Guest guest Posted May 15, 2003 Report Share Posted May 15, 2003 Dear Chandrashekhar, Sarajit, Laurie and others, Thank you much for your replies. I am putting my questions and more info for you in this one reply: 1) First, you are all very clear that pearl is not the solution. I dont understand that very well. Like I said, her OCD is "fear of disease and suffering". It is not an excessive desire type OCD - which is why I suspected the Moon - imbalances in the mind rather than in desires (Venus). Additionally, B.V.Raman has stated in several places I think that mental health issues always involve heavily afflicted Moon and/or Mercury. Is it because Moon rules the 7th and is a maraka (I thought I read somewhere that Sun and Moon never act as marakas)? Or is it because Moon being a benefic rules a quadrant? If benefics rule only quadrants do they functionally have some maleficence? 2) Secondly, the problems may have first surfaced rarely but never seriously during childhood (this is in response to Chandrashekar's "when did they first surface.."). The really bad time was actually in late 1994 and 1995. Sat-Sat and early Sat-Merc in Vimsottari terms. Sat-Venus was actually quite good. Can you explain this? In terms of Narayan dasa, it appears to be Pi-Sc - again kind of confuses me. 3) Thirdly, as Laurie privately noted, Ketu is exalted Mokshakaraka in 12th house, so I am guessing capacity for spirituality is high (though not exercised well yet). So I am definitely very keen on worship of Ishta Devata, especially since it is definitely involved in the problem. To this end, I need elaboration on Sarajit's "worship of Annapoorneshwari" remedy - I am sorry, I am a little uneducated in this matter - what exactly should be done (in some detail) and how does it correlate with Venus in Sagittarius (Navamsa position of Ishta-Devata)? I will definitely comply with your instructions. Ideally I was looking for some mantra that was correct for her name and specifically took into account that her Ishta devata was Venus and in Sagittarius. I also personally like meditative recital since it (seems to me) to bring awareness. 4) Also evidently since she is never married and Upapada is Leo, which is aspected both by Saturn and Jupiter, doesn't seem badly afflicted. But Sun itself is in "sankranti" (as noted by Laurie) and the 5th house is in Papakartari with Mars and Rahu. Which one (or both) is more importantly the reason for Upapada affliction? What should be done about it? thank you very much again Sundeep vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Sundeep, > Her problem has arisen from, obviously a heavyli afflicted Moon and placement of Venus the Yogakaraka and lord ofthe Buddhisthana. > Lord of the 5th in 6th indicates self created enemies/deceases amd Moon with kendradhipati dosha being maraka by virtue of becoming owner of a quadrant, afflicted by Rahu in enemy house and enemy Navamsha indicates problems related to psyche than real decease. Venus the Lord of Budhisthana is also devoid of strength from Navamsha being in Sagitarius Navamsha. Budhi sthana is occupied by Sun Lord of 8th in enemy house and placed in enemy Navamsha of saturn. > Add to this the fact that the only planets getting Yogakaraka strength are these very planets (Association with Trinal Quadrant Lords).Saturn Lord of the Ascendant in 2nd shows her capability to earn on her own. > To add to this Mercury the 9th lord and Karaka for Buddhi associates with 3rd and 12th lord Jupiter. > Despite of this she has success in her fields as Mars causes Panchamahapurusha yoga in 4th house, though devoid of digbala. He gains strength from Navamsha being in Cancer Navamsha. > This apart please do not ask her to wear a pearl as this would add to her woes. If you want to use a gem, use Diamond so that her 5th house and its Lord is strengthened. Mantras and other remedies might be suggested by Gurus having mastery over that part of Astrology. > Hope this helps. By the way did her problems first surface from Jupiter- Mercury Maha- Antardasha? > Chandrashekhar. > - > Astro Student > vedic astrology > Wednesday, May 14, 2003 2:38 AM > [vedic astrology] Gurus, please advise Gem, Mantra, verify my basic analysis - Mental health issue > > > Dear Gurus and others, > > My sister has for many years now been coping with Obsessive- Compulsive Disorder (OCD). It surfaced in a bad way (uncontrollable obsession with disease to the point of bringing life to a complete halt) many years ago and with medication and counseling it is kept under control - her experience of the problem was also published in a New Delhi newspaper many years ago with the view of helping others who might have a hard time recognizing and dealing with similar problems. There is no real problem right now - she is a talented artist and an experienced producer of well known TV programs and documentary films. However, with my continuing increased interest in astrology, I would like to constructively figure out the right gem to wear and perhaps some mantras to recite. The general interest to this group is that they can see a chart with OCD - please no blanket public pronouncements couched in negativity though - I am listening. Her chart is attached, unrectified of course (for rectification purposes, she is the eldest of three children - 2 daughters and 1 son (me) and I'm the youngest, and of course her career is in the creative arts area, and she lives in India with my parents - she is unmarried - my other sister and I are in the US). My rectified chart (by Zoran hence reliable) is also attached. > > It seems to me that the problem is due to affliction of the Moon in the 6th tightly conjunct Rahu (exalted in Rasi) in several vargas. Rahu is the Atmakaraka so obviously this problem is severe and key to her existence. Moon in the 6th also seems to ratify the obsession with disease. Also, if not for the Moon, there would be a Kala Sarpa Yoga, I think. So, all the more, it seems to me that the solution lies in strengthening the Moon since it additionally is a natural benefic and perhaps also functional since it rules the 7th. If you agree, would the right stone be pearl then? What hand, what finger, what weight ("rati"s is what the jewellers seem to ask)? Also, what Mantra? "Om Namah Shivaya" seems to me to be a safe 6 syllable mantra which I believe will be targeted to the 6th house. However, it does not take the name into consideration, and is not particularly targeted at the moon etc. Her name is Renuka. Additionally please note that she is beginning the hard part of Sade-Sati - again pressure on the Moon. Please advise accordingly. > > > Thank you, > Sundeep > > > -- ---------- > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 Dear Sundeep, If you remember my post,I had pointed out mercury too contributing to her problems and Saturn as Lord of the Asendant would give contra results in its own Antar in its Mahadasha. Moreever Saturn aspecting it both natally and in transit around the time indicated by you(Late 1994-1995) aggravated the problems. Chandrashekhar. - vedicastrostudent vedic astrology Friday, May 16, 2003 2:28 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Gurus, please advise Gem, Mantra: Sarajit, Chandrashekhar - Questions, Info Dear Chandrashekhar, Sarajit, Laurie and others,Thank you much for your replies. I am putting my questions and more info for you in this one reply:1) First, you are all very clear that pearl is not the solution. I dont understand that very well. Like I said, her OCD is "fear of disease and suffering". It is not an excessive desire type OCD - which is why I suspected the Moon - imbalances in the mind rather than in desires (Venus). Additionally, B.V.Raman has stated in several places I think that mental health issues always involve heavily afflicted Moon and/or Mercury. Is it because Moon rules the 7th and is a maraka (I thought I read somewhere that Sun and Moon never act as marakas)? Or is it because Moon being a benefic rules a quadrant? If benefics rule only quadrants do they functionally have some maleficence?2) Secondly, the problems may have first surfaced rarely but never seriously during childhood (this is in response to Chandrashekar's "when did they first surface.."). The really bad time was actually in late 1994 and 1995. Sat-Sat and early Sat-Merc in Vimsottari terms. Sat-Venus was actually quite good. Can you explain this? In terms of Narayan dasa, it appears to be Pi-Sc - again kind of confuses me.3) Thirdly, as Laurie privately noted, Ketu is exalted Mokshakaraka in 12th house, so I am guessing capacity for spirituality is high (though not exercised well yet). So I am definitely very keen on worship of Ishta Devata, especially since it is definitely involved in the problem. To this end, I need elaboration on Sarajit's "worship of Annapoorneshwari" remedy - I am sorry, I am a little uneducated in this matter - what exactly should be done (in some detail) and how does it correlate with Venus in Sagittarius (Navamsa position of Ishta-Devata)? I will definitely comply with your instructions. Ideally I was looking for some mantra that was correct for her name and specifically took into account that her Ishta devata was Venus and in Sagittarius. I also personally like meditative recital since it (seems to me) to bring awareness. 4) Also evidently since she is never married and Upapada is Leo, which is aspected both by Saturn and Jupiter, doesn't seem badly afflicted. But Sun itself is in "sankranti" (as noted by Laurie) and the 5th house is in Papakartari with Mars and Rahu. Which one (or both) is more importantly the reason for Upapada affliction? What should be done about it?thank you very much againSundeepvedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Sundeep,> Her problem has arisen from, obviously a heavyli afflicted Moon and placement of Venus the Yogakaraka and lord ofthe Buddhisthana.> Lord of the 5th in 6th indicates self created enemies/deceases amd Moon with kendradhipati dosha being maraka by virtue of becoming owner of a quadrant, afflicted by Rahu in enemy house and enemy Navamsha indicates problems related to psyche than real decease. Venus the Lord of Budhisthana is also devoid of strength from Navamsha being in Sagitarius Navamsha. Budhi sthana is occupied by Sun Lord of 8th in enemy house and placed in enemy Navamsha of saturn.> Add to this the fact that the only planets getting Yogakaraka strength are these very planets (Association with Trinal Quadrant Lords).Saturn Lord of the Ascendant in 2nd shows her capability to earn on her own.> To add to this Mercury the 9th lord and Karaka for Buddhi associates with 3rd and 12th lord Jupiter.> Despite of this she has success in her fields as Mars causes Panchamahapurusha yoga in 4th house, though devoid of digbala. He gains strength from Navamsha being in Cancer Navamsha.> This apart please do not ask her to wear a pearl as this would add to her woes. If you want to use a gem, use Diamond so that her 5th house and its Lord is strengthened. Mantras and other remedies might be suggested by Gurus having mastery over that part of Astrology.> Hope this helps. By the way did her problems first surface from Jupiter- Mercury Maha- Antardasha?> Chandrashekhar.> ----- Original Message ----- > Astro Student > vedic astrology > Sent: Wednesday, May 14, 2003 2:38 AM> [vedic astrology] Gurus, please advise Gem, Mantra, verify my basic analysis - Mental health issue> > > Dear Gurus and others,> > My sister has for many years now been coping with Obsessive-Compulsive Disorder (OCD). It surfaced in a bad way (uncontrollable obsession with disease to the point of bringing life to a complete halt) many years ago and with medication and counseling it is kept under control - her experience of the problem was also published in a New Delhi newspaper many years ago with the view of helping others who might have a hard time recognizing and dealing with similar problems. There is no real problem right now - she is a talented artist and an experienced producer of well known TV programs and documentary films. However, with my continuing increased interest in astrology, I would like to constructively figure out the right gem to wear and perhaps some mantras to recite. The general interest to this group is that they can see a chart with OCD - please no blanket public pronouncements couched in negativity though - I am listening. Her chart is attached, unrectified of course (for rectification purposes, she is the eldest of three children - 2 daughters and 1 son (me) and I'm the youngest, and of course her career is in the creative arts area, and she lives in India with my parents - she is unmarried - my other sister and I are in the US). My rectified chart (by Zoran hence reliable) is also attached. > > It seems to me that the problem is due to affliction of the Moon in the 6th tightly conjunct Rahu (exalted in Rasi) in several vargas. Rahu is the Atmakaraka so obviously this problem is severe and key to her existence. Moon in the 6th also seems to ratify the obsession with disease. Also, if not for the Moon, there would be a Kala Sarpa Yoga, I think. So, all the more, it seems to me that the solution lies in strengthening the Moon since it additionally is a natural benefic and perhaps also functional since it rules the 7th. If you agree, would the right stone be pearl then? What hand, what finger, what weight ("rati"s is what the jewellers seem to ask)? Also, what Mantra? "Om Namah Shivaya" seems to me to be a safe 6 syllable mantra which I believe will be targeted to the 6th house. However, it does not take the name into consideration, and is not particularly targeted at the moon etc. Her name is Renuka. Additionally please note that she is beginning the hard part of Sade-Sati - again pressure on the Moon. Please advise accordingly. > > > Thank you,> Sundeep> > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... 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Guest guest Posted May 16, 2003 Report Share Posted May 16, 2003 Jaya JagannathDear Sundeep, 1. Timing the problem: Now which dasa can manifest such problem is the question. Once we have identified the source of the problem it becomes very simple. I said that the source of trouble is the 5th house and 5th lord. The troubles of the planet shall manifest in the following planet's periods: a. Malefics placed in the Kendra or kona to the troubled house (also the malefics are not the lord or the karaka of the house under consideration) b. Malefics aspecting the troubled house (again they should not be the karaka or the lord of the house) c. The trouble maker (The planet who is creating the trouble- here it is Rahu). Now we see that Saturn is placed in the Kendra to the lord of the 5th venus, who is under affliction by Rahu and in Kendra to the 5th house and has the capacity to affect those houses and the lords in its dasa. Now which antardasa? Antardasa lord might support or oppose the dasa lord (the king of that time) and some are compelled (where the antar lord is very weak). Now the problem manifested, immediately the Saturn dasa started in Sat- Sat. However, the antar of Merc should not have been that bad, as it is trying to protect the 5th house by opposing Rahu, but the dasa lord is too strong for Mercury to protect. However, Mars and Jupiter are strongly placed to protect the 5th house. So their Antar shall be better. Saturn- Venus was good because, Venus is the lord of the 5th house and shall try protecting its house. The bad period should have been be Rahu-Venus. Please get back, if that is correct. 2. Ista Mantra: I am not learned in the field of worshipping. I have suggested the ISTA Devata as per Harihara in Prasna Marga. Learned members might like to contribute on the same. However, she can start chanting the Dwadashakhari Ista Mantra: || Om Namo Bhagavate Hrishikeshaya || I wish her all the best in her recovery. Best Wishes Sarajit - "vedicastrostudent" <vedicastrostudent > <vedic astrology> Friday, May 16, 2003 4:58 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Gurus, please advise Gem, Mantra: Sarajit, Chandrashekhar - Questions, Info > Dear Chandrashekhar, Sarajit, Laurie and others,> > Thank you much for your replies. I am putting my questions and more > info for you in this one reply:> > 1) First, you are all very clear that pearl is not the solution. I > dont understand that very well. Like I said, her OCD is "fear of > disease and suffering". It is not an excessive desire type OCD - > which is why I suspected the Moon - imbalances in the mind rather > than in desires (Venus). Additionally, B.V.Raman has stated in > several places I think that mental health issues always involve > heavily afflicted Moon and/or Mercury. Is it because Moon rules the > 7th and is a maraka (I thought I read somewhere that Sun and Moon > never act as marakas)? Or is it because Moon being a benefic rules a > quadrant? If benefics rule only quadrants do they functionally have > some maleficence?> > 2) Secondly, the problems may have first surfaced rarely but never > seriously during childhood (this is in response to > Chandrashekar's "when did they first surface.."). The really bad time > was actually in late 1994 and 1995. Sat-Sat and early Sat-Merc in > Vimsottari terms. Sat-Venus was actually quite good. Can you explain > this? In terms of Narayan dasa, it appears to be Pi-Sc - again kind > of confuses me.> > 3) Thirdly, as Laurie privately noted, Ketu is exalted Mokshakaraka > in 12th house, so I am guessing capacity for spirituality is high > (though not exercised well yet). So I am definitely very keen on > worship of Ishta Devata, especially since it is definitely involved > in the problem. To this end, I need elaboration on Sarajit's "worship > of Annapoorneshwari" remedy - I am sorry, I am a little uneducated in > this matter - what exactly should be done (in some detail) and how > does it correlate with Venus in Sagittarius (Navamsa position of > Ishta-Devata)? I will definitely comply with your instructions. > Ideally I was looking for some mantra that was correct for her name > and specifically took into account that her Ishta devata was Venus > and in Sagittarius. I also personally like meditative recital since > it (seems to me) to bring awareness. > > 4) Also evidently since she is never married and Upapada is Leo, > which is aspected both by Saturn and Jupiter, doesn't seem badly > afflicted. But Sun itself is in "sankranti" (as noted by Laurie) and > the 5th house is in Papakartari with Mars and Rahu. Which one (or > both) is more importantly the reason for Upapada affliction? What > should be done about it?> > thank you very much again> > Sundeep> > > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > <boxdel> wrote:> > Dear Sundeep,> > Her problem has arisen from, obviously a heavyli afflicted Moon and > placement of Venus the Yogakaraka and lord ofthe Buddhisthana.> > Lord of the 5th in 6th indicates self created enemies/deceases amd > Moon with kendradhipati dosha being maraka by virtue of becoming > owner of a quadrant, afflicted by Rahu in enemy house and enemy > Navamsha indicates problems related to psyche than real decease. > Venus the Lord of Budhisthana is also devoid of strength from > Navamsha being in Sagitarius Navamsha. Budhi sthana is occupied by > Sun Lord of 8th in enemy house and placed in enemy Navamsha of saturn.> > Add to this the fact that the only planets getting Yogakaraka > strength are these very planets (Association with Trinal Quadrant > Lords).Saturn Lord of the Ascendant in 2nd shows her capability to > earn on her own.> > To add to this Mercury the 9th lord and Karaka for Buddhi > associates with 3rd and 12th lord Jupiter.> > Despite of this she has success in her fields as Mars causes > Panchamahapurusha yoga in 4th house, though devoid of digbala. He > gains strength from Navamsha being in Cancer Navamsha.> > This apart please do not ask her to wear a pearl as this would add > to her woes. If you want to use a gem, use Diamond so that her 5th > house and its Lord is strengthened. Mantras and other remedies might > be suggested by Gurus having mastery over that part of Astrology.> > Hope this helps. By the way did her problems first surface from > Jupiter- Mercury Maha- Antardasha?> > Chandrashekhar.> > - > > Astro Student > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, May 14, 2003 2:38 AM> > [vedic astrology] Gurus, please advise Gem, Mantra, > verify my basic analysis - Mental health issue> > > > > > Dear Gurus and others,> > > > My sister has for many years now been coping with Obsessive-> Compulsive Disorder (OCD). It surfaced in a bad way (uncontrollable > obsession with disease to the point of bringing life to a complete > halt) many years ago and with medication and counseling it is kept > under control - her experience of the problem was also published in a > New Delhi newspaper many years ago with the view of helping others > who might have a hard time recognizing and dealing with similar > problems. There is no real problem right now - she is a talented > artist and an experienced producer of well known TV programs and > documentary films. However, with my continuing increased interest in > astrology, I would like to constructively figure out the right gem to > wear and perhaps some mantras to recite. The general interest to this > group is that they can see a chart with OCD - please no blanket > public pronouncements couched in negativity though - I am listening. > Her chart is attached, unrectified of course (for rectification > purposes, she is the eldest of three children - 2 daughters and 1 son > (me) and I'm the youngest, and of course her career is in the > creative arts area, and she lives in India with my parents - she is > unmarried - my other sister and I are in the US). My rectified chart > (by Zoran hence reliable) is also attached. > > > > It seems to me that the problem is due to affliction of the Moon > in the 6th tightly conjunct Rahu (exalted in Rasi) in several vargas. > Rahu is the Atmakaraka so obviously this problem is severe and key to > her existence. Moon in the 6th also seems to ratify the obsession > with disease. Also, if not for the Moon, there would be a Kala Sarpa > Yoga, I think. So, all the more, it seems to me that the solution > lies in strengthening the Moon since it additionally is a natural > benefic and perhaps also functional since it rules the 7th. If you > agree, would the right stone be pearl then? What hand, what finger, > what weight ("rati"s is what the jewellers seem to ask)? Also, what > Mantra? "Om Namah Shivaya" seems to me to be a safe 6 syllable mantra > which I believe will be targeted to the 6th house. However, it does > not take the name into consideration, and is not particularly > targeted at the moon etc. Her name is Renuka. Additionally please > note that she is beginning the hard part of Sade-Sati - again > pressure on the Moon. Please advise accordingly. > > > > > > Thank you,> > Sundeep> > > > > > --> ----------> > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. 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