Fw: Fw: Working Out Astrological Puzzles

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Dear Praveenkumar,

Sorry I forgot to include my data. It is below.Date of Birth: 26th Jan.1946,

Time 04.20hr.s Place of Birth :Chandrapur.India. Long:79E18 Latt:19N57. Time

Zone 5.30 East of GMT.Waiting for analysis.Chandrashekhar.

- Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 31, 2003 11:45 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Fw: Working Out Astrological Puzzles

Dear Praveenkumar,

I would not have interefered being a student of astrology, but looking at the

tone and content of your response to Narasimha Rao, I could not resist.

Since you swear by a method to the detriments and as you say "I do concede that

translating planetary message into actual life events is most difficult task

but at the same time this is the only touchstone of one's predictive ability

and most crucial in revival of astrology as a great science.", I am enclosing

details of a chart from which could comment on events that occured on

1)Feb.1974 and 2) November 13 2003 ?

First relates to the native and second to his progeny. If this is not posssible

could you comment on the Job/profession of the native.

The chart is mine and I would like you to try the "infalliable" KN Rao method

that you are trying to ipropogate, on this chart.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Praveen Kumar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 31, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Fw: Working Out Astrological Puzzles

Dear Narasimhaji,

I too feel that 'dared' word was not appropriate and I am really very sorry for

that. However, I do admit that it was not unintentional.

I am a member of this list for past one year and haven't seen much fruitful

discussions which may sharpen our predictive ability. There are long question

answer sessions on different concepts say, Atmakaraka, Ishtadevata,

Maranakaraka etc. But we find little here which can strengthen our faith in

astrology as a predictive science which it is. We argue for seven or eight

Jaimini karakas, but never take pain to test the concepts fruitfully. That is

why there are so many controversies in astrology. I do concede that translating

planetary message into actual life events is most difficult task but at the same

time this is the only touchstone of one's predictive ability and most crucial in

revival of astrology as a great science. There are numerous such lists, hundreds

of 'big astrologers' and thousands of books all claiming superiority over

others. But most of them confine themselves to their vested interests.

 

It is my firm opinion that to establish credibility of astrology and to infuse

faith in and gain confidence of fellow students, seniors and gurus must

exemplify their predictive competence through such blind readings or publicly

predicting about future events. We can judge it then after giving discount for

natural likelihood or probability of such events. We should try to point out

some major trends of one's life ourselves. Post-mortem analysis leads us

nowhere and contending groups may keep on arguing all through their life

without coming to a meaningful conclusion. I have had very frustrating

experience with many 'big astrologers' when they tried to read a chart without

knowing about the person concerned. I was satisfied only (among those I have

seen personally) with the working style of Shri K.N.Rao and found him

remarkably accurate most of the times. I do advocate his approach for everyone

genuienly interested in astrolgy and for its cause.

 

However, I appreciate your genuine interest in this divine science and your

efforts for its upliftment keeping aside personal ego. I do request you to

maintain and encourage such trends.

 

Praveen Kumar (Mumbai, India)

 

-

Narasimha P.V.R. Rao

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 30, 2003 12:13 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: Fw: Working Out Astrological Puzzles

Namaste Praveen ji,

 

> Among those attempted, Narasimha may be said to be nearest.

> Among Gurus, he was the only one who dared to attempt it.

 

Some gurus do attempt puzzles here. If they leave a puzzle, it can be because

they suspect the correctness of the data or simply don't have time. In any

case, "dare" is a somewhat inappropriate word in this context.

 

I was also very skeptical about the data. In the D-24 chart, lagna lord was in

8th with Rahu and Ketu, suggesting poor education, but rasi and D-10 charts

seemed to show a successful and wealthy lady. It did not even look like

somebody born in a rich family. How can then she be successful despite poor

education? Overall, it did not seem to fit. I thought there was some error. So

I was very tentative and did not even say anything on the first question on

D-24.

 

Now that you gave the answer, it all makes sense. I think the data is reasonably accurate.

 

> The chart belongs to one Bollywood Actress who herself had

> handed over the birth details to me. She belongs to a middle

> class family and onset of Mercury dasa changed her fortunes

> radically. As per my observations, TOB must be correct,

> more or less.

 

I just have a few comments to make. She was born in Sukla paksha in Sun's hora.

So Shodasottari dasa applies. Rahu is the governor of this dasa. He is the 9th

lord from lagna and is in 8th. He is in 5th from AL. He shows success, fortune

and sudden rise. He is in exalted Sun's nakshatra and occupies the 7th from

Moon. So he represents the desire for power. That will be the main theme of

life and events related to the theme will captured by Shodasottari dasa well.

 

Shodasottari dasa (applicable if lagna in Moon's hora in Krishna paksha or in

Sun's hora in Sukla paksha):

 

Ket MD: 1986-10-05 (10:50:40) - 2001-10-05 (7:07:23)

 

Antardasas in this MD:

 

Ket: 1986-10-05 (10:50:40) - 1988-09-12 (18:44:51) Moo: 1988-09-12 (18:44:51)

- 1990-10-08 (14:57:03) Mer: 1990-10-08 (14:57:03) - 1992-12-18 (3:58:13) Ven:

1992-12-18 (3:58:13) - 1995-04-14 (20:53:11) Sun: 1995-04-14 (20:53:11) -

1996-09-19 (4:45:47) Mar: 1996-09-19 (4:45:47) - 1998-04-05 (3:52:15) Jup:

1998-04-05 (3:52:15) - 1999-12-12 (20:35:44) Sat: 1999-12-12 (20:35:44) -

2001-10-05 (7:07:23)

 

Ketu is in the 2nd house with Moon and will give Moon's results. He is in 11th

from AL. So he gives a lot of money and financial gains. In D-10, he is the 2nd

lord and occupies 8th. He rules over sustenance and shows sudden rise. Being

placed in the 12th from AL, he gives success (12th fropm AL is a good placement

from Ketu). He shows excellent success that comes suddenly (8th house

placement).

 

Mercury is in the 5th house from lagna. He is the AL lord placed in the 9th

house from AL. From Ketu, he is the 5th lord in 10th. So Mercury antardasa in

Ketu dasa must've been a great antardasa. It must've brought a turning point in

her life (1991-1992).

 

Venus is the owner of lagna as well as 8th and shows mixed results, being in

badhaka sthana. He is with Mars in A3 and A8, in the 3rd from AL. He gets the

maleficence of Mars and gives good results in the 3rd from AL. He gives

material success in career. Being in A3, he gives physical acts that are

considered to be manifestations of her boldness (e.g. starting a venture, doing

a controversial scene in a movie etc). With the planets involved with A3 in the

3rd from AL being Venus and Mars, this could relate to matters of sex or

perhaps an affair with a co-star. In any case, some bold acts are possible in

Venus antardasa (1993-1995). Though Venus with Mars gives success (3rd from AL)

due to these bold acts (A3), he also gives problems in career (due to being in

A8 too). A8 is called mrityu pada and shows death (in career). So some

controversies/scandals/affairs make her popular/successful, but also threaten

her career.

 

Sun is well-placed in AL in D-10. He is in the 2nd house from Ketu and aspects

5th. Moreover, he occupies A5 in D-10 (along with AL). He shows popularity. He

is exalted in rasi. Thus, Sun antardasa in Ketu dasa may have brought the peak

of her career (1995-1996).

 

Mars is maraka (2nd and 7th lord) in D-10 and afflicts lagna lord in badhaka

sthana. His antardasa may have brought her fall (1997-1998). At the same time,

this antardasa may have brought some business activities (Mars is the 7th

lord). Mars is in Leo with argala from Sun, in the 11th house of friends (all

in D-10). Thus she may have made friendship with some influential people in

this antaradasa.

 

Anyway, I'll stop here. I just wanted to try the conditional dasa as it is applicable in this chart.

 

BTW, 2004-2006 is a good time for the lady's career. There is some chance that

the second round of recognition will come to her, though not as big as the

first time.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

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