Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 dear sir, thanks for your previous replies. i was just surfing the messages of this forum and came to the topics of BLACK MAGIC - ABHICHARA. the thread numbers are around 13800. when i went through all the meesages i saw a posting from mr. ramadas rao in message number 13800 in which he has writeen different situation of planets in which a person can be affected by abhichara. when i compared my chart to all this points i found that 2 of the situations are there in my chart. from the points given by ramadas rao i also confirmed that there were many disputes between my family and my uncles family for property matters. infact i have been told by many pandits also that someone have performed black magic on me from my uncles side and i have tried to make a remedy also. but those pandits also told me that though my bhadakesh is shani is in 6th - it is protecting me because it is also forming a neech bhang raj yog as it is lord of 12th too. frankly speaking i personally use to feel maytimes from 1996 - 1999 that during a certain period i feel some extra forcefull power takes controls over my mind and i become very angry and destructive. does this black magic really exists ? i mean if some tries or wants to hurt someone through some poojas or mantra or whatever - does it effects anyone ? for ur reference my details are = 20 november 1978 - 2.51 pm - bombay. awaiting ur valuable views. mr.doshi Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 Hare Rama Krishna ------------------------ Dear Mr. Doshi, Your Lagna is Pisces, and hence the Badhakesh becomes the 7th lord Mercury. Badhakesh for Movable signs is the 11th lord, whilst Badhakesh for fixed signs is the 9th lord. Among the combinations for black magic, Badhakesh in the 6th house is among them, but this isn't so in your case. Another is Ketu in Lagna, recieving Graha dristi from Mars. This again is not applicable unless your Lagna is Aquarius instead of Pisces. However Badhakesh Mercury is joined Mars and Sun in the 9th house, showing problems due to forgetting the worship of a deity. This inturn causes problems with paternal relatives (9th house) and this involves enmity regarding propperty (mercury is 4th lord and Sun is 6th lord), and the use of bad mantras (afflicted Mercury), to serve this objective. Mercury is Atmakaraka, and shows that you become your own obstacle at times, and the way out is the worship of the Istha Devata - Narayana. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - doshiastro1978 vedic astrology Wednesday, April 23, 2003 3:37 AM [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara dear sir,thanks for your previous replies. i was just surfing the messages of this forum and came to the topics of BLACK MAGIC - ABHICHARA. the thread numbers are around 13800. when i went through all the meesages i saw a posting from mr. ramadas rao in message number 13800 in which he has writeen different situation of planets in which a person can be affected by abhichara. when i compared my chart to all this points i found that 2 of the situations are there in my chart. from the points given by ramadas rao i also confirmed that there were many disputes between my family and my uncles family for property matters. infact i have been told by many pandits also that someone have performed black magic on me from my uncles side and i have tried to make a remedy also. but those pandits also told me that though my bhadakesh is shani is in 6th - it is protecting me because it is also forming a neech bhang raj yog as it is lord of 12th too.frankly speaking i personally use to feel maytimes from 1996 - 1999 that during a certain period i feel some extra forcefull power takes controls over my mind and i become very angry and destructive. does this black magic really exists ? i mean if some tries or wants to hurt someone through some poojas or mantra or whatever - does it effects anyone ? for ur reference my details are = 20 november 1978 - 2.51 pm - bombay.awaiting ur valuable views.mr.doshiArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Your use of is subject to the Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 - "doshiastro1978" <matchwelpharma <vedic astrology> Wednesday, April 23, 2003 3:37 AM [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara > dear sir, > thanks for your previous replies. i was just surfing the messages of > this forum and came to the topics of BLACK MAGIC - ABHICHARA. the > thread numbers are around 13800. when i went through all the meesages > i saw a posting from mr. ramadas rao in message number 13800 in which > he has writeen different situation of planets in which a person can > be affected by abhichara. > > when i compared my chart to all this points i found that 2 of the > situations are there in my chart. from the points given by ramadas > rao i also confirmed that there were many disputes between my family > and my uncles family for property matters. > > infact i have been told by many pandits also that someone have > performed black magic on me from my uncles side and i have tried to > make a remedy also. but those pandits also told me that though my > bhadakesh is shani is in 6th - it is protecting me because it is also > forming a neech bhang raj yog as it is lord of 12th too. > > frankly speaking i personally use to feel maytimes from 1996 - 1999 > that during a certain period i feel some extra forcefull power takes > controls over my mind and i become very angry and destructive. > > does this black magic really exists ? i mean if some tries or wants > to hurt someone through some poojas or mantra or whatever - does it > effects anyone ? > > for ur reference my details are = > 20 november 1978 - 2.51 pm - bombay. > > awaiting ur valuable views. > mr.doshi > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > ---- > Legyen on is virusmentes! > http://ad.adverticum.net/b/cl,1,4008,20109,25526/click.prm > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Mr, Doshi, Namaste. The only places I have come across, which speak of black magic, is Jaimini sutram on Karakamsha. If there is three or more malefics in trines from Karakamsha, the native practices Tantra or black magic. Maharishi Parashara gives a chapter on curses from previous life, which is very instructive. However he specdifically deals with curses of childlessness, which come from a previous lifetime. These principles may be extended to other life areas as well, but how to see curses in the present life, I haven't seen any direct references. Prasna Marga gives some details, but this I will study in more detail from September onwards. But if I come across anything I will publish it anyway. Of course Badhakesha may give some hints, although it indicates obstacles or inimical people in general. If the enemies try to attack you through black magic, then Rahu should be involved I think in the combinations connected with the 6th and A6. If these cobinations involve the badhakesha, then you will be actually put into difficulty by the curse. For timing my idea would be to use Lagna or Atmakaraka kendradi dasas. I don't have much experience with them, but you can try. Or Kalacakra dasa may also give some hint. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:34 AM Re: [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara Hare Rama Krishna ------------------------ Dear Mr. Doshi, Your Lagna is Pisces, and hence the Badhakesh becomes the 7th lord Mercury. Badhakesh for Movable signs is the 11th lord, whilst Badhakesh for fixed signs is the 9th lord. Among the combinations for black magic, Badhakesh in the 6th house is among them, but this isn't so in your case. Another is Ketu in Lagna, recieving Graha dristi from Mars. This again is not applicable unless your Lagna is Aquarius instead of Pisces. However Badhakesh Mercury is joined Mars and Sun in the 9th house, showing problems due to forgetting the worship of a deity. This inturn causes problems with paternal relatives (9th house) and this involves enmity regarding propperty (mercury is 4th lord and Sun is 6th lord), and the use of bad mantras (afflicted Mercury), to serve this objective. Mercury is Atmakaraka, and shows that you become your own obstacle at times, and the way out is the worship of the Istha Devata - Narayana. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - doshiastro1978 vedic astrology Wednesday, April 23, 2003 3:37 AM [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara dear sir,thanks for your previous replies. i was just surfing the messages of this forum and came to the topics of BLACK MAGIC - ABHICHARA. the thread numbers are around 13800. when i went through all the meesages i saw a posting from mr. ramadas rao in message number 13800 in which he has writeen different situation of planets in which a person can be affected by abhichara. when i compared my chart to all this points i found that 2 of the situations are there in my chart. from the points given by ramadas rao i also confirmed that there were many disputes between my family and my uncles family for property matters. infact i have been told by many pandits also that someone have performed black magic on me from my uncles side and i have tried to make a remedy also. but those pandits also told me that though my bhadakesh is shani is in 6th - it is protecting me because it is also forming a neech bhang raj yog as it is lord of 12th too.frankly speaking i personally use to feel maytimes from 1996 - 1999 that during a certain period i feel some extra forcefull power takes controls over my mind and i become very angry and destructive. does this black magic really exists ? i mean if some tries or wants to hurt someone through some poojas or mantra or whatever - does it effects anyone ? for ur reference my details are = 20 november 1978 - 2.51 pm - bombay.awaiting ur valuable views.mr.doshiArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 23, 2003 Report Share Posted April 23, 2003 OM KLEEM KRSHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Mr.Doshi, According to Prashna Margam ,the following Shloka gives Shatru Badha or black magic Lakshana: BAADHESHASYAARIBHE VA RIPUBHAVANAPATHERBAADHAKARKSHE YADISYA DYOGO VA DARSHANAM VA PUNARATHA YADI VA TATAU MITHAKSHETRASAMSTHAU, BAADHAADHEESHARINAATHAAVAPI YADI SAHITAU PASHYATONYONYATO VA SHASTROSTATRAABHICHARAM VADATU BAHUTAYAA LAKSHANAANAM SA BHUYAAN. The meaning is like this : 1) From Arudha Lagna,the placement of badhakadhipaty in 6th house, 2 ) 6th lord from Arudha Lagna placed in Badhakastana, 3) conjunction of both badhakadhipaty and Shashtadhipaty (6th lord 0, 4) The mutual aspect of Badhakadhipaty and 6th lord, 5) Badhakadhipaty aspecting 6th house, 6 ) 6th lord aspecting Badhakastana, 7 ) 6th lord in Badhakastana. Now another classic called Santana Deepika tells about Black Magic in the following way : CHARE VILAGNE RIPUNATHA DRISHTE KUJE CHA LABHE STHIRABHE CHA DHARME, DWANDESTARASHAU PRAVADENNARANAM ROGAM RIPUNAAM KRITAMAABHICHARAI. Meaning ; 1) Arudha Lagna in chara or moveable Rasi,6th lord aspecting Arudha Lagna,Kuja in 11th house. 2 ) Arudha Lagna in fixed or sthira Rasi,6th lord aspecting Arudha Lagna,Kuja in 9th house. 3 ) Arudha Lagna in Ubhaya Rasi or dwiswabhava Rasi,6th lord aspecting this Arudha Lagna,Kuja in 7th house. All these lead to Abhichara ,resulting in diseases. HORANAATHAYUTE BHAUME LAGNAKENDRAGATETHAWA, RIPUNATHE VILAGNASTHE CHAABHICHAARA UDEERYATAAM. Meaning : Kuja with Arudha Lagna lord or Kuja in kendra to Lagna and 6th lord in Lagna and this is also one Lakshana for Abhichara. SHATRUSTAANDHIPE LAGNE KARMANYSTANGATHEATHAVA, LAGNE BHAUMAYUTE DRISHTE CHAABHICHAARA UDEERYATAAM. meaning : 6th lord from Arudha Lagna in Lagna or 7th or 10th and Kuja in Lagna or aspecting Lagna is also another type of Abhichara. SUKHABHAVAGATE KETAU KARMALAGNAGATE ATHAVA, LAGNE BHAUMAYUTE DRISHTE CHAABHICHAARA UDEERYATAAM. Meaning : Ketu in Arudha Lagna/Lagna,4th or 10th and Lagna belongs to Kuja or aspects Lagna is also Shatrukrita Abhichara. SUKHABHAVAGATE KETAU KARMALAGNAGATE ATHAVA, KENDRE MANDI SAMAAYUKTE ROGAH KSHUDRABHICHARAJAH Meaning : Ketu in 1-4-10 and Mandi also in Lagnat Kendra,then the disease is due to Abhichara. So by considering all the above principles ,in your AL ,Kuja,6th lord Surya and Badhakadhipaty Budha are there indicating Abhichara.Also Ketu is in 4th from AL.Now Badhakadhipaty Budha is in Vrischika Rasi which is a fixed sign and therefore it may be difficult to remove the Abhichara ,but still you can try by the following method. Now adding 6th lord's longitude and Lagna lord's longitude,I get Kumbha 19 deg.47'36.8"Here Ketu is there aspected by Shani.Now as Guru aspects Badhakadhipaty,the Abhichara can be removed by performing Pratikara Mantra havan followed by Pratikara bali. According to me to perform this havan,you may have to come to Dakshina District of Karnataka or Kerala from where you get Purohits who can perform such kind of Havans. I hope this helps. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Gauranga Das <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> wrote: JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Mr, Doshi, Namaste. The only places I have come across, which speak of black magic, is Jaimini sutram on Karakamsha. If there is three or more malefics in trines from Karakamsha, the native practices Tantra or black magic. Maharishi Parashara gives a chapter on curses from previous life, which is very instructive. However he specdifically deals with curses of childlessness, which come from a previous lifetime. These principles may be extended to other life areas as well, but how to see curses in the present life, I haven't seen any direct references. Prasna Marga gives some details, but this I will study in more detail from September onwards. But if I come across anything I will publish it anyway. Of course Badhakesha may give some hints, although it indicates obstacles or inimical people in general. If the enemies try to attack you through black magic, then Rahu should be involved I think in the combinations connected with the 6th and A6. If these cobinations involve the badhakesha, then you will be actually put into difficulty by the curse. For timing my idea would be to use Lagna or Atmakaraka kendradi dasas. I don't have much experience with them, but you can try. Or Kalacakra dasa may also give some hint. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:34 AM Re: [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara Hare Rama Krishna ------------------------ Dear Mr. Doshi, Your Lagna is Pisces, and hence the Badhakesh becomes the 7th lord Mercury. Badhakesh for Movable signs is the 11th lord, whilst Badhakesh for fixed signs is the 9th lord. Among the combinations for black magic, Badhakesh in the 6th house is among them, but this isn't so in your case. Another is Ketu in Lagna, recieving Graha dristi from Mars. This again is not applicable unless your Lagna is Aquarius instead of Pisces. However Badhakesh Mercury is joined Mars and Sun in the 9th house, showing problems due to forgetting the worship of a deity. This inturn causes problems with paternal relatives (9th house) and this involves enmity regarding propperty (mercury is 4th lord and Sun is 6th lord), and the use of bad mantras (afflicted Mercury), to serve this objective. Mercury is Atmakaraka, and shows that you become your own obstacle at times, and the way out is the worship of the Istha Devata - Narayana. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - doshiastro1978 vedic astrology Wednesday, April 23, 2003 3:37 AM [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara dear sir,thanks for your previous replies. i was just surfing the messages of this forum and came to the topics of BLACK MAGIC - ABHICHARA. the thread numbers are around 13800. when i went through all the meesages i saw a posting from mr. ramadas rao in message number 13800 in which he has writeen different situation of planets in which a person can be affected by abhichara. when i compared my chart to all this points i found that 2 of the situations are there in my chart. from the points given by ramadas rao i also confirmed that there were many disputes between my family and my uncles family for property matters. infact i have been told by many pandits also that someone have performed black magic on me from my uncles side and i have tried to make a remedy also. but those pandits also told me that though my bhadakesh is shani is in 6th - it is protecting me because it is also forming a neech bhang raj yog as it is lord of 12th too.frankly speaking i personally use to feel maytimes from 1996 - 1999 that during a certain period i feel some extra forcefull power takes controls over my mind and i become very angry and destructive. does this black magic really exists ? i mean if some tries or wants to hurt someone through some poojas or mantra or whatever - does it effects anyone ? for ur reference my details are = 20 november 1978 - 2.51 pm - bombay.awaiting ur valuable views.mr.doshiArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ 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Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 Dear Mr. Doshi, Please see Parasara (BPHS), shlokas 75 and 76 of the Karakamsa chapter. He clearly says that if there are 2 malefics placed in trines from Karakamsa, the perosn will have knowledge of mantra and tantra. (Manavau mantra-tantragyno jayate natra samshaya). If these planets are aspected by a malefic, he will deploy his knowledge of mantra shastra for evil purposes and if aspected by a benefic, then he will this knowledge for shubha or good purposes. Regards, Sarbani vedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> wrote: > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Mr, Doshi, > > Namaste. > > The only places I have come across, which speak of black magic, is Jaimini sutram on Karakamsha. If there is three or more malefics in trines from Karakamsha, the native practices Tantra or black magic. Maharishi Parashara gives a chapter on curses from previous life, which is very instructive. However he specdifically deals with curses of childlessness, which come from a previous lifetime. These principles may be extended to other life areas as well, but how to see curses in the present life, I haven't seen any direct references. Prasna Marga gives some details, but this I will study in more detail from September onwards. But if I come across anything I will publish it anyway. Of course Badhakesha may give some hints, although it indicates obstacles or inimical people in general. If the enemies try to attack you through black magic, then Rahu should be involved I think in the combinations connected with the 6th and A6. If these cobinations involve the badhakesha, then you will be actually put into difficulty by the curse. For timing my idea would be to use Lagna or Atmakaraka kendradi dasas. I don't have much experience with them, but you can try. Or Kalacakra dasa may also give some hint. > > Yours, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > gauranga@b... > Jyotish Remedies: > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > - > Visti Larsen > vedic astrology > Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:34 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara > > > Hare Rama Krishna > ------------------------ > Dear Mr. Doshi, > Your Lagna is Pisces, and hence the Badhakesh becomes the 7th lord Mercury. Badhakesh for Movable signs is the 11th lord, whilst Badhakesh for fixed signs is the 9th lord. > > Among the combinations for black magic, Badhakesh in the 6th house is among them, but this isn't so in your case. > > Another is Ketu in Lagna, recieving Graha dristi from Mars. This again is not applicable unless your Lagna is Aquarius instead of Pisces. > > However Badhakesh Mercury is joined Mars and Sun in the 9th house, showing problems due to forgetting the worship of a deity. This inturn causes problems with paternal relatives (9th house) and this involves enmity regarding propperty (mercury is 4th lord and Sun is 6th lord), and the use of bad mantras (afflicted Mercury), to serve this objective. > > Mercury is Atmakaraka, and shows that you become your own obstacle at times, and the way out is the worship of the Istha Devata - Narayana. > > Best wishes > Visti > --- > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org > iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org > - > doshiastro1978 > vedic astrology > Wednesday, April 23, 2003 3:37 AM > [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara > > > dear sir, > thanks for your previous replies. i was just surfing the messages of > this forum and came to the topics of BLACK MAGIC - ABHICHARA. the > thread numbers are around 13800. when i went through all the meesages > i saw a posting from mr. ramadas rao in message number 13800 in which > he has writeen different situation of planets in which a person can > be affected by abhichara. > > when i compared my chart to all this points i found that 2 of the > situations are there in my chart. from the points given by ramadas > rao i also confirmed that there were many disputes between my family > and my uncles family for property matters. > > infact i have been told by many pandits also that someone have > performed black magic on me from my uncles side and i have tried to > make a remedy also. but those pandits also told me that though my > bhadakesh is shani is in 6th - it is protecting me because it is also > forming a neech bhang raj yog as it is lord of 12th too. > > frankly speaking i personally use to feel maytimes from 1996 - 1999 > that during a certain period i feel some extra forcefull power takes > controls over my mind and i become very angry and destructive. > > does this black magic really exists ? i mean if some tries or wants > to hurt someone through some poojas or mantra or whatever - does it > effects anyone ? > > for ur reference my details are = > 20 november 1978 - 2.51 pm - bombay. > > awaiting ur valuable views. > mr.doshi > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > Terms of Service. > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Ramadas, Namaste. Very interesting quotes indeed. Could you provide the chanter and verse number for Prashna Marga? Also could you give me details about the other book (Santana Deepika), who is the author and where is it available. I would like to get a hard copy or an electronic version if possible, which includes the Sanskrit original and translation if available. Thank you for sharing this information. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - Ramadas Rao vedic astrology Wednesday, April 23, 2003 10:07 PM Re: [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara OM KLEEM KRSHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Mr.Doshi, According to Prashna Margam ,the following Shloka gives Shatru Badha or black magic Lakshana: BAADHESHASYAARIBHE VA RIPUBHAVANAPATHERBAADHAKARKSHE YADISYA DYOGO VA DARSHANAM VA PUNARATHA YADI VA TATAU MITHAKSHETRASAMSTHAU, BAADHAADHEESHARINAATHAAVAPI YADI SAHITAU PASHYATONYONYATO VA SHASTROSTATRAABHICHARAM VADATU BAHUTAYAA LAKSHANAANAM SA BHUYAAN. The meaning is like this : 1) From Arudha Lagna,the placement of badhakadhipaty in 6th house, 2 ) 6th lord from Arudha Lagna placed in Badhakastana, 3) conjunction of both badhakadhipaty and Shashtadhipaty (6th lord 0, 4) The mutual aspect of Badhakadhipaty and 6th lord, 5) Badhakadhipaty aspecting 6th house, 6 ) 6th lord aspecting Badhakastana, 7 ) 6th lord in Badhakastana. Now another classic called Santana Deepika tells about Black Magic in the following way : CHARE VILAGNE RIPUNATHA DRISHTE KUJE CHA LABHE STHIRABHE CHA DHARME, DWANDESTARASHAU PRAVADENNARANAM ROGAM RIPUNAAM KRITAMAABHICHARAI. Meaning ; 1) Arudha Lagna in chara or moveable Rasi,6th lord aspecting Arudha Lagna,Kuja in 11th house. 2 ) Arudha Lagna in fixed or sthira Rasi,6th lord aspecting Arudha Lagna,Kuja in 9th house. 3 ) Arudha Lagna in Ubhaya Rasi or dwiswabhava Rasi,6th lord aspecting this Arudha Lagna,Kuja in 7th house. All these lead to Abhichara ,resulting in diseases. HORANAATHAYUTE BHAUME LAGNAKENDRAGATETHAWA, RIPUNATHE VILAGNASTHE CHAABHICHAARA UDEERYATAAM. Meaning : Kuja with Arudha Lagna lord or Kuja in kendra to Lagna and 6th lord in Lagna and this is also one Lakshana for Abhichara. SHATRUSTAANDHIPE LAGNE KARMANYSTANGATHEATHAVA, LAGNE BHAUMAYUTE DRISHTE CHAABHICHAARA UDEERYATAAM. meaning : 6th lord from Arudha Lagna in Lagna or 7th or 10th and Kuja in Lagna or aspecting Lagna is also another type of Abhichara. SUKHABHAVAGATE KETAU KARMALAGNAGATE ATHAVA, LAGNE BHAUMAYUTE DRISHTE CHAABHICHAARA UDEERYATAAM. Meaning : Ketu in Arudha Lagna/Lagna,4th or 10th and Lagna belongs to Kuja or aspects Lagna is also Shatrukrita Abhichara. SUKHABHAVAGATE KETAU KARMALAGNAGATE ATHAVA, KENDRE MANDI SAMAAYUKTE ROGAH KSHUDRABHICHARAJAH Meaning : Ketu in 1-4-10 and Mandi also in Lagnat Kendra,then the disease is due to Abhichara. So by considering all the above principles ,in your AL ,Kuja,6th lord Surya and Badhakadhipaty Budha are there indicating Abhichara.Also Ketu is in 4th from AL.Now Badhakadhipaty Budha is in Vrischika Rasi which is a fixed sign and therefore it may be difficult to remove the Abhichara ,but still you can try by the following method. Now adding 6th lord's longitude and Lagna lord's longitude,I get Kumbha 19 deg.47'36.8"Here Ketu is there aspected by Shani.Now as Guru aspects Badhakadhipaty,the Abhichara can be removed by performing Pratikara Mantra havan followed by Pratikara bali. According to me to perform this havan,you may have to come to Dakshina District of Karnataka or Kerala from where you get Purohits who can perform such kind of Havans. I hope this helps. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Gauranga Das <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> wrote: JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Mr, Doshi, Namaste. The only places I have come across, which speak of black magic, is Jaimini sutram on Karakamsha. If there is three or more malefics in trines from Karakamsha, the native practices Tantra or black magic. Maharishi Parashara gives a chapter on curses from previous life, which is very instructive. However he specdifically deals with curses of childlessness, which come from a previous lifetime. These principles may be extended to other life areas as well, but how to see curses in the present life, I haven't seen any direct references. Prasna Marga gives some details, but this I will study in more detail from September onwards. But if I come across anything I will publish it anyway. Of course Badhakesha may give some hints, although it indicates obstacles or inimical people in general. If the enemies try to attack you through black magic, then Rahu should be involved I think in the combinations connected with the 6th and A6. If these cobinations involve the badhakesha, then y ou will be actually put into difficulty by the curse. For timing my idea would be to use Lagna or Atmakaraka kendradi dasas. I don't have much experience with them, but you can try. Or Kalacakra dasa may also give some hint. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:34 AM Re: [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara Hare Rama Krishna ------------------------ Dear Mr. Doshi, Your Lagna is Pisces, and hence the Badhakesh becomes the 7th lord Mercury. Badhakesh for Movable signs is the 11th lord, whilst Badhakesh for fixed signs is the 9th lord. Among the combinations for black magic, Badhakesh in the 6th house is among them, but this isn't so in your case. Another is Ketu in Lagna, recieving Graha dristi from Mars. This again is not applicable unless your Lagna is Aquarius instead of Pisces. However Badhakesh Mercury is joined Mars and Sun in the 9th house, showing problems due to forgetting the worship of a deity. This inturn causes problems with paternal relatives (9th house) and this involves enmity regarding propperty (mercury is 4th lord and Sun is 6th lord), and the use of bad mantras (afflicted Mercury), to serve this objective. Mercury is Atmakaraka, and shows that you become your own obstacle at times, and the way out is the worship of the Istha Devata - Narayana. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - doshiastro1978 vedic astrology Wednesday, April 23, 2003 3:37 AM [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara dear sir,thanks for your previous replies. i was just surfing the messages of this forum and came to the topics of BLACK MAGIC - ABHICHARA. the thread numbers are around 13800. when i went through all the meesages i saw a posting from mr. ramadas rao in message number 13800 in which he has writeen different situation of planets in which a person can be affected by abhichara. when i compared my chart to all this points i found that 2 of the situations are there in my chart. from the points given by ramadas rao i also confirmed that there were many disputes between my family and my uncles family for property matters. infact i have been told by many pandits also that someone have performed black magic on me from my uncles side and i have tried to make a remedy also. but those pandits also told me that though my bhadakesh is shani is in 6th - it is protecting me because it is also forming a nee ch bhang raj yog as it is lord of 12th too.frankly speaking i personally use to feel maytimes from 1996 - 1999 that during a certain period i feel some extra forcefull power takes controls over my mind and i become very angry and destructive. does this black magic really exists ? i mean if some tries or wants to hurt someone through some poojas or mantra or whatever - does it effects anyone ? for ur reference my details are = 20 november 1978 - 2.51 pm - bombay.awaiting ur valuable views.mr.doshiArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ 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Guest guest Posted April 25, 2003 Report Share Posted April 25, 2003 OM KLEEM KRSHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Gaurang ji, Thank you for the mail.The quotes from Prashna Margam about the Abhichara or black magic is from shlokas 138 to 193 and in the same book ,the Author has given has quoted the Shlokas from Santana Deepika shloka nos.163,164 and 165.In the message which I wrote ,I have not provided all the shlokas as it will increase the space of the message.These shlokas are from chapter 15 of Prashna Margam and is tranlated by Sri Kabyadi Srinivasa Acharya of Udipi and the translation is in Kannada Language. But I dont know all these shlokas are there in Dr.B.V.Raman's Prashna Margam.But if you are interested I can reproduce all the shlokas from 138 to 193. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Gauranga Das <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> wrote: JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Ramadas, Namaste. Very interesting quotes indeed. Could you provide the chanter and verse number for Prashna Marga? Also could you give me details about the other book (Santana Deepika), who is the author and where is it available. I would like to get a hard copy or an electronic version if possible, which includes the Sanskrit original and translation if available. Thank you for sharing this information. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - Ramadas Rao vedic astrology Wednesday, April 23, 2003 10:07 PM Re: [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara OM KLEEM KRSHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Mr.Doshi, According to Prashna Margam ,the following Shloka gives Shatru Badha or black magic Lakshana: BAADHESHASYAARIBHE VA RIPUBHAVANAPATHERBAADHAKARKSHE YADISYA DYOGO VA DARSHANAM VA PUNARATHA YADI VA TATAU MITHAKSHETRASAMSTHAU, BAADHAADHEESHARINAATHAAVAPI YADI SAHITAU PASHYATONYONYATO VA SHASTROSTATRAABHICHARAM VADATU BAHUTAYAA LAKSHANAANAM SA BHUYAAN. The meaning is like this : 1) From Arudha Lagna,the placement of badhakadhipaty in 6th house, 2 ) 6th lord from Arudha Lagna placed in Badhakastana, 3) conjunction of both badhakadhipaty and Shashtadhipaty (6th lord 0, 4) The mutual aspect of Badhakadhipaty and 6th lord, 5) Badhakadhipaty aspecting 6th house, 6 ) 6th lord aspecting Badhakastana, 7 ) 6th lord in Badhakastana. Now another classic called Santana Deepika tells about Black Magic in the following way : CHARE VILAGNE RIPUNATHA DRISHTE KUJE CHA LABHE STHIRABHE CHA DHARME, DWANDESTARASHAU PRAVADENNARANAM ROGAM RIPUNAAM KRITAMAABHICHARAI. Meaning ; 1) Arudha Lagna in chara or moveable Rasi,6th lord aspecting Arudha Lagna,Kuja in 11th house. 2 ) Arudha Lagna in fixed or sthira Rasi,6th lord aspecting Arudha Lagna,Kuja in 9th house. 3 ) Arudha Lagna in Ubhaya Rasi or dwiswabhava Rasi,6th lord aspecting this Arudha Lagna,Kuja in 7th house. All these lead to Abhichara ,resulting in diseases. HORANAATHAYUTE BHAUME LAGNAKENDRAGATETHAWA, RIPUNATHE VILAGNASTHE CHAABHICHAARA UDEERYATAAM. Meaning : Kuja with Arudha Lagna lord or Kuja in kendra to Lagna and 6th lord in Lagna and this is also one Lakshana for Abhichara. SHATRUSTAANDHIPE LAGNE KARMANYSTANGATHEATHAVA, LAGNE BHAUMAYUTE DRISHTE CHAABHICHAARA UDEERYATAAM. meaning : 6th lord from Arudha Lagna in Lagna or 7th or 10th and Kuja in Lagna or aspecting Lagna is also another type of Abhichara. SUKHABHAVAGATE KETAU KARMALAGNAGATE ATHAVA, LAGNE BHAUMAYUTE DRISHTE CHAABHICHAARA UDEERYATAAM. Meaning : Ketu in Arudha Lagna/Lagna,4th or 10th and Lagna belongs to Kuja or aspects Lagna is also Shatrukrita Abhichara. SUKHABHAVAGATE KETAU KARMALAGNAGATE ATHAVA, KENDRE MANDI SAMAAYUKTE ROGAH KSHUDRABHICHARAJAH Meaning : Ketu in 1-4-10 and Mandi also in Lagnat Kendra,then the disease is due to Abhichara. So by considering all the above principles ,in your AL ,Kuja,6th lord Surya and Badhakadhipaty Budha are there indicating Abhichara.Also Ketu is in 4th from AL.Now Badhakadhipaty Budha is in Vrischika Rasi which is a fixed sign and therefore it may be difficult to remove the Abhichara ,but still you can try by the following method. Now adding 6th lord's longitude and Lagna lord's longitude,I get Kumbha 19 deg.47'36.8"Here Ketu is there aspected by Shani.Now as Guru aspects Badhakadhipaty,the Abhichara can be removed by performing Pratikara Mantra havan followed by Pratikara bali. According to me to perform this havan,you may have to come to Dakshina District of Karnataka or Kerala from where you get Purohits who can perform such kind of Havans. I hope this helps. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Gauranga Das <gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net> wrote: JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Mr, Doshi, Namaste. The only places I have come across, which speak of black magic, is Jaimini sutram on Karakamsha. If there is three or more malefics in trines from Karakamsha, the native practices Tantra or black magic. Maharishi Parashara gives a chapter on curses from previous life, which is very instructive. However he specdifically deals with curses of childlessness, which come from a previous lifetime. These principles may be extended to other life areas as well, but how to see curses in the present life, I haven't seen any direct references. Prasna Marga gives some details, but this I will study in more detail from September onwards. But if I come across anything I will publish it anyway. Of course Badhakesha may give some hints, although it indicates obstacles or inimical people in general. If the enemies try to attack you through black magic, then Rahu should be involved I think in the combinations connected with the 6th and A6. If these cobinations involve the badhakesha, then y ou will be actually put into difficulty by the curse. For timing my idea would be to use Lagna or Atmakaraka kendradi dasas. I don't have much experience with them, but you can try. Or Kalacakra dasa may also give some hint. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - Visti Larsen vedic astrology Wednesday, April 23, 2003 11:34 AM Re: [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara Hare Rama Krishna ------------------------ Dear Mr. Doshi, Your Lagna is Pisces, and hence the Badhakesh becomes the 7th lord Mercury. Badhakesh for Movable signs is the 11th lord, whilst Badhakesh for fixed signs is the 9th lord. Among the combinations for black magic, Badhakesh in the 6th house is among them, but this isn't so in your case. Another is Ketu in Lagna, recieving Graha dristi from Mars. This again is not applicable unless your Lagna is Aquarius instead of Pisces. However Badhakesh Mercury is joined Mars and Sun in the 9th house, showing problems due to forgetting the worship of a deity. This inturn causes problems with paternal relatives (9th house) and this involves enmity regarding propperty (mercury is 4th lord and Sun is 6th lord), and the use of bad mantras (afflicted Mercury), to serve this objective. Mercury is Atmakaraka, and shows that you become your own obstacle at times, and the way out is the worship of the Istha Devata - Narayana. Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org - doshiastro1978 vedic astrology Wednesday, April 23, 2003 3:37 AM [vedic astrology] gaurang dasji - black magic / abhichara dear sir,thanks for your previous replies. i was just surfing the messages of this forum and came to the topics of BLACK MAGIC - ABHICHARA. the thread numbers are around 13800. when i went through all the meesages i saw a posting from mr. ramadas rao in message number 13800 in which he has writeen different situation of planets in which a person can be affected by abhichara. when i compared my chart to all this points i found that 2 of the situations are there in my chart. from the points given by ramadas rao i also confirmed that there were many disputes between my family and my uncles family for property matters. infact i have been told by many pandits also that someone have performed black magic on me from my uncles side and i have tried to make a remedy also. but those pandits also told me that though my bhadakesh is shani is in 6th - it is protecting me because it is also forming a nee ch bhang raj yog as it is lord of 12th too.frankly speaking i personally use to feel maytimes from 1996 - 1999 that during a certain period i feel some extra forcefull power takes controls over my mind and i become very angry and destructive. does this black magic really exists ? i mean if some tries or wants to hurt someone through some poojas or mantra or whatever - does it effects anyone ? for ur reference my details are = 20 november 1978 - 2.51 pm - bombay.awaiting ur valuable views.mr.doshiArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ 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