12th/Bhagyodaya...does moon play part too to sh rajesh .i kept old job no change

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rajesh.

i heard if moon is in 12 th house that also

give bhagyodaya in foriegn land.

particularly if moon in sun.

in fact i have two candidate both moon in 12 th house

girl 7th house gemini has sun mercury jupitor

and venusin 8th house right now there is transit of

saturn--

i told her good chance she will marry in few month

boy has jupitor in thirld house

sun mer in 6th house and mar in 4th do this make him

mangalik?

this is only one i worried about boy is proffessor of

physics in england and girl have degree in health mgmt

they will be engaged this coming sunday

rajesh i seek your help as i am tring to help her

rajinder

 

 

- Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000

wrote:

> Dear Chandershekhar ji,

> Well I agree with your concepts theoretically, but

> in real life there

> are several people who have Lagna Lord in 12th and

> are still working

> and prospering in different parts of India, away

> from their childhood

> or birth place? For example long time back, I had

> worked for 36

> months in 4 different locations, which were 200 to

> 400 miles away

> from my childhood city. My lagna lord is also in

> the 12th. So in my

> case, it would mean a distant place and not another

> country. Also it

> would be helpful to know what constitutes bhagyodaya

> in a foreign

> land, which is a linked subject here. In a separate

> email chain,

> myself and AmolMandar have mentioned various BPHS

> shlokas linked to

> 12th house. I will appreciate getting your comments

> on that.

> Thanks and Regards

> Rajesh Kumaria.

>

>

> vedic astrology,

> "Chandrashekhar"

> <boxdel> wrote:

> > Dear Rajesh,

> > What we tend to forget is that a country other

> than your birth

> place has different laws and one who leaves his

> country and goes to

> other country has a status less than that of citizen

> of the host

> country, no matter one's fianancial status.

> Therefore distance is not

> relevant here. In the times you are talking about,

> people had to put

> in as much resources and time to travel 50 miles as

> we are when we

> travel say from India to Dubai.

> > The yogas are clear. It is other country. Remember

> that in ancient

> times maximum punishment barring death penalty was

> to banish a

> citizen form the King's country. You should be to

> see the connection

> with 12th house now.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> > -

> > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria

> > vedic astrology

> > Thursday, May 22, 2003 8:31 AM

> > [vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone

> Combination: Lagna Lord

> in 12th/Bhagyodaya...

> >

> >

> > Dear Chandershekhar JI,

> >

> > Sorry for this intereference in your

> discussions..Can we safely

> make

> > an interpretation that Lagna Lord in 12th can

> also indicate

> > prosperity/financial success at a far away

> place(from place of

> > birth ) in India, which could be 50/500 miles

> away from birth

> place?

> > The reason being that one time India had over

> 5000 kingdoms and

> so

> > during such times, foreign land could also mean

> another part of

> India

> > i.e, living in a different kngdom, other than

> birth kngdom. I am

> > assuming that astrological rules were written

> 5000 to 7000 years

> ago

> > and thousands of kngdoms existed at that time.

> Please correct me,

> if

> > I am wrong. I am also taking the liberty of

> changing the subject

> > heading slightly, if you do not mind Sir.

> > Regards.

> > Rajesh Kumaria.

> >

> > vedic astrology,

> "Chandrashekhar"

> > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > Dear Hari,

> > > Bhagyodaya is rise in fortune. In you

> brother's case which you

> have

> > cited, Lagna lord is positied with 3rd and 6th

> lord. Other House

> > lords are also in different positions.The

> results would therefore

> be

> > different. Again his Mahadasha times has to

> arrive for a yoga,

> if

> > any to fructify and nature of the Planets

> themselves would also

> > modify the results.

> > > Let us wait and see what Rajeshwari has to

> say.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > -

> > > onlyhari

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:02 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone

> Combination

> > >

> > >

> > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> > > Dear Shri Chandrasekhar,

> > >

> > > You mentioned that "Lagna lord in 12th

> indicates getting your

> > > bhagyodaya in places distant from your

> birthplace and that

> you

> > will

> > > be independent"

> > >

> > > What is the meaning of bhagyodaya? Does it

> refer to earnings?

> My

> > > brother has 1st lord in 12th conjoined along

> with 5th lord

> and

> > 3&6th

> > > lord. In addition, he has 9th&12th lord in

> 2nd, 4th lord in

> 9th

> > and

> > > 7th lord in 10th. You would probably say

> that my brother

> would be

> > > better off earning his money in foreign

> land, isnt it? But

> the

> > real

> > > story is that my brother has made umpteen

> attempts since his

> > > graduation to find a job outside India and

> never once has

> > succeeded

> > > (not even to the extent of getting an

> interview call!).

> However

> > he

> > > is successful in his own right within India.

>

> > >

> > > I remember Shri Sanjay Rath saying that 12th

> house is the

> house

> > of

> > > foriegn residence, 9th the house of long

> foriegn travels

> (12th is

> > > 4th from 9th) and 7th the house of short

> term business trips

> > (12th

> > > is 6th from 7th) and lagna lord in 12th

> blocks efforts in

> that

> > > direction. Could this be the reason for the

> case described

> above?

> > > What are your comments?

> > >

> > > regards

> > > Hari

> > >

> > >

> > > -- In vedic astrology,

> "Chandrashekhar"

> > > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > > Dear Rajeshwari,

> > > > The chart that I have drawn makes me ask

> you two questions.

> How

> > is

> > > your Martu and Pitrusukha? and obviously

> possessed of a good

> > > analytical capacity,are you subject to mood

> swings(Lord of

> 5th

> > moon

> > > afflicted by Ketu in 3rd). Lord of ascendant

> in 12th

>

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Dear Rajinder, Can you please post the birth data of the boy and the

girl? Then the Gurus and learned members can try to help you. I will

try to look in to the info. provided by you and try to make some

interpretations based on that , using my limited knowledge. ..Rajesh.

vedic astrology, Rajinder Nath

<jinderman> wrote:

> rajesh.

> i heard if moon is in 12 th house that also

> give bhagyodaya in foriegn land.

> particularly if moon in sun.

> in fact i have two candidate both moon in 12 th house

> girl 7th house gemini has sun mercury jupitor

> and venusin 8th house right now there is transit of

> saturn--

> i told her good chance she will marry in few month

> boy has jupitor in thirld house

> sun mer in 6th house and mar in 4th do this make him

> mangalik?

> this is only one i worried about boy is proffessor of

> physics in england and girl have degree in health mgmt

> they will be engaged this coming sunday

> rajesh i seek your help as i am tring to help her

> rajinder

>

>

> - Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000>

> wrote:

> > Dear Chandershekhar ji,

> > Well I agree with your concepts theoretically, but

> > in real life there

> > are several people who have Lagna Lord in 12th and

> > are still working

> > and prospering in different parts of India, away

> > from their childhood

> > or birth place? For example long time back, I had

> > worked for 36

> > months in 4 different locations, which were 200 to

> > 400 miles away

> > from my childhood city. My lagna lord is also in

> > the 12th. So in my

> > case, it would mean a distant place and not another

> > country. Also it

> > would be helpful to know what constitutes bhagyodaya

> > in a foreign

> > land, which is a linked subject here. In a separate

> > email chain,

> > myself and AmolMandar have mentioned various BPHS

> > shlokas linked to

> > 12th house. I will appreciate getting your comments

> > on that.

> > Thanks and Regards

> > Rajesh Kumaria.

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology,

> > "Chandrashekhar"

> > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > Dear Rajesh,

> > > What we tend to forget is that a country other

> > than your birth

> > place has different laws and one who leaves his

> > country and goes to

> > other country has a status less than that of citizen

> > of the host

> > country, no matter one's fianancial status.

> > Therefore distance is not

> > relevant here. In the times you are talking about,

> > people had to put

> > in as much resources and time to travel 50 miles as

> > we are when we

> > travel say from India to Dubai.

> > > The yogas are clear. It is other country. Remember

> > that in ancient

> > times maximum punishment barring death penalty was

> > to banish a

> > citizen form the King's country. You should be to

> > see the connection

> > with 12th house now.

> > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > -

> > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria

> > > vedic astrology

> > > Thursday, May 22, 2003 8:31 AM

> > > [vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone

> > Combination: Lagna Lord

> > in 12th/Bhagyodaya...

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Chandershekhar JI,

> > >

> > > Sorry for this intereference in your

> > discussions..Can we safely

> > make

> > > an interpretation that Lagna Lord in 12th can

> > also indicate

> > > prosperity/financial success at a far away

> > place(from place of

> > > birth ) in India, which could be 50/500 miles

> > away from birth

> > place?

> > > The reason being that one time India had over

> > 5000 kingdoms and

> > so

> > > during such times, foreign land could also mean

> > another part of

> > India

> > > i.e, living in a different kngdom, other than

> > birth kngdom. I am

> > > assuming that astrological rules were written

> > 5000 to 7000 years

> > ago

> > > and thousands of kngdoms existed at that time.

> > Please correct me,

> > if

> > > I am wrong. I am also taking the liberty of

> > changing the subject

> > > heading slightly, if you do not mind Sir.

> > > Regards.

> > > Rajesh Kumaria.

> > >

> > > vedic astrology,

> > "Chandrashekhar"

> > > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > > Dear Hari,

> > > > Bhagyodaya is rise in fortune. In you

> > brother's case which you

> > have

> > > cited, Lagna lord is positied with 3rd and 6th

> > lord. Other House

> > > lords are also in different positions.The

> > results would therefore

> > be

> > > different. Again his Mahadasha times has to

> > arrive for a yoga,

> > if

> > > any to fructify and nature of the Planets

> > themselves would also

> > > modify the results.

> > > > Let us wait and see what Rajeshwari has to

> > say.

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > -

> > > > onlyhari

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:02 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone

> > Combination

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> > > > Dear Shri Chandrasekhar,

> > > >

> > > > You mentioned that "Lagna lord in 12th

> > indicates getting your

> > > > bhagyodaya in places distant from your

> > birthplace and that

> > you

> > > will

> > > > be independent"

> > > >

> > > > What is the meaning of bhagyodaya? Does it

> > refer to earnings?

> > My

> > > > brother has 1st lord in 12th conjoined along

> > with 5th lord

> > and

> > > 3&6th

> > > > lord. In addition, he has 9th&12th lord in

> > 2nd, 4th lord in

> > 9th

> > > and

> > > > 7th lord in 10th. You would probably say

> > that my brother

> > would be

> > > > better off earning his money in foreign

> > land, isnt it? But

> > the

> > > real

> > > > story is that my brother has made umpteen

> > attempts since his

> > > > graduation to find a job outside India and

> > never once has

> > > succeeded

> > > > (not even to the extent of getting an

> > interview call!).

> > However

> > > he

> > > > is successful in his own right within India.

> >

> > > >

> > > > I remember Shri Sanjay Rath saying that 12th

> > house is the

> > house

> > > of

> > > > foriegn residence, 9th the house of long

> > foriegn travels

> > (12th is

> > > > 4th from 9th) and 7th the house of short

> > term business trips

> > > (12th

> > > > is 6th from 7th) and lagna lord in 12th

> > blocks efforts in

> > that

> > > > direction. Could this be the reason for the

> > case described

> > above?

> > > > What are your comments?

> > > >

> > > > regards

> > > > Hari

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > -- In vedic astrology,

> > "Chandrashekhar"

> > > > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Rajeshwari,

> > > > > The chart that I have drawn makes me ask

> > you two questions.

> > How

> > > is

> > > > your Martu and Pitrusukha? and obviously

> > possessed of a good

> > > > analytical capacity,are you subject to mood

> > swings(Lord of

> > 5th

> > > moon

> > > > afflicted by Ketu in 3rd). Lord of ascendant

> > in 12th

> >

> === message truncated ===

>

>

>

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Dear Rajinder,

 

Here's what Shri B.V.Raman says about Manglik DOsha: " If Mars is in

2nd, 12th, 4th, 7th or 8th house(either from the Ascendant or the

Moon or the Venus) in the horoscope of the female, (then it becomes a

Manglik Dosha) and the death of the husband will occur. A similar

situation of the Mars in the husband's horoscope causes the death of

the wife"...So Manglik Dosha in Boy's chart must be neutralized by

same Dosha(similar magnitude also) in Girl's chart, for both to

survive and live happily.

 

Here are the other exceptions given by him:

 

Mars in the 2nd house is bad provided the 2nd house happens to be any

sign other than Gemini and Virgo.

 

Mars in 12th causes dosha in all signs except Taurus and Libra.

 

Mars in 4th house causes affliction in all signs except Aries and

Scorpio.

 

Mars in 7th house causes affliction in all signs except Capricorn and

Cancer.

 

Mars in 8th house causes affliction in all signs except Sagittarius

and Pisces.

 

Mars produces no dosha whatever in Leo and Aquarius.The dosha is

countered by the cojunction of Mars and Jupiter or Mars aand the Moon.

 

Now applying above rules to your info: Well all we know is that Boy

has Mars in 4th, so he is most probably Manglik(not sure) and we have

no such info about the girl. So I cannot reach any conclusion.

Waiting for birth data...Rajesh.

 

vedic astrology, "Rajesh Mohan Kumaria"

<rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

>

> Dear Rajinder, Can you please post the birth data of the boy and

the

> girl? Then the Gurus and learned members can try to help you. I

will

> try to look in to the info. provided by you and try to make some

> interpretations based on that , using my limited

knowledge. ..Rajesh.

> vedic astrology, Rajinder Nath

> <jinderman> wrote:

> > rajesh.

> > i heard if moon is in 12 th house that also

> > give bhagyodaya in foriegn land.

> > particularly if moon in sun.

> > in fact i have two candidate both moon in 12 th house

> > girl 7th house gemini has sun mercury jupitor

> > and venusin 8th house right now there is transit of

> > saturn--

> > i told her good chance she will marry in few month

> > boy has jupitor in thirld house

> > sun mer in 6th house and mar in 4th do this make him

> > mangalik?

> > this is only one i worried about boy is proffessor of

> > physics in england and girl have degree in health mgmt

> > they will be engaged this coming sunday

> > rajesh i seek your help as i am tring to help her

> > rajinder

> >

> >

> > - Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000>

> > wrote:

> > > Dear Chandershekhar ji,

> > > Well I agree with your concepts theoretically, but

> > > in real life there

> > > are several people who have Lagna Lord in 12th and

> > > are still working

> > > and prospering in different parts of India, away

> > > from their childhood

> > > or birth place? For example long time back, I had

> > > worked for 36

> > > months in 4 different locations, which were 200 to

> > > 400 miles away

> > > from my childhood city. My lagna lord is also in

> > > the 12th. So in my

> > > case, it would mean a distant place and not another

> > > country. Also it

> > > would be helpful to know what constitutes bhagyodaya

> > > in a foreign

> > > land, which is a linked subject here. In a separate

> > > email chain,

> > > myself and AmolMandar have mentioned various BPHS

> > > shlokas linked to

> > > 12th house. I will appreciate getting your comments

> > > on that.

> > > Thanks and Regards

> > > Rajesh Kumaria.

> > >

> > >

> > > vedic astrology,

> > > "Chandrashekhar"

> > > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > > Dear Rajesh,

> > > > What we tend to forget is that a country other

> > > than your birth

> > > place has different laws and one who leaves his

> > > country and goes to

> > > other country has a status less than that of citizen

> > > of the host

> > > country, no matter one's fianancial status.

> > > Therefore distance is not

> > > relevant here. In the times you are talking about,

> > > people had to put

> > > in as much resources and time to travel 50 miles as

> > > we are when we

> > > travel say from India to Dubai.

> > > > The yogas are clear. It is other country. Remember

> > > that in ancient

> > > times maximum punishment barring death penalty was

> > > to banish a

> > > citizen form the King's country. You should be to

> > > see the connection

> > > with 12th house now.

> > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > -

> > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Thursday, May 22, 2003 8:31 AM

> > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone

> > > Combination: Lagna Lord

> > > in 12th/Bhagyodaya...

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Dear Chandershekhar JI,

> > > >

> > > > Sorry for this intereference in your

> > > discussions..Can we safely

> > > make

> > > > an interpretation that Lagna Lord in 12th can

> > > also indicate

> > > > prosperity/financial success at a far away

> > > place(from place of

> > > > birth ) in India, which could be 50/500 miles

> > > away from birth

> > > place?

> > > > The reason being that one time India had over

> > > 5000 kingdoms and

> > > so

> > > > during such times, foreign land could also mean

> > > another part of

> > > India

> > > > i.e, living in a different kngdom, other than

> > > birth kngdom. I am

> > > > assuming that astrological rules were written

> > > 5000 to 7000 years

> > > ago

> > > > and thousands of kngdoms existed at that time.

> > > Please correct me,

> > > if

> > > > I am wrong. I am also taking the liberty of

> > > changing the subject

> > > > heading slightly, if you do not mind Sir.

> > > > Regards.

> > > > Rajesh Kumaria.

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology,

> > > "Chandrashekhar"

> > > > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Hari,

> > > > > Bhagyodaya is rise in fortune. In you

> > > brother's case which you

> > > have

> > > > cited, Lagna lord is positied with 3rd and 6th

> > > lord. Other House

> > > > lords are also in different positions.The

> > > results would therefore

> > > be

> > > > different. Again his Mahadasha times has to

> > > arrive for a yoga,

> > > if

> > > > any to fructify and nature of the Planets

> > > themselves would also

> > > > modify the results.

> > > > > Let us wait and see what Rajeshwari has to

> > > say.

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > -

> > > > > onlyhari

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > Wednesday, May 21, 2003 8:02 AM

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone

> > > Combination

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > ---Om Brihaspataye Namah---

> > > > > Dear Shri Chandrasekhar,

> > > > >

> > > > > You mentioned that "Lagna lord in 12th

> > > indicates getting your

> > > > > bhagyodaya in places distant from your

> > > birthplace and that

> > > you

> > > > will

> > > > > be independent"

> > > > >

> > > > > What is the meaning of bhagyodaya? Does it

> > > refer to earnings?

> > > My

> > > > > brother has 1st lord in 12th conjoined along

> > > with 5th lord

> > > and

> > > > 3&6th

> > > > > lord. In addition, he has 9th&12th lord in

> > > 2nd, 4th lord in

> > > 9th

> > > > and

> > > > > 7th lord in 10th. You would probably say

> > > that my brother

> > > would be

> > > > > better off earning his money in foreign

> > > land, isnt it? But

> > > the

> > > > real

> > > > > story is that my brother has made umpteen

> > > attempts since his

> > > > > graduation to find a job outside India and

> > > never once has

> > > > succeeded

> > > > > (not even to the extent of getting an

> > > interview call!).

> > > However

> > > > he

> > > > > is successful in his own right within India.

> > >

> > > > >

> > > > > I remember Shri Sanjay Rath saying that 12th

> > > house is the

> > > house

> > > > of

> > > > > foriegn residence, 9th the house of long

> > > foriegn travels

> > > (12th is

> > > > > 4th from 9th) and 7th the house of short

> > > term business trips

> > > > (12th

> > > > > is 6th from 7th) and lagna lord in 12th

> > > blocks efforts in

> > > that

> > > > > direction. Could this be the reason for the

> > > case described

> > > above?

> > > > > What are your comments?

> > > > >

> > > > > regards

> > > > > Hari

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > -- In vedic astrology,

> > > "Chandrashekhar"

> > > > > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Rajeshwari,

> > > > > > The chart that I have drawn makes me ask

> > > you two questions.

> > > How

> > > > is

> > > > > your Martu and Pitrusukha? and obviously

> > > possessed of a good

> > > > > analytical capacity,are you subject to mood

> > > swings(Lord of

> > > 5th

> > > > moon

> > > > > afflicted by Ketu in 3rd). Lord of ascendant

> > > in 12th

> > >

> > === message truncated ===

> >

> >

> >

> > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.

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dear rajesh

the girl name trisha

born june 18 1978 at jullundur at 7.15pm

has bsc in health sciences from maryland university

boy mame mathew born march 10th 1971 at london 8pm

he is proffessor of physics in private college london

my brother still wish if this event could be avoided

but i am incouraging him to accept the inevitable he

is angree inside.

i think time will tell if they really find love in

life or mangal vibes

rajinder

--- Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000

wrote:

> Dear Rajinder,

>

> Here's what Shri B.V.Raman says about Manglik DOsha:

> " If Mars is in

> 2nd, 12th, 4th, 7th or 8th house(either from the

> Ascendant or the

> Moon or the Venus) in the horoscope of the female,

> (then it becomes a

> Manglik Dosha) and the death of the husband will

> occur. A similar

> situation of the Mars in the husband's horoscope

> causes the death of

> the wife"...So Manglik Dosha in Boy's chart must be

> neutralized by

> same Dosha(similar magnitude also) in Girl's chart,

> for both to

> survive and live happily.

>

> Here are the other exceptions given by him:

>

> Mars in the 2nd house is bad provided the 2nd house

> happens to be any

> sign other than Gemini and Virgo.

>

> Mars in 12th causes dosha in all signs except

> Taurus and Libra.

>

> Mars in 4th house causes affliction in all signs

> except Aries and

> Scorpio.

>

> Mars in 7th house causes affliction in all signs

> except Capricorn and

> Cancer.

>

> Mars in 8th house causes affliction in all signs

> except Sagittarius

> and Pisces.

>

> Mars produces no dosha whatever in Leo and

> Aquarius.The dosha is

> countered by the cojunction of Mars and Jupiter or

> Mars aand the Moon.

>

> Now applying above rules to your info: Well all we

> know is that Boy

> has Mars in 4th, so he is most probably Manglik(not

> sure) and we have

> no such info about the girl. So I cannot reach any

> conclusion.

> Waiting for birth data...Rajesh.

>

> vedic astrology, "Rajesh

> Mohan Kumaria"

> <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Rajinder, Can you please post the birth data

> of the boy and

> the

> > girl? Then the Gurus and learned members can try

> to help you. I

> will

> > try to look in to the info. provided by you and

> try to make some

> > interpretations based on that , using my limited

> knowledge. ..Rajesh.

> > vedic astrology, Rajinder

> Nath

> > <jinderman> wrote:

> > > rajesh.

> > > i heard if moon is in 12 th house that also

> > > give bhagyodaya in foriegn land.

> > > particularly if moon in sun.

> > > in fact i have two candidate both moon in 12 th

> house

> > > girl 7th house gemini has sun mercury jupitor

> > > and venusin 8th house right now there is transit

> of

> > > saturn--

> > > i told her good chance she will marry in few

> month

> > > boy has jupitor in thirld house

> > > sun mer in 6th house and mar in 4th do this

> make him

> > > mangalik?

> > > this is only one i worried about boy is

> proffessor of

> > > physics in england and girl have degree in

> health mgmt

> > > they will be engaged this coming sunday

> > > rajesh i seek your help as i am tring to help

> her

> > > rajinder

> > >

> > >

> > > - Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000>

> > > wrote:

> > > > Dear Chandershekhar ji,

> > > > Well I agree with your concepts theoretically,

> but

> > > > in real life there

> > > > are several people who have Lagna Lord in 12th

> and

> > > > are still working

> > > > and prospering in different parts of India,

> away

> > > > from their childhood

> > > > or birth place? For example long time back, I

> had

> > > > worked for 36

> > > > months in 4 different locations, which were

> 200 to

> > > > 400 miles away

> > > > from my childhood city. My lagna lord is also

> in

> > > > the 12th. So in my

> > > > case, it would mean a distant place and not

> another

> > > > country. Also it

> > > > would be helpful to know what constitutes

> bhagyodaya

> > > > in a foreign

> > > > land, which is a linked subject here. In a

> separate

> > > > email chain,

> > > > myself and AmolMandar have mentioned various

> BPHS

> > > > shlokas linked to

> > > > 12th house. I will appreciate getting your

> comments

> > > > on that.

> > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > Rajesh Kumaria.

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > vedic astrology,

> > > > "Chandrashekhar"

> > > > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > > > Dear Rajesh,

> > > > > What we tend to forget is that a country

> other

> > > > than your birth

> > > > place has different laws and one who leaves

> his

> > > > country and goes to

> > > > other country has a status less than that of

> citizen

> > > > of the host

> > > > country, no matter one's fianancial status.

> > > > Therefore distance is not

> > > > relevant here. In the times you are talking

> about,

> > > > people had to put

> > > > in as much resources and time to travel 50

> miles as

> > > > we are when we

> > > > travel say from India to Dubai.

> > > > > The yogas are clear. It is other country.

> Remember

> > > > that in ancient

> > > > times maximum punishment barring death penalty

> was

> > > > to banish a

> > > > citizen form the King's country. You should be

> to

> > > > see the connection

> > > > with 12th house now.

> > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > -

> > > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria

> > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > Thursday, May 22, 2003 8:31 AM

> > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone

> > > > Combination: Lagna Lord

> > > > in 12th/Bhagyodaya...

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Chandershekhar JI,

> > > > >

> > > > > Sorry for this intereference in your

> > > > discussions..Can we safely

> > > > make

> > > > > an interpretation that Lagna Lord in 12th

> can

> > > > also indicate

> > > > > prosperity/financial success at a far away

> > > > place(from place of

> > > > > birth ) in India, which could be 50/500

> miles

> > > > away from birth

> > > > place?

> > > > > The reason being that one time India had

> over

> > > > 5000 kingdoms and

> > > > so

> > > > > during such times, foreign land could also

> mean

> > > > another part of

> > > > India

> > > > > i.e, living in a different kngdom, other

> than

>

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Dear Rajinder, well as per data provided by you, I am attaching the

charts below for other members to give their comments. WHat I found

was that the Boy is double Manglik since his Natal mars(in

Sagittarius) is in 4th house from Lagna(Virgo) and also in 12th House

from Venus(capricorn). Looks like no exception applies to him. Please

also note that I am a studnet only and not an expert on Mangal Dosha.

Now when you go to Girl's chart, she is manglik due to Venus only

since Natal mars in Leo, is in 2nd house from Natal Venus in Cancer.

But She is NOT double manglik and hence the Mangal Dosha is not

balanced one as per data and hence here health can be affected due to

the strong Mars of the boy.

 

Also The Girl's Natal Venus(6th and 11th Lord) being in 8th house and

her UL being in 6th from AL, shows hard efforts and strong

inclinations in trying to attract the opposite sex. People with venus

in 8th house make trendous wffort to get satisfaction in roamance,

marriages but have hard luck until the other partner is very

supporting...On the other hand the Boy's Venus(2nd and 9th Lord) is

placed in 5th house comfortably and is also the Lord of UL, which is

11th house from AL...Now I think people with more expertise inmatch

making can give their comments here regarding the strength of this

Union etc., I will have to dig up some books(and I have to go now)...

 

>From a general perspective, the boy's natal venus creates more

romantic inclinations and so no shortage of partners and the Girls'

Venus creates desperate efforts to get the partner (Assuming that its

a love marriage situation..Do'nt they say that love is blind and so

what can astrology do, when you are so close to engagement. After all

your Karma is always under control to some/large extent)... But the

Boy id definitely very strong Manglik compared to the Girl and the

rest is now your decision, Sir. May be other members can suggest how

to control this dosha or balance it on both sides using Mantra etc.,

 

with regards and best wishes..rajesh kumaria.

 

 

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These calculations were made using the free "Jagannatha Hora Lite"

software, which can be downloaded from the website of its author

P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (www.VedicAstrologer.org) or from the website

of Sri Jagannath Centre (www.SriJagannath.org).

--

 

Mathew

 

Natal Chart

 

March 10, 1971

Time: 8:00:00 pm

Time Zone: 0:00:00 (West of GMT)

Place: 0 W 07' 00", 51 N 30' 00"

London, United Kingdom

Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

Lunar Yr-Mo: Sadharana - Phalguna

Tithi: Sukla Chaturdasi (Ve) (14.79% left)

Weekday: Wednesday (Me)

Nakshatra: Makha (Ke) (7.20% left)

Yoga: Dhriti (Ra)

Karana: Vanija (Ve)

Hora Lord: Venus (5 min sign: Li)

Mahakala Hora: Mercury (5 min sign: Ge)

Kaala Lord: Rahu (Mahakala: Sun)

 

Sunrise: 6:32:28 am

Sunset: 5:51:31 pm

Janma Ghatis: 33.6473

 

Ayanamsa: 23-27-27.09

Sidereal Time: 7:10:53

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

 

Lagna 19 Vi 02' 01.06" Hast 3 Vi Ge

Sun - AmK 26 Aq 08' 54.19" PBha 2 Aq Ta

Moon - PK 12 Le 22' 23.81" Makh 4 Le Cn

Mars - GK 5 Sg 34' 52.89" Mool 2 Sg Ta

Mercury - AK 29 Aq 56' 05.34" PBha 3 Aq Ge

Jupiter - PiK 12 Sc 45' 02.98" Anu 3 Sc Li

Venus - MK 14 Cp 24' 02.74" Srav 2 Cp Ta

Saturn - BK 24 Ar 40' 19.04" Bhar 4 Ar Sc

Rahu - DK 28 Cp 51' 28.99" Dhan 2 Cp Vi

Ketu 28 Cn 51' 28.99" Asre 4 Cn Pi

Maandi 24 Sg 05' 36.61" PSha 4 Sg Sc

Gulika 11 Sg 23' 18.56" Mool 4 Sg Cn

Bhava Lagna 17 Vi 28' 19.60" Hast 3 Vi Ge

Hora Lagna 9 Ar 21' 21.19" Aswi 3 Ar Ge

Ghati Lagna 15 Sg 00' 25.95" PSha 1 Sg Le

Vighati Lagna 13 Ta 15' 49.76" Rohi 1 Ta Ar

Varnada Lagna 28 Vi 23' 22.25" Chit 2 Vi Vi

Sree Lagna 23 Le 06' 43.97" PPha 3 Le Li

Dhooma 9 Cn 28' 54.19" Push 2 Cn Vi

Vyatipata 20 Sg 31' 05.81" PSha 3 Sg Li

Parivesha 20 Ge 31' 05.81" Puna 1 Ge Ar

Indra Chapa 9 Cp 28' 54.19" USha 4 Cp Pi

Upaketu 26 Cp 08' 54.19" Dhan 1 Cp Le

Kaala 4 Vi 42' 32.66" UPha 3 Vi Aq

Mrityu 8 Li 07' 03.88" Swat 1 Li Sg

Artha Prahara 24 Li 44' 41.93" Visa 2 Li Ta

Yama Ghantaka 11 Sc 48' 36.31" Anu 3 Sc Li

 

Rasi

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ Mo / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Ju x As x AL Ke |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / GL \ 6 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Gk Ma x |

| \ / \ / |

| \ Md / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Ve Ra x x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Su \ / Sa \ |

| / Me \ / HL \ |

+--------------+

 

Navamsa

+--------------+

| \ Gk / \ Ma Ve / |

| \ Mo / \ Su / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Me \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|GL x As x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ HL / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 3 / AL \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Ra x Ke |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Ju x x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Sa \ / \ |

| / Md \ / \ |

+--------------+

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Ket Ket 1964-09-10 Ven 1965-02-06 Sun 1966-04-08

Moo 1966-08-14 Mar 1967-03-15 Rah 1967-08-11

Jup 1968-08-29 Sat 1969-08-04 Mer 1970-09-13

Ven Ven 1971-09-10 Sun 1975-01-10 Moo 1976-01-10

Mar 1977-09-10 Rah 1978-11-10 Jup 1981-11-10

Sat 1984-07-11 Mer 1987-09-10 Ket 1990-07-11

Sun Sun 1991-09-10 Moo 1991-12-29 Mar 1992-06-28

Rah 1992-11-03 Jup 1993-09-28 Sat 1994-07-17

Mer 1995-06-29 Ket 1996-05-05 Ven 1996-09-09

Moo Moo 1997-09-10 Mar 1998-07-11 Rah 1999-02-09

Jup 2000-08-10 Sat 2001-12-10 Mer 2003-07-11

Ket 2004-12-10 Ven 2005-07-11 Sun 2007-03-12

Mar Mar 2007-09-10 Rah 2008-02-06 Jup 2009-02-24

Sat 2010-01-31 Mer 2011-03-12 Ket 2012-03-08

Ven 2012-08-04 Sun 2013-10-04 Moo 2014-02-09

Rah Rah 2014-09-10 Jup 2017-05-23 Sat 2019-10-17

Mer 2022-08-23 Ket 2025-03-11 Ven 2026-03-29

Sun 2029-03-29 Moo 2030-02-21 Mar 2031-08-23

Jup Jup 2032-09-09 Sat 2034-10-28 Mer 2037-05-11

Ket 2039-08-17 Ven 2040-07-22 Sun 2043-03-23

Moo 2044-01-10 Mar 2045-05-11 Rah 2046-04-17

Sat Sat 2048-09-09 Mer 2051-09-13 Ket 2054-05-23

Ven 2055-07-02 Sun 2058-08-31 Moo 2059-08-13

Mar 2061-03-14 Rah 2062-04-22 Jup 2065-02-26

Mer Mer 2067-09-10 Ket 2070-02-05 Ven 2071-02-03

Sun 2073-12-03 Moo 2074-10-10 Mar 2076-03-10

Rah 2077-03-07 Jup 2079-09-25 Sat 2081-12-31

 

girl'S CHART:

 

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software, which can be downloaded from the website of its author

P.V.R. Narasimha Rao (www.VedicAstrologer.org) or from the website

of Sri Jagannath Centre (www.SriJagannath.org).

--

 

trisha

 

Natal Chart

 

June 18, 1978

Time: 7:15:00 pm

Time Zone: 5:30:00 (East of GMT)

Place: 75 E 34' 00", 31 N 19' 00"

Jullundur, India

Altitude: 0.00 meters

 

Lunar Yr-Mo: Kaala-yukta - Jyeshtha

Tithi: Sukla Trayodasi (Ju) (66.79% left)

Weekday: Sunday (Su)

Nakshatra: Visakha (Ju) (14.53% left)

Yoga: Siddha (Ke)

Karana: Kaulava (Ma)

Hora Lord: Mars (5 min sign: Le)

Mahakala Hora: Mars (5 min sign: Ge)

Kaala Lord: Saturn (Mahakala: Venus)

 

Sunrise: 5:26:27 am

Sunset: 7:30:59 pm

Janma Ghatis: 34.5227

 

Ayanamsa: 23-33-22.77

Sidereal Time: 12:33:03

 

Body Longitude Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

 

Lagna 0 Sg 05' 27.04" Mool 1 Sg Ar

Sun - PK 3 Ge 24' 42.33" Mrig 4 Ge Sc

Moon - DK 1 Sc 23' 47.04" Visa 4 Sc Cn

Mars - MK 8 Le 54' 32.59" Makh 3 Le Ge

Mercury - PiK 8 Ge 26' 22.58" Ardr 1 Ge Sg

Jupiter - AmK 19 Ge 22' 38.20" Ardr 4 Ge Pi

Venus - BK 9 Cn 10' 18.53" Push 2 Cn Vi

Saturn - GK 2 Le 32' 02.42" Makh 1 Le Ar

Rahu - AK 8 Vi 04' 18.33" UPha 4 Vi Pi

Ketu 8 Pi 04' 18.33" UBha 2 Pi Vi

Maandi 29 Li 37' 06.42" Visa 3 Li Ge

Gulika 18 Li 32' 08.21" Swat 4 Li Pi

Bhava Lagna 29 Sg 59' 55.81" USha 1 Sg Sg

Hora Lagna 27 Cn 08' 06.01" Asre 4 Cn Pi

Ghati Lagna 18 Ar 32' 36.62" Bhar 2 Ar Vi

Vighati Lagna 5 Sg 35' 09.63" Mool 2 Sg Ta

Varnada Lagna 2 Ar 46' 26.95" Aswi 1 Ar Ar

Sree Lagna 7 Li 47' 37.13" Swat 1 Li Sg

Dhooma 16 Li 44' 42.33" Swat 4 Li Pi

Vyatipata 13 Vi 15' 17.67" Hast 1 Vi Ar

Parivesha 13 Pi 15' 17.67" UBha 3 Pi Li

Indra Chapa 16 Ar 44' 42.33" Bhar 2 Ar Vi

Upaketu 3 Ta 24' 42.33" Krit 3 Ta Aq

Kaala 14 Ge 36' 57.28" Ardr 3 Ge Aq

Mrityu 29 Cn 26' 49.29" Asre 4 Cn Pi

Artha Prahara 21 Le 57' 42.14" PPha 3 Le Li

Yama Ghantaka 14 Vi 45' 28.37" Hast 2 Vi Ta

 

Rasi

+--------------+

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ Mo / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| x As x Gk Md |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 9 / AL \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Ke x Ra |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / Me \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|GL x Su x Sa Ma |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ Ju / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / Ve \ |

| / \ / HL \ |

+--------------+

 

Navamsa

+--------------+

| \ / \ Ra HL / |

| \ / \ Ju / |

| \ / \ Gk / |

| \ / Sa \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|Ma Md x As x |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ 1 / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| Mo x |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

| \ / \ / |

|AL x x Me |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / \ / \ |

| / Ve \ / Su \ |

| / Ke GL \ / \ |

+--------------+

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Jup Jup 1964-10-14 Sat 1966-12-03 Mer 1969-06-15

Ket 1971-09-21 Ven 1972-08-27 Sun 1975-04-28

Moo 1976-02-14 Mar 1977-06-15 Rah 1978-05-22

Sat Sat 1980-10-14 Mer 1983-10-18 Ket 1986-06-27

Ven 1987-08-06 Sun 1990-10-06 Moo 1991-09-18

Mar 1993-04-18 Rah 1994-05-28 Jup 1997-04-03

Mer Mer 1999-10-15 Ket 2002-03-12 Ven 2003-03-10

Sun 2006-01-08 Moo 2006-11-14 Mar 2008-04-14

Rah 2009-04-12 Jup 2011-10-30 Sat 2014-02-04

Ket Ket 2016-10-14 Ven 2017-03-12 Sun 2018-05-12

Moo 2018-09-17 Mar 2019-04-18 Rah 2019-09-14

Jup 2020-10-02 Sat 2021-09-08 Mer 2022-10-17

Ven Ven 2023-10-15 Sun 2027-02-13 Moo 2028-02-13

Mar 2029-10-14 Rah 2030-12-14 Jup 2033-12-14

Sat 2036-08-14 Mer 2039-10-15 Ket 2042-08-14

Sun Sun 2043-10-15 Moo 2044-02-01 Mar 2044-08-02

Rah 2044-12-08 Jup 2045-11-01 Sat 2046-08-20

Mer 2047-08-02 Ket 2048-06-08 Ven 2048-10-14

Moo Moo 2049-10-14 Mar 2050-08-14 Rah 2051-03-15

Jup 2052-09-13 Sat 2054-01-13 Mer 2055-08-15

Ket 2057-01-13 Ven 2057-08-14 Sun 2059-04-15

Mar Mar 2059-10-14 Rah 2060-03-12 Jup 2061-03-30

Sat 2062-03-06 Mer 2063-04-15 Ket 2064-04-11

Ven 2064-09-07 Sun 2065-11-07 Moo 2066-03-15

Rah Rah 2066-10-14 Jup 2069-06-26 Sat 2071-11-20

Mer 2074-09-26 Ket 2077-04-14 Ven 2078-05-03

Sun 2081-05-02 Moo 2082-03-27 Mar 2083-09-26

 

 

vedic astrology, Rajinder Nath

<jinderman> wrote:

> dear rajesh

> the girl name trisha

> born june 18 1978 at jullundur at 7.15pm

> has bsc in health sciences from maryland university

> boy mame mathew born march 10th 1971 at london 8pm

> he is proffessor of physics in private college london

> my brother still wish if this event could be avoided

> but i am incouraging him to accept the inevitable he

> is angree inside.

> i think time will tell if they really find love in

> life or mangal vibes

> rajinder

> --- Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000>

> wrote:

> > Dear Rajinder,

> >

> > Here's what Shri B.V.Raman says about Manglik DOsha:

> > " If Mars is in

> > 2nd, 12th, 4th, 7th or 8th house(either from the

> > Ascendant or the

> > Moon or the Venus) in the horoscope of the female,

> > (then it becomes a

> > Manglik Dosha) and the death of the husband will

> > occur. A similar

> > situation of the Mars in the husband's horoscope

> > causes the death of

> > the wife"...So Manglik Dosha in Boy's chart must be

> > neutralized by

> > same Dosha(similar magnitude also) in Girl's chart,

> > for both to

> > survive and live happily.

> >

> > Here are the other exceptions given by him:

> >

> > Mars in the 2nd house is bad provided the 2nd house

> > happens to be any

> > sign other than Gemini and Virgo.

> >

> > Mars in 12th causes dosha in all signs except

> > Taurus and Libra.

> >

> > Mars in 4th house causes affliction in all signs

> > except Aries and

> > Scorpio.

> >

> > Mars in 7th house causes affliction in all signs

> > except Capricorn and

> > Cancer.

> >

> > Mars in 8th house causes affliction in all signs

> > except Sagittarius

> > and Pisces.

> >

> > Mars produces no dosha whatever in Leo and

> > Aquarius.The dosha is

> > countered by the cojunction of Mars and Jupiter or

> > Mars aand the Moon.

> >

> > Now applying above rules to your info: Well all we

> > know is that Boy

> > has Mars in 4th, so he is most probably Manglik(not

> > sure) and we have

> > no such info about the girl. So I cannot reach any

> > conclusion.

> > Waiting for birth data...Rajesh.

> >

> > vedic astrology, "Rajesh

> > Mohan Kumaria"

> > <rajeshkumaria2000> wrote:

> > >

> > > Dear Rajinder, Can you please post the birth data

> > of the boy and

> > the

> > > girl? Then the Gurus and learned members can try

> > to help you. I

> > will

> > > try to look in to the info. provided by you and

> > try to make some

> > > interpretations based on that , using my limited

> > knowledge. ..Rajesh.

> > > vedic astrology, Rajinder

> > Nath

> > > <jinderman> wrote:

> > > > rajesh.

> > > > i heard if moon is in 12 th house that also

> > > > give bhagyodaya in foriegn land.

> > > > particularly if moon in sun.

> > > > in fact i have two candidate both moon in 12 th

> > house

> > > > girl 7th house gemini has sun mercury jupitor

> > > > and venusin 8th house right now there is transit

> > of

> > > > saturn--

> > > > i told her good chance she will marry in few

> > month

> > > > boy has jupitor in thirld house

> > > > sun mer in 6th house and mar in 4th do this

> > make him

> > > > mangalik?

> > > > this is only one i worried about boy is

> > proffessor of

> > > > physics in england and girl have degree in

> > health mgmt

> > > > they will be engaged this coming sunday

> > > > rajesh i seek your help as i am tring to help

> > her

> > > > rajinder

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > - Rajesh Mohan Kumaria <rajeshkumaria2000>

> > > > wrote:

> > > > > Dear Chandershekhar ji,

> > > > > Well I agree with your concepts theoretically,

> > but

> > > > > in real life there

> > > > > are several people who have Lagna Lord in 12th

> > and

> > > > > are still working

> > > > > and prospering in different parts of India,

> > away

> > > > > from their childhood

> > > > > or birth place? For example long time back, I

> > had

> > > > > worked for 36

> > > > > months in 4 different locations, which were

> > 200 to

> > > > > 400 miles away

> > > > > from my childhood city. My lagna lord is also

> > in

> > > > > the 12th. So in my

> > > > > case, it would mean a distant place and not

> > another

> > > > > country. Also it

> > > > > would be helpful to know what constitutes

> > bhagyodaya

> > > > > in a foreign

> > > > > land, which is a linked subject here. In a

> > separate

> > > > > email chain,

> > > > > myself and AmolMandar have mentioned various

> > BPHS

> > > > > shlokas linked to

> > > > > 12th house. I will appreciate getting your

> > comments

> > > > > on that.

> > > > > Thanks and Regards

> > > > > Rajesh Kumaria.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > vedic astrology,

> > > > > "Chandrashekhar"

> > > > > <boxdel> wrote:

> > > > > > Dear Rajesh,

> > > > > > What we tend to forget is that a country

> > other

> > > > > than your birth

> > > > > place has different laws and one who leaves

> > his

> > > > > country and goes to

> > > > > other country has a status less than that of

> > citizen

> > > > > of the host

> > > > > country, no matter one's fianancial status.

> > > > > Therefore distance is not

> > > > > relevant here. In the times you are talking

> > about,

> > > > > people had to put

> > > > > in as much resources and time to travel 50

> > miles as

> > > > > we are when we

> > > > > travel say from India to Dubai.

> > > > > > The yogas are clear. It is other country.

> > Remember

> > > > > that in ancient

> > > > > times maximum punishment barring death penalty

> > was

> > > > > to banish a

> > > > > citizen form the King's country. You should be

> > to

> > > > > see the connection

> > > > > with 12th house now.

> > > > > > Chandrashekhar.

> > > > > > -

> > > > > > Rajesh Mohan Kumaria

> > > > > > vedic astrology

> > > > > > Thursday, May 22, 2003 8:31 AM

> > > > > > [vedic astrology] Re: Gem Stone

> > > > > Combination: Lagna Lord

> > > > > in 12th/Bhagyodaya...

> > > > > >

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Dear Chandershekhar JI,

> > > > > >

> > > > > > Sorry for this intereference in your

> > > > > discussions..Can we safely

> > > > > make

> > > > > > an interpretation that Lagna Lord in 12th

> > can

> > > > > also indicate

> > > > > > prosperity/financial success at a far away

> > > > > place(from place of

> > > > > > birth ) in India, which could be 50/500

> > miles

> > > > > away from birth

> > > > > place?

> > > > > > The reason being that one time India had

> > over

> > > > > 5000 kingdoms and

> > > > > so

> > > > > > during such times, foreign land could also

> > mean

> > > > > another part of

> > > > > India

> > > > > > i.e, living in a different kngdom, other

> > than

> >

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Namaste

 

Dear Rajesh,

 

What are the reasons for these exceptions or the logic behind them, if this is

also given by B.V.Raman? For instance in the case of Mars in the 2nd house

other than when occupying Mercury ruled houses? Why are Mercury ruled bhavas an

exception?

 

Kind regards,

Patrice

 

__________

Here are the other exceptions given by him: Mars in the 2nd house is bad

provided the 2nd house happens to be any sign other than Gemini and Virgo. Mars

in 12th causes dosha in all signs except Taurus and Libra.Mars in 4th house

causes affliction in all signs except Aries and Scorpio.Mars in 7th house

causes affliction in all signs except Capricorn and Cancer.Mars in 8th house

causes affliction in all signs except Sagittarius and Pisces.

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Dear Patrice,

You will find out the answers your self when you look to the House ownership of

Mars in the exceptions.

Chandrashekhar.

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Patrice Curry

vedic astrology

Sunday, May 25, 2003 12:11 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: 12th/Bhagyodaya...does moon play part too to

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Namaste

 

Dear Rajesh,

 

What are the reasons for these exceptions or the logic behind them, if this is

also given by B.V.Raman? For instance in the case of Mars in the 2nd house

other than when occupying Mercury ruled houses? Why are Mercury ruled bhavas an

exception?

 

Kind regards,

Patrice

 

__________

Here are the other exceptions given by him: Mars in the 2nd house is bad

provided the 2nd house happens to be any sign other than Gemini and Virgo. Mars

in 12th causes dosha in all signs except Taurus and Libra.Mars in 4th house

causes affliction in all signs except Aries and Scorpio.Mars in 7th house

causes affliction in all signs except Capricorn and Cancer.Mars in 8th house

causes affliction in all signs except Sagittarius and Pisces.

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Dear Patrice,

Well here's what I found: Mars in 2nd House in Gemini and Virgo; For

Gemini, The lagna is Taurus and the 7th sign is Scorpio. Taking

Scorpio as Spouse's Lagna, Mars then owns 1st and 6th Lord of

Spouse . Since Ist Lord is beneficial always(and also stronger than

6th Lord) so mars will protect here and not Kill the spouse.

Similarly for all cases Mars will be owning a Kendra and/or a Trikona

or life giving houses to spouse. Just follow this same principle and

go around various house placements.

 

For Mars to be in Virgo in 2nd house, The lagna is Leo and the lagna

for Spouse is Aquarius. Mars now owns 3rd and 10th houses of spouse.

10th Lord is stronger than 3rd lord and hence protect spouse. Hence

no dosha….

 

Mars is 5th and10th Lord of spouse when its in taurus in 12th house

and its 7th and 12th Lord of spouse, when its in Libra in 12th house.

 

Mars is 4th and 11th Lord of spouse, when its in Capricorn in 7th

house and its 5th and 10th Lord of spouse, when its in Cancer in 7th

house.

 

Mars is 5th and 10th Lord of spouse, when its in Aries in 4th house

and its 3rd and 10th Lord of spouse, when its in Scorpio in 4th house.

 

Mars is 3rd and 10th Lord of spouse, when its in Pisces in 8th house

and its 1st and 6th Lord of spouse, when its in Sagittarius in 8th

house. Hence no dosha….

 

When its in Leo in 2nd House, its 4th and 11th Lord of spouse ,

but when its in Aquarius in 12th house, it's the 3rd and 8th Lord of

spouse. 8th is the house of longtivity and hence mars supports

spouse, although its neither a Kendra nor a trikona house.

 

Hope its correct,since I myself learnt it on this list long time

back...Regards. Rajesh.

 

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar"

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> Dear Patrice,

> You will find out the answers your self when you look to the House

ownership of Mars in the exceptions.

> Chandrashekhar.

> -

> Patrice Curry

> vedic astrology

> Sunday, May 25, 2003 12:11 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: 12th/Bhagyodaya...does moon

play part too to sh rajesh .i kept old job no change

>

>

> Namaste

>

> Dear Rajesh,

>

> What are the reasons for these exceptions or the logic behind

them, if this is also given by B.V.Raman? For instance in the case of

Mars in the 2nd house other than when occupying Mercury ruled houses?

Why are Mercury ruled bhavas an exception?

>

> Kind regards,

> Patrice

>

> __________

> Here are the other exceptions given by him:

>

> Mars in the 2nd house is bad provided the 2nd house happens to be

any

> sign other than Gemini and Virgo.

>

> Mars in 12th causes dosha in all signs except Taurus and Libra.

>

> Mars in 4th house causes affliction in all signs except Aries and

> Scorpio.

>

> Mars in 7th house causes affliction in all signs except Capricorn

and

> Cancer.

>

> Mars in 8th house causes affliction in all signs except

Sagittarius

> and Pisces.

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Dear Rajesh and Chandrashekhar,

 

Thank you for both your responses. Chandrashekhar for your hint and direction,

and Rajesh for the very lucid and great explanation, bringing the 'ah ha' to my

mind. It's interesting and exciting to get understanding, and I'm greatful for

your time and help.

 

Kindest regards,

Patrice