Guest guest Posted April 24, 2003 Report Share Posted April 24, 2003 Dear Learned Gauranga, I am sorry, I have been away and hence the delay in responsding to your fascinating analysis. It has really helped although, I have few simple queries more. 1. I was wondering if one needs to see the strength of the moon if one thinks about sadesati. In your case there is Kemudruma Yoga being broken by aspects of other planets, but in Nav moon is debilitated, so in total does moon become weak. Saturn passing over such a moon make things more hard for you. 2. Does this deb moon in D-9 help you in spirituality. 3. Saturn is in Sabhaavastha, can you pls expand on this avastha and how does it relate to popularity. 4. You are lucky to have darshan of Lord Krishna, very lucky. 5. Saturn being retro and debilitated , doesn't it make it behave like exaltation in a way. I just get confused since the point of retro always confuses me since there have been so many posts. 6. When Saturn is in the 12th from natal moon, u mentioned about spirituality, would it give boost or would it be bad for your spiritual growth. 7. For Saturn why were you wearing Ruby ring, isn't Ruby for Sun. 8. Also, I was wondering why you didn't use SAV points and BAV points to demonstrate sadesati and its effects. 9. Why did Lord Krishna give darshan (appearance) to you in Sadesati, does it have any significance in terms of timing. Can, I write personally to you to discuss your chart, if you are comfortable with this. Warm regards, Sushmita vedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> wrote: > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Sushmita, > > Namaste. > > We can take my example. I have attached my chart. > > I have Moon in Gemini, so my Sade-sati began in 2000. Before of course > Saturn was transitting his natal position, which is also many times a > difficult period, giving a lot of changes in the native's life. So from 2000 > it may give some difficulties in career, although because natal Saturn is in > Sabhaavastha, it may give some popularity or more people get to know me. > Because Saturn considerably afflicts the area of dharma (he is debilitated > and retrograde in the 9th house) and marriage (6th and 7th lord), I started > wearing a ruby ring in Dec 2002. Also in May 2000 , a few months before the > Sadesati set in, Bhagavan Sri Krishna came to me in the form of Shaligram > silas, and now I worship daily several of Them. I think these things help to > ease up the effect of Sade-sati, still i feel it, especially during the > retrogrades of Saturn. Those who know me for some years will understand what > I mean. Now in April this year Saturn entered Gemini, so now he gives more > pressure on the mind, and in the 3rd phase he will also infleunce > spirituality as he is transitting my 12th house. This will begin in Sept > 2004 and end in November 2006. But then my Saturm mahadasa begins in Jan > 2006, so for another 19 years he is there. What can we do? We can just learn > to tolerate, and pray to Krishna to save us from the turmoil. At least Sani > makes us always remember that we can never be comfortable and safe in the > material world, and should not expect undisturbed material happiness and > freedom from miseries at any time. Krishna says: duhkhaalayam asaasvatam, > this material world is full of misery and temporary, therefore we should > always fix uor mind on the Supreme Lord: Om tad vishnoh paramam padam sadaa > pashyanti surayah ... > > Yours, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > gauranga@b... > Jyotish Remedies: > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > - > "sushmita34" <sushmita34> > <vedic astrology> > Friday, April 11, 2003 9:05 AM > [vedic astrology] re: Sadesati > > > > Dear Learned Gauranga, > > > > Extremely wonderful explanation. I am quite sure many on this list > > would benefit from your reply. > > > > I really understood the lesson with the example of Lasagne, hope you > > are feeling better now ) > > > > I think it would be better if we take any chart of your wish, which > > is going through Sadesati as it would be more helpful in knwoing the > > extent of the problem firsthand. I have written to Rageshwari who I > > presume is going through Sadesati. If she is not, then anyone on this > > list can venture his chart out for discussion provided someone who > > has recently gone through sadesati and remembers the events/nature of > > suffering. > > I did try to call up a few friends who are going through sadesati but > > their TOB wasn't reliable. > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Sushmita. > > > > > > vedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> > > wrote: > > > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > > > Dear Sushmita, > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > Sushmita: Which sign should we look at, the Moon sign ? or all > > the 3 > > > > signs. > > > > > > I guess all 3 signs should be checked, and thus you will get > > specific > > > tendencies during Saturn's transit in the 3 signs. Of course the > > most > > > determinant is the nature of the Moon's sign. > > > > > > > > > > > Sushmita: Thanks for this reply, but then does it mean that in > > its 30 > > > > yr cycle it would be giving bad results in most of the places, > > taking > > > > into consideration transit effects, sadesati, 8th and 4th Saturn, > > and > > > > then AL, GL, and on other thoughts how much savings can the dasha > > > > periods do when evil transits of Saturn are operating. > > > > > > Yes, some way or other, usually Saturn gives sorrow. Honestly, did > > you have > > > any day in your life when you were absolutely free from suffeing? > > No. Maybe > > > you just didn't notice it. Or the happiness was much greater than > > the sorrow > > > for that one day. But this is the nature of the material world, as > > Krishna > > > says. sukha-duhkha follow each other endlessly. For example > > yesterday > > > evening I ate a lot of Lasagne, which was very tasty (offered to > > Krishna) > > > but I ate too much, so I was feeling uncomfortable after it, and it > > was > > > difficult to res and wase up early in the morning. So in this way > > for every > > > enjoyment, you must accept some suffering as well. Therefore Saturn > > always > > > reminds us not to take too much effort to be happy here in the > > material > > > world, rather give up our attachments and surrender to Krishna. > > > > > > > > > > > Sushmita : Gaurangaji, it would be real nice if you could have the > > > > above mentioned mantras on your website, if I could type sanskrit > > I > > > > would be of help but alas my lack of that skill and schedules > > don't > > > > permit me, I hope many kind people from this list would come > > forward > > > > for this noble task. > > > > > > Yes, Vishnu Sahasranaama is already downloadable, but for Sri > > suktam I need > > > some more help. > > > > > > I give one version here, but the Sanskrit is far from perfection. > > > > > > > > > SRI SUKTAM > > > > > > Om Hiranya Varnam Harineem > > > Survanam Rajatas Rajam > > > Chandraam Hiranmayim > > > LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha > > > > > > Sloka 1 > > > O all-knowing fire-god (Agni), would you kindly propitiate > > Mahalakshmi, the > > > Goddess of prosperity, one whose body has the golden color; one who > > is > > > decked with gold and silver garlands; one whose sari is yellow > > colored and > > > one Whose face is like the full moon and whose eyes bless humanity > > with > > > soothing grace. O Jata Veda, the fire-god, kindly tell Her of our > > > supplications. > > > > > > > > > Taamma Aavaha Jaatavedo > > > LakshmeEm Ananpagammineem > > > Yasyaam Hiranmyam Vindeyam > > > Gaam-Asvam Purusham-Aham > > > > > > Sloka 2 > > > O, Agni, the great fire-god, with the blessings of Mahalakshmi, > > wealth and > > > prosperity, gold and cattle, horses and useful animals, family and > > children > > > and every type of prosperity will come to me. By the arrival of > > Goddess > > > Lakshmi in my home, the prosperity will be imperishable. Health, > > friends, > > > knowledge, everlasting peace and finally freedom -- all these types > > of > > > wealth will be mine by the arrival of the Universal Mother, > > Lakshmi, into my > > > home. > > > > > > > > > Aswa-Poorvaam Ratha-MadhyaAm > > > Hastinaada Prabhodineem > > > Sriyam Deveem-Upahvahe > > > Sreemaa Devirjushataam > > > > > > Sloka 3 > > > That Goddess Lakshmi in whose procession the celestial horses and > > the divine > > > chariots are used, as the elephants roar the OM sound which pleases > > that > > > Goddess. She being Gajalakshmi or Lakshmi Who is worshiped by the > > elephants. > > > O Agni, I am invoking that power, the spouse of Vishnu. May I > > attain Her > > > grace. > > > > > > > > > Kaamsosmkitaam Hiranya PraakaaraamAardraam > > > Jvalenteem Truptaam Tarpayantim > > > Padmastitaam PadmavarnaAm > > > Taamihopahvaye Sriyam > > > > > > Sloka 4 > > > One Who is sitting on the blossomed thousand-petalled lotus; one > > whose body > > > has the color of the lotus; may that great Goddess. The > > compassionate, > > > radiant, ever-smiling, fulfiller of all the desires of Her > > votaries, hear my > > > prayers. I invoke that Mother, Mahalakshmi of golden color. > > > > > > > > > Candraamprabhassaam Yasasaajvalantim > > > Sriyamloke Devajustamudharam > > > Tam Padmineemim Saranamaham > > > Prapadye Alakshmeerye > > > Nasyatam twaam vrine > > > > > > Sloka 5 > > > I invoke Mahalakshmi Who shines like the full moon and like > > lightening. Her > > > fame is all-pervading. Denizens of heaven constantly worship Her. > > She is > > > minificent. Her benevolent hands are like lotuses. I take refuge in > > Her > > > lotus feet. Let Her destroy my poverty forever. O Mother > > Mahalakshmi, I take > > > shelter at Your lotus feet. > > > > > > > > > Aadityavarne TapasodhijaatoO > > > Vanaspatistava Vrikshothabilvaha > > > Tasya Phalaani Tapassaanudantu > > > Maayaantaraayaastcha Baahyaa Alakshmehim > > > > > > Sloka 6 > > > O Universal Mother, shining like the sun, it is through Your > > penance that > > > the holiest trees of Bilva and Tulasi are born. They symbolize the > > tree of > > > life. The fruit of that tree of life removes our poverty from both > > within > > > and without. In other words, bless us with inner light and outer > > > independence and abundance. > > > > > > > > > Upaitumaam Devasakhaha > > > Keertishtcha Maninaa Saham > > > Praddour-booto smit rastresmin > > > Keerthimrudhim dadaatume > > > > > > Sloka 7 > > > O Devi, the great Goddess, with Your blessings let Kubera, the > > treasurer of > > > the gods; his friend, Manibhadra, the protector of wealth, and > > Keerti, the > > > goddess of fame who was the daughter of Daksha Prajapati. > > > > > > > > > Ksutipaasaamalaam JyesthaAm > > > Alakshreem naasayaamyaham > > > Abhootimasamriddhim cha > > > Sarvadh Nirmuda me grihaat > > > > > > Sloka 8 > > > That goddess of hunger and thirst, one who is reduced to a > > skeleton; I would > > > like the death of the goddess of poverty. O Mahalakshmi, may You > > kindly > > > drive away any fear of poverty and inauspiciousness from my home. > > In other > > > words, bless me always with abundance and joy. > > > > > > > > > Gandhadvaraam duradharshaam > > > Nitya Pushtaam Karishineem > > > Eesvareehim sarvabhoottaanaam > > > Taamihopahvaye Sriyam > > > > > > Sloka 9 > > > I invoke that supreme Goddess Lakshmi to dwell in my home forever. > > She is > > > the supreme power of protection and Goddess of all the universes > > and cosmic > > > elements. She is Mother Earth, the bestower of great contentment. > > Her > > > blessings are bringing us the fragrance of the sandalwood paste. > > May that > > > Ishwari be ever present in me. > > > > > > > > > Manashaha-Kaamamaakootim > > > Vaachasatya masheemahi > > > Pashoonam Roopamanasya > > > Mayi Sreesrayataam Yasaha > > > > > > Sloka 10 > > > May Mahalakshmi fulfill all my desires. May I attain perfection. > > May my > > > words come true. May I be bestowed with cattle, wealth, food, milk > > and honey > > > to share with all. May that Sri Devi come to my home in the form of > > undying > > > fame. > > > > > > > > > Kardhamena Prajaabhuttaa Mayi > > > Sambhava Kardhamam > > > Sriyam Vaasayame KuleE > > > Maataram Padma maalineem > > > > > > Sloka 11 > > > We are the progeny of our forefather, Sage Kardama, who is one of > > the sons > > > of Goddess Lakshmi. We invoke that Sage Kardama to install in his > > family the > > > Universal Mother, Mahalakshmi, who is decked with the garland of > > lotuses. So > > > be it. > > > > > > > > > Apahasrujantu Snigdhaani Chikleeta > > > Vasa Me Gruhe > > > Nicha deveem MaatarahamM Sriyam > > > Vaasaya Me Kule > > > > > > Sloka 12 > > > We invoke another son of Lakshmi named Chikleeta. May he dwell in > > our home > > > and may his mother, Mahalakshmi, dwell in our family. > > > > > > > > > Ardraam Pushkarineem Pushtim > > > Pingalaam Padmamalineem > > > Chandramm Hirnamayeem LakshmeEm > > > Jaatavedo Mamaavaha > > > > > > Sloka 13 > > > O Agni, may You propitiate Mahalakshmi, the destroyer of demons but > > merciful > > > to Her devotees, abode of auspiciousness, bestower of total > > protection, > > > extraordinarily beautiful, bedecked with valuable ornaments, > > shining like a > > > thousand suns; may that Hiranmayi, the golden colored Goddess, be > > pleased > > > with us. > > > > > > > > > Ardraam Yah-Karineem yastiIm > > > Survarnaam Hemamaalineem > > > Sooruyamm Hirnamayeem LakshmeEm > > > Jaatavedo Mamaavaha > > > > > > Sloka 14 > > > O Agni, the fire-god, I once again pray unto you to invoke the > > presence of > > > the Lakshmi Devi with us. The Mother Who is merciful blessings with > > Her > > > lotus hand. May that yellow-clad, lotus-garlanded, moon-faced > > Goddess shower > > > Her choicest cup of blessings upon us. > > > > > > > > > Taama Aavaah JaatavedoO > > > Lakshmmeemanapa-gamineem > > > Yasyam Hiranyam Prabhootam Gaavo > > > Daasyoshvam Vindeyam Purushanaham > > > > > > Sloka 15 > > > O Agni, please pray to that Lakshmi that we should be blessed with > > > inexhaustible wealth. May that wealth bring that greatest joy and > > peace > > > along with all material comforts of cows, servants, horses, family > > and good > > > children, and the highest of all, freedom. > > > > > > > > > Om Mahalakshmyai cha Vidmahe Vishnu > > > Patnyaicha Dhimahi > > > Taano LakshmihiprachodayaAta > > > Om Shanti Shanti Shantihi > > > > > > Sloka 16 > > > Let that Mahalakshmi be invoked on Whom I meditate upon, Who is the > > consort > > > of Lord Vishnu, the Supreme Mother. Let peace prevail everywhere. > > > > > > > > > > Another query comes to my mind here, what if a westerner is going > > > > through the sadesati, she/he would not be able to recite the > > mantras, > > > > how can we help such a native. I mean for vedic astrology to grow > > > > into a global science spreading across continents, can we have > > some > > > > form of effective remedies which anyone can do irrespective of > > > > caste , creed and background. > > > > > > Well, I'm not really in favor of westernizing things. If we > > practice Vedic > > > astrology, we are supposed to accept Vedic philosophy, culture and > > > religiousness, so we can advice worship according to Vedic > > standards. Of > > > course this requires proper understanding and guidance from a Guru. > > If we > > > want to advise worship of Devatas based on the chart, then we can > > do it > > > according to the native's culture, i.e. christianity etc. however > > this would > > > require a deeper knowledge of that religious tradition. > > > > > > > > > > Sushmita: Sir, does it also mean that one needs to look at all > > > > Divisional charts, I presume one would be then running Sadesati in > > > > say D-10, although she/he might not be running sadesati in D- 1. > > > > Furthering on this thought process, I presume one would be running > > > > sadesati in several areas of one's life at any point of time. > > > > I also do understand that other considerations that you have > > > > mentioned are to be taken into account. I would like to ask a > > favor > > > > here, can you expand on how exactly to interpret the diff > > Avasthas to > > > > sadesati, Vedhas and all the other imp points that you have > > mentioned > > > > in this article of yours with any example chart, it really would > > help > > > > beginners like me to learn the science systematically and learning > > > > how to see several points all at the same time. Theory with > > example > > > > really helps the theory to seep in the mind. > > > > > > Primary rule is to consider Sade-sathi in Rasi. D-charts are always > > > subordinate to Rashi. So a Saturn'transit over the Moon in a D- > > chart alone > > > will not give such a stroneg effect. As for the rest of the > > factors, yes, > > > I'm willing to take up an example chart analysis. Please give your > > chart or > > > a chart of your choice. > > > > > > > Thanks for your post and also in advance for your article. > > > > Many thanks to others who have contributed and whom I have not > > named > > > > here. > > > > > > Yours, > > > > > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > > gauranga@b... > > > Jyotish Remedies: > > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > ---- > > PrimPosta e-mail egy eletre! > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Sushmita, Namaste. > Dear Learned Gauranga, > > I am sorry, I have been away and hence the delay in responsding to > your fascinating analysis. > > It has really helped although, I have few simple queries more. > > 1. I was wondering if one needs to see the strength of the moon if > one thinks about sadesati. In your case there is Kemudruma Yoga being > broken by aspects of other planets, but in Nav moon is debilitated, > so in total does moon become weak. Saturn passing over such a moon > make things more hard for you. Definitely. The only relieving factor is that Moon is in increasing phase, coming close to Purnima, and forms Brahma yoga with the Sun. So it is only knowledge and sadhana (budhaditya yoga in 5th) that is there to control my mind. > 2. Does this deb moon in D-9 help you in spirituality. No, it does not. Debilitated planets are bed to have in Navamsha. Some time Sanjayji said the best remedy for this Moon-Sun yoga in Scorpio was chanting Hare Krishna, which i've been trying to do since 13 years now. I'm sure it helps and it would be much worse without it. > 3. Saturn is in Sabhaavastha, can you pls expand on this avastha and > how does it relate to popularity. Sabha means comgregation or meeting. Saturn in this avastha makes the native known in front of many people. Of course considering that Saturn is the activator of bad karma and he is retro ad deb. in the 9th house, not necessarily everyone will have a good opinion of me. > 4. You are lucky to have darshan of Lord Krishna, very lucky. You can also have if you go to the temple and worship His arca-vigraha. If you chant His name, then when your heart is purified, you will also see Him dansing on your tongue while chanting Hare Krishna. > 5. Saturn being retro and debilitated , doesn't it make it behave > like exaltation in a way. I just get confused since the point of > retro always confuses me since there have been so many posts. Yes, in a way this is neechabhanga, also ex. Saturn in Navamsa causes neechabhanga, which means that seemingly I may get into problems, but in actuality I will be saved by Bhagavan. (I hope os at least) Of ocurse the presence of Rahu with Sat in navamsha still makes materialistic tendencies strong, so it requires much effort. > 6. When Saturn is in the 12th from natal moon, u mentioned about > spirituality, would it give boost or would it be bad for your > spiritual growth. In this case good. But Sani already stepped into Gemini, so another chapter comes. > 7. For Saturn why were you wearing Ruby ring, isn't Ruby for Sun. Yes, but Sun is lagna lord, is in trines and is natural karaka of 9th house. Therefore the adharmic influence of Saturn over the 9th house can be checked with the help of the Sun. > 8. Also, I was wondering why you didn't use SAV points and BAV points > to demonstrate sadesati and its effects. SAV in Taurus, Gemini and Leo is quite low. This makes Sadesati hit stronger. Also Saturn's BAV is low, gives the same result. > 9. Why did Lord Krishna give darshan (appearance) to you in Sadesati, > does it have any significance in terms of timing. This is quite complicated to explain. You see Mercury in the 12th from my Karakamsha indicates my Ishta devata (Sri Caitanya Mahaprabhu), and it is aspected by Saturn and Rahu. Both are lords of 9th from Karakamsha, indicating dharma devata. So Saturn's transit through Taurus activated the grace of the Dharma devata. The first Salagram I received from my Guru Maharaja was Dhanvantari, who brought the nectar of immortality to the devas. He was indirectly the cause of Rahu's killing by Mohini Murti. All this is there in this combination of Mercury-Rahu-Sani in Venusian signs. So Dhanvantari brings me the healing nectar of Krishna's holy name, and helps slay the ingorance and material attachment (see Rahu in 7th in Rasi). All that is there, but it is not easy to explain. > Can, I write personally to you to discuss your chart, if you are > comfortable with this. Yes, why not. We can discuss other charts or your chart also if time permits. It is always difficult to see one's own chart. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > Warm regards, > > > Sushmita > > > vedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> > wrote: > > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > Dear Sushmita, > > > > Namaste. > > > > We can take my example. I have attached my chart. > > > > I have Moon in Gemini, so my Sade-sati began in 2000. Before of > course > > Saturn was transitting his natal position, which is also many times > a > > difficult period, giving a lot of changes in the native's life. So > from 2000 > > it may give some difficulties in career, although because natal > Saturn is in > > Sabhaavastha, it may give some popularity or more people get to > know me. > > Because Saturn considerably afflicts the area of dharma (he is > debilitated > > and retrograde in the 9th house) and marriage (6th and 7th lord), I > started > > wearing a ruby ring in Dec 2002. Also in May 2000 , a few months > before the > > Sadesati set in, Bhagavan Sri Krishna came to me in the form of > Shaligram > > silas, and now I worship daily several of Them. I think these > things help to > > ease up the effect of Sade-sati, still i feel it, especially during > the > > retrogrades of Saturn. Those who know me for some years will > understand what > > I mean. Now in April this year Saturn entered Gemini, so now he > gives more > > pressure on the mind, and in the 3rd phase he will also infleunce > > spirituality as he is transitting my 12th house. This will begin in > Sept > > 2004 and end in November 2006. But then my Saturm mahadasa begins > in Jan > > 2006, so for another 19 years he is there. What can we do? We can > just learn > > to tolerate, and pray to Krishna to save us from the turmoil. At > least Sani > > makes us always remember that we can never be comfortable and safe > in the > > material world, and should not expect undisturbed material > happiness and > > freedom from miseries at any time. Krishna says: duhkhaalayam > asaasvatam, > > this material world is full of misery and temporary, therefore we > should > > always fix uor mind on the Supreme Lord: Om tad vishnoh paramam > padam sadaa > > pashyanti surayah ... > > > > Yours, > > > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > gauranga@b... > > Jyotish Remedies: > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > > - > > "sushmita34" <sushmita34> > > <vedic astrology> > > Friday, April 11, 2003 9:05 AM > > [vedic astrology] re: Sadesati > > > > > > > Dear Learned Gauranga, > > > > > > Extremely wonderful explanation. I am quite sure many on this list > > > would benefit from your reply. > > > > > > I really understood the lesson with the example of Lasagne, hope > you > > > are feeling better now ) > > > > > > I think it would be better if we take any chart of your wish, > which > > > is going through Sadesati as it would be more helpful in knwoing > the > > > extent of the problem firsthand. I have written to Rageshwari who > I > > > presume is going through Sadesati. If she is not, then anyone on > this > > > list can venture his chart out for discussion provided someone who > > > has recently gone through sadesati and remembers the > events/nature of > > > suffering. > > > I did try to call up a few friends who are going through sadesati > but > > > their TOB wasn't reliable. > > > > > > > > > Warm regards, > > > > > > Sushmita. > > > > > > > > > vedic astrology, Gauranga Das > <gauranga@b...> > > > wrote: > > > > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > > > > > Dear Sushmita, > > > > > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sushmita: Which sign should we look at, the Moon sign ? or all > > > the 3 > > > > > signs. > > > > > > > > I guess all 3 signs should be checked, and thus you will get > > > specific > > > > tendencies during Saturn's transit in the 3 signs. Of course the > > > most > > > > determinant is the nature of the Moon's sign. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sushmita: Thanks for this reply, but then does it mean that in > > > its 30 > > > > > yr cycle it would be giving bad results in most of the places, > > > taking > > > > > into consideration transit effects, sadesati, 8th and 4th > Saturn, > > > and > > > > > then AL, GL, and on other thoughts how much savings can the > dasha > > > > > periods do when evil transits of Saturn are operating. > > > > > > > > Yes, some way or other, usually Saturn gives sorrow. Honestly, > did > > > you have > > > > any day in your life when you were absolutely free from > suffeing? > > > No. Maybe > > > > you just didn't notice it. Or the happiness was much greater > than > > > the sorrow > > > > for that one day. But this is the nature of the material world, > as > > > Krishna > > > > says. sukha-duhkha follow each other endlessly. For example > > > yesterday > > > > evening I ate a lot of Lasagne, which was very tasty (offered to > > > Krishna) > > > > but I ate too much, so I was feeling uncomfortable after it, > and it > > > was > > > > difficult to res and wase up early in the morning. So in this > way > > > for every > > > > enjoyment, you must accept some suffering as well. Therefore > Saturn > > > always > > > > reminds us not to take too much effort to be happy here in the > > > material > > > > world, rather give up our attachments and surrender to Krishna. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sushmita : Gaurangaji, it would be real nice if you could > have the > > > > > above mentioned mantras on your website, if I could type > sanskrit > > > I > > > > > would be of help but alas my lack of that skill and schedules > > > don't > > > > > permit me, I hope many kind people from this list would come > > > forward > > > > > for this noble task. > > > > > > > > Yes, Vishnu Sahasranaama is already downloadable, but for Sri > > > suktam I need > > > > some more help. > > > > > > > > I give one version here, but the Sanskrit is far from > perfection. > > > > > > > > > > > > SRI SUKTAM > > > > > > > > Om Hiranya Varnam Harineem > > > > Survanam Rajatas Rajam > > > > Chandraam Hiranmayim > > > > LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha > > > > > > > > Sloka 1 > > > > O all-knowing fire-god (Agni), would you kindly propitiate > > > Mahalakshmi, the > > > > Goddess of prosperity, one whose body has the golden color; one > who > > > is > > > > decked with gold and silver garlands; one whose sari is yellow > > > colored and > > > > one Whose face is like the full moon and whose eyes bless > humanity > > > with > > > > soothing grace. O Jata Veda, the fire-god, kindly tell Her of > our > > > > supplications. > > > > > > > > > > > > Taamma Aavaha Jaatavedo > > > > LakshmeEm Ananpagammineem > > > > Yasyaam Hiranmyam Vindeyam > > > > Gaam-Asvam Purusham-Aham > > > > > > > > Sloka 2 > > > > O, Agni, the great fire-god, with the blessings of Mahalakshmi, > > > wealth and > > > > prosperity, gold and cattle, horses and useful animals, family > and > > > children > > > > and every type of prosperity will come to me. By the arrival of > > > Goddess > > > > Lakshmi in my home, the prosperity will be imperishable. Health, > > > friends, > > > > knowledge, everlasting peace and finally freedom -- all these > types > > > of > > > > wealth will be mine by the arrival of the Universal Mother, > > > Lakshmi, into my > > > > home. > > > > > > > > > > > > Aswa-Poorvaam Ratha-MadhyaAm > > > > Hastinaada Prabhodineem > > > > Sriyam Deveem-Upahvahe > > > > Sreemaa Devirjushataam > > > > > > > > Sloka 3 > > > > That Goddess Lakshmi in whose procession the celestial horses > and > > > the divine > > > > chariots are used, as the elephants roar the OM sound which > pleases > > > that > > > > Goddess. She being Gajalakshmi or Lakshmi Who is worshiped by > the > > > elephants. > > > > O Agni, I am invoking that power, the spouse of Vishnu. May I > > > attain Her > > > > grace. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kaamsosmkitaam Hiranya PraakaaraamAardraam > > > > Jvalenteem Truptaam Tarpayantim > > > > Padmastitaam PadmavarnaAm > > > > Taamihopahvaye Sriyam > > > > > > > > Sloka 4 > > > > One Who is sitting on the blossomed thousand-petalled lotus; one > > > whose body > > > > has the color of the lotus; may that great Goddess. The > > > compassionate, > > > > radiant, ever-smiling, fulfiller of all the desires of Her > > > votaries, hear my > > > > prayers. I invoke that Mother, Mahalakshmi of golden color. > > > > > > > > > > > > Candraamprabhassaam Yasasaajvalantim > > > > Sriyamloke Devajustamudharam > > > > Tam Padmineemim Saranamaham > > > > Prapadye Alakshmeerye > > > > Nasyatam twaam vrine > > > > > > > > Sloka 5 > > > > I invoke Mahalakshmi Who shines like the full moon and like > > > lightening. Her > > > > fame is all-pervading. Denizens of heaven constantly worship > Her. > > > She is > > > > minificent. Her benevolent hands are like lotuses. I take > refuge in > > > Her > > > > lotus feet. Let Her destroy my poverty forever. O Mother > > > Mahalakshmi, I take > > > > shelter at Your lotus feet. > > > > > > > > > > > > Aadityavarne TapasodhijaatoO > > > > Vanaspatistava Vrikshothabilvaha > > > > Tasya Phalaani Tapassaanudantu > > > > Maayaantaraayaastcha Baahyaa Alakshmehim > > > > > > > > Sloka 6 > > > > O Universal Mother, shining like the sun, it is through Your > > > penance that > > > > the holiest trees of Bilva and Tulasi are born. They symbolize > the > > > tree of > > > > life. The fruit of that tree of life removes our poverty from > both > > > within > > > > and without. In other words, bless us with inner light and outer > > > > independence and abundance. > > > > > > > > > > > > Upaitumaam Devasakhaha > > > > Keertishtcha Maninaa Saham > > > > Praddour-booto smit rastresmin > > > > Keerthimrudhim dadaatume > > > > > > > > Sloka 7 > > > > O Devi, the great Goddess, with Your blessings let Kubera, the > > > treasurer of > > > > the gods; his friend, Manibhadra, the protector of wealth, and > > > Keerti, the > > > > goddess of fame who was the daughter of Daksha Prajapati. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ksutipaasaamalaam JyesthaAm > > > > Alakshreem naasayaamyaham > > > > Abhootimasamriddhim cha > > > > Sarvadh Nirmuda me grihaat > > > > > > > > Sloka 8 > > > > That goddess of hunger and thirst, one who is reduced to a > > > skeleton; I would > > > > like the death of the goddess of poverty. O Mahalakshmi, may You > > > kindly > > > > drive away any fear of poverty and inauspiciousness from my > home. > > > In other > > > > words, bless me always with abundance and joy. > > > > > > > > > > > > Gandhadvaraam duradharshaam > > > > Nitya Pushtaam Karishineem > > > > Eesvareehim sarvabhoottaanaam > > > > Taamihopahvaye Sriyam > > > > > > > > Sloka 9 > > > > I invoke that supreme Goddess Lakshmi to dwell in my home > forever. > > > She is > > > > the supreme power of protection and Goddess of all the universes > > > and cosmic > > > > elements. She is Mother Earth, the bestower of great > contentment. > > > Her > > > > blessings are bringing us the fragrance of the sandalwood paste. > > > May that > > > > Ishwari be ever present in me. > > > > > > > > > > > > Manashaha-Kaamamaakootim > > > > Vaachasatya masheemahi > > > > Pashoonam Roopamanasya > > > > Mayi Sreesrayataam Yasaha > > > > > > > > Sloka 10 > > > > May Mahalakshmi fulfill all my desires. May I attain perfection. > > > May my > > > > words come true. May I be bestowed with cattle, wealth, food, > milk > > > and honey > > > > to share with all. May that Sri Devi come to my home in the > form of > > > undying > > > > fame. > > > > > > > > > > > > Kardhamena Prajaabhuttaa Mayi > > > > Sambhava Kardhamam > > > > Sriyam Vaasayame KuleE > > > > Maataram Padma maalineem > > > > > > > > Sloka 11 > > > > We are the progeny of our forefather, Sage Kardama, who is one > of > > > the sons > > > > of Goddess Lakshmi. We invoke that Sage Kardama to install in > his > > > family the > > > > Universal Mother, Mahalakshmi, who is decked with the garland of > > > lotuses. So > > > > be it. > > > > > > > > > > > > Apahasrujantu Snigdhaani Chikleeta > > > > Vasa Me Gruhe > > > > Nicha deveem MaatarahamM Sriyam > > > > Vaasaya Me Kule > > > > > > > > Sloka 12 > > > > We invoke another son of Lakshmi named Chikleeta. May he dwell > in > > > our home > > > > and may his mother, Mahalakshmi, dwell in our family. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ardraam Pushkarineem Pushtim > > > > Pingalaam Padmamalineem > > > > Chandramm Hirnamayeem LakshmeEm > > > > Jaatavedo Mamaavaha > > > > > > > > Sloka 13 > > > > O Agni, may You propitiate Mahalakshmi, the destroyer of demons > but > > > merciful > > > > to Her devotees, abode of auspiciousness, bestower of total > > > protection, > > > > extraordinarily beautiful, bedecked with valuable ornaments, > > > shining like a > > > > thousand suns; may that Hiranmayi, the golden colored Goddess, > be > > > pleased > > > > with us. > > > > > > > > > > > > Ardraam Yah-Karineem yastiIm > > > > Survarnaam Hemamaalineem > > > > Sooruyamm Hirnamayeem LakshmeEm > > > > Jaatavedo Mamaavaha > > > > > > > > Sloka 14 > > > > O Agni, the fire-god, I once again pray unto you to invoke the > > > presence of > > > > the Lakshmi Devi with us. The Mother Who is merciful blessings > with > > > Her > > > > lotus hand. May that yellow-clad, lotus-garlanded, moon-faced > > > Goddess shower > > > > Her choicest cup of blessings upon us. > > > > > > > > > > > > Taama Aavaah JaatavedoO > > > > Lakshmmeemanapa-gamineem > > > > Yasyam Hiranyam Prabhootam Gaavo > > > > Daasyoshvam Vindeyam Purushanaham > > > > > > > > Sloka 15 > > > > O Agni, please pray to that Lakshmi that we should be blessed > with > > > > inexhaustible wealth. May that wealth bring that greatest joy > and > > > peace > > > > along with all material comforts of cows, servants, horses, > family > > > and good > > > > children, and the highest of all, freedom. > > > > > > > > > > > > Om Mahalakshmyai cha Vidmahe Vishnu > > > > Patnyaicha Dhimahi > > > > Taano LakshmihiprachodayaAta > > > > Om Shanti Shanti Shantihi > > > > > > > > Sloka 16 > > > > Let that Mahalakshmi be invoked on Whom I meditate upon, Who is > the > > > consort > > > > of Lord Vishnu, the Supreme Mother. Let peace prevail > everywhere. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Another query comes to my mind here, what if a westerner is > going > > > > > through the sadesati, she/he would not be able to recite the > > > mantras, > > > > > how can we help such a native. I mean for vedic astrology to > grow > > > > > into a global science spreading across continents, can we have > > > some > > > > > form of effective remedies which anyone can do irrespective of > > > > > caste , creed and background. > > > > > > > > Well, I'm not really in favor of westernizing things. If we > > > practice Vedic > > > > astrology, we are supposed to accept Vedic philosophy, culture > and > > > > religiousness, so we can advice worship according to Vedic > > > standards. Of > > > > course this requires proper understanding and guidance from a > Guru. > > > If we > > > > want to advise worship of Devatas based on the chart, then we > can > > > do it > > > > according to the native's culture, i.e. christianity etc. > however > > > this would > > > > require a deeper knowledge of that religious tradition. > > > > > > > > > > > > > Sushmita: Sir, does it also mean that one needs to look at all > > > > > Divisional charts, I presume one would be then running > Sadesati in > > > > > say D-10, although she/he might not be running sadesati in D- > 1. > > > > > Furthering on this thought process, I presume one would be > running > > > > > sadesati in several areas of one's life at any point of time. > > > > > I also do understand that other considerations that you have > > > > > mentioned are to be taken into account. I would like to ask a > > > favor > > > > > here, can you expand on how exactly to interpret the diff > > > Avasthas to > > > > > sadesati, Vedhas and all the other imp points that you have > > > mentioned > > > > > in this article of yours with any example chart, it really > would > > > help > > > > > beginners like me to learn the science systematically and > learning > > > > > how to see several points all at the same time. Theory with > > > example > > > > > really helps the theory to seep in the mind. > > > > > > > > Primary rule is to consider Sade-sathi in Rasi. D-charts are > always > > > > subordinate to Rashi. So a Saturn'transit over the Moon in a D- > > > chart alone > > > > will not give such a stroneg effect. As for the rest of the > > > factors, yes, > > > > I'm willing to take up an example chart analysis. 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