Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Hello RK I agree with u that it is not always true that debilitated planets give bad results. In my case Rahu in Saggi in 4th house(With Jup in Own house saggi) in D-1 and Rahu in Scorpio(With Mars in Scorpio own house) in D-9. My RAhu dasha was really rewarding during my education. And Just before end of Rahu Mahdasha, In Rahu Mangal I got employed and started earning. Regards KPK --- Rup Krishen Baqaya <rkbaqaya wrote: > Well it is not always that debilitated planets give > bad results.In respect of a debilitated venus in the > 2nd house for leo ascendant,Bhrigu says that the > native lives his life like a lord.Even a debilitated > saturn in the 5th house for saggitarius ascendant is > not bad.For that matter Mars in cancer in the 7th > house is not supposed to be mangli dosha.Please > understand astrology is infinite.You cannot simplify > astrology by merely saying that debilitated is bad > and exalted is good.An exalted Sun in the lagna > gives too much ego,which isolates the man and makes > him many enemies.There was one astrologer in > Maharashtra,very very famous late Mr.katway,he died > in 1949.He was of the view that exalted planets give > bad results and debilitated planets give good > results.In order to balance your outlook,i suggest > that you read his series of books on each planet. > RK > > Rajeswari Shankar <rajeswarishankar > wrote:Hi Rk & Rama Priya, How can rahu is in scorpio > is beneficial.Is it debliated right?? ThanksRaji > > Ramapriya D <hubli wrote:Hi RK, > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 > signs you've mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm > surprised that Aq, which he co-lords, is missing. > Also, I would've thought that Ra in either Sg or Pi > is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju > who's Ra's antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for > why Ra in either 9H or 12H is considered so > undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the natural > zodiac). Just for interest, can you quote the > specific sloka and chapter numbers of BPHS where > Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8 signs > you've mentioned? Thanks again for making this an > interesting thread. And if you've anything similar > to say about Ke, please do; information about the > nodes isn't copious. Warm regards, > Ramapriyahubli - > Rup Krishen Baqaya To: > vedic astrology Thursday, May > 01, 2003 8:45 AMRe: [vedic astrology] Re: > Left hand > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance > of giving sickness.That is why, you will notice that > in all my posts i have mentioned that the totality > of the circumstances is to be seen.Let us say that > in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong > and the native is also not running a period which > can cause bad health,there would be no harm in > wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if > otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar > i had explained this while mentioning about the gem > of a planet placed in the 6th house.One more > point.In your post you have mentioned about Raahu in > the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many > many great men had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi > had raahu in the 10th,so had Subhash Bose,as also > Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many others.It of > course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For > example, i myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign > Taurus.Every time Raahu antara came in my life,it > gave me a promotion or ce rtain incidents happened > which raised my career profile to great heights.You > see raahu in the > signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius > and pisces is always capable of conferring good > effects,according to Parashara.And 10th house raahu > is definitely not always bad.hope this clarifies.Bye > RK > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. > Sponsor > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu > || > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 My dear,i don't know why you think Guru is antithesis of Raahu.Guru's aspect on raahu gives it direction and is always good.Then isn't guru's bhukti in Raahu mahadasha supposed to be good.And who told you that Raahu in 9th is bad .Raahu in trines is supposed to give grand results when associated with a kendra lord.With due regards to you,i think you are too young and need much more exposure to astrology,though you no doubt are brilliant.Hope you don't mind this advice from an elder.I am sorry that i cannot quote the exact sanskrit shaloka from Parashar,since i did not quote directly from Parashar,but from a very rare book which is a detailed and exhaustive translation of parashar's dashafala done by one N.N.Krishna Rau a great sanskrit scholar in 1958.The man was so poor that he could not afford to print it.So he made a huge typed manuscript and got 300 copies stencilled.He sold these then to 300 leading astrologers at Rs.15 each.As is the wont with our professional astrologers,they kept this book hidden from all and so not many know about it.I tell you the book is great and goes to the extent of modifying the dashafal even on the basis of conjuctions and aspects to the Bhuktinath.If one had the time and capacity to analyse ,the results one would get from the book would be great.I was lucky to get a copy of this book from the late Raman Thakkar,then a leading professional astrologer of Bombay.I hope i have clarified everything.Bye. RkRamapriya D <hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote: Hi RK, Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs you've mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which he co-lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either Sg or Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or 12H is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the natural zodiac). Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and chapter numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8 signs you've mentioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting thread. And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do; information about the nodes isn't copious. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com - Rup Krishen Baqaya vedic astrology Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of giving sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i have mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be seen.Let us say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and the native is also not running a period which can cause bad health,there would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had explained this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the 6th house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about Raahu in the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great men had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so had Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many others.It of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For example, i myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time Raahu antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain incidents happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You see raahu in the signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius and pisces is always capable of conferring good effects,according to Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always bad.hope this clarifies.Bye RKArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Om Namah ShivayaDear RKi wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who suffer in rahu dasa.regardsparthaOm Tat Sat--- In vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D" <hubli@v...> wrote:> Hi RK,> > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs you've mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which he co-lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either Sg or Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or 12H is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the natural zodiac).> > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and chapter numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8 signs you've mentioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting thread. And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do; information about the nodes isn't copious.> > Warm regards,> > Ramapriya> hubli@v...> > ----- Original Message ----- > Rup Krishen Baqaya > To: vedic astrology > Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> > > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of giving sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i have mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be seen.Let us say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and the native is also not running a period which can cause bad health,there would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had explained this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the 6th house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about Raahu in the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great men had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so had Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many others.It of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For example, i myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time Raahu antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain incidents happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You see raahu in the signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius and pisces is always capable of conferring good effects,according to Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always bad.hope this clarifies.Bye RKArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear Partha, I think we may just have missed something that RK's trying to convey. I don't think he's singing Ra's praises. If I've understood him correctly, I think he's trying to say that Ra isn't always malefic for all, esp when alone in 6H, 8H, 10H or 11H and in one of the 8 rasis he mentions. What's really worth waiting for is the reference of Parasara's quote in BPHS of Ra's beneficience. Warm regards, Ramapriya hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com - "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5 > <vedic astrology> Thursday, May 01, 2003 10:18 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand > Om Namah Shivaya> Dear RK> > > i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who suffer in > rahu dasa.> > regards> partha Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear KPK :-) 1. In your D-1, Rahu is in Sagi, but whom is it with? Jupiter in own sign! That is why that is a "neecha bhanga" (Cancelling of the debilitation.)2. In your D-9, Rahu is in Scorpio, but whom is it with? Mars in own sign! That is why, neecha bhanga again!So there is no doubt that your Rahu will not give result like a debilitated planet. Did you see that?There are a lot other rules of neecha bhanga. That is why it is always better to submit the birth data when you are talking about a chart. I doubt who is the one who can tell a result of a planet correctly only hearing which sign it is in :-)As I stated in earlier post, there can be hardly any good effect from debilitated planet unless it is neecha bhanga. And when there is neecha bhanga, you can not expect debilitated results anymore! That is what the name of the yoga says! :-) What you said, about good effects in Rahu periods. That can be a neecha bhanga raja yoga also! It is not possible without seeing your chart that is why I was telling about the chart data. The fact is that, you have already neecha bhanga that is enough not to give you the maleficness as from a debilitated planet. To me, the only benefit from a debilitated planet is that when the planet is engaged in a very bad yoga. So being very weak in debilitation, it can not give much effect of the yoga. It happens in the case when the yoga is very bad, even worse than a debilitated planet's effect. That is why even having a debilitated planet is better than having the effect of that yoga :-)I do not know any other benefit from a debilitated planet (otherwise neecha bhanga). Well there might be some yoga for debilitated planets, but I am talking about general rules. So if any member can enlighten me, I would be very grateful :-)Regards,Tanvir "What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine." Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - KPK vedic astrology Friday, May 02, 2003 10:25 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand Hello RKI agree with u that it is not always true thatdebilitated planets give bad results.In my case Rahu in Saggi in 4th house(With Jup in Ownhouse saggi) in D-1 and Rahu in Scorpio(With Mars inScorpio own house) in D-9. My RAhu dasha was reallyrewarding during my education. And Just before end ofRahu Mahdasha, In Rahu Mangal I got employed andstarted earning.RegardsKPK Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear Sanjay Jee, Thanks for the excellent post :-)Regards,Tanvir "What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine." Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - Sanjay Rath vedic astrology Saturday, May 03, 2003 1:43 AM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand ||Om brihaspataye namah|| Dear Sri Baqaya ji, Namaste. In another mail you have quoted that (a) rahu in trines gives excellent results, (b) Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives excellent results and © Rahu dasa - Jupiter antardasa gives good results A) To the first point let me make it clear that Rahu is a first rate malefic and evil planet and shall give all the evil results that one can possibly imagine in a chart. Now, with this premise, when Rahu is in trines it is 'like a snake up the sleeve' are the words of Dr Raman and to this I agree. Almost every chart with Rahu in the fifth house has seen some terrible relationship issues without fail, and more so if this Rahu is to conjoin or aspect Venus. In the ninth house, Rahu is placed in its Marana Karaka sthana and this will bring death like suffering in matters connected to the bhava indicated by the Kumbha rasi. B). Dasa-bhukti analaysis requires a good working and broad view of Jyotish. Here the rule given is "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives excellent results" which is Correct and I fully agree with this, but the rule is INCOMPLETE. The rule should read "Rahu conjoined a lord of a kendra placed in a trine gives excellent results during its dasa while the dasa of the Kendra lord shall give apamrityu bhaya and death like suffering." This is a very simple rule and is based on the teachings of Ramanujacarya in Bhavartha ratnakara. When any planet conjoins Rahu, Rahu shall give its results whereas the planet conjoining Rahu shall give the results of Rahu during its dasa. So, Rahu dasa shall be excellent as the Rajyoga indicated by the Kendra lord placed in a trine shall give results. this is very simple to understand. For example, Vrisab Lagna with rahu and Saturn in the ninth house. Rahu dasa everyone said all kinds of things, but the native had Rajyoga. You can see that rahu has conjoined Saturn the yogakaraka placed in the ninth house i.e. Rahu dasa was actually behaving like Saturn dasa for Vrisad lagna. Then when Saturn dasa came, the life has become like hell for the native. Even hell would seem a better place. So you see during Saturn dasa he actually got Marana Karaka Rahu results. This happens with Rahu. C) Jupiter antardasa in Rahu dasa is the relief expected. Look at the reverse Jupiter dasa-rahu antardasa. Why are the results invariably so terrible? In the first case Rahu indicates the native and Jupiter will indicate his samsara. So, native is in a Bhoga mood with rahu dasa and the samsara is in a great giver mood in Jupiter antardasa, so the results are good. The reverse works for Jupiter dasa Rahu antardasa. Of course, there must be a lot more to this as these are very general results. Finally, I too am a professional astrologer but do not sell stones nor rituals. However selling gemstones or performing rituals is not a bad thing. These would not be classified as vices. However, I fully agree with you that some people claiming to be Vedic astrologers are doing such things of forcing people to do rituals and take some magic things. It is our best intention to do something seriously about this misuse of the name of Jyotish. Mostly these people do not know anything and are not serious about learning either. Thank you for pointing this out as there are many who will share your views in this matter. Yes we have to do something soon. With best wishes & regards, I remain Sanjay Rath Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Anybody says if lagna is pieces & Rahu is in scorpio(9th place) & its lord mars is in 10th place saggitarius??How the rahu dasa will be ??I would be appreciate if somebody clarifies my doubt.Note that I am a learner in astrolgy. Thanks Raji Tanvir <tanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) com> wrote: Dear KPK :-) 1. In your D-1, Rahu is in Sagi, but whom is it with? Jupiter in own sign! That is why that is a "neecha bhanga" (Cancelling of the debilitation.)2. In your D-9, Rahu is in Scorpio, but whom is it with? Mars in own sign! That is why, neecha bhanga again!So there is no doubt that your Rahu will not give result like a debilitated planet. Did you see that?There are a lot other rules of neecha bhanga. That is why it is always better to submit the birth data when you are talking about a chart. I doubt who is the one who can tell a result of a planet correctly only hearing which sign it is in :-)As I stated in earlier post, there can be hardly any good effect from debilitated planet unless it is neecha bhanga. And when there is neecha bhanga, you can not expect debilitated results anymore! That is what the name of the yoga says! :-) What you said, about good effects in Rahu periods. That can be a neecha bhanga raja yoga also! It is not possible without seeing your chart that is why I was telling about the chart data. The fact is that, you have already neecha bhanga that is enough not to give you the maleficness as from a debilitated planet. To me, the only benefit from a debilitated planet is that when the planet is engaged in a very bad yoga. So being very weak in debilitation, it can not give much effect of the yoga. It happens in the case when the yoga is very bad, even worse than a debilitated planet's effect. That is why even having a debilitated planet is better than having the effect of that yoga :-)I do not know any other benefit from a debilitated planet (otherwise neecha bhanga). Well there might be some yoga for debilitated planets, but I am talking about general rules. So if any member can enlighten me, I would be very grateful :-)Regards,Tanvir "What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine." Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - KPK vedic astrology Friday, May 02, 2003 10:25 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand Hello RKI agree with u that it is not always true thatdebilitated planets give bad results.In my case Rahu in Saggi in 4th house(With Jup in Ownhouse saggi) in D-1 and Rahu in Scorpio(With Mars inScorpio own house) in D-9. My RAhu dasha was reallyrewarding during my education. And Just before end ofRahu Mahdasha, In Rahu Mangal I got employed andstarted earning.RegardsKPKArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Hi Tanvir Thank u very much for ur explaination. I was nott aware Rahu and Ketu also have neechbhanga/ Neechabnag Rajyogas. I thought its only for other planets. I did not give birth data here as on this forum there 2 types of people. If I ask some quesion technical in terms of astrology with my birth data I have got reply that this is not forum for free reading. If u want to learn u read archives. The other group of people who are really nice who explain in astrological terms like u. I wanted to avoid the part where people will feel that I am expecting a reading. So I did not give birth data. Otherwise I would definatley like if somebody gives explaination with respect to my chart. I am also student in astroloogy but still at beginner level. 14 Nov 1972 4.22 am Pune India Thank u kpk --- Tanvir <tanvir wrote: > Dear KPK :-) > > 1. In your D-1, Rahu is in Sagi, but whom is it > with? Jupiter in own sign! That is why that is a > "neecha bhanga" (Cancelling of the debilitation.) > > 2. In your D-9, Rahu is in Scorpio, but whom is it > with? Mars in own sign! That is why, neecha bhanga > again! > > So there is no doubt that your Rahu will not give > result like a debilitated planet. Did you see that? > > There are a lot other rules of neecha bhanga. That > is why it is always better to submit the birth data > when you are talking about a chart. I doubt who is > the one who can tell a result of a planet correctly > only hearing which sign it is in :-) > > As I stated in earlier post, there can be hardly any > good effect from debilitated planet unless it is > neecha bhanga. And when there is neecha bhanga, you > can not expect debilitated results anymore! That is > what the name of the yoga says! :-) > > What you said, about good effects in Rahu periods. > That can be a neecha bhanga raja yoga also! It is > not possible without seeing your chart that is why I > was telling about the chart data. The fact is that, > you have already neecha bhanga that is enough not to > give you the maleficness as from a debilitated > planet. > > To me, the only benefit from a debilitated planet is > that when the planet is engaged in a very bad yoga. > So being very weak in debilitation, it can not give > much effect of the yoga. It happens in the case when > the yoga is very bad, even worse than a debilitated > planet's effect. That is why even having a > debilitated planet is better than having the effect > of that yoga :-) > > I do not know any other benefit from a debilitated > planet (otherwise neecha bhanga). Well there might > be some yoga for debilitated planets, but I am > talking about general rules. > > So if any member can enlighten me, I would be very > grateful :-) > > Regards, > Tanvir > > > "What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine." > > Tanvir Chowdhury > tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > > - > KPK > vedic astrology > Friday, May 02, 2003 10:25 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand > > > Hello RK > > I agree with u that it is not always true that > debilitated planets give bad results. > > > In my case Rahu in Saggi in 4th house(With Jup in > Own > house saggi) in D-1 and Rahu in Scorpio(With Mars > in > Scorpio own house) in D-9. My RAhu dasha was > really > rewarding during my education. And Just before end > of > Rahu Mahdasha, In Rahu Mangal I got employed and > started earning. > > Regards > KPK > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Dear KPK, Ooops! I never heard anything like Ra-Ke can not give Neecha Bhanga! As Ra-Ke can be neecha, ucha - then why can not their neecha/ucha be cancelled like other planets? Not sure... May be respected Gurus will guide us :-) Did any reference say that Ra-Ke can not give Neecha Bhanga? Please let me know. Well, the main purpose of this list is discussion of Vedic Astrology and sharing knowledge. But to me, posting any birth data when relevant to the topic might be okay, since it also helps the discussion practically :-) I am not nice, I just sensed that there was a big mistake you were going to make that debilitated planets give very good result sometimes. That is why (Assuming that Ra-Ke can be neecha bhangya) I just wanted to point it out to you. Though this forum is mainly for discussing astrology, I am really sure that there are members here who often help other members with their charts for the sake of help and humanity :-) We all keep taking help from someone or someone. Regards,Tanvir "What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine." Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro - KPK vedic astrology Saturday, May 03, 2003 7:22 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand Hi TanvirThank u very much for ur explaination. I was nott aware Rahu and Ketu also have neechbhanga/Neechabnag Rajyogas. I thought its only for otherplanets.I did not give birth data here as on this forum there2 types of people. If I ask some quesion technical interms of astrology with my birth data I have gotreply that this is not forum for free reading. If uwant to learn u read archives.The other group of people who are really nice whoexplain in astrological terms like u. I wanted to avoid the part where people will feel thatI am expecting a reading. So I did not give birthdata. Otherwise I would definatley like if somebodygives explaination with respect to my chart.I am also student in astroloogy but still at beginnerlevel.14 Nov 19724.22 amPune IndiaThank ukpk Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 2, 2003 Report Share Posted May 2, 2003 Om Namah Shivaya Dear RK Baqaya Ji with all due respects i must say that you should not presume things. I just made a single statement, and you have made some 10 presumtions about my experience and my understanding. I have watched some 1000 horoscopes and am not a novice. regards partha Om Tat Sat vedic astrology, Rup Krishen Baqaya <rkbaqaya> wrote: > My Dear, who told you that people suffer in Raahu dasha alone.How many horoscopes you would have seen till now.When you will gain more experience you will find that people can and do suffer in any dasha,whether of Jupiter or venus or Sun etc.Professional astrologers have this tendency to create some kind of a fear complex amongst people about certain planets,so that they can force them into rituals and make money.I hope you would appreciate that it is easier for professional astrologers to blame a planet like raahu,which is known to be like a serpent and thus malefic as also known to cause grahana to luminaries.If you watch say about 100 horoscopes closely for a longish period,you will find that many peple benefit too in Raahu dasha.Please understand that suffering is also related to your present karma.Hope you got the point.Bye RK > > "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:Om Namah Shivaya > Dear RK > > > i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who suffer in > rahu dasa. > > regards > partha > > Om Tat Sat > > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D" <hubli@v...> > wrote: > > Hi RK, > > > > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs you've > mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which he co- > lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either Sg or > Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's > antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or 12H > is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the natural > zodiac). > > > > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and chapter > numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8 signs > you've mentioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting thread. > And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do; > information about the nodes isn't copious. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Ramapriya > > hubli@v... > > > > - > > Rup Krishen Baqaya > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand > > > > > > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of giving > sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i have > mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be seen.Let us > say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and the > native is also not running a period which can cause bad health,there > would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if > otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had explained > this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the 6th > house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about Raahu in > the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great men > had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so had > Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many others.It > of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For example, i > myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time Raahu > antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain incidents > happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You see > raahu in the signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius > and pisces is always capable of conferring good effects,according to > Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always bad.hope this > clarifies.Bye RK > > > Sponsor > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 3, 2003 Report Share Posted May 3, 2003 Sorry, I had no intention of hurting you.I thought u r a youngster.In my experience in astrology i have seen suffering in all kinds of dashas and not exclusively in the dasha of a particular planet only.So i thought u lack experience.Could be i was wrong.You state that i have made 10 presumptions.I thought i made only one presumption,that is the above.Other things i said were about professional astrologers.I do not even know whether you are a professional astrologer or not.To make my point clear that there can be suffering all kinds of dasha,i will give you my own small example.I have sun in leo in the ascendant.Before i learnt astrology,every so called great astrologer told me told me that this period of Sun is going to be the greatest in your life.It turned to be the worst and all other dashas which they had said would be bad turned out to be the best.I have since seen many many things like this.Anyway,no hard feelings,as far as i am concerned.I hope you succeed in ur pursuit of astrology.For me astrology is just one of the many hobbies i have.Bye RK"V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5 > wrote: Om Namah ShivayaDear RK Baqaya Jiwith all due respects i must say that you should not presume things. I just made a single statement, and you have made some 10 presumtions about my experience and my understanding. I have watched some 1000 horoscopes and am not a novice.regardsparthaOm Tat Sat--- In vedic astrology, Rup Krishen Baqaya <rkbaqaya> wrote:> My Dear, who told you that people suffer in Raahu dasha alone.How many horoscopes you would have seen till now.When you will gain more experience you will find that people can and do suffer in any dasha,whether of Jupiter or venus or Sun etc.Professional astrologers have this tendency to create some kind of a fear complex amongst people about certain planets,so that they can force them into rituals and make money.I hope you would appreciate that it is easier for professional astrologers to blame a planet like raahu,which is known to be like a serpent and thus malefic as also known to cause grahana to luminaries.If you watch say about 100 horoscopes closely for a longish period,you will find that many peple benefit too in Raahu dasha.Please understand that suffering is also related to your present karma.Hope you got the point.Bye RK> > "V.partha sarathy" <partvinu5> wrote:Om Namah Shivaya> Dear RK> > > i wonder if rahu is so beneficial, why there are many who suffer in > rahu dasa.> > regards> partha> > Om Tat Sat> > > > > vedic astrology, "Ramapriya D" <hubli@v...> > wrote:> > Hi RK,> > > > Informative stuff, and very interesting. Of the 8 signs you've > mentioned for Ra being beneficial, I'm surprised that Aq, which he co-> lords, is missing. Also, I would've thought that Ra in either Sg or > Pi is some kinda curse because they're lorded by Ju who's Ra's > antithesis. In fact, that's my guess for why Ra in either 9H or 12H > is considered so undesirable (Ju lords 9H and 12H of the natural > zodiac).> > > > Just for interest, can you quote the specific sloka and chapter > numbers of BPHS where Parasara talks of Ra beneficial in the 8 signs > you've mentioned? Thanks again for making this an interesting thread. > And if you've anything similar to say about Ke, please do; > information about the nodes isn't copious.> > > > Warm regards,> > > > Ramapriya> > hubli@v...> > > > - > > Rup Krishen Baqaya > > To: vedic astrology > > Thursday, May 01, 2003 8:45 AM> > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand> > > > > > Yes my dear Ram,the planet in the 8th has a chance of giving > sickness.That is why, you will notice that in all my posts i have > mentioned that the totality of the circumstances is to be seen.Let us > say that in a particular horoscope lord of lagna is strong and the > native is also not running a period which can cause bad health,there > would be no harm in wearing the gem of the planet in the 8th if > otherwise indicated.In fact in my letter to Shankar i had explained > this while mentioning about the gem of a planet placed in the 6th > house.One more point.In your post you have mentioned about Raahu in > the 10th being bad.Probably you don't know that many many great men > had Raahu in the 10th,Mahatma Gandhi had raahu in the 10th,so had > Subhash Bose,as also Atal Behaari Vajpayee,There are many others.It > of course depends on the sign in which it is placed.For example, i > myself have Raahu in the 10th in the sign Taurus.Every time Raahu > antara came in my life,it gave me a promotion or ce rtain incidents > happened which raised my career profile to great heights.You see > raahu in the signs,aeries,Taurus,cancer,leo,virgo,scorpio,sagittarius > and pisces is always capable of conferring good effects,according to > Parashara.And 10th house raahu is definitely not always bad.hope this > clarifies.Bye RK> > > Sponsor> > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > > > > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted May 5, 2003 Report Share Posted May 5, 2003 Hello Experts.. Is it true if 1. Rahu in saggi with Jup in saggi 2. Rahu in scorpio and Mars in scorpio In such cases , Neechbanga happens for Rahu? I am not sure about neechabanga for Rahu and ketu. I know about other planets neechbhanga. regards KPK --- Tanvir <tanvir wrote: > Dear KPK :-) > > 1. In your D-1, Rahu is in Sagi, but whom is it > with? Jupiter in own sign! That is why that is a > "neecha bhanga" (Cancelling of the debilitation.) > > 2. In your D-9, Rahu is in Scorpio, but whom is it > with? Mars in own sign! That is why, neecha bhanga > again! > > So there is no doubt that your Rahu will not give > result like a debilitated planet. Did you see that? > > There are a lot other rules of neecha bhanga. That > is why it is always better to submit the birth data > when you are talking about a chart. I doubt who is > the one who can tell a result of a planet correctly > only hearing which sign it is in :-) > > As I stated in earlier post, there can be hardly any > good effect from debilitated planet unless it is > neecha bhanga. And when there is neecha bhanga, you > can not expect debilitated results anymore! That is > what the name of the yoga says! :-) > > What you said, about good effects in Rahu periods. > That can be a neecha bhanga raja yoga also! It is > not possible without seeing your chart that is why I > was telling about the chart data. The fact is that, > you have already neecha bhanga that is enough not to > give you the maleficness as from a debilitated > planet. > > To me, the only benefit from a debilitated planet is > that when the planet is engaged in a very bad yoga. > So being very weak in debilitation, it can not give > much effect of the yoga. It happens in the case when > the yoga is very bad, even worse than a debilitated > planet's effect. That is why even having a > debilitated planet is better than having the effect > of that yoga :-) > > I do not know any other benefit from a debilitated > planet (otherwise neecha bhanga). Well there might > be some yoga for debilitated planets, but I am > talking about general rules. > > So if any member can enlighten me, I would be very > grateful :-) > > Regards, > Tanvir > > > "What can not happen, can never happen. > Which is mine, is forever mine." > > Tanvir Chowdhury > tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir > http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro > > > > - > KPK > vedic astrology > Friday, May 02, 2003 10:25 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Left hand > > > Hello RK > > I agree with u that it is not always true that > debilitated planets give bad results. > > > In my case Rahu in Saggi in 4th house(With Jup in > Own > house saggi) in D-1 and Rahu in Scorpio(With Mars > in > Scorpio own house) in D-9. My RAhu dasha was > really > rewarding during my education. And Just before end > of > Rahu Mahdasha, In Rahu Mangal I got employed and > started earning. > > Regards > KPK > The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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