Guest guest Posted May 25, 2003 Report Share Posted May 25, 2003 Dear All , In case of Kalasarpa yog , we are treating Rahu and Ketu as the axis rather than treating them as separate entities . Which are the other instances where Rahu and Ketu are treated as axis rather than separate ? Also in this case will wearing the two stones together be a possible remedy ? Please let me know ? Thanks in advance. Regards , Anand ---------- ---------------------- Consultant - Training , HR and Development Integration is essence of life . email : hmm_aha Integration leads to understanding and development of potential . worksimplification growthanddevelopment http://www.selfgrowth.com/articles/Ghurye1.html ---------- ---------------------- - Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000 <vedic astrology> Saturday, May 24, 2003 1:45 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone Combination: Lagna Lord in 12th/Bhagyodaya... > Dear Chandershekharji, > Well you are right the topic should be :whether Lagnadhipati in 12th > can indicate Bhagyodaya in "distant lands"... > > (Let us all keep this in our minds. What happens is that Bhagyodaya > in foreign lands is also a linked topic and the two got mixed up due > to all those shlokas linked to 12th house and that was unintentional > on my part. Its human nature to investigate in all directions.(we can > take up this 12th house things in a future discussion, if necessary.)) > > Also my birth data is already on the list and here its again below. I > would be interested to get your comments(especially around 1982-1986 > period), so that we all can learn something. Thanks and Regards. > Rajesh Kumaria > > -- > These calculations were made using the free "Jagannatha Hora Lite" > software, which can be downloaded from the website of its author > P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (www.VedicAstrologer.org) or from the website > of Sri Jagannath Centre (www.SriJagannath.org). > -- > > rajeshkumaria > > Natal Chart > > July 20, 1961 > Time: 9:50:00 pm > Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT) > Place: 80 E 55' 00", 26 N 51' 00" > Lucknow, India > Altitude: 0.00 meters > > Lunar Yr-Mo: Plava - Ashadha > Tithi: Sukla Ashtami (Ra) (77.88% left) > Weekday: Thursday (Ju) > Nakshatra: Chitra (Ma) (42.26% left) > Yoga: Siddha (Ke) > Karana: Vishti (Sa) > Hora Lord: Sun (5 min sign: Sc) > Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Cp) > Kaala Lord: Sun (Mahakala: Sun) > > Sunrise: 5:27:07 am > Sunset: 6:57:35 pm > Janma Ghatis: 40.9533 > > Ayanamsa: 23-19-03.15 > Sidereal Time: 17:36:29 > > Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa > > Lagna 28 Aq 29' 18.10" PBha 3 Aq Ge > Sun - PK 4 Cn 22' 43.09" Push 1 Cn Le > Moon - DK 1 Li 01' 57.54" Chit 3 Li Li > Mars - BK 19 Le 41' 06.95" PPha 2 Le Vi > Mercury - MK 14 Ge 12' 19.84" Ardr 3 Ge Aq > Jupiter ® - PiK 9 Cp 31' 51.03" USha 4 Cp Pi > Venus - AmK 21 Ta 09' 04.35" Rohi 4 Ta Cn > Saturn ® - GK 3 Cp 07' 46.27" USha 2 Cp Cp > Rahu - AK 5 Le 23' 53.29" Makh 2 Le Ta > Ketu 5 Aq 23' 53.29" Dhan 4 Aq Sc > Maandi 19 Ta 36' 57.53" Rohi 3 Ta Ge > Gulika 9 Ta 23' 08.09" Krit 4 Ta Pi > Bhava Lagna 9 Pi 26' 49.40" UBha 2 Pi Vi > Hora Lagna 15 Sc 10' 01.02" Anu 4 Sc Sc > Ghati Lagna 2 Sg 19' 35.87" Mool 1 Sg Ar > Vighati Lagna 28 Aq 07' 30.11" PBha 3 Aq Ge > Varnada Lagna 13 Li 39' 19.12" Swat 3 Li Aq > Sree Lagna 26 Vi 22' 11.62" Chit 1 Vi Le > Dhooma 17 Sc 42' 43.09" Jye 1 Sc Sg > Vyatipata 12 Le 17' 16.91" Makh 4 Le Cn > Parivesha 12 Aq 17' 16.91" Sata 2 Aq Cp > Indra Chapa 17 Ta 42' 43.09" Rohi 3 Ta Ge > Upaketu 4 Ge 22' 43.09" Mrig 4 Ge Sc > Kaala 25 Ge 54' 21.70" Puna 2 Ge Ta > Mrityu 9 Aq 59' 26.86" Sata 1 Aq Sg > Artha Prahara 7 Pi 02' 22.56" UBha 2 Pi Vi > Yama Ghantaka 4 Ar 02' 52.57" Aswi 2 Ar Ta > > Rasi > +--------------+ > | \ / \ SaR / | > | \ / \ JuR / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Ke \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | x As x AL GL | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Md \ 11 / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Ve x HL | > | \ / \ / | > | \ Gk / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Ra \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Me x Ma x Mo | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Su \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > +--------------+ > > Navamsa > +--------------+ > | \ / \ / | > | \ Ve / \ Ra / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / Md \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Su x As x GL | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ 3 / Gk \ | > | / \ / \ | > | Ma x JuR | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > | \ / \ / | > |Mo AL x x Me | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / \ / \ | > | / Ke \ / SaR \ | > | / HL \ / \ | > +--------------+ > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon): > > Mar Mar 1957-07-05 Rah 1957-12-01 Jup 1958-12-20 > Sat 1959-11-26 Mer 1961-01-03 Ket 1962-01-01 > Ven 1962-05-30 Sun 1963-07-30 Moo 1963-12-05 > Rah Rah 1964-07-05 Jup 1967-03-18 Sat 1969-08-10 > Mer 1972-06-16 Ket 1975-01-04 Ven 1976-01-22 > Sun 1979-01-22 Moo 1979-12-17 Mar 1981-06-17 > Jup Jup 1982-07-05 Sat 1984-08-22 Mer 1987-03-06 > Ket 1989-06-10 Ven 1990-05-17 Sun 1993-01-15 > Moo 1993-11-04 Mar 1995-03-06 Rah 1996-02-09 > Sat Sat 1998-07-05 Mer 2001-07-08 Ket 2004-03-17 > Ven 2005-04-26 Sun 2008-06-25 Moo 2009-06-07 > Mar 2011-01-07 Rah 2012-02-15 Jup 2014-12-22 > Mer Mer 2017-07-05 Ket 2019-12-01 Ven 2020-11-27 > Sun 2023-09-28 Moo 2024-08-04 Mar 2026-01-03 > Rah 2026-12-31 Jup 2029-07-20 Sat 2031-10-26 > Ket Ket 2034-07-05 Ven 2034-12-01 Sun 2036-01-31 > Moo 2036-06-07 Mar 2037-01-06 Rah 2037-06-04 > Jup 2038-06-23 Sat 2039-05-29 Mer 2040-07-07 > Ven Ven 2041-07-04 Sun 2044-11-03 Moo 2045-11-03 > Mar 2047-07-05 Rah 2048-09-03 Jup 2051-09-04 > Sat 2054-05-05 Mer 2057-07-04 Ket 2060-05-04 > Sun Sun 2061-07-04 Moo 2061-10-22 Mar 2062-04-22 > Rah 2062-08-28 Jup 2063-07-23 Sat 2064-05-10 > Mer 2065-04-22 Ket 2066-02-27 Ven 2066-07-04 > Moo Moo 2067-07-05 Mar 2068-05-04 Rah 2068-12-03 > Jup 2070-06-04 Sat 2071-10-04 Mer 2073-05-04 > Ket 2074-10-04 Ven 2075-05-05 Sun 2077-01-03 > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > <boxdel> wrote: > > Dear Rajesh, > > Whenever a principle is cited about astrology, two factors are > involved. One is that strength or debilitation of the planet named > and of the Bhava concerned is assumed as per the context of a yoga . > Second is that it is assumed that on a jyotish list the principle > that for happening of events the Maha/Antar dashas have to operate > with related Transit position of Major planets like Jupiter, Lagnesh > and Saturn at the right age are understood. > > Unless all three happen at a given time the yoga might mot > fructify. You will probably rememberthat I had given birth chart > details of Lokamanya Bal Gangadhar Tilak's son who despite having 3 > exalted planets commited suicide by jumping in front of Poona Mail. > The appropriate Dashas having come before his correct age his Father > no doubt became one of the greatest leaders and got fame > Internationally. > > Mere existence of yoga in a horoscope does not necessarily give > results unless all three conditions (Natlal,Dashas and Transits) are > met. If you want to find out why you did not go abroad(presuming you > did not) it would be better to post your chart so that all on the > list could contribute and our knowledge grows. I would suggest find > out whether your moon is in 7th,9th,10th or11th. > > About your discussions with Amol Mandar I am posting separate mail > as suggested by you. > > Chandrashekhar. > > - > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > > vedic astrology > > Friday, May 23, 2003 7:50 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone Combination: Lagna Lord > in 12th/Bhagyodaya... > > > > > > Dear Chandershekhar ji, > > Well I agree with your concepts theoretically, but in real life > there > > are several people who have Lagna Lord in 12th and are still > working > > and prospering in different parts of India, away from their > childhood > > or birth place? For example long time back, I had worked for 36 > > months in 4 different locations, which were 200 to 400 miles away > > from my childhood city. My lagna lord is also in the 12th. So in > my > > case, it would mean a distant place and not another country. Also > it > > would be helpful to know what constitutes bhagyodaya in a foreign > > land, which is a linked subject here. In a separate email chain, > > myself and AmolMandar have mentioned various BPHS shlokas linked > to > > 12th house. I will appreciate getting your comments on that. > > Thanks and Regards > > Rajesh Kumaria. > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > > <boxdel> wrote: > > > Dear Rajesh, > > > What we tend to forget is that a country other than your birth > > place has different laws and one who leaves his country and goes > to > > other country has a status less than that of citizen of the host > > country, no matter one's fianancial status. Therefore distance is > not > > relevant here. In the times you are talking about, people had to > put > > in as much resources and time to travel 50 miles as we are when > we > > travel say from India to Dubai. > > > The yogas are clear. It is other country. Remember that in > ancient > > times maximum punishment barring death penalty was to banish a > > citizen form the King's country. You should be to see the > connection > > with 12th house now. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > - > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria > > > vedic astrology > > > Thursday, May 22, 2003 8:31 AM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone Combination: Lagna > Lord > > in 12th/Bhagyodaya... > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandershekhar JI, > > > > > > Sorry for this intereference in your discussions..Can we > safely > > make > > > an interpretation that Lagna Lord in 12th can also indicate > > > prosperity/financial success at a far away place(from place > of > > > birth ) in India, which could be 50/500 miles away from birth > > place? > > > The reason being that one time India had over 5000 kingdoms > and > > so > > > during such times, foreign land could also mean another part > of > > India > > > i.e, living in a different kngdom, other than birth kngdom. I > am > > > assuming that astrological rules were written 5000 to 7000 > years > > ago > > > and thousands of kngdoms existed at that time. Please correct > me, > > if > > > I am wrong. I am also taking the liberty of changing the > subject > > > heading slightly, if you do not mind Sir. > > > Regards. > > > Rajesh Kumaria. > > > > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > > > <boxdel> wrote: > > > > Dear Hari, > > > > Bhagyodaya is rise in fortune. In you brother's case which > you > > have > > > cited, Lagna lord is positied with 3rd and 6th lord. Other > House > > > lords are also in different positions.The results would > therefore > > be > > > different. Again his Mahadasha times has to arrive for a > yoga, > > if > > > any to fructify and nature of the Planets themselves would > also > > > modify the results. > > > > Let us wait and see what Rajeshwari has to say. > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > - > > > > onlyhari > > > > vedic astrology > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:02 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone Combination > > > > > > > > > > > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah--- > > > > Dear Shri Chandrasekhar, > > > > > > > > You mentioned that "Lagna lord in 12th indicates getting > your > > > > bhagyodaya in places distant from your birthplace and > that > > you > > > will > > > > be independent" > > > > > > > > What is the meaning of bhagyodaya? Does it refer to > earnings? > > My > > > > brother has 1st lord in 12th conjoined along with 5th > lord > > and > > > 3&6th > > > > lord. In addition, he has 9th&12th lord in 2nd, 4th lord > in > > 9th > > > and > > > > 7th lord in 10th. You would probably say that my brother > > would be > > > > better off earning his money in foreign land, isnt it? > But > > the > > > real > > > > story is that my brother has made umpteen attempts since > his > > > > graduation to find a job outside India and never once has > > > succeeded > > > > (not even to the extent of getting an interview call!). > > However > > > he > > > > is successful in his own right within India. > > > > > > > > I remember Shri Sanjay Rath saying that 12th house is the > > house > > > of > > > > foriegn residence, 9th the house of long foriegn travels > > (12th is > > > > 4th from 9th) and 7th the house of short term business > trips > > > (12th > > > > is 6th from 7th) and lagna lord in 12th blocks efforts in > > that > > > > direction. Could this be the reason for the case > described > > above? > > > > What are your comments? > > > > > > > > regards > > > > Hari > > > > > > > > > > > > -- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > > > > <boxdel> wrote: > > > > > Dear Rajeshwari, > > > > > The chart that I have drawn makes me ask you two > questions. > > How > > > is > > > > your Martu and Pitrusukha? and obviously possessed of a > good > > > > analytical capacity,are you subject to mood swings(Lord > of > > 5th > > > moon > > > > afflicted by Ketu in 3rd). Lord of ascendant in 12th > > indicates > > > your > > > > getting your bhagyodaya in lands distant from birth place > and > > > that > > > > you will be independent. Unexpected developments > regarding > > > sources > > > > of earnings also appears to be the norm rather than the > > > exception, > > > > here. > > > > > The chart , otherwise is quite strong with Gajakesari > Yoga, > > > Mars > > > > in 10th in digbala and Jupiter aspectig Saturn and Saturn > > > aspecting > > > > both Jupiterian houses indicating spiritual leanings but > with > > > thrust > > > > on rituals as Mars aspects the ascendant. > > > > > By the way I think the first remark of being 2 days > older > > is > > > > addressed to Prakash, I am also January born but on 26th > of > > it > > > but > > > > many years earlier. > > > > > Let me know how far I am off the mark. > > > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Privacy Policy > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- > > astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > ....... 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