Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 >>> My grandson had Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with that I had when I was born Dear chandra shekhar ji, What is the mark of trishula indicates? Is there any spiritual connection? Is there any similarity between u and ur grnad son's chart? It is really interresting me much. Kumar vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote: > ydaikiÂJ}aeh< iÖp #v mdaNx> smÉv<Stda svR}ae=SmITyÉvdvilÝ< mm mn>, > > ydaikiÂiTkiÂdœ buxjnskazadvgt< tda mUoaeR=SmIit jr #v mdae me Vypgt>. > > Dear List members, > > I had posted my chart as a puzzle with two dates asking for events that could have happened then. > The chart was basically posted as a challenge to those who were indulging in derision of respected astrologers,as was expected those worthies did not respond when their own skills were sought to be tested. > However a pleasant surprise was that many fellow list members and respected Gurus like Narasimharaoji and others gave their views on the puzzle. Sanjayji gave me some insight into my chart and he would give his opinion after everyone has attempted the puzzle. By the way he could notice some similarity in my chart and that of a Notable person of India. I think after my father, he is the only one who could do so, and he is right. > Ajoy, Ramanarayanan,Rajesh,Ash,Sureshchandra, Narayana Iyer and others also attempted to unravel the puzzle. > I am glad to say that everybody, at some stage or other came near or even hit one event or other. Various methods , all based on vedic astrology were used. Some missed the events too. But even here they only attributed a later event being predicted as having happened earlier. This proves that Vedic astrology is an exact science. When the results do not exactly match the event one need not think that the science is wrong, merely that the application was not that accurate or that the Astrologer's intution was not at peak at the time of prediction. > > I am going to give the results below, as many have attempted the puzzle, if I have mentioning anyone through oversite, I am certain you will pardon me.Now about the events: > > I was serving in the department of Agriculture, which I had joined in 1965. I was initially in charge of Air compressor and Blasting scheme for deepening of wells. Over time I became in charge of central store of Tractor department and had to get spares manufactured as there was shortage due to import problems. > > In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my friends (while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was. > This was Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar period. Mars my lord of the 5th was in 6th house and Sun Lord of 9th was in 3rd house. The connection to Govt. and Fire(those were the days of steam locomotives) is obvious. > > Other event was that my grandson was born on 13th Nov. 2003. Ketu- Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and aspects 9th and Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house with Mars in 10th house aspecting Ascendant. Adhi yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th house at that time. It might interest the members that my grandson had Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with that I had when I was born. > If I have missed mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight and I am certain that I would be pardoned for that. > This was also an attempt on my part, that even data of Natal Horoscope navamsha and Vimshottary dashas with gochar position used properly can, with the grace of God, help one give a fairly accurate prediction. I salute the knowledge of the menbers of this list. > In humility, > Chandrashekhar. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Dear Kumar, I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope. About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius. Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies. Chandrashekhar. - kumar_gh_2000 vedic astrology Monday, April 14, 2003 12:35 PM [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. >>> My grandson had Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with that I had when I was bornDear chandra shekhar ji,What is the mark of trishula indicates? Is there any spiritual connection? Is there any similarity between u and ur grnad son's chart? It is really interresting me much. Kumar --- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> ydaikiÂJ}aeh< iÖp #v mdaNx> smÉv<Stda svR}ae=SmITyÉvdvilÝ< mm mn>,> > ydaikiÂiTkiÂdœ buxjnskazadvgt< tda mUoaeR=SmIit jr #v mdae me Vypgt>.> > Dear List members,> > I had posted my chart as a puzzle with two dates asking for events that could have happened then.> The chart was basically posted as a challenge to those who were indulging in derision of respected astrologers,as was expected those worthies did not respond when their own skills were sought to be tested.> However a pleasant surprise was that many fellow list members and respected Gurus like Narasimharaoji and others gave their views on the puzzle. Sanjayji gave me some insight into my chart and he would give his opinion after everyone has attempted the puzzle. By the way he could notice some similarity in my chart and that of a Notable person of India. I think after my father, he is the only one who could do so, and he is right.> Ajoy, Ramanarayanan,Rajesh,Ash,Sureshchandra, Narayana Iyer and others also attempted to unravel the puzzle.> I am glad to say that everybody, at some stage or other came near or even hit one event or other. Various methods , all based on vedic astrology were used. Some missed the events too. But even here they only attributed a later event being predicted as having happened earlier. This proves that Vedic astrology is an exact science. When the results do not exactly match the event one need not think that the science is wrong, merely that the application was not that accurate or that the Astrologer's intution was not at peak at the time of prediction.> > I am going to give the results below, as many have attempted the puzzle, if I have mentioning anyone through oversite, I am certain you will pardon me.Now about the events:> > I was serving in the department of Agriculture, which I had joined in 1965. I was initially in charge of Air compressor and Blasting scheme for deepening of wells. Over time I became in charge of central store of Tractor department and had to get spares manufactured as there was shortage due to import problems.> > In 1974 I had floated a company with finance from one of my friends(while still in service). I had convinced the Yugoslav Govt. Company Yugo Intraco that it would be beneficial to manufacture spare parts of their Tractors in India and had demonstrated my ability to do so. On day one(25th Feb) we discussed everything at Mumbai in the embassy the final agreement for collaboration was to be signed next day. On that day at about 11.00 a.m. the comercial attache and the Consul informed us that the deal has fallen through as some problem arose between Indian and Yugoslav Govt. and they had received a telex not to go ahead. The reason was of course told to us, but is immaterial here. Only that there was some deal on railway wagons due to which our we got affected. You can imagine what a setback it was.> This was Sat-Moon-Sun Maha-Antar-Pratyantar period. Mars my lord of the 5th was in 6th house and Sun Lord of 9th was in 3rd house. The connection to Govt. and Fire(those were the days of steam locomotives) is obvious.> > Other event was that my grandson was born on 13th Nov. 2003. Ketu-Sat-Mer-Jup-Merc. In Gochar-Saturn joins natal Saturn and aspects 9th and Lord of ascendant is exalted aspecting my 4th house with Mars in 10th house aspecting Ascendant. Adhi yoga formed in Gochar wrt my 5th house at that time. It might interest the members that my grandson had Mark of Trishula on his forehead(Red) identical with that I had when I was born.> If I have missed mentioning anybody's name, it is through oversight and I am certain that I would be pardoned for that.> This was also an attempt on my part, that even data of Natal Horoscope navamsha and Vimshottary dashas with gochar position used properly can, with the grace of God, help one give a fairly accurate prediction. I salute the knowledge of the menbers of this list.> In humility,> Chandrashekhar.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Om Sri Gurave namah Dear Chandrasekhar ji Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has to be strongly connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for His weapon (Mars) to show its mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th house all right, and it has this aspect of Jupiter (deva guru) confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes the marks are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara chakra. Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at birth? There is only graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does your grandson have only rasi drishti of Jupiter or only graha drishti or both? Please check and confirm. If possible add his jhd chart. Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully. This has been highly extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the sages as for Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka. With best regards, Sanjay Rath H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India Webpages: http://srath.com ---- Dear Kumar, I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope. About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius. Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies. Chandrashekhar. __ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Attachment: (image/gif) IMSTP.gif [not stored] Attachment: (Image/gif) BackGrnd.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2003 Report Share Posted April 17, 2003 Dear Sanjayji, Mark on my forehead is not distigushable now, due to the fact that though I was veryfair when born, with Nagpur weather (47degrees + in summer) my face and other body parts exposed to Sun have been sunburnt/tanned considerably. In my Grandson's Chart , Jupiter aspects Scorpio and Mars aspects Sagitarius and Pisces. In navamsha Jupiter and Mars are in Mutual aspect. I am enclosing his chart for your ready reference. I have named the chart as Sudarshan Son 2 as inital info was his time as 11.20, but later his maternal Grandfather confirmed it as 11:22 and also that he personally noted it.Sudarshan is my only Son's name. Would you let me know the signification of this mark, if any. I am also looking forward to your interpretation of my chart, which you had promised you will post after others had posted about the puzzzle. With warm regards, Chandrashekhar. - Sanjay Rath vedic astrology Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:57 PM Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle. Om Sri Gurave namah Dear Chandrasekhar ji Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has to be strongly connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for His weapon (Mars) to show its mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th house all right, and it has this aspect of Jupiter (deva guru) confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes the marks are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara chakra. Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at birth? There is only graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does your grandson have only rasi drishti of Jupiter or only graha drishti or both? Please check and confirm. If possible add his jhd chart. Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully. This has been highly extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the sages as for Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka. With best regards, Sanjay Rath H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India Webpages: http://srath.com ---- Dear Kumar, I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope. About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius. Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies. Chandrashekhar. __ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Attachment: (image/gif) IMSTP.gif [not stored] Attachment: (Image/gif) BackGrnd.gif [not stored] Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Sudarshan Son2.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 Dear Guru Sanjay ji, Please tell me the spiritual significance of thrishula on the fore had. Is it blessing of lord shiva? Kumar vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Sanjayji, > Mark on my forehead is not distigushable now, due to the fact that though I was veryfair when born, with Nagpur weather (47degrees + in summer) my face and other body parts exposed to Sun have been sunburnt/tanned considerably. > In my Grandson's Chart , Jupiter aspects Scorpio and Mars aspects Sagitarius and Pisces. In navamsha Jupiter and Mars are in Mutual aspect. I am enclosing his chart for your ready reference. I have named the chart as Sudarshan Son 2 as inital info was his time as 11.20, but later his maternal Grandfather confirmed it as 11:22 and also that he personally noted it.Sudarshan is my only Son's name. > Would you let me know the signification of this mark, if any. > I am also looking forward to your interpretation of my chart, which you had promised you will post after others had posted about the puzzzle. > With warm regards, > Chandrashekhar. > - > Sanjay Rath > vedic astrology > Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:57 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle. > > > > Om Sri Gurave namah > Dear Chandrasekhar ji > Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has to be strongly connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for His weapon (Mars) to show its mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th house all right, and it has this aspect of Jupiter (deva guru) confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes the marks are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara chakra. > > Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at birth? There is only graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does your grandson have only rasi drishti of Jupiter or only graha drishti or both? Please check and confirm. If possible add his jhd chart. Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully. This has been highly extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the sages as for Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka. > > With best regards, > Sanjay Rath > H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > Webpages: http://srath.com > ---- > > vedic astrology > Tuesday, April 15, 2003 02:02:41 AM > vedic astrology > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. > > Dear Kumar, > I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope. > About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius. > Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies. > Chandrashekhar. > > > > __ > IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here > Sponsor > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 19, 2003 Report Share Posted April 19, 2003 ~OM~ Dear Kumar Yes. This can be either in forehead, palm or the foot. If such a native worships Shiva with the jeeva beeja or sanjiva/sanjivani beeja then fruits come very quickly. Mrityunjaya mantra is most suited for them (Vasistha rishi, Rig Veda VII-59 last mantra). With best wishes, Sanjay Rath ------------------------ H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India +91-674-2436871; Webpages:http://srath.com http://.org ------------------ ---- Dear Guru Sanjay ji,Please tell me the spiritual significance of thrishula on the fore had. Is it blessing of lord shiva? Kumarvedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear Sanjayji,> Mark on my forehead is not distigushable now, due to the fact that though I was veryfair when born, with Nagpur weather (47degrees + in summer) my face and other body parts exposed to Sun have been sunburnt/tanned considerably.> In my Grandson's Chart , Jupiter aspects Scorpio and Mars aspects Sagitarius and Pisces. In navamsha Jupiter and Mars are in Mutual aspect. I am enclosing his chart for your ready reference. I have named the chart as Sudarshan Son 2 as inital info was his time as 11.20, but later his maternal Grandfather confirmed it as 11:22 and also that he personally noted it.Sudarshan is my only Son's name.> Would you let me know the signification of this mark, if any.> I am also looking forward to your interpretation of my chart, which you had promised you will post after others had posted about the puzzzle.> With warm regards,> Chandrashekhar.> - > Sanjay Rath > vedic astrology > Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:57 PM> Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle.> > > > Om Sri Gurave namah > Dear Chandrasekhar ji> Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has to be strongly connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for His weapon (Mars) to show its mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th house all right, and it has this aspect of Jupiter (deva guru) confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes the marks are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara chakra.> > Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at birth? There is only graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does your grandson have only rasi drishti of Jupiter or only graha drishti or both? Please check and confirm. If possible add his jhd chart. Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully. This has been highly extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the sages as for Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka.> > With best regards,> Sanjay Rath> H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India> Webpages: http://srath.com> -------Original Message-------> > vedic astrology> Date: Tuesday, April 15, 2003 02:02:41 AM> To: vedic astrology> Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle.> > Dear Kumar,> I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope.> About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting 3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd and 7th. There are other similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn and Mars aspect Sagitarius.> Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead signifies.> Chandrashekhar.> > > > __> IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here > Sponsor > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... __ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Attachment: (image/gif) IMSTP.gif [not stored] Attachment: (Image/gif) BackGrnd.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 22, 2003 Report Share Posted April 22, 2003 Dear Sanjay ji, Thank you very much for your explanation. Kumar vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <daivagyna@s...> wrote: > > > ~OM~ > Dear Kumar > Yes. This can be either in forehead, palm or the foot. If such a native > worships Shiva with the jeeva beeja or sanjiva/sanjivani beeja then fruits > come very quickly. Mrityunjaya mantra is most suited for them (Vasistha > rishi, Rig Veda VII-59 last mantra). > With best wishes, > Sanjay Rath > ------------------------ > H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > +91-674-2436871; > Webpages:http://srath.com http://.org > ------------------ > ---- > > vedic astrology > Saturday, April 19, 2003 06:53:51 PM > vedic astrology > [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. > > Dear Guru Sanjay ji, > Please tell me the spiritual significance of thrishula on the fore > had. Is it blessing of lord shiva? > Kumar > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > <boxdel> wrote: > > Dear Sanjayji, > > Mark on my forehead is not distigushable now, due to the fact that > though I was veryfair when born, with Nagpur weather (47degrees + in > summer) my face and other body parts exposed to Sun have been > sunburnt/tanned considerably. > > In my Grandson's Chart , Jupiter aspects Scorpio and Mars aspects > Sagitarius and Pisces. In navamsha Jupiter and Mars are in Mutual > aspect. I am enclosing his chart for your ready reference. I have > named the chart as Sudarshan Son 2 as inital info was his time as > 11.20, but later his maternal Grandfather confirmed it as 11:22 and > also that he personally noted it.Sudarshan is my only Son's name. > > Would you let me know the signification of this mark, if any. > > I am also looking forward to your interpretation of my chart, which > you had promised you will post after others had posted about the > puzzzle. > > With warm regards, > > Chandrashekhar. > > - > > Sanjay Rath > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, April 16, 2003 12:57 PM > > Re: [vedic astrology] My puzzle. > > > > > > > > Om Sri Gurave namah > > Dear Chandrasekhar ji > > Where is Mars in the horoscope of your grandson? Mars has > to be strongly connected with the house of Shiva (7th house) for His > weapon (Mars) to show its mark of protection. You have Mars in 7th > house all right, and it has this aspect of Jupiter (deva guru) > confirming that the mark shall be that of Siva. Sometimes the marks > are based on the nakshatra placement of the planet based on the Nara > chakra. > > > > Next point. Do you still have this mark that was there at > birth? There is only graha drishti from Jupiter to the Mars. Does > your grandson have only rasi drishti of Jupiter or only graha drishti > or both? Please check and confirm. If possible add his jhd chart. > Look at the Guru-mangala relationship carefully. This has been highly > extolled in the Sapta rishi nadi and other works by the sages as for > Cancer lagna, this in the sixth house also is considered very > auspicious. I think it derives its beneficence from Sri Rama Jataka. > > > > With best regards, > > Sanjay Rath > > H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India > > Webpages: http://srath.com > > ---- > > > > vedic astrology > > Tuesday, April 15, 2003 02:02:41 AM > > vedic astrology > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: My puzzle. > > > > Dear Kumar, > > I do not know whether the mark signifies anything. The > reason I mentioned was to show how 9th house is relevant for > Grandson's matter in a person's Horoscope. > > About my Grand son's chart, He has Jupiter in 7th aspecting > 3rd and 11th , whereas I have Jupiter posited in 11th aspecting 3rd > and 7th. There are other similarities too. In both horoscope Saturn > and Mars aspect Sagitarius. > > Gurus might know what a Mark of Trishul(Red) on forehead > signifies. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > __ > > IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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