RE: Left hand- To Sanjay Rath Guru ji - parivartan

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Namaste Sanjay ji,

 

Thanks for explaination on neechabhanga.

 

But can parivartan be considered as neechabhanga.

For example Venus in Virgo and Mercury in Libra.

 

As parivartan literally means change in behaviour.So

even if venus is in sign of debility it will act like

in being in exalted state.

 

So is it neechabhanga or all together different

phenomenon.

 

Regards

Parag

 

--- Sanjay Rath <srath wrote:

>

>

> ||Om brihaspataye namah||

> Dear Ajit

> Neechabhanga occurs due to the following:

> 1. Kendra: The kendra are the Vishnu sthana and the

> planet owning the sign of debility or the sign of

> exaltation of the debilitated planet should be in

> Kendra to Lagna or the Moon.

> 2. The debilitated planet should be conjoined an

> exalted planet. This cannot happen for the Moon &

> its nodes Rahu/Ketu but can happen for the remaining

> six planets in three groups of two each. The three

> groups are Sun & Saturn indicating poverty to riches

> or vice versa; Mars & Jupiter indicating war to

> peace or vice versa and Mercury & Venus indicating

> abstinance to enjoyment or vice versa.

> 3. The debilitated planet is placed in exalted

> navamsa. This cannot happen for the Moon, but can

> happen for the remaining eight planets. It indicates

> the sudden change in fortune.

>

> Neechabhanga cannot occur by any other means. It is

> also not like exaltation and instead there will be

> debility first and then there will sudden change in

> fortune i.e. period of bad luck/misfortune followed

> by good fortune.

>

> With best wishes & regards,

> I remain

> Sanjay Rath

>

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> vishwa Nath [astrolover1959]

> Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:39 PM

> vedic astrology

> RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand- To

> Sanjay Rath Guru ji

>

>

> Dear Sanjay ji:

> While on neechabhanga, you clarified that mere

> placement of a debilitated planet with the lord of

> that house doesn't cancel the debilitation. But what

> if the debiltated planet is being aspected by the

> lord of that house in which the debiltated planet is

> placed in the natal chart (through graha drshti)? I

> have read in a few books that this is one of the

> ways in which neechbhanga occurs.

>

> Shall be grateful if you could throw some light.

>

> Thanks and regards,

>

> Ajit-+

>

> Sanjay Rath <srath wrote:

>

>

> ||Om brihaspataye namah||

> Dear KP Kanitkar

> The rules given in the classical texts are for

> neechabhanga of all graha, it does not specify that

> the rule will work only for one graha and not for

> another. So why is this being assumed.

> Secondly, conjunction of a debilitated planet wth

> the lord of the sign of its debility does not cause

> neechabhanga. See the rules carefully. They are in

> the archives as I have discussed this in detail

> earlier.

> With best wishes & regards,

> I remain

> Sanjay Rath

>

>

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> Mail: H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

> Tel:+91-674-2436871, Webpages: http://srath.com

>

>

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> KPK [kpkanitkar]

> Monday, May 05, 2003 9:28 PM

> vedic astrology

> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand

>

>

> Hello Experts..

>

> Is it true if

> 1. Rahu in saggi with Jup in saggi

> 2. Rahu in scorpio and Mars in scorpio

>

> In such cases , Neechbanga happens for Rahu? I am

> not

> sure about neechabanga for Rahu and ketu. I know

> about other planets neechbhanga.

>

> regards

> KPK

> --- Tanvir <tanvir wrote:

> > Dear KPK :-)

> >

> > 1. In your D-1, Rahu is in Sagi, but whom is it

> > with? Jupiter in own sign! That is why that is a

> > "neecha bhanga" (Cancelling of the

> debilitation.)

> >

> > 2. In your D-9, Rahu is in Scorpio, but whom is

> it

> > with? Mars in own sign! That is why, neecha

> bhanga

> > again!

> >

> > So there is no doubt that your Rahu will not

> give

> > result like a debilitated planet. Did you see

> that?

> >

> > There are a lot other rules of neecha bhanga.

> That

> > is why it is always better to submit the birth

> data

> > when you are talking about a chart. I doubt who

> is

> > the one who can tell a result of a planet

> correctly

> > only hearing which sign it is in :-)

> >

> > As I stated in earlier post, there can be hardly

> any

> > good effect from debilitated planet unless it is

> > neecha bhanga. And when there is neecha bhanga,

> you

> > can not expect debilitated results anymore! That

> is

> > what the name of the yoga says! :-)

> >

> > What you said, about good effects in Rahu

> periods.

> > That can be a neecha bhanga raja yoga also! It

> is

> > not possible without seeing your chart that is

> why I

> > was telling about the chart data. The fact is

> that,

> > you have already neecha bhanga that is enough

> not to

> > give you the maleficness as from a debilitated

> > planet.

> >

> > To me, the only benefit from a debilitated

> planet is

> > that when the planet is engaged in a very bad

> yoga.

> > So being very weak in debilitation, it can not

> give

> > much effect of the yoga. It happens in the case

> when

> > the yoga is very bad, even worse than a

> debilitated

> > planet's effect. That is why even having a

> > debilitated planet is better than having the

> effect

> > of that yoga :-)

> >

> > I do not know any other benefit from a

> debilitated

> > planet (otherwise neecha bhanga). Well there

> might

> > be some yoga for debilitated planets, but I am

> > talking about general rules.

> >

> > So if any member can enlighten me, I would be

> very

> > grateful :-)

> >

> > Regards,

> > Tanvir

> >

> >

> > "What can not happen, can never happen.

> > Which is mine, is forever mine."

> >

> > Tanvir Chowdhury

> > tanvir

> > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir

> > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro

> >

> >

> >

> > -

> > KPK

> > vedic astrology

> > Friday, May 02, 2003 10:25 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand

> >

> >

> > Hello RK

>

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