Atmakaraka position????

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Please see the statement regarding counting of signs to find out results of the

house the AK is placed in. Is it that you count the number of signs from AK to

Navamsa lagna ( In Navamsa chart) or Vice Versa?

eg: Navamsa lagna is Leo & AK is in Virgo( 2nd house in navamsa chart) will you

count the results as in 2nd house or 12th house?

Just an honest query.

Best regards,

Fayyaz

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Dear Jyotisha,

 

Can anyone tell me where can i get a reference about the

position of chara atmakaraka in each houses in a chart?

For example if someone had his /her AK in 9th house both

in rasi and navamsa.

 

Thanks & Regards

 

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Here is Pandit Sanjay Rath's words on Chara Atma Karaka.

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CHARA ATMA KARAKASanjay Rath

 

Among the eight chara karakas, the planet with the highest degree is the

Atmakaraka. The sign/navamsa occupied by the Atmakaraka gives us a clue as to

the desire of the Atma and the nature of the Atmakaraka gives us vital

information about the nature of the Atma and its spiritual development.

1. If a malefic planet is the Atmakaraka, it indicates a high level of spiritual

development whereas a benefic planet as the Atmakaraka indicates a relatively

lower level. For example, Rahu is the Atmakaraka for Srila Prabhupada and

Ramakrishna Paramhamsa.

2. The Atmakaraka invariably indicates suffering during its Vimsottari Dasa,

especially if a malefic. During the Narayana dasa of the sign occupied by the

Atmakaraka or those aspecting it, great achievements are made. If the native is

spiritually inclined, then the dasa of the Atmakaraka can be beneficial.

3. A retrograde Atmakaraka indicates a deep rooted desire as being the cause of the birth.

4. Planets as Atmakaraka:

SUN as the AK indicates that the native has to learn to overcome his ego and

should become humble.MOON as the AK indicates that the native should be very

caring and compassionate.MARS as the AK indicates that the native should

refrain from all forms of violence and stick to the path of Ahimsa.MERCURY as

AK indicates that the native should control his speech and be truthful at all

times.JUPITER as AK indicates that the native should always respect the Guru,

husband and care for the children.VENUS as AK indicates that the native must

have a very clean character and refrain from illegimate sex or lust.SATURN as

AK indicates that the native cannot give sorrow to others and will have to

share the sorrow of many others.RAHU as AK indicates that the native may be

cheated often and will still have to be free from guile and be clean hearted.

5. Maharishi Jaimini has indicated the results of various navamsa for the

placement of AK. Read this carefully and make a list for ready reference.6.

Results of AK in different houses from Navamsa Lagna.

(Count the number of signs from AK to Navamsa Lagna. This number will indicate

the results of the house that shall predominate. Check the strength of Karaka

of such house. Do this exercise both in Rasi and in Navamsa chart. Rasi chart

results like that of Sri Krishna and other great persons while navamsa for all

others)

1. If AK is in Navamsa Lagna, the native belongs to a royal family/is of noble

birth and lineage. If Navamsa Lagna Lord conjoins AK, then the native, although

of humble origin, shall rise to a high rank equal to a king. If the AK aspects

Navamsa Lagna, then Royal association shall be present from birth. The natural

karaka of the 1st house (Sun) should be strong to indicate the extent of

Raja-yoga.2. If AK is in 2nd house, the native shall be very spiritual and a

great saint. If Saturn is strong, the renunciation shall be complete whereas if

Venus is strong, the native shall perform severe austerities.3. If AK is in the

3rd house, the native shall be rich and successful in many undertakings. He

shall be a friend of many powerful people.4. If AK is in the 4th house, the

native shall be a Karma Yogi. If the Moon and Jupiter are strong, he shall have

fame, whereas, if the Sun is strong rajayoga and a strong Saturn indicates a

hard working person.5. If AK is in the 5th house, the native is Dharma

Parayana, that is, obeys the laws of his dharma diligently and is

straightforward. If the Sun is strong, he shall have many good yogas. Blessings

of his father shall always protect him.6. If AK is in the 6th house, the native

is diseased and troubled. Propitiate as per Saturn or Lord Satya Narayana, fast

on full Moon days and speak the truth. OM TAT SAT.7. If AK is in the 7th house,

the native is blessed with a clean heart and many joys. If Venus is strong,

marriage shall be a great blessing.8. If AK is in the 8th house, the native has

many troubles and weaknesses. He is defeated in war. Propitiate as per Saturn or

Lord Satya Narayana, fast on full Moon days and speak the truth. OM TAT SAT.9.

If the AK is in the 9th house, the native is a very pious person and is wealthy

and fortunate.10. If AK is in the 10th house, the native is blessed with a clean

heart and good home. He shall be a pillar for his family and mother. The Moon in

strength shall be an added blessing for this native.11. If the AK is in the 11th

house, the native shall be brave, successful in war and capable of executing any

task. If Mars is strong, there shall be Rajayoga.12. If the AK is in the 12th

house, the native is very rich and blessed by Lakshmi.

 

IDENTIFYING YOUR ISTA DEVATAThe Ista Devata is seen from the 12th house from the

Karakamsa (that is, the sign occupied by AK in navamsa chart). If the 12th house

is occupied by a planet, then this indicates the Ista Devata. If more than one

occupy the sign, then the strongest shall indicate the Ista Devata. If none

occupy this sign, then the Lord of the sign shall indicate the Ista

Devata.Planets and their indications:a.If the Sun is the Ista Devata, Agni the

fire God is indicated. b. If the Moon is Ista, Gouri, Jala Devi are

indicated.c. If Mars is Ista, Kartikeya is indicated.d. If Mercury is Ista, and

is in the first drekkana in Rasi, Sri Rama is indicated whereas in the 2nd and

3rd drekkana, Sri Krishna is indicated.e. If Jupiter is Ista then Sadashiva or

Gurus are indicated.f. If Saturn is Ista then Narayana is indicated.g. If Venus

is Ista, then Annapoorna, Lakshmi, Radha, are indicated.h. If Rahu is Ista, then

Durga is indicated.i. If Ketu is Ista, then Ganapati is indicated.j. The native

will also like to worship the avatar as per the teachings of Ista Devata by

Parasara. That is, Sun-Rama,Moon-Krishna, etc. This is also seen in the

Vimsamsa.

3. The Karaka indicated by the Ista Devata planet shall indicate the

relation/person who shall lead the native to the Ista Devata.

4. The AK/Ista Devata holds the key to a chart and it is important to have

excellent relations with such people who are indicated by the Ista Devata

planet.

 

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Apart from this article, you may find "Zoran's" article with example, titles

"The role of Atma Karaka" on the web site of SJVC.

Regards

IMRAN

 

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Dear Jyotisha,

 

Can anyone tell me where can i get a reference about the

position of chara atmakaraka in each houses in a chart?

For example if someone had his /her AK in 9th house both

in rasi and navamsa.

 

Thanks & Regards

 

Mofie Augustine

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|| Om Gurave Namah :: Om Namo Naaraayanaaya ||

Namaste Fayyaz,

The second option is correct - the distance (signs) from (Navamsa) Lagna.

Best wishes,

Shailesh

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Monday, March 17, 2003 1:54 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka position????

Dear Imran, Please see the statement regarding counting of signs to find out

results of the house the AK is placed in. Is it that you count the number of

signs from AK to Navamsa lagna ( In Navamsa chart) or Vice Versa? eg: Navamsa

lagna is Leo & AK is in Virgo( 2nd house in navamsa chart) will you count the

results as in 2nd house or 12th house? Just an honest query. Best regards,

Fayyaz

 

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I had thought so myself, until i saw a post ,of 17th March, by Pearl Finn on the

subject ,which counted the position from AK to Navamsa lagna & NOT vice versa.

Your comments?

Best regards, Fayyaz

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Namaste Fayyaz,

Please check the mail of Pearl Finn again – she has mentioned BOTH, and the

second point is a new concept for this list (if my memory serves me right).

I am pasting the relevant portion below.

The position of the Atmakaraka in the Navamsa is where God sits in the chart and

shows his highest purpose. How and who God speaks to us through is understood by

counting from AK to the Navamsa Lagna.

E.g. George Bush has Venus his AK in Pisces, exalted, which shows God's

intention for him is to bring unconditional love and forgiveness to his

followers. As Venus is 9 signs away from Scorpio, his Navamsa Lagna, God's

message will come through his teachers, father, advisors (Vatican, France) or

9th house indications.

How we respond to this message is read through the number of signs from Navamsa

Lagna to AK and in this case it is 5 signs, indicating devotion to a cause,

politics, creativity, all 5th house indications.

Thanks & best regards,

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Wednesday, March 26, 2003 6:08 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka position????

Thanks, Shailesh, for your reply. I had thought so myself, until i saw a post

,of 17th March, by Pearl Finn on the subject ,which counted the position from

AK to Navamsa lagna & NOT vice versa. Your comments? Best regards, Fayyaz

 

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I had read the whole of Pearl's mail earlier also.

What i mean is that the first one is more important as it indicates what the AK

stands for in a chart or what is the message of destiny it delivers. The second

option relates to our inbuilt responses to this message.

Regards,

Fayyaz

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After all free will has to also have a pride of place in the cosmic scheme of things.

Thanks for enlighteneing with your thoughts.

Regards,

Fayyaz

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Namaste Fayyaz,

"My thoughts" - in this God's scheme, every thing is important.

If you check back, the two points made by Pearl are complementary to each other

- after all, there are only 12 rasis in a horoscope, so the distance betwwen

Lagnamsa & AK + distance between AK + Lagnamsa has to add up to 12.

Think again - what we are bone with - or lets say the purpose of our birth is

pre-determined - call it Karma or Prarabdha or whatever.

But our response to it is still to evolve - no doubt it is based on our past,

but there is an element of free-will in all our actions.

The bottomline is that we cannot control the first part, the purpose of our

birth but we CAN control the second part, our response- even if to a very small

extent.

And, by moulding the second part, we are directly impacting the first part of

our next birth,/ rebirth.

Do I make sense??

Best wishes,

Shailesh

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Wednesday, March 26, 2003 5:10 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Atmakaraka position????

Thanks, Shailesh, for your reply. I had read the whole of Pearl's mail earlier

also. What i mean is that the first one is more important as it indicates what

the AK stands for in a chart or what is the message of destiny it delivers. The

second option relates to our inbuilt responses to this message. Regards, Fayyaz

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