Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Ramapriya, Namaste. I'm afraid I have to disappoint you. Yamaraja is said to be one of the 12 Mahajanas or great teachers of the universe, coupled with personalities like Lord Brahma, Lord Siva, Narada Muni, the 4 Kumaras, Lord Kapiladeva, Svayambhuva Manu, Pralhada Maharaja, Janaka Maharaja, Bhismadeva, Bali Maharaja, Sukadeva Goswami, and Lord Yamaraja is the 12th. So all these persons are great devotees of the Lord, and they show us how to surrender to Krishna. Yamaraja punishes the sinful souls by giving them the reaction of their sins. In Jyotish, Saturn is also called the brother of Yama. So the influence of Yama is likew that of Saturn. He is not evil, he just gives what we deserve, in order to teach us to follow Dharma. Interestingly, Sarturn is said to be the son of Surya and his wife Chaya (shadow), so sinful reacions are like the shadow of dharma. According to Srimad Bhagavatam Yamaraja is the son of Svaaymbhuva Manu. Of course the other version is also supported there: (SB. 6.6.40-41) "Samjna, the wife of Vivasvan, the sun-god, gave birth to the Manu named Sraddhadeva, and the same fortunate wife also gave birth to the twins Yamaraja and the River Yamuna. Then Yami, while wandering on the earth in the form of a mare, gave birth to the Asvini-kumaras.Chaya, another wife of the sun-god, begot two sons named Sanaiscara and Savarni Manu, and one daughter, Tapati, who married Samvarana." So it appears that Yama and Sani are only stepbrothers, meaning that their father is the same, but mothers are different, Samjna for Yama and Chaya for Sani. Regarding the Sun's marriage I found the following extract on the site VedicSaktis.com: The Sun, Surya was married to Samjna and she bore him three children. Because of the Sun's unbearable brilliance Samjna left him and left Chaya (shadow) in her place as wife, while she goes off to contemplate her marriage. Because the Sun is so bright, and at the same time not bright enough, as the saying goes, he does not discover this deception until Chaya, the shadow wife, has bore him three more children. Enraged he goes to his father-in-law to find what has happened to his beautiful Samjna. Tvastr, his father-in-law explains that his daughter found the Sun too bright to bear. So, in conciliation the Sun allows Tvastr to put him on his cutting lathe and shear away his excess brilliance until the Sun became a beautiful sight to behold. Surya then reunites with his wife, Samjna and has 3 more children. The moral of the myth suggests the stronger the Sun the bigger the ego, so much in fact that there may be little room for other people to exist in such egoistic brilliance! This is where the excess vanity of the Sun exerts a malefic influence. I would be interested to know which Purana contains this story. If anyone knows, please send me the reference. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - Ramapriya D vedic astrology Saturday, May 24, 2003 3:07 PM [vedic astrology] A quasi-astro doubt Hi all, Just wanted to know if Yama is the Hindu equivalent of Satan, our version of the devil (bhoot)? An American in our office asked me this recently and I replied with a "Yes", and I hope I wasn't wrong ) Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 |Hare Rama Krishna| Dear Gauranga, The story is very interesting and doesn't have todo with the Sun only. "saMGYa" means 'to recover consciousness'. She bore the children: Manu, Yami and Yama, each holding very important roles in our lives. Now due to the extreme light of Vivaswan (the one who illuminates), she left her shadow in replacement, and after having visited her father Tvastr (the heavenly carpenter), she disguised herself as a mare and went to the forrest to perform austerities. So basically the Sun lost his consciousness. Only after Yama (Dharmaraja- Saturn) having spotted the alienation of Sangya's shaddow towards the 3 first born, did Vivaswan see the error in Chaya, and hence started looking for his consciousness. The source i Vishnu Purana, however i can't give a direct reference. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - Gauranga Das vedic astrology Saturday, May 24, 2003 5:25 PM Re: [vedic astrology] A quasi-astro doubt JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Ramapriya, Namaste. I'm afraid I have to disappoint you. Yamaraja is said to be one of the 12 Mahajanas or great teachers of the universe, coupled with personalities like Lord Brahma, Lord Siva, Narada Muni, the 4 Kumaras, Lord Kapiladeva, Svayambhuva Manu, Pralhada Maharaja, Janaka Maharaja, Bhismadeva, Bali Maharaja, Sukadeva Goswami, and Lord Yamaraja is the 12th. So all these persons are great devotees of the Lord, and they show us how to surrender to Krishna. Yamaraja punishes the sinful souls by giving them the reaction of their sins. In Jyotish, Saturn is also called the brother of Yama. So the influence of Yama is likew that of Saturn. He is not evil, he just gives what we deserve, in order to teach us to follow Dharma. Interestingly, Sarturn is said to be the son of Surya and his wife Chaya (shadow), so sinful reacions are like the shadow of dharma. According to Srimad Bhagavatam Yamaraja is the son of Svaaymbhuva Manu. Of course the other version is also supported there: (SB. 6.6.40-41) "Samjna, the wife of Vivasvan, the sun-god, gave birth to the Manu named Sraddhadeva, and the same fortunate wife also gave birth to the twins Yamaraja and the River Yamuna. Then Yami, while wandering on the earth in the form of a mare, gave birth to the Asvini-kumaras.Chaya, another wife of the sun-god, begot two sons named Sanaiscara and Savarni Manu, and one daughter, Tapati, who married Samvarana." So it appears that Yama and Sani are only stepbrothers, meaning that their father is the same, but mothers are different, Samjna for Yama and Chaya for Sani. Regarding the Sun's marriage I found the following extract on the site VedicSaktis.com: The Sun, Surya was married to Samjna and she bore him three children. Because of the Sun's unbearable brilliance Samjna left him and left Chaya (shadow) in her place as wife, while she goes off to contemplate her marriage. Because the Sun is so bright, and at the same time not bright enough, as the saying goes, he does not discover this deception until Chaya, the shadow wife, has bore him three more children. Enraged he goes to his father-in-law to find what has happened to his beautiful Samjna. Tvastr, his father-in-law explains that his daughter found the Sun too bright to bear. So, in conciliation the Sun allows Tvastr to put him on his cutting lathe and shear away his excess brilliance until the Sun became a beautiful sight to behold. Surya then reunites with his wife, Samjna and has 3 more children. The moral of the myth suggests the stronger the Sun the bigger the ego, so much in fact that there may be little room for other people to exist in such egoistic brilliance! This is where the excess vanity of the Sun exerts a malefic influence. I would be interested to know which Purana contains this story. If anyone knows, please send me the reference. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - Ramapriya D vedic astrology Saturday, May 24, 2003 3:07 PM [vedic astrology] A quasi-astro doubt Hi all, Just wanted to know if Yama is the Hindu equivalent of Satan, our version of the devil (bhoot)? An American in our office asked me this recently and I replied with a "Yes", and I hope I wasn't wrong ) Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 24, 2003 Report Share Posted May 24, 2003 Dear Ramapriya, I think not. Satan entices people not to follows God's Laws, whereas Yama himself follows the Lord's laws and is also known as Dharmaraja. nachiketa learnt about Dharma and nature of almighty from him and one Upanishada is devoted to the dialogue between them. Chandrashekhar. - Ramapriya D vedic astrology Saturday, May 24, 2003 6:37 PM [vedic astrology] A quasi-astro doubt Hi all, Just wanted to know if Yama is the Hindu equivalent of Satan, our version of the devil (bhoot)? An American in our office asked me this recently and I replied with a "Yes", and I hope I wasn't wrong ) Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... ---Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free.Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com).Version: 6.0.483 / Virus Database: 279 - Release Date: 5/19/03 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 26, 2003 Report Share Posted May 26, 2003 Yama is Dharmaraja. or God of Justice..He is certainly not to be equated Satan. Yama is also depicted as the Guru of Nachiketa in the Upanishads K. Ajith _ This report is solely for information and general circulation only and may not be published, circulated, reproduced or distributed in whole or in part to any other person without our written consent. This report should not be construed as an offer or solicitation for the subscription, purchase or sale of the securities mentioned herein. Whilst we have taken all reasonable care to ensure that the information contained in this publication is not untrue or misleading at the time of publication, we cannot guarantee its accuracy or completeness, and you should not act on it without first independently verifying its contents. Any opinion or estimate contained in this report is subject to change without notice. We have not given any consideration to and we have not made any investigation of the investment objectives, financial situation or particular needs of the recipient or any class of persons, and accordingly, no warranty whatsoever is given and no liability whatsoever is accepted for any loss arising whether directly or indirectly as a result of the recipient or any class of persons acting on such information or opinion or estimate. OCBC Securities Pte Ltd and its related and affiliated corporations together with their respective directors and officers may have or take positions in the securities mentioned in this report and may also perform or seek to perform broking and other investment or securities-related services for the corporations whose securities are mentioned in this report as well as other parties generally. Privileged/Confidential information may be contained in this message. If you are not the addressee indicated in this message (or responsible for delivery of the message to such person), you may not copy or deliver this message to anyone. Opinions, conclusions and other information in this message that do not relate to the official business of my company shall be understood as neither given nor endorsed by it. "Ramapriya D" <hubli (AT) hotpop (DOT) <vedic astrology> com> cc: [vedic astrology] A quasi-astro doubt 24/05/03 21:07 Please respond to vedic-astrolog y Hi all, Just wanted to know if Yama is the Hindu equivalent of Satan, our version of the devil (bhoot)? An American in our office asked me this recently and I replied with a "Yes", and I hope I wasn't wrong ) Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli Sponsor (Embedded image moved to file: pic07945.gif) (Embedded image moved to file: pic29386.gif) Attachment: pic07945.gif [not stored] Attachment: pic29386.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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