Guest guest Posted May 6, 2003 Report Share Posted May 6, 2003 Dear Sanjayji, In point 2, you had mentioned dualities. Would you please clarify for my sake 1) Kumbha lagna with Sat & Sun in 3rd house. Implying Poverty to Riches through bravery (risk-taking in life). Same Lagna but in 9th house (Thula) implying poverty to riches through Spouse/partnerships. I am just trying to grasp with my limited intellect the vice versa part and would you be kind enough to give a brief example if you can find the time. Best Regards Senthilkumar vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <srath@s...> wrote: > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah|| > Dear Ajit > Neechabhanga occurs due to the following: > 1. Kendra: The kendra are the Vishnu sthana and the planet owning the sign of debility or the sign of exaltation of the debilitated planet should be in Kendra to Lagna or the Moon. > 2. The debilitated planet should be conjoined an exalted planet. This cannot happen for the Moon & its nodes Rahu/Ketu but can happen for the remaining six planets in three groups of two each. The three groups are Sun & Saturn indicating poverty to riches or vice versa; Mars & Jupiter indicating war to peace or vice versa and Mercury & Venus indicating abstinance to enjoyment or vice versa. > 3. The debilitated planet is placed in exalted navamsa. This cannot happen for the Moon, but can happen for the remaining eight planets. It indicates the sudden change in fortune. > > Neechabhanga cannot occur by any other means. It is also not like exaltation and instead there will be debility first and then there will sudden change in fortune i.e. period of bad luck/misfortune followed by good fortune. > > With best wishes & regards, > I remain > Sanjay Rath > -- ------ > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com > -- ------ > > vishwa Nath [astrolover1959] > Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:39 PM > vedic astrology > RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand- To Sanjay Rath Guru ji > > > Dear Sanjay ji: > While on neechabhanga, you clarified that mere placement of a debilitated planet with the lord of that house doesn't cancel the debilitation. But what if the debiltated planet is being aspected by the lord of that house in which the debiltated planet is placed in the natal chart (through graha drshti)? I have read in a few books that this is one of the ways in which neechbhanga occurs. > > Shall be grateful if you could throw some light. > > Thanks and regards, > > Ajit-+ > > Sanjay Rath <srath@s...> wrote: > > > ||Om brihaspataye namah|| > Dear KP Kanitkar > The rules given in the classical texts are for neechabhanga of all graha, it does not specify that the rule will work only for one graha and not for another. So why is this being assumed. > Secondly, conjunction of a debilitated planet wth the lord of the sign of its debility does not cause neechabhanga. See the rules carefully. They are in the archives as I have discussed this in detail earlier. > With best wishes & regards, > I remain > Sanjay Rath > -------- > Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com > -------- > > KPK [kpkanitkar] > Monday, May 05, 2003 9:28 PM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand > > > Hello Experts.. > > Is it true if > 1. Rahu in saggi with Jup in saggi > 2. Rahu in scorpio and Mars in scorpio > > In such cases , Neechbanga happens for Rahu? I am not > sure about neechabanga for Rahu and ketu. I know > about other planets neechbhanga. > > regards > KPK > --- Tanvir <tanvir@s...> wrote: > > Dear KPK :-) > > > > 1. In your D-1, Rahu is in Sagi, but whom is it > > with? Jupiter in own sign! That is why that is a > > "neecha bhanga" (Cancelling of the debilitation.) > > > > 2. In your D-9, Rahu is in Scorpio, but whom is it > > with? Mars in own sign! That is why, neecha bhanga > > again! > > > > So there is no doubt that your Rahu will not give > > result like a debilitated planet. Did you see that? > > > > There are a lot other rules of neecha bhanga. That > > is why it is always better to submit the birth data > > when you are talking about a chart. I doubt who is > > the one who can tell a result of a planet correctly > > only hearing which sign it is in :-) > > > > As I stated in earlier post, there can be hardly any > > good effect from debilitated planet unless it is > > neecha bhanga. And when there is neecha bhanga, you > > can not expect debilitated results anymore! That is > > what the name of the yoga says! :-) > > > > What you said, about good effects in Rahu periods. > > That can be a neecha bhanga raja yoga also! It is > > not possible without seeing your chart that is why I > > was telling about the chart data. The fact is that, > > you have already neecha bhanga that is enough not to > > give you the maleficness as from a debilitated > > planet. > > > > To me, the only benefit from a debilitated planet is > > that when the planet is engaged in a very bad yoga. > > So being very weak in debilitation, it can not give > > much effect of the yoga. It happens in the case when > > the yoga is very bad, even worse than a debilitated > > planet's effect. That is why even having a > > debilitated planet is better than having the effect > > of that yoga :-) > > > > I do not know any other benefit from a debilitated > > planet (otherwise neecha bhanga). Well there might > > be some yoga for debilitated planets, but I am > > talking about general rules. > > > > So if any member can enlighten me, I would be very > > grateful :-) > > > > Regards, > > Tanvir > > > > > > "What can not happen, can never happen. > > Which is mine, is forever mine." > > > > Tanvir Chowdhury > > tanvir@s... > > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > > > > > > - > > KPK > > vedic astrology > > Friday, May 02, 2003 10:25 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand > > > > > > Hello RK > > > > I agree with u that it is not always true that > > debilitated planets give bad results. > > > > > > In my case Rahu in Saggi in 4th house(With Jup in > > Own > > house saggi) in D-1 and Rahu in Scorpio(With Mars > > in > > Scorpio own house) in D-9. My RAhu dasha was > > really > > rewarding during my education. And Just before end > > of > > Rahu Mahdasha, In Rahu Mangal I got employed and > > started earning. > > > > Regards > > KPK > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > http://search. > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker > Sponsor > > > What's new? > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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