Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 Dear Sajnu There is a difference between debating systems or methods and launching personal attacks . The reason why that post got me irritated was because the naasastrology list had already closed down . Kind regards Nicholas Oh fine..... good to see that someone is up to remind us about harsh speech instead of getting into the actual topic. But I can not really appreciate this truely..... because I saw a few days ago that in Gjlist someone named Ravindra posted a recommendation of a list......... and you replied with....... "I have not seen this Ravindra 42 before but be aware that the naasastrology is a bunch of nonsense........." So here you are telling against harsh speech...... but you yourself commited to talk with harsh speech only a few days ago...... how come you forgot that so soon? The matter is that there will always be coming new people to the list, and that very time you will see them for the first time!!!!!!!..... it is natural...... so there is nothing like "I never saw this Ravindra before"....... avoid being harsh like this...... be gentle to new member... leave ego being old member...... you were a new member sometime, too...... new people will come and you will see them for the first time...... you do not know all people of the world so day by day you will come to know more and more people...... so stop being harsh for no reason........ if there would be no new members coming...... then every list have only 1 member...... the founder itself...... do you smart guy understand it?????....... so dont disrespect new members..... try to be co-operative..... And recommending a list is not an offence...... he just liked the list perhaps for that reason he recommended..... you have a prob with that????...... If you dont like it, dont join it........ no one is forcing you to join...... no one is begging to you...... you are nothing such person like that....... your behavious says so........ but dont be after people for no reason....... thats no good........ and I am sure that Srimad Bhagvatam did not encourage this......... did it?...... sometimes you aware people about bad lists, sometimes you aware people of harsh speech...... especially when you often use harsh speech of your own! Again, no one wanted your advice on any list nor about talking style........ and dont advice people what you can not maintain yourself....... At first I did not even believe that you were that Nicholas who posted that in Gjlist...... because how come here you tell not to be harsh... where in other lists you keep being harsh to people????........ but later to make sure I checked the mail add....... and found that you are the same Nicholas....... anyway how can you advice not to be harsh when you are harsh with others? You so smart....... you think members of this list are not members of any other lists?........ change your own behaviour before you change others behaviours....... that would be better...... I bet....... -Sajnu ```` Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 It is okay to lose temper sometimes, but I think we should not go far for a small quote of anger. If we take this list to be a family, we can teach and learn through love and respect for each other. Good environment surely is needed for developing knowledge. The reason behind Sanjay focussed on you personally for he saw you losing temper on Ravindra in Gjlist unnecessarily. May be Ravindra did not know that the list is closed, would he then recommend it? I do not think so. As I have told that this is like a family, then new members should be treated like our new co borns. When we have a newborn in family, he or she needs care of us. Similarly, when a new member enters list, he is naturally little hesitant and shy, not totally free. It is our responsibility to co operate him to make him comfortable to take part in the discussion freely. Otherwise, being hesitant, one can not ask a question nor he can share something he knows. As Sanjay already told, there will be always new members coming and then you will see them for the first time. This list is not only yours, not only mine - it belongs all of us. We all are parts of this list - this is ours. A founder of the list can do nothing unless people join it. When a member enters, he also becomes a part of the list. Every member has the same right here as far as he is not violating laws or disturbing others. I do not see any strong offence in what Ravindra did. It would be nicer of you if you would gently tell him that the list is already closed. It takes us almost nothing to be polite. So there is nothing like I never saw you before, where did you come from..... When you lose temper on anyone and he takes it easy, then you should also remember that people might lose temper on you, and you should take that easy, too! It does not cost much to be tolerating. Anyway, a closed list is not equal to a bunch of rubbish I think. People still can learn manythings from the posts exchanged in the list. Regards,Deepak vedic astrology, "Nicholas" <jyotish108@h...> wrote:> Dear Sajnu> There is a difference between debating systems or methods and launching> personal attacks .> The reason why that post got me irritated was because the naasastrology> list had already closed down .> Kind regards> Nicholas> > > > Oh fine..... good to see that someone is up to remind> us about harsh speech instead of getting into the> actual topic.> > But I can not really appreciate this truely.....> because I saw a few days ago that in Gjlist someone> named Ravindra posted a recommendation of a> list......... and you replied with.......> > "I have not seen this Ravindra 42 before but be aware> that the naasastrology is a bunch of> nonsense........."> > So here you are telling against harsh speech...... but> you yourself commited to talk with harsh speech only a> few days ago...... how come you forgot that so soon?> > The matter is that there will always be coming new> people to the list, and that very time you will see> them for the first time!!!!!!!..... it is> natural...... so there is nothing like "I never saw> this Ravindra before"....... avoid being harsh like> this...... be gentle to new member... leave ego being> old member...... you were a new member sometime,> too...... new people will come and you will see them> for the first time...... you do not know all people of> the world so day by day you will come to know more and> more people...... so stop being harsh for no> reason........> > if there would be no new members coming...... then> every list have only 1 member...... the founder> itself...... do you smart guy understand> it?????....... so dont disrespect new members..... try> to be co-operative.....> > And recommending a list is not an offence...... he> just liked the list perhaps for that reason he> recommended..... you have a prob with that????......> If you dont like it, dont join it........ no one is> forcing you to join...... no one is begging to> you...... you are nothing such person like that.......> your behavious says so........ but dont be after> people for no reason....... thats no good........ and> I am sure that Srimad Bhagvatam did not encourage> this......... did it?......> > sometimes you aware people about bad lists, sometimes> you aware people of harsh speech...... especially when> you often use harsh speech of your own!> > Again, no one wanted your advice on any list nor about> talking style........ and dont advice people what you> can not maintain yourself.......> > At first I did not even believe that you were that> Nicholas who posted that in Gjlist...... because how> come here you tell not to be harsh... where in other> lists you keep being harsh to people????........ but> later to make sure I checked the mail add....... and> found that you are the same Nicholas....... anyway how> can you advice not to be harsh when you are harsh with> others? You so smart....... you think members of this> list are not members of any other lists?........> change your own behaviour before you change others> behaviours....... that would be better...... I> bet.......> > -Sajnu ```` The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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