Guest guest Posted May 23, 2003 Report Share Posted May 23, 2003 Jai Jagannatha! Hi, Narasimha, Did Sanjay ever respond to this point? I haven't been able to find it in the archives? Jai Shri Ram, Steve vedic astrology, Narasimha Rao <pvr@m...> wrote: > Pranaam Sanjay, > > During the last few days, I read some parts of Mahabharata for > collecting some data for astrological analysis of Mahabharata events. > I had no luck so far. If you tell me Achyuta Dasa's views on when Kali > Yuga started, it will help my research tremendously. > > I came across something interesting in Virata Parva of Mahabharata. > > When Arjuna comes out of his ajnaata vaasa (hiding) to fight Kaurava > armies and save King Virata's cows, Duryodhana rejoices that one year > ajnaata vaasa bet is broken and Pandavas have to go back to 12 years > of vana vaasa (stay in forests) and 1 year of ajnaata vaasa (hiding). > Then Bheeshma gives his opinion thus: > > teshaam kaalaatirekena jyotishaam cha vyatikramaat | > panchame panchame varshe dwau maasaavupajaayatah || 47-3 > teshaambhyadhikaa maasaah pancha dwaadasa cha kshapaah | > trayodasaanaam varshaanaamiti me vartate matih || 47-4 > > "It is true that time is formed by degrees & minutes, days, > fortnights, months and seasons. However, learned astrologers consider > the excess time that is built into this. Once in every 5 years, there > is an extra month. During the 13 years, there were 5 extra months and > 12 extra days. Considering them, thirteen years have already passed. > Arjuna must've come out of the hiding only after recognizing this > fact. He did not break the bet." > > Essentially, Duryodhana is insisting on 365.2425 day solar years and > arguing that 13 years are not over yet. And, Bheeshma is counselling > him that 360 tithis (not even 360 days) form one year. Though lunar > years (of tithis) are synchronized with solar years with the help of > adhika maasas (extra months) that come at the rate of 2 months per 5 > years, Bheeshma is saying that astrologers consider a year to be 360 > tithis. If a lunar year has 13 months, he is considering it to be 1 > year PLUS 1 month. He is advising Duryodhana to accept the same > definition for years in their bet (of 12 years in forests and 1 year > in hiding), instead of insisting that a year means 365.2425 days and > so 13 years aren't over yet. > > The above is a very clear point and a basis for the war. I cannot > imagine any corruption in it. Moreover, Bheeshma is a very learned > person and Vyasa who reported Mahabharata is the son of Pararsara. > Both of them knew astrology better than all of us. So this makes a > very very strong case for the use of 360-tithi years in astrology. > > In fact, though I used 360 day years until sometime back, I insisted > that an even more correct way would be to use 360 tithis. Ever since I > coded 360-tithi years in JH, I've been using only that in all > nakshatra dasas! I sincerely believe that this is the correct > approach, partly based on experience, partly based on intuition and > NOW partly based on Bhishma's teaching. > > I request you to kindly reconsider your views on this issue and > comment on Bheeshma's statement. > > Your sishya, > Narasimha > > PS: I noted this point 3 days back. It was an interesting coincidence > that the next day I received a copy of July 2001 EST, in which there > was an interview with K.K. Pathak. He also uses 360-tithi years and > made the same point that I had noted from Mahabharata!! So this is a > well-known point and not my own discovery. > > --------------------- > Narasimha P.V.R. Rao Tel: (781) 270-4997 > 3 Baron Park Lane #13 email: pvr@m... > Burlington, MA 01803 email: pvr108 > > Homepage: http://www.vedicastrologer.org > > Home address will change in July/Aug, 2001 > --------------------- Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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