11th from AL & Jupiter in 3rd

April 13, 2003

Dear All,

As we know any planet 11th from AL shows wealth for

native.

Now 11th from AL is possible when Lagna Lord is in

3rd.And if Lagna lord is Jupiter (For Dhanu Lagna)then

it will be in its maransthan (Gurus pls correct me for

maransthan of Jupiter & also it then placed at

badhkasthan from Aries which become AL)then in such

situtaion what kind of effect will be shown by

Jupiter(if it qualifies for mahayogda,also).

Hope to get some help on it...

Regards

Parag

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April 13, 2003

Om Sri Gurave namah

Dear Parag

The fact that Jupiter is in the third house as the lord of Lagna does cause

Marana Karaka to operate on the lagna and the fourth houses for Dhanus lagna

and that this will happen in the lagna and tenth house for Meena Lagna. I will

discuss the positions independantly and cite two cases.

Dhanus Lagna

Guru is the lord of Lagna and the fourth house and its placement in the Marana

Karaka sthana causes the houses owned by it to get annihilated. These houses

rule various matters. For example, the fourth house rules properties, houses,

mother etc. In one case, the Moon (karaka for mother) was in trines to the 4th

house, so mother is protected. Mars is the Atmakaraka and is placed in the

sixth house from the 4th house in Leo. There is Guru mangala yoga but this is

not going to favor the native in matters of properties. The native belonged to

a very landed family from erstwhile East Bengal. With partition, he was

separated from all those properties and during the time of his birth and

growing up, his parents has already suffered a severe downfall in their status

etc. All that property is lost once and for all and can never be recovered.

Thus, you can see that the native has suffered the 'marana karaka sthana

placement of Jupiter at birth itself' - today there are no properties for him

to inherit, this also destroys the big ego (lagna) that comes with these

properties...good for his spiritual growth. Other details you can ask him..he

is a Jyotish Guru of SJC. He will tell you how the blessings of maharishi

Jaimini came and he went to singapore.

You see when the lagna lord is in marana sthana then the native goes abroad or

leaves the lagna (place or nation/culture of birth).

Meena Lagna

There was this nice lady who was our junior and good friend in the Defence

Ministry. She has Meena Lagna with guru in the third house in Taurus. She

always had the deep desire to stay in a foreign land. When the time came, she

was asked to wear a POKHRAJ (yellow sapphire) and told that she would go

towards the south, probably Australia etc with her spouse and would stay in a

foreign land when the blessings of the Guru. She wore the pokhraj, her spouse

got a posting in Australia, she went there with him. Now you will see that she

almost lost her IAS Allied services job in the government because of this, and

then promptly took out the pokhraj and returned to India as she wanted to have

the job.

You see here Guru acted as in Marana sthana for lagna and hence takes the person

abroad. Since it is also the tenth lord, she almost lost her government job as

well if she had continued indefinitely out there.

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In both the cases, your point about 11th house from AL is very brilliant. YES

YOU ARE CORRECT. Both have gained financially, very substantially after this

trip abroad.

Your point about Badhak from AL - as the benefic Jupiter in the badhak from the

AL will remove all Badhak, but you also have a point as here the native has to

do something that guru wants then the heavens shower their blessings on him.

Sanjay Rath

H-5 B.J.B Nagar, Bhubaneswar 751014, India

Webpages: http://srath.com

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Dear All,As we know any planet 11th from AL shows wealth fornative.Now 11th

from AL is possible when Lagna Lord is in3rd.And if Lagna lord is Jupiter (For

Dhanu Lagna)thenit will be in its maransthan (Gurus pls correct me

formaransthan of Jupiter & also it then placed atbadhkasthan from Aries which

become AL)then in suchsitutaion what kind of effect will be shown byJupiter(if

it qualifies for mahayogda,also).Hope to get some help on

it...RegardsParagDo you

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April 13, 2003

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Parag and Gurudev,

The first case is mine, where my dhanu lagna lord is placed in the 3rd Aquarius

in the 11th from the AL. Gurudev has shown how to interpret such placement.

However I would like to narrate some principles.

1. The responsibility of protecting a house lies with the lord of the house and karaka of the house.

2. There are multiple karakas of a house, each governing a particular aspect of life.

3. The house gains if the Kendras and konas are placed with natural benefics and

loses if placed with natural malefics.

4. The exceptionsto condition 3, are lord of the house and the karaka of the

house. This means, if a lord of the house is malefic, then its placement in the

kendra is not bad. Similarly, the placement of a malefic karaka in the kendra or

trine is not bad.

5. The Lords and Karakas aspect to their houses is good.

6. The placement of the Lord of the house with the karaka of that house shall

enhance the indication of that particular karaka. This is true also if the lord

is aspected by the karaka of the house.

Now analyse the your case based on these principles.

Jupiter is in Maranakaraka sthana so it will annihilate its houses. Now to what

extent he would do that is based on the above mentioned conditions. Lets take

the Lagna. The Karaka for Lagna are the Sun and Moon, for initiative, drive,

intelligence, vitality (represented by Sun) and body (Moon). Sun is placed in

the Trine to the Lagna with its friends and shall protect the lagna so the

sun's indications are not spoilt; more to this, Sun is aspecting the lord of

the sign Jupiter. Lets take the next karaka Moon. Moon is afflicted in the 12th

house in debilitation and with conjunction with Debilitated Rahu. I have been

suffering due to chronic asthma from very young age. You see that the body is

under trouble.

Take the 4th house, the karakas are

Mother- Moon

Landed Property - Mars

House - Ketu

Vehicles - Venus

Education - Mercury

Now you have to check which of this significations are protected and which are

not. Moon is placed in trine and afflicted. So Mother is alive but suffering.

Mars and Merc is placed in the 6th house, so unable to protect its house. But

they are aspecting the 4th lord and Mars aspecting the 4th house. Thus both

shall happen... Losing of property and then procuring some again. Venus is

placed in the trine and hence better... there is no problem with Vehicles.

Mercury like Mars, shows that the education suffered, however I went on to

secure the top position in the class and in the country in one subject in

secondary school. Ketu is placed in the 3rd house debilitated... No reason why

shall I expect my own house from this Grha Karaka Ketu.

You see that although the houses are affected the natural significations of

Jupiter is intact and it is giving fantastic Guru-Mangala Yoga for Jyotish... I

got such a priseworthy Guru. Similarly it shall give money too as placed in the

11th from AL.The natural significations of Jupiter is gaining because of the

aspects of friends from the 9th.

However, this would not be true for the Charakarakas represented by the Graha.

As the Marana Avastha represent death, this can only come living persons

represented by chara karakas. However its 20 more years for the Aquarius

Narayana dasa to start, which houses my Jupiter.

Hope this has put some clarity in the concepts of Horoscope analysis.

Best Wishes

Sarajit

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Sanjay Rath

vedic astrology

Monday, April 14, 2003 2:42 AM

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