Guest guest Posted April 11, 2003 Report Share Posted April 11, 2003 Hi all, I am going through the last phase of sadesati. Had enough for last 5yrs or so!! My marriage is failure ( a major set back in this period). I had two left knee surgeries within 4 months time last year. This is it so far. I don't know how worse is it going to get.. My details: DOB: May 12, 1967. TOB: 2:20 AM POB: Sangli (16N52,74E34) India May someone throw light on this situation, Thanx in advance Prakash Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 The best way to deal with miseries in life (often attributed by us to Saturn & other malefic transits) is to practise real detachment in this material world. In a sense, thats the only weapon which can help us during bad phases like SadeSati. In a sense, most of the disappointment about which we seem to hear from others going through SadeSati seems to be related mostly to some aspects of this material world especially their expectations in life vs reality. Either they are unhappy in a relation, unhappy financially, had unrealistic expectations in past which leads them to present predicament. Even if we were to ignore the reference to our past sins for sometime, something we did in the past of this life itself could have very much lead us to make the bad phase look ugly. Saturn's transit often reminds us that we must learn to be content with what we have and most importantly adjust in present situation. Since we are not prepared in most cases, the sufferings seem to be very huge psychologically. Looking for planetary combinations or even trying to look for remedies just because there are good yogas in the chart or neutralizing dasa phase is running does not alter the essential message of detachment. In fact, in doing so, the native might be just doing opposite of what was intended by that bad phase. In essence, aiming for (quick) results (even in context of a chart reading for remedies) rather than concentrating on actions with detachment seems to be root cause of the problem. (Gita's simple yet a universal message) Raju Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 dear mr. shankarji, i think the file you found is same (i do not remember well). anyway i will send the file as an attachment directly to you. as regards, its effectts on reducing the harm, i am not sure as i am not an authority on this. even i don't know astrology. but, i here this mantra everyday as soon as i come to my office in the morning and i am feel very pleasant. in fact, in my office every morning i play - venkateswara suprabhatam, vedic worship of saturn and lalitha sahasranama stotram. in the evening before leaving office i play bhagawadgeeta. with all these i feel very fresh and energetic. this is my experience which may differ from person to person. lastly, the clarification of this mantra can well be given by the learned gurus on this forum and i look forward for the same for my knowledge and guidance. with regards, t. v. rao - Shankar vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 8:47 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati Dear Raoji, Namaste, and thanks a lot for offering the help. You can easily send me files at my e-mail address (shank4124 ) No problem at all. You have mentioned in another post that the file might be in the "file" page of the group. And you have mentioned that the file is 981 kb. I visited the file section and found an "rm" file which is 982 kb. I think this is the same file? Although the name is not "vedic worship of saturn" but only "sani.rm" and no name of author, too. But for the same format and same size I think this is the same file? Please remove my doubts....... So does the mantra reduces the harm of natal saturn? Please let me know I will start listening to it soon. Thanks once again for the prompt help. Thanks a lot. Regards, S. vedic astrology, tvrao_agd <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote:> dear mr. shankar,> > let me know you email address so that i can send you shani mantras recitation in real media format. it is a 981 kb file and i don't want to flood the group space by sending the same to group address.> > t. v. rao> > - > Shankar > To: vedic astrology > Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:09 PM> Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati> > > Dear Gaurangaji, Rageshwariji and others,> > I have following questions regarding Saturn. Please help me:> > 1)In general, what is/are the wa........................ Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 dear mr. shankarji, for chamakam, you may get a cd instead trying to download the as the file of rudram will be very big (around 42 mb). with regards, t. v. rao - Shankar vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 10:31 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati Dear Sarbaniji and others,Namaste.Can any one tell me of a site where I can find a audio of Sri Chamakam?Thanks and Regards,S. vedic astrology, "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani@s...> wrote:> Dear Shankar,> > At SJC we have been taught to recite Sri Chamakam as a standard practice to> alleviate the malefic effects of Saturn, specially during its transits over> the natal Moon.> > Best regards,> > Sarbani> > -----Original Message-----> Shankar [shank4124]> Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:03 PM> vedic astrology> Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati> > Dear Gaurangaji and Sweeji,> Namaste.> Thanks to both of you for taking the time for this invalueable help. Thanks> a lot to take the time and effort to answer me kindly. Gaurangaji I ......................... Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 hi all, One of the very effective remedy that can be done during sadhesati is to offer wine / liquor to Bhairon Ji ( in baihron temple only) but be sure that you don't consume any single drop of liquor / wine. neeraj --- "Rajagopal.R" <raja_gopal_r wrote: > The best way to deal with miseries in life (often > attributed by us to Saturn & other malefic transits) > is to practise real detachment in this material > world. In a sense, thats the only weapon which can > help us during bad phases like SadeSati. > > In a sense, most of the disappointment about which > we seem to hear from others going through SadeSati > seems to be related mostly to some aspects of this > material world especially their expectations in life > vs reality. Either they are unhappy in a relation, > unhappy financially, had unrealistic expectations in > past which leads them to present predicament. > > Even if we were to ignore the reference to our past > sins for sometime, something we did in the past of > this life itself could have very much lead us to > make the bad phase look ugly. Saturn's transit often > reminds us that we must learn to be content with > what we have and most importantly adjust in present > situation. Since we are not prepared in most cases, > the sufferings seem to be very huge psychologically. > > Looking for planetary combinations or even trying to > look for remedies just because there are good yogas > in the chart or neutralizing dasa phase is running > does not alter the essential message of detachment. > In fact, in doing so, the native might be just doing > opposite of what was intended by that bad phase. > > In essence, aiming for (quick) results (even in > context of a chart reading for remedies) rather than > concentrating on actions with detachment seems to be > root cause of the problem. (Gita's simple yet a > universal message) > > Raju ===== http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Dear Mr Shankar, What I know, that generally a mantra of saturn, (Such as beeja mantra, samanya mantra, puranic mantra etc.) will strengthen the saturn's effect. To reduce harm of saturn you may donate saturn type of things to the poor and use less of those things for yourself, worship of Lords like Hanumana, Ganesha, Shiva etc. Maha Mrityunjaya Mantra is good in this regard. Other like Hanuman Chalisa, and other lords mantras will also help the matter.Respected Gurus please correct me if I am wrong here :-) Also other learned members will suggest different mantras I hope :-)Regards,Tanvir "What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine." Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Namaste. The files are same, but again, thank you for sending it to me. I have seen an audio named "Rudra Namakam-Chamakam" in a site Gaurangaki referred. So, is the "Rudra Namakam-Chamakam" same thing of "Sree Chamakam"? Please let me know.Thanks for your continuous kind help. Also, I am waiting for the clarification of the mantra by respected Gurus here.Regards,S. vedic astrology, tvrao_agd <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote:> dear mr. shankarji,> > i think the file you found is same (i do not remember well). anyway i will send the file as an attachment directly to you.> > as regards, its effectts on reducing the harm, i am not sure as i am not an authority on this. even i don't know astrology. but, i here this mantra everyday as soon as i come to my office in the morning and i am feel very pleasant. in fact, in my office every morning i play - venkateswara suprabhatam, vedic worship of saturn and lalitha sahasranama stotram. in the evening before leaving office i play bhagawadgeeta. with all these i feel very fresh and energetic. this is my experience which may differ from person to person.> > lastly, the clarification of this mantra can well be given by the learned gurus on this forum and i look forward for the same for my knowledge and guidance.> > with regards,> > t. v. rao> > - > Shankar > To: vedic astrology > Friday, April 11, 2003 8:47 PM> Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati> > > Dear Raoji,> Namaste, and thanks a lot for offering the help. You can easily send me files at my e-mail address (shank4124) No problem at all.> > You have mentioned in another post that the file might be in the "file" page of the group. And you have mentioned that the file is 981 kb. I visited the file section and found an "rm" file which is 982 kb. I think this is the same file? Although the name is not "vedic worship of saturn" but only "sani.rm" and no name of author, too. But for the same format and same size I think this is the same file? Please remove my doubts.......> > So does the mantra reduces the harm of natal saturn? Please let me know I will start listening to it soon.> > Thanks once again for the prompt help. Thanks a lot.> > Regards,> S.> > --- In vedic astrology, tvrao_agd <tvrao_agd@s...> wrote:> > dear mr. shankar,> > > > let me know you email address so that i can send you shani mantras recitation in real media format. it is a 981 kb file and i don't want to flood the group space by sending the same to group address.> > > > t. v. rao> > > > - > > Shankar > > vedic astrology > > Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:09 PM> > Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati> > > > > > Dear Gaurangaji, Rageshwariji and others,> > > > I have following questions regarding Saturn. Please help me:> > > > 1)In general, what is/are the wa........................ Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more > Sponsor > > > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Namaste. Thanks for the kind help. Regards,S. vedic astrology, "Tanvir" <tanvir@s...> wrote:> Dear Mr Shankar,> What I know, that generally a mantra of saturn, (Such as beeja mantra, samanya mantra, puranic mantra etc.) will strengthen the saturn's effect. To reduce harm of saturn you may donate saturn type of things to the poor and use less of those things for yourself, worship of Lords like Hanumana, Ganesha, Shiva etc. Maha Mrityunjaya Mantra is good in this regard. Other like Hanuman Chalisa, and other lords mantras will also help the matter.> > Respected Gurus please correct me if I am wrong here :-) Also other learned members will suggest different mantras I hope :-)> > Regards,> Tanvir> > > "What can not happen, can never happen.> Which is mine, is forever mine."> > Tanvir Chowdhury> tanvir@s...> http://www.geocities.com/king_tanvir> http://www.geocities.com/planetaryastro> Do you ? Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 What is SJC. Is it some other learning group. I am now studying from Narshima Rao Ji's book. It's really good with exercises to master concepts. Thanks to you all. It's my sadhesati period running. I have good net connection. if one knows from where to download chamakam kindly tell. neeraj --- tvrao_agd <tvrao_agd wrote: > dear mr. shankarji, > > for chamakam, you may get a cd instead trying to > download the as the file of rudram will be very big > (around 42 mb). > > with regards, > > t. v. rao > > - > Shankar > vedic astrology > Friday, April 11, 2003 10:31 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati > > > Dear Sarbaniji and others, > Namaste. > > Can any one tell me of a site where I can find a > audio of Sri Chamakam? > > Thanks and Regards, > S. > > > > vedic astrology, "Sarbani > Sarkar" <sarbani@s...> wrote: > > Dear Shankar, > > > > At SJC we have been taught to recite Sri > Chamakam as a standard practice to > > alleviate the malefic effects of Saturn, > specially during its transits over > > the natal Moon. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > Shankar [shank4124] > > Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:03 PM > > vedic astrology > > Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati > > > > Dear Gaurangaji and Sweeji, > > Namaste. > > Thanks to both of you for taking the time for > this invalueable help. Thanks > > a lot to take the time and effort to answer me > kindly. Gaurangaji I ........................ > Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and > more > Sponsor > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Terms of Service. > ===== http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 Try http://.org Best regards, Garamond;color:navy;mso-color-alt:windowtext"> mso-color-alt:windowtext"> Sarbani mso-color-alt:windowtext"> Garamond"> 10.0pt;font-family:Tahoma;color:black"> Neeraj Gupta [gupta_neeraj_2000 ] Saturday, April 12, 2003 5:21 PM To: vedic astrology Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati 12.0pt"> What is SJC. Is it some other learning group. I am now mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New";color:black"> studying from Narshima Rao Ji's book. It's really good with exercises to master concepts. Thanks to you all. It's my sadhesati period running. I have good net connection. if one knows from where to download chamakam kindly tell. neeraj --- tvrao_agd <tvrao_agd (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in> wrote: > dear mr. shankarji, > > for chamakam, you may get a cd instead trying to > download the as the file of rudram will be very big > (around 42 mb). > > with regards, > > t. v. rao > > - > Shankar > vedic astrology > Friday, April 11, 2003 10:31 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati > > > Dear Sarbaniji and others, > Namaste. > > Can any one tell me of a site where I can find a > audio of Sri Chamakam? > > Thanks and Regards, > S. > > > > vedic astrology, "Sarbani > Sarkar" <sarbani@s...> wrote: > > Dear Shankar, > > > > At SJC we have been taught to recite Sri > Chamakam as a standard practice to > > alleviate the malefic effects of Saturn, > specially during its transits over > > the natal Moon. > > > > Best regards, > > > > Sarbani > > > > > > Shankar [shank4124] > > Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:03 PM > > vedic astrology > > Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati > > > > Dear Gaurangaji and Sweeji, > > Namaste. > > Thanks to both of you for taking the time for > this invalueable help. Thanks > > a lot to take the time and effort to answer me > kindly. Gaurangaji I ........................ > Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and > more > Sponsor > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Terms of Service. > ===== http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax. line-break"> windowtext"> color:black"> "Courier New";mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New";color:black"> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || Your use of is subject to the Terms of Service. mso-color-alt:windowtext"> Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 12, 2003 Report Share Posted April 12, 2003 The best way to deal with miseries in life (often attributed by us to Saturn & other malefic transits) is to practise real detachment in this material world. In a sense, thats the only weapon which can help us during bad phases like SadeSati. In a sense, most of the disappointment about which we seem to hear from others going through SadeSati seems to be related mostly to some aspects of this material world especially their expectations in life vs reality. Either they are unhappy in a relation, unhappy financially, had unrealistic expectations in past which leads them to present predicament. Even if we were to ignore the reference to our past sins for sometime, something we did in the past of this life itself could have very much lead us to make the bad phase look ugly. Saturn's transit often reminds us that we must learn to be content with what we have and most importantly adjust in present situation. Since we are not prepared in most cases, the sufferings seem to be very huge psychologically. Looking for planetary combinations or even trying to look for remedies just because there are good yogas in the chart or neutralizing dasa phase is running does not alter the essential message of detachment. In fact, in doing so, the native might be just doing opposite of what was intended by that bad phase. In essence, aiming for (quick) results (even in context of a chart reading for remedies) rather than concentrating on actions with detachment seems to be root cause of the problem. (Gita's simple yet a universal message) RajuArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do you ? Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2003 Report Share Posted April 13, 2003 -Manorama Occult Publications Manorama Bhawan, 170B, Bank Enclave, Delhi, India 110092 Phone 91-11-22468683 the site www.vedicweb.com/Manorama.htm . - Shankar vedic astrology Friday, April 11, 2003 10:31 PM Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati Dear Sarbaniji and others,Namaste.Can any one tell me of a site where I can find a audio of Sri Chamakam?Thanks and Regards,S. vedic astrology, "Sarbani Sarkar" <sarbani@s...> wrote:> Dear Shankar,> > At SJC we have been taught to recite Sri Chamakam as a standard practice to> alleviate the malefic effects of Saturn, specially during its transits over> the natal Moon.> > Best regards,> > Sarbani> > -----Original Message-----> Shankar [shank4124]> Thursday, April 10, 2003 11:03 PM> vedic astrology> Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati> > Dear Gaurangaji and Sweeji,> Namaste.> Thanks to both of you for taking the time for this invalueable help. Thanks> a lot to take the time and effort to answer me kindly. Gaurangaji I did not> know of those sites and thanks a lot for letting me know. I have checked> both the sites and will be getting the audios soon till the files are little> heavy. But I am going to get them as soon as possible.> Sweeji thanks for the additional help with personal experience which you> kindly offered. I truely owe you.> So respected Gurujis I think that this will also help people who are also> suffering for Saturn's affliction in natal chart? (Janam-Kundali?) I mean> people who are not under Sade-Sati but passing bad time for permanent natal> affliction of Saturn in Janma-Kundali. Will these mantras also work in that> case. Otherwise, is there any mantra the person can chant for natal> Saturn-affliction? If there is any other ways for natal Saturn's affliction,> would you please be kind to let me know.> Thanks and regards,> S.> > _____> > > Tax Center> <http://us.rd./finance/mailsig/*http://tax.> - File> online, calculators, forms, and more> > > Sponsor> > <http://us.ard./M=249982.3083889.4452939.1728375/D=egroupweb/S=1705> 082686:HM/A=1524963/R=0/*http://hits.411web.com/cgi-bin/autoredir?camp=556&l> ineid=3083889?=egroupweb&pos=HM>> > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu ||> > Terms of Service> <> . Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 13, 2003 Report Share Posted April 13, 2003 OM KLEEM KRSHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Shankar, Also you can donate some amount of your self earned money to Leprosy ashrams and / Parayana of Sundara Kanda of Ramayana sanskrit Shlokas followed by the meaning of the shlokas in your language.This can be finished in 16 days and on the final day giving Nivedya of sweetened lemon juice and soaked green gram pulses with rice kheer.Keep a photo of Sri Rama ,Lakshman ,with Sita Mata and Hanuman. I hope this helps a lot during Shani's Sade Sathi. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Tanvir <tanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) com> wrote: Dear Mr Shankar, What I know, that generally a mantra of saturn, (Such as beeja mantra, samanya mantra, puranic mantra etc.) will strengthen the saturn's effect. To reduce harm of saturn you may donate saturn type of things to the poor and use less of those things for yourself, worship of Lords like Hanumana, Ganesha, Shiva etc. Maha Mrityunjaya Mantra is good in this regard. Other like Hanuman Chalisa, and other lords mantras will also help the matter.Respected Gurus please correct me if I am wrong here :-) Also other learned members will suggest different mantras I hope :-)Regards,Tanvir "What can not happen, can never happen.Which is mine, is forever mine." Tanvir Chowdhurytanvir (AT) siriusbb (DOT) comhttp://www.geocities.com/king_tanvirhttp://www.geocities.com/planetaryastroArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 14, 2003 Report Share Posted April 14, 2003 Prakash, You have another 3 and a half years to finish sade sati. You are now undergoing the mahadasha of Jupiter which will last until February, 2009. Since Jupiter is exalted, you must have accomplished some good things during this period, despite the sade sati. The planet that is causing the challenges for you is Mars, which is retrograde and in opposition to Saturn. This opposition has caused the marital discord and accidents that you mentioned. You should request a pandit to perform yagyas for you during the subperiods of Mars to avert any disturbances in your life. Regards, John R. --- pjagdale <pjagdale wrote: > Hi all, > > I am going through the last phase of sadesati. Had > enough for last > 5yrs or so!! My marriage is failure ( a major set > back in this > period). I had two left knee surgeries within 4 > months time last > year. This is it so far. I don't know how worse is > it going to get.. > > My details: > > DOB: May 12, 1967. > TOB: 2:20 AM > POB: Sangli (16N52,74E34) India > > May someone throw light on this situation, > > Thanx in advance > > Prakash > > Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and more http://tax. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2003 Report Share Posted April 15, 2003 Dear Mr. Chandrashekhar, I am so sorry in responding to your email with extreme delay, I can only blame it on time lines. I found your post very simple and effective; also by reading your post most westerners who are unable to recite mantras can atleast implement what is required by Saturn beforehand. Thanks so much for the post, very beautifully explained, that's all I can say. Warm regards, Sushmita vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote: > Dear Sushmita, > Saturn generally gives loss of money/reputation/family generally during the first 2and1/2 years.This is to teach a lesson in Humility. You will find people start believing themselves to be superior on account of one or other.Rest follows the pattern expressed in earlier post. I think his intention is to show world in stark colours bereft of Maya. > The way to combat this would be to be equitable in Victory or defeat and try to keep a balanced head on shoulder. Bloated egos generally exagerate effects of Sade Sati as the higher you go the greater distance that you fall. But one thing is to be remembered that Saturn is dispassionate and views even those who gloat over their being pious or religious or even philonthropists in the same light as others. > The saving grace is that Saturn generally does not kill but makes one suffer during this time. > Meditation would definitely help, but better remedy to give up false ego so that the fall is not from greater heights. Whether one is westerner or easterner does not make any difference to the Great Teacher Saturn. > The advantage of a sadesati is that it teaches one the value of patience, and makes one mature. > I hope this helps you in understanding effects of Sadesati better. > Chandrashekhar. > - > sushmita34 > vedic astrology > Friday, April 11, 2003 12:05 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Sadesati > > > Dear Chandrashekar, > > Thanks so much for the explanation, does the lesson which Saturn > teaches changes from house to house (bhava), I am presuming here that > life's lessons are different for each individual. > I mean in effect can the lessons of life be divided into 12 sections, > just a thought here but maybe not correct. > Also, I am trying to contemplate that if one knows the lesson that is > to be taught, one can meditate intensely and internally be ready for > it, thereby reducing the effect of Saturn. > If this be true then westerners who can't recite mantras can use this > tool and help themselves from the harsh lessons of Sadesati. > If the effects of saturn as your post mentioned starts few months > before, so should the remedial measures be done before hand rather > than wait for Saturn to enter the 12th. Pls correct and reassure, if > needed as to whether my thought processes is on the right track. > > Warm regards, > > Sushmita > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > <boxdel> wrote: > > Dear Sushmita, > > Sadesati is, as you said, said to operate wrt. Moon. Some also > treat similar motion of Saturn wrt Lagna. Sadesati is bad for those > whose ascendant lord is enemy of Saturn, generally. Again, I think, > rather than number the time in one's life when sadesati arives is > relevant. This is because saturn is powerful in late age, in its > effects. The relevant dashas also exagerate or soften the impact of > sadesati. Anyway, to my way of thinking, sadesati is the time when > Saturn teaches the jataka about what is life in reality. When Saturn > is in 12th one tends to speculate or overspend and borrowbeyond his > means. When in 1st his thought process gets disturbed making him take > wrong decisions. When he enters 2nd house the money is all gone and > those who he thought were his friends fast disappear. But he finds > whom he thought his distractors standing by him. This is when he > understands what is life and gains knowledge in real sense of the > world. This is how I look at sadesati. Then he shifts to 3rd and > progress of the Jataka starts, but he is able to retain what ever he > gains due to knowledge that Saturn has given in past 7 and 1/2 years. > > About Katweji's opinion I tend to agree with him. Saturn casts his > shadow three months before he enters a house and gives results,for > the previous house, just as he crosses in to a house. Now as he in > the 11th before actual transit to 12th he is aspecting 1st house and > so, Katweji's statement holds sense. Though whether to treat the > effect commencing from 15 degrees in previous house would depend on > the speed of his movement. > > This of course is my personal opinion and others more learned than > me might differ. > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 15, 2003 Report Share Posted April 15, 2003 SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT AUM GURUUBYO NAMAH Dear Sushmita,members & Gurus, Namaste, In understanding Sadesathi and helping each other by way of knowledge sharing, members and Gurus have contributed to a great deal. I think Sushmita you initiated it. As a little squirrel i thought i can also share what i have. Saturn represents Alcohol in the Six weakness list. He teaches the lessons slowly but in a very laborious and effective manner. He makes one realise that no building is constructed just like that - it is constructed brick by brick. During his period he helps in bringing the Deva out of Devadas. My submission in this regard is in the word document attached. Astrologically yours, p.s.ramanarayanan. sushmita34 <sushmita34 > wrote: Dear Mr. Chandrashekhar,I am so sorry in responding to your email with extreme delay, I can only blame it on time lines.I found your post very simple and effective; also by reading your post most westerners who are unable to recite mantras can atleast implement what is required by Saturn beforehand.Thanks so much for the post, very beautifully explained, that's all I can say.Warm regards,Sushmita--- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" wrote:> Dear Sushmita,> Saturn generally gives loss of money/reputation/family generally during the first 2and1/2 years.This is to teach a lesson in Humility. You will find people start believing themselves to be superior on account of one or other.Rest follows the pattern expressed in earlier post. I think his intention is to show world in stark colours bereft of Maya.> The way to combat this would be to be equitable in Victory or defeat and try to keep a balanced head on shoulder. Bloated egos generally exagerate effects of Sade Sati as the higher you go the greater distance that you fall. But one thing is to be remembered that Saturn is dispassionate and views even those who gloat over their being pious or religious or even philonthropists in the same light as others. > The saving grace is that Saturn generally does not kill but makes one suffer during this time.> Meditation would definitely help, but better remedy to give up false ego so that the fall is not from greater heights. Whether one is westerner or easterner does not make any difference to the Great Teacher Saturn.> The advantage of a sadesati is that it teaches one the value of patience, and makes one mature.> I hope this helps you in understanding effects of Sadesati better.> Chandrashekhar.> - > sushmita34 > To: vedic astrology > Friday, April 11, 2003 12:05 PM> [vedic astrology] Re: Sadesati> > > Dear Chandrashekar,> > Thanks so much for the explanation, does the lesson which Saturn > teaches changes from house to house (bhava), I am presuming here that > life's lessons are different for each individual. > I mean in effect can the lessons of life be divided into 12 sections, > just a thought here but maybe not correct.> Also, I am trying to contemplate that if one knows the lesson that is > to be taught, one can meditate intensely and internally be ready for > it, thereby reducing the effect of Saturn.> If this be true then westerners who can't recite mantras can use this > tool and help themselves from the harsh lessons of Sadesati.> If the effects of saturn as your post mentioned starts few months > before, so should the remedial measures be done before hand rather > than wait for Saturn to enter the 12th. Pls correct and reassure, if > needed as to whether my thought processes is on the right track.> > Warm regards,> > Sushmita> > --- In vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > wrote:> > Dear Sushmita,> > Sadesati is, as you said, said to operate wrt. Moon. Some also > treat similar motion of Saturn wrt Lagna. Sadesati is bad for those > whose ascendant lord is enemy of Saturn, generally. Again, I think, > rather than number the time in one's life when sadesati arives is > relevant. This is because saturn is powerful in late age, in its > effects. The relevant dashas also exagerate or soften the impact of > sadesati. Anyway, to my way of thinking, sadesati is the time when > Saturn teaches the jataka about what is life in reality. When Saturn > is in 12th one tends to speculate or overspend and borrowbeyond his > means. When in 1st his thought process gets disturbed making him take > wrong decisions. When he enters 2nd house the money is all gone and > those who he thought were his friends fast disappear. But he finds > whom he thought his distractors standing by him. This is when he > understands what is life and gains knowledge in real sense of the > world. This is how I look at sadesati. Then he shifts to 3rd and > progress of the Jataka starts, but he is able to retain what ever he > gains due to knowledge that Saturn has given in past 7 and 1/2 years. > > About Katweji's opinion I tend to agree with him. Saturn casts his > shadow three months before he enters a house and gives results,for > the previous house, just as he crosses in to a house. Now as he in > the 11th before actual transit to 12th he is aspecting 1st house and > so, Katweji's statement holds sense. Though whether to treat the > effect commencing from 15 degrees in previous house would depend on > the speed of his movement. > > This of course is my personal opinion and others more learned than > me might differ.> > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > Archives: vedic astrology> > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-> > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......> > > > Terms of Service.------------------------ Sponsor ---------------------~-->Get a FREE REFINANCE QUOTE - click here!http://us.click./2CXtTB/ca0FAA/i5gGAA/.8XolB/TM---~->Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......Your use of is subject to Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Attachment: (application/msword) SADE SAATHI.doc [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Dear Ramanarayan, Thanks for writing, and letting everyone know that I initiated the discussion, I was blushing when I read that ). I think all of the learned members have thrown new light in revealing that Saturn need not be that bad and he is like a strict mentor who outwardly is cruel but inwardly has only pure intentions for our supreme growth. From everyone's post what I can gather is that if one develops patience, understands what Saturn is trying to say to us during sadesathi, then the evil outwardly results would mellow down as we master detachment. Thanks for the article that you wrote, it took me quite some time to understand since some of the words were too Greek for my limited intellect, nevertheless, I still got the message that you were trying to convey. I am sure everyone enjoyed it. Warm regards, Sushmita vedic astrology, rama narayanan <sree88ganesha> wrote: > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT > AUM GURUUBYO NAMAH > Dear Sushmita,members & Gurus, > Namaste, > In understanding Sadesathi and helping each other by way of knowledge sharing, members and Gurus have contributed to a great deal. I think Sushmita you initiated it. As a little squirrel i thought i can also share what i have. Saturn represents Alcohol in the Six weakness list. He teaches the lessons slowly but in a very laborious and effective manner. He makes one realise that no building is constructed just like that - it is constructed brick by brick. During his period he helps in bringing the Deva out of Devadas. My submission in this regard is in the word document attached. > Astrologically yours, > p.s.ramanarayanan. > sushmita34 <sushmita34> wrote: > Dear Mr. Chandrashekhar, > > I am so sorry in responding to your email with extreme delay, I can > only blame it on time lines. > I found your post very simple and effective; also by reading your > post most westerners who are unable to recite mantras can atleast > implement what is required by Saturn beforehand. > Thanks so much for the post, very beautifully explained, that's all I > can say. > > Warm regards, > > Sushmita > > > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > wrote: > > Dear Sushmita, > > Saturn generally gives loss of money/reputation/family generally > during the first 2and1/2 years.This is to teach a lesson in Humility. > You will find people start believing themselves to be superior on > account of one or other.Rest follows the pattern expressed in earlier > post. I think his intention is to show world in stark colours bereft > of Maya. > > The way to combat this would be to be equitable in Victory or > defeat and try to keep a balanced head on shoulder. Bloated egos > generally exagerate effects of Sade Sati as the higher you go the > greater distance that you fall. But one thing is to be remembered > that Saturn is dispassionate and views even those who gloat over > their being pious or religious or even philonthropists in the same > light as others. > > The saving grace is that Saturn generally does not kill but makes > one suffer during this time. > > Meditation would definitely help, but better remedy to give up > false ego so that the fall is not from greater heights. Whether one > is westerner or easterner does not make any difference to the Great > Teacher Saturn. > > The advantage of a sadesati is that it teaches one the value of > patience, and makes one mature. > > I hope this helps you in understanding effects of Sadesati better. > > Chandrashekhar. > > - > > sushmita34 > > vedic astrology > > Friday, April 11, 2003 12:05 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Sadesati > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar, > > > > Thanks so much for the explanation, does the lesson which Saturn > > teaches changes from house to house (bhava), I am presuming here > that > > life's lessons are different for each individual. > > I mean in effect can the lessons of life be divided into 12 > sections, > > just a thought here but maybe not correct. > > Also, I am trying to contemplate that if one knows the lesson > that is > > to be taught, one can meditate intensely and internally be ready > for > > it, thereby reducing the effect of Saturn. > > If this be true then westerners who can't recite mantras can use > this > > tool and help themselves from the harsh lessons of Sadesati. > > If the effects of saturn as your post mentioned starts few months > > before, so should the remedial measures be done before hand > rather > > than wait for Saturn to enter the 12th. Pls correct and reassure, > if > > needed as to whether my thought processes is on the right track. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Sushmita > > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > > wrote: > > > Dear Sushmita, > > > Sadesati is, as you said, said to operate wrt. Moon. Some also > > treat similar motion of Saturn wrt Lagna. Sadesati is bad for > those > > whose ascendant lord is enemy of Saturn, generally. Again, I > think, > > rather than number the time in one's life when sadesati arives is > > relevant. This is because saturn is powerful in late age, in its > > effects. The relevant dashas also exagerate or soften the impact > of > > sadesati. Anyway, to my way of thinking, sadesati is the time > when > > Saturn teaches the jataka about what is life in reality. When > Saturn > > is in 12th one tends to speculate or overspend and borrowbeyond > his > > means. When in 1st his thought process gets disturbed making him > take > > wrong decisions. When he enters 2nd house the money is all gone > and > > those who he thought were his friends fast disappear. But he > finds > > whom he thought his distractors standing by him. This is when he > > understands what is life and gains knowledge in real sense of the > > world. This is how I look at sadesati. Then he shifts to 3rd and > > progress of the Jataka starts, but he is able to retain what ever > he > > gains due to knowledge that Saturn has given in past 7 and 1/2 > years. > > > About Katweji's opinion I tend to agree with him. Saturn casts > his > > shadow three months before he enters a house and gives > results,for > > the previous house, just as he crosses in to a house. Now as he > in > > the 11th before actual transit to 12th he is aspecting 1st house > and > > so, Katweji's statement holds sense. Though whether to treat the > > effect commencing from 15 degrees in previous house would depend > on > > the speed of his movement. > > > This of course is my personal opinion and others more learned > than > > me might differ. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Sushmita, Namaste. We can take my example. I have attached my chart. I have Moon in Gemini, so my Sade-sati began in 2000. Before of course Saturn was transitting his natal position, which is also many times a difficult period, giving a lot of changes in the native's life. So from 2000 it may give some difficulties in career, although because natal Saturn is in Sabhaavastha, it may give some popularity or more people get to know me. Because Saturn considerably afflicts the area of dharma (he is debilitated and retrograde in the 9th house) and marriage (6th and 7th lord), I started wearing a ruby ring in Dec 2002. Also in May 2000 , a few months before the Sadesati set in, Bhagavan Sri Krishna came to me in the form of Shaligram silas, and now I worship daily several of Them. I think these things help to ease up the effect of Sade-sati, still i feel it, especially during the retrogrades of Saturn. Those who know me for some years will understand what I mean. Now in April this year Saturn entered Gemini, so now he gives more pressure on the mind, and in the 3rd phase he will also infleunce spirituality as he is transitting my 12th house. This will begin in Sept 2004 and end in November 2006. But then my Saturm mahadasa begins in Jan 2006, so for another 19 years he is there. What can we do? We can just learn to tolerate, and pray to Krishna to save us from the turmoil. At least Sani makes us always remember that we can never be comfortable and safe in the material world, and should not expect undisturbed material happiness and freedom from miseries at any time. Krishna says: duhkhaalayam asaasvatam, this material world is full of misery and temporary, therefore we should always fix uor mind on the Supreme Lord: Om tad vishnoh paramam padam sadaa pashyanti surayah ... Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - "sushmita34" <sushmita34 <vedic astrology> Friday, April 11, 2003 9:05 AM [vedic astrology] re: Sadesati > Dear Learned Gauranga, > > Extremely wonderful explanation. I am quite sure many on this list > would benefit from your reply. > > I really understood the lesson with the example of Lasagne, hope you > are feeling better now ) > > I think it would be better if we take any chart of your wish, which > is going through Sadesati as it would be more helpful in knwoing the > extent of the problem firsthand. I have written to Rageshwari who I > presume is going through Sadesati. If she is not, then anyone on this > list can venture his chart out for discussion provided someone who > has recently gone through sadesati and remembers the events/nature of > suffering. > I did try to call up a few friends who are going through sadesati but > their TOB wasn't reliable. > > > Warm regards, > > Sushmita. > > > vedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> > wrote: > > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > Dear Sushmita, > > > > Namaste. > > > > > > > > Sushmita: Which sign should we look at, the Moon sign ? or all > the 3 > > > signs. > > > > I guess all 3 signs should be checked, and thus you will get > specific > > tendencies during Saturn's transit in the 3 signs. Of course the > most > > determinant is the nature of the Moon's sign. > > > > > > > > Sushmita: Thanks for this reply, but then does it mean that in > its 30 > > > yr cycle it would be giving bad results in most of the places, > taking > > > into consideration transit effects, sadesati, 8th and 4th Saturn, > and > > > then AL, GL, and on other thoughts how much savings can the dasha > > > periods do when evil transits of Saturn are operating. > > > > Yes, some way or other, usually Saturn gives sorrow. Honestly, did > you have > > any day in your life when you were absolutely free from suffeing? > No. Maybe > > you just didn't notice it. Or the happiness was much greater than > the sorrow > > for that one day. But this is the nature of the material world, as > Krishna > > says. sukha-duhkha follow each other endlessly. For example > yesterday > > evening I ate a lot of Lasagne, which was very tasty (offered to > Krishna) > > but I ate too much, so I was feeling uncomfortable after it, and it > was > > difficult to res and wase up early in the morning. So in this way > for every > > enjoyment, you must accept some suffering as well. Therefore Saturn > always > > reminds us not to take too much effort to be happy here in the > material > > world, rather give up our attachments and surrender to Krishna. > > > > > > > > Sushmita : Gaurangaji, it would be real nice if you could have the > > > above mentioned mantras on your website, if I could type sanskrit > I > > > would be of help but alas my lack of that skill and schedules > don't > > > permit me, I hope many kind people from this list would come > forward > > > for this noble task. > > > > Yes, Vishnu Sahasranaama is already downloadable, but for Sri > suktam I need > > some more help. > > > > I give one version here, but the Sanskrit is far from perfection. > > > > > > SRI SUKTAM > > > > Om Hiranya Varnam Harineem > > Survanam Rajatas Rajam > > Chandraam Hiranmayim > > LakshmeEm Jatavedo Mamaavaha > > > > Sloka 1 > > O all-knowing fire-god (Agni), would you kindly propitiate > Mahalakshmi, the > > Goddess of prosperity, one whose body has the golden color; one who > is > > decked with gold and silver garlands; one whose sari is yellow > colored and > > one Whose face is like the full moon and whose eyes bless humanity > with > > soothing grace. O Jata Veda, the fire-god, kindly tell Her of our > > supplications. > > > > > > Taamma Aavaha Jaatavedo > > LakshmeEm Ananpagammineem > > Yasyaam Hiranmyam Vindeyam > > Gaam-Asvam Purusham-Aham > > > > Sloka 2 > > O, Agni, the great fire-god, with the blessings of Mahalakshmi, > wealth and > > prosperity, gold and cattle, horses and useful animals, family and > children > > and every type of prosperity will come to me. By the arrival of > Goddess > > Lakshmi in my home, the prosperity will be imperishable. Health, > friends, > > knowledge, everlasting peace and finally freedom -- all these types > of > > wealth will be mine by the arrival of the Universal Mother, > Lakshmi, into my > > home. > > > > > > Aswa-Poorvaam Ratha-MadhyaAm > > Hastinaada Prabhodineem > > Sriyam Deveem-Upahvahe > > Sreemaa Devirjushataam > > > > Sloka 3 > > That Goddess Lakshmi in whose procession the celestial horses and > the divine > > chariots are used, as the elephants roar the OM sound which pleases > that > > Goddess. She being Gajalakshmi or Lakshmi Who is worshiped by the > elephants. > > O Agni, I am invoking that power, the spouse of Vishnu. May I > attain Her > > grace. > > > > > > Kaamsosmkitaam Hiranya PraakaaraamAardraam > > Jvalenteem Truptaam Tarpayantim > > Padmastitaam PadmavarnaAm > > Taamihopahvaye Sriyam > > > > Sloka 4 > > One Who is sitting on the blossomed thousand-petalled lotus; one > whose body > > has the color of the lotus; may that great Goddess. The > compassionate, > > radiant, ever-smiling, fulfiller of all the desires of Her > votaries, hear my > > prayers. I invoke that Mother, Mahalakshmi of golden color. > > > > > > Candraamprabhassaam Yasasaajvalantim > > Sriyamloke Devajustamudharam > > Tam Padmineemim Saranamaham > > Prapadye Alakshmeerye > > Nasyatam twaam vrine > > > > Sloka 5 > > I invoke Mahalakshmi Who shines like the full moon and like > lightening. Her > > fame is all-pervading. Denizens of heaven constantly worship Her. > She is > > minificent. Her benevolent hands are like lotuses. I take refuge in > Her > > lotus feet. Let Her destroy my poverty forever. O Mother > Mahalakshmi, I take > > shelter at Your lotus feet. > > > > > > Aadityavarne TapasodhijaatoO > > Vanaspatistava Vrikshothabilvaha > > Tasya Phalaani Tapassaanudantu > > Maayaantaraayaastcha Baahyaa Alakshmehim > > > > Sloka 6 > > O Universal Mother, shining like the sun, it is through Your > penance that > > the holiest trees of Bilva and Tulasi are born. They symbolize the > tree of > > life. The fruit of that tree of life removes our poverty from both > within > > and without. In other words, bless us with inner light and outer > > independence and abundance. > > > > > > Upaitumaam Devasakhaha > > Keertishtcha Maninaa Saham > > Praddour-booto smit rastresmin > > Keerthimrudhim dadaatume > > > > Sloka 7 > > O Devi, the great Goddess, with Your blessings let Kubera, the > treasurer of > > the gods; his friend, Manibhadra, the protector of wealth, and > Keerti, the > > goddess of fame who was the daughter of Daksha Prajapati. > > > > > > Ksutipaasaamalaam JyesthaAm > > Alakshreem naasayaamyaham > > Abhootimasamriddhim cha > > Sarvadh Nirmuda me grihaat > > > > Sloka 8 > > That goddess of hunger and thirst, one who is reduced to a > skeleton; I would > > like the death of the goddess of poverty. O Mahalakshmi, may You > kindly > > drive away any fear of poverty and inauspiciousness from my home. > In other > > words, bless me always with abundance and joy. > > > > > > Gandhadvaraam duradharshaam > > Nitya Pushtaam Karishineem > > Eesvareehim sarvabhoottaanaam > > Taamihopahvaye Sriyam > > > > Sloka 9 > > I invoke that supreme Goddess Lakshmi to dwell in my home forever. > She is > > the supreme power of protection and Goddess of all the universes > and cosmic > > elements. She is Mother Earth, the bestower of great contentment. > Her > > blessings are bringing us the fragrance of the sandalwood paste. > May that > > Ishwari be ever present in me. > > > > > > Manashaha-Kaamamaakootim > > Vaachasatya masheemahi > > Pashoonam Roopamanasya > > Mayi Sreesrayataam Yasaha > > > > Sloka 10 > > May Mahalakshmi fulfill all my desires. May I attain perfection. > May my > > words come true. May I be bestowed with cattle, wealth, food, milk > and honey > > to share with all. May that Sri Devi come to my home in the form of > undying > > fame. > > > > > > Kardhamena Prajaabhuttaa Mayi > > Sambhava Kardhamam > > Sriyam Vaasayame KuleE > > Maataram Padma maalineem > > > > Sloka 11 > > We are the progeny of our forefather, Sage Kardama, who is one of > the sons > > of Goddess Lakshmi. We invoke that Sage Kardama to install in his > family the > > Universal Mother, Mahalakshmi, who is decked with the garland of > lotuses. So > > be it. > > > > > > Apahasrujantu Snigdhaani Chikleeta > > Vasa Me Gruhe > > Nicha deveem MaatarahamM Sriyam > > Vaasaya Me Kule > > > > Sloka 12 > > We invoke another son of Lakshmi named Chikleeta. May he dwell in > our home > > and may his mother, Mahalakshmi, dwell in our family. > > > > > > Ardraam Pushkarineem Pushtim > > Pingalaam Padmamalineem > > Chandramm Hirnamayeem LakshmeEm > > Jaatavedo Mamaavaha > > > > Sloka 13 > > O Agni, may You propitiate Mahalakshmi, the destroyer of demons but > merciful > > to Her devotees, abode of auspiciousness, bestower of total > protection, > > extraordinarily beautiful, bedecked with valuable ornaments, > shining like a > > thousand suns; may that Hiranmayi, the golden colored Goddess, be > pleased > > with us. > > > > > > Ardraam Yah-Karineem yastiIm > > Survarnaam Hemamaalineem > > Sooruyamm Hirnamayeem LakshmeEm > > Jaatavedo Mamaavaha > > > > Sloka 14 > > O Agni, the fire-god, I once again pray unto you to invoke the > presence of > > the Lakshmi Devi with us. The Mother Who is merciful blessings with > Her > > lotus hand. May that yellow-clad, lotus-garlanded, moon-faced > Goddess shower > > Her choicest cup of blessings upon us. > > > > > > Taama Aavaah JaatavedoO > > Lakshmmeemanapa-gamineem > > Yasyam Hiranyam Prabhootam Gaavo > > Daasyoshvam Vindeyam Purushanaham > > > > Sloka 15 > > O Agni, please pray to that Lakshmi that we should be blessed with > > inexhaustible wealth. May that wealth bring that greatest joy and > peace > > along with all material comforts of cows, servants, horses, family > and good > > children, and the highest of all, freedom. > > > > > > Om Mahalakshmyai cha Vidmahe Vishnu > > Patnyaicha Dhimahi > > Taano LakshmihiprachodayaAta > > Om Shanti Shanti Shantihi > > > > Sloka 16 > > Let that Mahalakshmi be invoked on Whom I meditate upon, Who is the > consort > > of Lord Vishnu, the Supreme Mother. Let peace prevail everywhere. > > > > > > > Another query comes to my mind here, what if a westerner is going > > > through the sadesati, she/he would not be able to recite the > mantras, > > > how can we help such a native. I mean for vedic astrology to grow > > > into a global science spreading across continents, can we have > some > > > form of effective remedies which anyone can do irrespective of > > > caste , creed and background. > > > > Well, I'm not really in favor of westernizing things. If we > practice Vedic > > astrology, we are supposed to accept Vedic philosophy, culture and > > religiousness, so we can advice worship according to Vedic > standards. Of > > course this requires proper understanding and guidance from a Guru. > If we > > want to advise worship of Devatas based on the chart, then we can > do it > > according to the native's culture, i.e. christianity etc. however > this would > > require a deeper knowledge of that religious tradition. > > > > > > > Sushmita: Sir, does it also mean that one needs to look at all > > > Divisional charts, I presume one would be then running Sadesati in > > > say D-10, although she/he might not be running sadesati in D-1. > > > Furthering on this thought process, I presume one would be running > > > sadesati in several areas of one's life at any point of time. > > > I also do understand that other considerations that you have > > > mentioned are to be taken into account. I would like to ask a > favor > > > here, can you expand on how exactly to interpret the diff > Avasthas to > > > sadesati, Vedhas and all the other imp points that you have > mentioned > > > in this article of yours with any example chart, it really would > help > > > beginners like me to learn the science systematically and learning > > > how to see several points all at the same time. Theory with > example > > > really helps the theory to seep in the mind. > > > > Primary rule is to consider Sade-sathi in Rasi. D-charts are always > > subordinate to Rashi. So a Saturn'transit over the Moon in a D- > chart alone > > will not give such a stroneg effect. As for the rest of the > factors, yes, > > I'm willing to take up an example chart analysis. Please give your > chart or > > a chart of your choice. > > > > > Thanks for your post and also in advance for your article. > > > Many thanks to others who have contributed and whom I have not > named > > > here. > > > > Yours, > > > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > gauranga@b... > > Jyotish Remedies: > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > ---- > PrimPosta e-mail egy eletre! > Attachment: [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Dear Mr. T.V. Rao, Please send me the shani mantra too at my personal email id neeraj It's my sadhesati running, so i will recite them sometimes. neeraj --- tvrao_agd <tvrao_agd wrote: > dear mr. shankar, > > let me know you email address so that i can send you > shani mantras recitation in real media format. it is > a 981 kb file and i don't want to flood the group > space by sending the same to group address. > > t. v. rao > > - > Shankar > vedic astrology > Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:09 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati > > > Dear Gaurangaji, Rageshwariji and others, > > I have following questions regarding Saturn. > Please help me: > > 1)In general, what is/are the ways (remedy) to > lessen affliction by natal Saturn? > 2)Should I recite the beeja mantra of Saturn? > 3)What are the other ways to remedy affliction of > Saturn in natal kundali? (I have no temple nearby my > city.) > 4)From what site I can get english text/audio of > mantras used to lessen saturn's affliction? > > Thanks in advance and regards > S. > > vedic astrology, Gauranga > Das <gauranga@b...> wrote: > > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > Just a few thoughts to add to others' brilliant > responses. > > - > > Sushmita S > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:18 PM > > [vedic astrology] Sadesati > > > > > > Dear Learned members, > > > > Just saw some posts on the transit of Saturn, > although I am not running SadeSati, could someone > answer a few queries here re this dreaded transit. > Although I am sure, this same query might have been > asked numerous times, but I couldn't find any > lessons on this in the archives. > > > > 1. Is every Sa........................ > Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and > more > Sponsor > > > > Archives: > vedic astrology > > Group info: > vedic astrology/info.html > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to > vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri > Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > Terms of Service. > > ===== http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/ The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingo http://search. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 16, 2003 Report Share Posted April 16, 2003 Dear Shri Ramanarayanan, Thank you so much for the absolutely wonderful and educative write- up on Sade Sati. I write as I have been cornered from all sides from Shani with absolutely no movement in life. It does teach a lot. Best Regards, NCG vedic astrology, rama narayanan <sree88ganesha> wrote: > > SARVAM GYANANANDAMAYAM JAGAT > AUM GURUUBYO NAMAH > Dear Sushmita,members & Gurus, > Namaste, > In understanding Sadesathi and helping each other by way of knowledge sharing, members and Gurus have contributed to a great deal. I think Sushmita you initiated it. As a little squirrel i thought i can also share what i have. Saturn represents Alcohol in the Six weakness list. He teaches the lessons slowly but in a very laborious and effective manner. He makes one realise that no building is constructed just like that - it is constructed brick by brick. During his period he helps in bringing the Deva out of Devadas. My submission in this regard is in the word document attached. > Astrologically yours, > p.s.ramanarayanan. > sushmita34 <sushmita34> wrote: > Dear Mr. Chandrashekhar, > > I am so sorry in responding to your email with extreme delay, I can > only blame it on time lines. > I found your post very simple and effective; also by reading your > post most westerners who are unable to recite mantras can atleast > implement what is required by Saturn beforehand. > Thanks so much for the post, very beautifully explained, that's all I > can say. > > Warm regards, > > Sushmita > > > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > wrote: > > Dear Sushmita, > > Saturn generally gives loss of money/reputation/family generally > during the first 2and1/2 years.This is to teach a lesson in Humility. > You will find people start believing themselves to be superior on > account of one or other.Rest follows the pattern expressed in earlier > post. I think his intention is to show world in stark colours bereft > of Maya. > > The way to combat this would be to be equitable in Victory or > defeat and try to keep a balanced head on shoulder. Bloated egos > generally exagerate effects of Sade Sati as the higher you go the > greater distance that you fall. But one thing is to be remembered > that Saturn is dispassionate and views even those who gloat over > their being pious or religious or even philonthropists in the same > light as others. > > The saving grace is that Saturn generally does not kill but makes > one suffer during this time. > > Meditation would definitely help, but better remedy to give up > false ego so that the fall is not from greater heights. Whether one > is westerner or easterner does not make any difference to the Great > Teacher Saturn. > > The advantage of a sadesati is that it teaches one the value of > patience, and makes one mature. > > I hope this helps you in understanding effects of Sadesati better. > > Chandrashekhar. > > - > > sushmita34 > > vedic astrology > > Friday, April 11, 2003 12:05 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Sadesati > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekar, > > > > Thanks so much for the explanation, does the lesson which Saturn > > teaches changes from house to house (bhava), I am presuming here > that > > life's lessons are different for each individual. > > I mean in effect can the lessons of life be divided into 12 > sections, > > just a thought here but maybe not correct. > > Also, I am trying to contemplate that if one knows the lesson > that is > > to be taught, one can meditate intensely and internally be ready > for > > it, thereby reducing the effect of Saturn. > > If this be true then westerners who can't recite mantras can use > this > > tool and help themselves from the harsh lessons of Sadesati. > > If the effects of saturn as your post mentioned starts few months > > before, so should the remedial measures be done before hand > rather > > than wait for Saturn to enter the 12th. Pls correct and reassure, > if > > needed as to whether my thought processes is on the right track. > > > > Warm regards, > > > > Sushmita > > > > vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > > wrote: > > > Dear Sushmita, > > > Sadesati is, as you said, said to operate wrt. Moon. Some also > > treat similar motion of Saturn wrt Lagna. Sadesati is bad for > those > > whose ascendant lord is enemy of Saturn, generally. Again, I > think, > > rather than number the time in one's life when sadesati arives is > > relevant. This is because saturn is powerful in late age, in its > > effects. The relevant dashas also exagerate or soften the impact > of > > sadesati. Anyway, to my way of thinking, sadesati is the time > when > > Saturn teaches the jataka about what is life in reality. When > Saturn > > is in 12th one tends to speculate or overspend and borrowbeyond > his > > means. When in 1st his thought process gets disturbed making him > take > > wrong decisions. When he enters 2nd house the money is all gone > and > > those who he thought were his friends fast disappear. But he > finds > > whom he thought his distractors standing by him. This is when he > > understands what is life and gains knowledge in real sense of the > > world. This is how I look at sadesati. Then he shifts to 3rd and > > progress of the Jataka starts, but he is able to retain what ever > he > > gains due to knowledge that Saturn has given in past 7 and 1/2 > years. > > > About Katweji's opinion I tend to agree with him. Saturn casts > his > > shadow three months before he enters a house and gives > results,for > > the previous house, just as he crosses in to a house. Now as he > in > > the 11th before actual transit to 12th he is aspecting 1st house > and > > so, Katweji's statement holds sense. Though whether to treat the > > effect commencing from 15 degrees in previous house would depend > on > > the speed of his movement. > > > This of course is my personal opinion and others more learned > than > > me might differ. > > > Chandrashekhar. > > > > > > > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to > > > Catch all the cricket action. Download Score tracker Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted April 17, 2003 Report Share Posted April 17, 2003 Dear Mr. Rao, Kindly send me the mantras too at ramesh.gangaramani (AT) ae (DOT) york.com. I am in last phase of Shani mahadasa. 1st Sadesati seems to have passed w/o my realising the impact. (I had no knowledge of astrology then). May go through second after a while. Regards Ramesh --- tvrao_agd <tvrao_agd (AT) sancharnet (DOT) in> wrote:> dear mr. shankar,> > let me know you email address so that i can send you> shani mantras recitation in real media format. it is> a 981 kb file and i don't want to flood the group> space by sending the same to group address.> > t. v. rao> > ----- Original Message ----- > Shankar > vedic astrology > Sent: Thursday, April 10, 2003 2:09 PM> Re: [vedic astrology] Sadesati> > > Dear Gaurangaji, Rageshwariji and others,> > I have following questions regarding Saturn.> Please help me:> > 1)In general, what is/are the ways (remedy) to> lessen affliction by natal Saturn?> 2)Should I recite the beeja mantra of Saturn?> 3)What are the other ways to remedy affliction of> Saturn in natal kundali? (I have no temple nearby my> city.)> 4)From what site I can get english text/audio of> mantras used to lessen saturn's affliction? > > Thanks in advance and regards> S.> > --- In vedic astrology, Gauranga> Das <gauranga@b...> wrote:> > JAYA JAGANNATHA!> > > > Just a few thoughts to add to others' brilliant> responses.> > - > > Sushmita S > > vedic astrology > > Wednesday, April 09, 2003 2:18 PM> > [vedic astrology] Sadesati> > > > > > Dear Learned members,> > > > Just saw some posts on the transit of Saturn,> although I am not running SadeSati, could someone> answer a few queries here re this dreaded transit.> Although I am sure, this same query might have been> asked numerous times, but I couldn't find any> lessons on this in the archives.> > > > 1. Is every Sa........................ > Tax Center - File online, calculators, forms, and> more > Sponsor > > > > Archives:> vedic astrology> > Group info:>vedic astrology/info.html> > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to> vedic astrology-> > > > || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri> Krishnaarpanamastu || > > Your use of is subject to the > Terms of Service. > > =====http://www.geocities.com/master_minds_india/Do you ?The New Search - Faster. Easier. Bingohttp://search.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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