when Transit Jupiter forms square with natal Jupiter in dual

signs, indicating posibility of geting results of house influenced by Natal

Jupiter.

Again it is said that proof of the pudding is in eating. So one should find

out for himself by applying the principles to various chart and decide what

system he can implement.

Another reason that I prefer the use of griha drishty in this particular

fashion si something that is very personal, and some may dispute the logic

behind it. The reason is that I prefer to remain as unbiased as possible when

analysing a chart. If my predictions fail I prefer to find out where I have

gone wrong in application of the principles. Now ,in my opinion, what happens

when one's prediction goes wrong is, that there is a tendency to delve in to

other varied factrs not looked into earlier like Graha drishties, Padas,

Karakamshas, Ashtakvargas, Various Dasha systems, Argalas, Vedhas, Awasthas,

sandhis , gandantas,counting in sayva or Apasavya fashion, Curses and doshas

etc.not applied earlier, and try to justify one's predictions. Some times one

may be tempted to take recourse to the factors mentioned in earlier sentence,

to make the horoscope fit the perceived personality of a jataka who one thinks

is known to one.

I prefer to admit my mistake or inability to properly apply the system I

follow and find out where I have gone wrong as this practice invariably teaches

me a lot.

However this is my personal view and I am also aware that there are many who can

handle all these systems to get the results. I go by the Dictum of Lord Krishna

where he says "Swdhame NidhanaM shreshtha..." modified to this sort of

situation.

I hope this helps you to some extent.

Chandrashekhar.

 

 

-

Ramesh F. Gangaramani

vedic astrology

Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:46 AM

[vedic astrology] Graha drishti and Rashi drishti

Dear Shri Chandrashekharji,I have some doubts about about the drishtis. I

shallappreciate if you can kindly explain to me when oneuses Graha drishti and

when does one use Rashidrishti. Are the Graha drishtis used primarily in Rasi

chartand Graha drishtis in Divisional charts? If both areto be used in all

charts how do I choose the relevantone in a given situation. Kind

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Dear Shri Chandrashekharji,

 

Thank you very much for the efforts you have taken to

explain the concept and your view point.

 

Kind regards

Ramesh

 

--- Chandrashekhar <boxdel wrote:

> Dear Ramesh,

> Usually I do not comment on which drishty is to

> be used where. The reason is that some astrologers

> use them and some do not. The texts are not clear

> about when to use them is also a factor.However, I

> know you as seeker of knowledge hence my comments

> are below. Others might have different views.

> It has been my practice to try to understand the

> reason behind any statement made in the texts,

> regarding yogas, drishties Padas,Argalas Vedhas

> Ashtakavargas etc before applying them. It is my

> habit not to use a system without fully

> understanding it, call it idiosynchracy of the old.

> It is my opinion that various systems were

> deviced by various Pravartakas and Acharyas to

> arrive at the same truth. Think of them as different

> routes to ultimate truth. One should use the one

> that he is most comfortable with, and gets fair

> percentage of results with.

> Having said that, I personally use Grahadrishty

> only(In Natal Charts, as I take strength of planets

> only from the Vargas or divisional chats), I do not

> even take into account the drishty of Rahu/Ketu. The

> reason is that the last two are chayagrahas (or

> nodal points and not Grahas in the sense that the

> Planets are), and even their house ownerships and

> exaltation position are given as different by

> different Authorities.

> Coming to rasi drishties, these are fixed

> drishties, and do not change according to the time

> of birth of the Jataka, barring in case of drishties

> of planets in them are considered. This would tend

> to, in a way, defeat the very foundation of Jyotish

> if applied to natal or Divisional charts, is my way

> of thinking.

> Now this would again create a contradiction

> whether the sages were wrong? No they were not. When

> such situation arises the shashtras tell us to

> reconcile between two apparently opposite statements

> if both come from the sages. So, I go to the

> paraspara karaka scheme to understand why Graha

> drishties are mentioned by the sages. Having done

> that, and the fact that they are fixed, what I do is

> to use them only for planets placed in them when

> considering results of transits with respect to

> planets in natal chart Natal Chart and Vimshottari

> Dashas. This, reconciles all the various systems of

> drishties given by the sages and reconciliation

> takes place with Tajika system too( if you see the

> aspects treated as benefic in that system).

> An example is when Transit Jupiter forms square

> with natal Jupiter in dual signs, indicating

> posibility of geting results of house influenced by

> Natal Jupiter.

> Again it is said that proof of the pudding is in

> eating. So one should find out for himself by

> applying the principles to various chart and decide

> what system he can implement.

> Another reason that I prefer the use of griha

> drishty in this particular fashion si something that

> is very personal, and some may dispute the logic

> behind it. The reason is that I prefer to remain as

> unbiased as possible when analysing a chart. If my

> predictions fail I prefer to find out where I have

> gone wrong in application of the principles. Now ,in

> my opinion, what happens when one's prediction goes

> wrong is, that there is a tendency to delve in to

> other varied factrs not looked into earlier like

> Graha drishties, Padas, Karakamshas, Ashtakvargas,

> Various Dasha systems, Argalas, Vedhas, Awasthas,

> sandhis , gandantas,counting in sayva or Apasavya

> fashion, Curses and doshas etc.not applied earlier,

> and try to justify one's predictions. Some times one

> may be tempted to take recourse to the factors

> mentioned in earlier sentence, to make the horoscope

> fit the perceived personality of a jataka who one

> thinks is known to one.

> I prefer to admit my mistake or inability to

> properly apply the system I follow and find out

> where I have gone wrong as this practice invariably

> teaches me a lot.

> However this is my personal view and I am also aware

> that there are many who can handle all these systems

> to get the results. I go by the Dictum of Lord

> Krishna where he says "Swdhame NidhanaM

> shreshtha..." modified to this sort of situation.

> I hope this helps you to some extent.

> Chandrashekhar.

>

>

> -

> Ramesh F. Gangaramani

> vedic astrology

> Sunday, June 08, 2003 10:46 AM

> [vedic astrology] Graha drishti and Rashi

> drishti

>

>

> Dear Shri Chandrashekharji,

>

> I have some doubts about about the drishtis. I

> shall

> appreciate if you can kindly explain to me when

> one

> uses Graha drishti and when does one use Rashi

> drishti.

>

> Are the Graha drishtis used primarily in Rasi

> chart

> and Graha drishtis in Divisional charts? If both

> are

> to be used in all charts how do I choose the

> relevant

> one in a given situation.

>

> Kind Regards

> Ramesh

>

>

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|Hare Rama Krishna|

Dear Ramesh,

I have been taught a different approach to Dristi's than the one Chandrashekar has given.

 

Rasi Dristi

First of all Dristi means sight, or 'to see', and this is important in

classifying what dristi can do. The western world has started terming this as

'aspects' which doesn't serve the purpose, and maybe used in a different

context.

 

See Rasi dristi is based on circumstances, pure and simple. If a planet occupies

a house, then the Rasi dristi it shares with other signs/houses, will indicate

the surrounding houses. Or in a sense a 'neighborhood'.

 

So we need to indicate what type of neighborhood this is. If only malefics

reside in the neighborhood then its not very auspicious for us, and we may get

some stress due to this. If benefics, then we will feel pleased to live among

good people. Hence Rasi Dristi is a window through which we can literally see

the outside circumstances. We cannot see anymore than that.

 

Hence it is through these windows, or sight that we can gather resources or

opportunities. This is very important when we start talking of strengths and

also deciding our available resources.

There is some adition of Abhimukha Rasi in this, which could be dwelved on later on.

 

Graha dristi

Now Graha dristi will show the individual traits of the graha. What it wants, to

be specific. Malefics have intense desires, and wanted them all fulfilled

yesterday.. they will not wait. Hence an easy prediction is that the graha

dristi of a malefic graha on any house will cause pain related to that house.

 

Benefics will be otherwise. The intensity of the desire can be decided from the

planets chesta bala, and for this we need to learn the motions of planets..

refer BPHS.

 

Now since Graha dristi shows desires, it will also show interested people. i.e.

planets having graha dristi on the 11th from the Arudha Lagna will show those

people who are interested in your material gains, whilst those having Rasi

dristi will actually substantiate your material gains.

 

Example

+--------------+| |Ju |Ma

Ve |As Su || | |HL |Ra ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||SaR GL |

|Me ||Md | | ||

| | || | |

|| | | ||-----------|

Rasi |-----------||Gk | |Mo AL ||

| | || |

| A7 || | | || |

|

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ke | |

| || | | | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

|+--------------+

In the given chart the native had established a business, with two other parties.

 

Business is seen from the Darapada (A7) and in this chart the A7 falls in Leo.

 

Leo contains the Moon, and recieves the Rasi dristi of Jupiter, hence these show

the two people involved in the business, or actual business partners. Whilst

Moon is more indicative of the closer partner, Jupiter shows a more distant

role of the partner.

 

Now the Darapada recieves Graha Dristi from Saturn in Aqua and Mars in Taurus.

This shows the interested parties in the business, or those who reap benefit

from the business and are not an immediate part of it. Saturn indicates

entrepeneurs and those charge of storage.

Mars indicates engineers or possibly suppliers.

 

The native was one of the biggest computer-suppliers in Asia. The involvement of

exports (rahu) and imports (ketu) on an international scheme (Sun) can clearly

be seen from the Rasi dristi of planets on Gemini, which is the 11th from his

Arudha Lagna.

 

 

I hope this example goes to show the importance of the two dristi's in

predicting even the most mundane of events. When we go into divisional charts,

the exact details of the two dristis becomes revealed very easily, one must

just understand the context.

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Dear Vistiji,

 

Thank you for your valuable explanation. It enhances

my learning. I am sure it will benefit others like me

too.

 

Kind Regards

Ramesh

 

--- Visti Larsen <vishnu wrote:

> |Hare Rama Krishna|

> Dear Ramesh,

> I have been taught a different approach to Dristi's

> than the one Chandrashekar has given.

>

> Rasi Dristi

> First of all Dristi means sight, or 'to see', and

> this is important in classifying what dristi can do.

> The western world has started terming this as

> 'aspects' which doesn't serve the purpose, and maybe

> used in a different context.

>

> See Rasi dristi is based on circumstances, pure and

> simple. If a planet occupies a house, then the Rasi

> dristi it shares with other signs/houses, will

> indicate the surrounding houses. Or in a sense a

> 'neighborhood'.

>

> So we need to indicate what type of neighborhood

> this is. If only malefics reside in the neighborhood

> then its not very auspicious for us, and we may get

> some stress due to this. If benefics, then we will

> feel pleased to live among good people. Hence Rasi

> Dristi is a window through which we can literally

> see the outside circumstances. We cannot see anymore

> than that.

>

> Hence it is through these windows, or sight that we

> can gather resources or opportunities. This is very

> important when we start talking of strengths and

> also deciding our available resources.

> There is some adition of Abhimukha Rasi in this,

> which could be dwelved on later on.

>

> Graha dristi

> Now Graha dristi will show the individual traits of

> the graha. What it wants, to be specific. Malefics

> have intense desires, and wanted them all fulfilled

> yesterday.. they will not wait. Hence an easy

> prediction is that the graha dristi of a malefic

> graha on any house will cause pain related to that

> house.

>

> Benefics will be otherwise. The intensity of the

> desire can be decided from the planets chesta bala,

> and for this we need to learn the motions of

> planets.. refer BPHS.

>

> Now since Graha dristi shows desires, it will also

> show interested people. i.e. planets having graha

> dristi on the 11th from the Arudha Lagna will show

> those people who are interested in your material

> gains, whilst those having Rasi dristi will actually

> substantiate your material gains.

>

> Example

> +--------------+

> | |Ju |Ma Ve |As Su |

> | | |HL |Ra |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> |SaR GL | |Me |

> |Md | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-----------| Rasi |-----------|

> |Gk | |Mo AL |

> | | | |

> | | | A7 |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> |Ke | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> +--------------+

>

> In the given chart the native had established a

> business, with two other parties.

>

> Business is seen from the Darapada (A7) and in this

> chart the A7 falls in Leo.

>

> Leo contains the Moon, and recieves the Rasi dristi

> of Jupiter, hence these show the two people involved

> in the business, or actual business partners. Whilst

> Moon is more indicative of the closer partner,

> Jupiter shows a more distant role of the partner.

>

> Now the Darapada recieves Graha Dristi from Saturn

> in Aqua and Mars in Taurus. This shows the

> interested parties in the business, or those who

> reap benefit from the business and are not an

> immediate part of it. Saturn indicates entrepeneurs

> and those charge of storage.

> Mars indicates engineers or possibly suppliers.

>

> The native was one of the biggest computer-suppliers

> in Asia. The involvement of exports (rahu) and

> imports (ketu) on an international scheme (Sun) can

> clearly be seen from the Rasi dristi of planets on

> Gemini, which is the 11th from his Arudha Lagna.

>

>

> I hope this example goes to show the importance of

> the two dristi's in predicting even the most mundane

> of events. When we go into divisional charts, the

> exact details of the two dristis becomes revealed

> very easily, one must just understand the context.

>

> Best wishes

> Visti

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