Chandrashekhar ji's puzzle (Fw: Working Out Astrological Puzzles)

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Om Sreem Suragurave Brihaspataye Namah

Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

 

> Sorry I forgot to include my data. It is below.> Date of Birth: 26th Jan.1946,

Time 04.20hr.s Place of Birth :Chandrapur.> India. Long:79E18 Latt:19N57. Time

Zone 5.30 East of GMT.> Waiting for analysis.

Before venturing to give any analysis, let me convince myself first that the birthdata is reliable.

 

(1) Your D-20 lagna is on a sign border. Let us assume that the D-20 lagna in Sc

is correct. Tell me if they are reasonable statements.

 

(1a) Then Saturn in 4th in Aq suggests that there is a well-known Kali or Vishnu

or Panduranga temple near your birthplace (or some other deity represented by

Saturn).

 

(1b) In the same D-20, Sun is in Sg in the 2nd house and Jupiter aspects him. It

shows that Shiva is the Kula devata. Atleast there can be upasana of Shiva in

your Kula (family/tradition).

 

(1c) In the same D-20, the 9th lord Moon is exalted in 7th with Mercury. It

shows a good spiritual (D-20) relationship (7th) with a compassionate, kind

(Moon) and very knowledgable (Mercury) teacher (9th).

 

(2) The above will help in verifying the backward correction. To verify any

forward correction, D-12 is a good candidate, because lagna is at 4.5 deg and

is just below a D-12 sign border.

 

I can say the following about your father, based on your D-12. Tell me if they

are reasonable statements.

 

(2a) From Virgo (9th house in D-12), Mercury is lagna and 10th lord in 5th. Your

father is a very learned and honorable man who was respected by the society.

 

(2b) From Virgo, the 9th lord is in 9th with 12th lord Sun and aspected by

Jupiter. Your father is a religious person and perhaps worshipped Shiva (Sun)

or the Mother (Venus). But Rahu in 12th and Venus in 9th shows some

materialistic motivations even in religious practices.

 

(2c) The 8th lord Mars is in 8th with Saturn. Your father worked hard throughout

his life (Saturn in 8th) and faced obstacles.

 

(2d) He was very straight-forward and did not fear anybody (Mars giving Sarala

yoga in 8th). He may have also been into occult sciences.

 

(2e) Jupiter is in 3rd. Your father was an optimist. He is happy, well-mannered

and carries a positive energy.

 

(2f) Rahu is in 12th and 12th lord is in 9th. He (your father) may have lost his

father early or had a somewhat poor relation with him.

 

(2g) Rahu is in 12th and Sun is with Venus. Your father may have had some problems with eyes.

 

(2h) Ketu is in 6th. Some occult powers and good intuition are possible. He has no enemies.

 

(3) I can say the following things about your mother, based on your D-12. Tell

me if they are reasonable statements.

 

(3a) Aries is the 4th house in D-12. From Aries, Mars in lagna gives Ruchaka

yoga. Your mother is a good organizer and a good leader.

 

(3b) From Aries, the 9th lord Jupiter is in 8th. She may have some

atheistic/rationalistic attitude, despite being religious.

 

(3c) Moon is in the 3rd house. She is very cheerful. Venus is in own sign in

2nd. She is very talkative.

 

(3d) Rahu is in 5th. Some heart troubles or digestive troubles are possible.

 

I will stop here. Based on your feedback, I may have to change the lagna and ask you more questions.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

PS: Even in the correction mail, you still gave 13 Nov 2003 as the event date.

This date hasn't passed yet. Please give the correct date.

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- Chandrashekhar

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

Saturday, April 05, 2003 12:50 AM

Re: Chandrashekhar ji's puzzle (Re: Fw: Working Out Astrological Puzzles)

Dear Narasimharaoji,

I thought I gave the date of 2nd incident or happening as 13th Nov. 2002. I am

sorry about the wrong date given.

Your acumen in prediction is really great, as I think I understand what you say

about your father's way about predictions.I too prefer to use Natal, Navamsha

and Vimshottary dasha to enable me to predict. As a matter of curiosity, did

he, also, need to be able to see a chart in front of him in order to predict?

Many astrologers remember a chart once shown and can predict later with

actually visualising the chart. Sorry for any inconvinience. I am also posting

the corrected date on the list.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

Chandrashekhar

Friday, April 04, 2003 8:10 AM

Re: Chandrashekhar ji's puzzle (Re: Fw: Working Out Astrological Puzzles)

Namaste,

 

Thanks for the feedback. I think the data is accurate enough.

 

I will attempt the main puzzle tomorrow. But you haven't yet clarified the

correct event date for event 2. The date you gave is in future, even after an

attempted correction mail!

 

As these questions and answers don't relate to the main puzzle anyway, it will

actually be fine to post your answers on the list.

 

Yes, I understood your intention. As for me, I don't mind criticism. People

praise when you are right and they blast you when you go wrong. That doesn't

matter to me. What matters to me is whether I am getting closer to the Complete

Truth or not.

 

My father is also like you. He also has Mercury and Venus in 2nd and Moon in

11th. He uses only rasi, navamsa, nakshatras and Vimsottari dasa (but he is

glad that I am employing more of the teachings of sages in my studies). He is a

brilliant astrologer with excellent vaak suddhi. He is my first guru. He never

charged fee from anyone and only took what was voluntarily offered. He was a

great role model for me.

 

Best regards,

Narasimha

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Om Sreem Suragurave Brihaspataye Namah

Namaste friends,

 

Chandrashekhar ji gave me feedback by personal mail and he certified most of the

statements below to be correct. So I consider the birthdata to be reasonably

accurate. The given birthtime is 4:20. Based on the feedback on my D-20 and

D-12 readings, it is clear that the birthtime is between 4:19:59 and 4:22:11.

We have narrowed it down to a 2-minute window. Usually, in charts from 1940's,

we even see 10 min or 15 min errors. So I gave some readings and wanted the

feedback. Based on the feedback, the data is accurate enough to proceed

further. His feedback that there is a locally popular temple of mother Kali

near his birthplace (in response to point 1a below) clearly establishes that

the D-20 lagna is right, i.e. the birthtime is not earlier than 4:19:59. As

most of the readings on his parents are correct, D-12 lagna must also be right,

i.e. the birthtime is not after 4:22:11.

 

Now I will proceed further to solve the puzzle.

 

Event 1:

 

In the natal rasi chart, Moon is the 8th lord in A8. He is with Gulika and

Mandi. His antardasa was running at the time of the event. In the annual Tithi

Pravesha chart of 1974-75, again Sg rises and Moon is the 8th lord in A8 (data:

16 Jan 1974, 5:1:15 am). This time, he is the dispositor of Gulika and Mandi.

His annual Tithi Ashtottari dasa was running during Feb-March 1974.

 

Overall, it looks like the 8th house results would've been given then. Some

obstacles or ill-health or accidents or some such problem is indicated. Moon is

in 8th in D-16 and a vehicular accident is also possible. In any case, the event

is mostly 8th house related. Moon is in Swati nakshatra (in the annual TP chart)

and Rahu is in lagna. So some physical suffering may have been involved.

 

Event 2:

 

In the annual TP chart of 2002-03, Ar rises in D-7 (data: 5 Feb 2002, 10:30:27

am). The 5th lord Sun is in Sg. So we take Sg as the lagna to give the results

in the life of the eldest child. Rahu antardasa in Rahu dasa was running on Nov

14, as per annual Tithi Ashtottari dasa. So the result was related to Rahu.

 

In D-7, Rahu is in 7th from Sg. If the 3rd lord is in 7th, he can give marriage

or a long journey. With 9th lord Sun in lagna and lagna lord Jupiter in 9th

with 7th lord, marriage and/or a foreign journey are possible events for the

child. Rahu can give those results.

 

In rasi chart, Rahu is with Jupiter and gives Jupiter's results. Jupiter is the

9th lord in A5 and shows some dharmik events related to child.

 

So my guess is that your child got married on that day. My second guess would be a long travel.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

-

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

vedic astrology

Wednesday, April 02, 2003 1:16 AM

Chandrashekhar ji's puzzle (Re: Fw: Working Out Astrological Puzzles)

Om Sreem Suragurave Brihaspataye Namah

Namaste Chandrashekhar ji,

 

> Sorry I forgot to include my data. It is below.> Date of Birth: 26th Jan.1946,

Time 04.20hr.s Place of Birth :Chandrapur.> India. Long:79E18 Latt:19N57. Time

Zone 5.30 East of GMT.> Waiting for analysis.

Before venturing to give any analysis, let me convince myself first that the birthdata is reliable.

 

(1) Your D-20 lagna is on a sign border. Let us assume that the D-20 lagna in Sc

is correct. Tell me if they are reasonable statements.

 

(1a) Then Saturn in 4th in Aq suggests that there is a well-known Kali or Vishnu

or Panduranga temple near your birthplace (or some other deity represented by

Saturn).

 

(1b) In the same D-20, Sun is in Sg in the 2nd house and Jupiter aspects him. It

shows that Shiva is the Kula devata. Atleast there can be upasana of Shiva in

your Kula (family/tradition).

 

(1c) In the same D-20, the 9th lord Moon is exalted in 7th with Mercury. It

shows a good spiritual (D-20) relationship (7th) with a compassionate, kind

(Moon) and very knowledgable (Mercury) teacher (9th).

 

(2) The above will help in verifying the backward correction. To verify any

forward correction, D-12 is a good candidate, because lagna is at 4.5 deg and

is just below a D-12 sign border.

 

I can say the following about your father, based on your D-12. Tell me if they

are reasonable statements.

 

(2a) From Virgo (9th house in D-12), Mercury is lagna and 10th lord in 5th. Your

father is a very learned and honorable man who was respected by the society.

 

(2b) From Virgo, the 9th lord is in 9th with 12th lord Sun and aspected by

Jupiter. Your father is a religious person and perhaps worshipped Shiva (Sun)

or the Mother (Venus). But Rahu in 12th and Venus in 9th shows some

materialistic motivations even in religious practices.

 

(2c) The 8th lord Mars is in 8th with Saturn. Your father worked hard throughout

his life (Saturn in 8th) and faced obstacles.

 

(2d) He was very straight-forward and did not fear anybody (Mars giving Sarala

yoga in 8th). He may have also been into occult sciences.

 

(2e) Jupiter is in 3rd. Your father was an optimist. He is happy, well-mannered

and carries a positive energy.

 

(2f) Rahu is in 12th and 12th lord is in 9th. He (your father) may have lost his

father early or had a somewhat poor relation with him.

 

(2g) Rahu is in 12th and Sun is with Venus. Your father may have had some problems with eyes.

 

(2h) Ketu is in 6th. Some occult powers and good intuition are possible. He has no enemies.

 

(3) I can say the following things about your mother, based on your D-12. Tell

me if they are reasonable statements.

 

(3a) Aries is the 4th house in D-12. From Aries, Mars in lagna gives Ruchaka

yoga. Your mother is a good organizer and a good leader.

 

(3b) From Aries, the 9th lord Jupiter is in 8th. She may have some

atheistic/rationalistic attitude, despite being religious.

 

(3c) Moon is in the 3rd house. She is very cheerful. Venus is in own sign in

2nd. She is very talkative.

 

(3d) Rahu is in 5th. Some heart troubles or digestive troubles are possible.

 

I will stop here. Based on your feedback, I may have to change the lagna and ask you more questions.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

PS: Even in the correction mail, you still gave 13 Nov 2003 as the event date.

This date hasn't passed yet. Please give the correct date.