Guest guest Posted March 16, 1994 Report Share Posted March 16, 1994 Om Gurave NamahDear Imran, Bismillah! that was a superb post after a long time in this list. In fact the importance of the lagna and lagnesh seems to have been forgotten. Brahma yoga defining the self, the Mahapurusha yoga aas being the great achievement of a lifetime etc seems to have taken a back seat in front of 'labhesha' related yogas. There is one point I want to make. Both good and bad yogas function and both good and bad happens in life. We cannot say that if Rajyogas are present and daridra yogas are present and there are more rajyoga then the native is wealthy or powerful. No the working of karma dictates that TIME alone is the king. Waqt hi badshah hai - waqt ke din aur raat, waqt ke kal aur aaj... The dasa will determine as to who shall enjoy Rajyoga when and duryoga when. I am to cover this topic in its entirety i the Puri conference (plan for Jan 2004).At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha,I remain,Sanjay RathMail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, IndiaTel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; Personal Web: http://srath.com - Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:24 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Raja Yogas Dear Farrukh Sahab, I pleased to read you, after a long time. Though your queries required an authority over jyotish (or one who have read more or less all available classics, which indeed I could't yet) In my opinion, Jyotish is a qualitative science plus art. So it should not consider as quantitative, where every thing is countable or like an computer algorithm. Once Sanjay Rath jee, mentioned that lots of jyotish classics have lost and still will have to discover. Thus at this stage one can not computer the exact figure about number of favourable and unfavourable yogas. You said, that lesser number of evil yogas with greater number of raja yogas may be assumed like 3/4 i.e. 75% is neutralized and remaining 25% good effect should feel. But what happen ! if any person donot see any of 4 favourable yoga's producing lords? and what about a man who will enjoy all 4 (or many among) raja yoga's producing lords? And as far as matter of weak laganesh and strong dharma and karma lords is concern, it should be borne in mind that lagna and lagnesh stand for "I" i.e. everything abuout oneself. If "I" or taker is weak and dharmesh & Karmesh i.e. givers are strong then you can easily judge the whole situation. You may see lots of wealthy and affulent people but no one know them even in thier street. This is a case of strong 2+11 houses/padas and weak 1+9 houses/padas. Similarly a teacher who is full time involved in his work and get fame due to his knowledge but do not earn a smart amount is case where we are confronted strong 5+9+10 houses/padas but weak 11 house/pada. So it is impossible to get all sort of happyness at a time. Even a similar kind of yoga functions with different manner. Some times on physical plane sometimes on intellectual or sometimes on spiritual plane. The form and mode of cosmic energy change as the lagna vary person by person. On the other hand factors like; environment, family background, living place and "free will" can not ignore at cost. Talib-e-Dua IMRAN farrukhnauman <farrukhnauman > wrote: I've got some questions in my mind.1. Is there any authoritative info on raja yogas? I've seen different people writing different kinds of raja yogas. Please help!2. If there are more raja yogas than the bad yogas (the yogas that destroy raja yogas), like if there are 4 raja yogas and 3 very bad yogas, how would you predict about the person's life? Will it be exceptional or will it be just average? Common sense says that 3 bad yogas will balance 3 raja yogas and the 4th raja yoga will take full effect!3. If lord of ascendant is very weak, i.e. combust and placed in 6th, 8th or 12th, but 9th and 10th are essentially strong, and there are only benefics in 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th house, then will these planets and their aspects give high status/money and success in general to the native? Will the weakness of lord of ascendant be overcome by benefic aspects or benefic planets? Furthermore, if there are raja yogas formed by 9th, 10th, Jupiter, Moon, will these raja yogas take effect while the lord of ascendant is still weak?Thanks a lot in advance for your help and attention.FarrukhArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || O SERVANT, where dost thou seek Me?Lo! I am beside thee.I am neither in temple nor in mosque: I am neither in Kaaba nor in Kailash:Neither am I in rites and ceremonies, nor in Yoga and renunciation.If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me: thou shalt meet Me in a moment of time.Kabîr says, "O Sadhu! God is the breath of all breath." Web Hosting - establish your business online Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 I've got some questions in my mind. 1. Is there any authoritative info on raja yogas? I've seen different people writing different kinds of raja yogas. Please help! 2. If there are more raja yogas than the bad yogas (the yogas that destroy raja yogas), like if there are 4 raja yogas and 3 very bad yogas, how would you predict about the person's life? Will it be exceptional or will it be just average? Common sense says that 3 bad yogas will balance 3 raja yogas and the 4th raja yoga will take full effect! 3. If lord of ascendant is very weak, i.e. combust and placed in 6th, 8th or 12th, but 9th and 10th are essentially strong, and there are only benefics in 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th house, then will these planets and their aspects give high status/money and success in general to the native? Will the weakness of lord of ascendant be overcome by benefic aspects or benefic planets? Furthermore, if there are raja yogas formed by 9th, 10th, Jupiter, Moon, will these raja yogas take effect while the lord of ascendant is still weak? Thanks a lot in advance for your help and attention. Farrukh Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 15, 2003 Report Share Posted March 15, 2003 I pleased to read you, after a long time. Though your queries required an authority over jyotish (or one who have read more or less all available classics, which indeed I could't yet) In my opinion, Jyotish is a qualitative science plus art. So it should not consider as quantitative, where every thing is countable or like an computer algorithm. Once Sanjay Rath jee, mentioned that lots of jyotish classics have lost and still will have to discover. Thus at this stage one can not computer the exact figure about number of favourable and unfavourable yogas. You said, that lesser number of evil yogas with greater number of raja yogas may be assumed like 3/4 i.e. 75% is neutralized and remaining 25% good effect should feel. But what happen ! if any person donot see any of 4 favourable yoga's producing lords? and what about a man who will enjoy all 4 (or many among) raja yoga's producing lords? And as far as matter of weak laganesh and strong dharma and karma lords is concern, it should be borne in mind that lagna and lagnesh stand for "I" i.e. everything abuout oneself. If "I" or taker is weak and dharmesh & Karmesh i.e. givers are strong then you can easily judge the whole situation. You may see lots of wealthy and affulent people but no one know them even in thier street. This is a case of strong 2+11 houses/padas and weak 1+9 houses/padas. Similarly a teacher who is full time involved in his work and get fame due to his knowledge but do not earn a smart amount is case where we are confronted strong 5+9+10 houses/padas but weak 11 house/pada. So it is impossible to get all sort of happyness at a time. Even a similar kind of yoga functions with different manner. Some times on physical plane sometimes on intellectual or sometimes on spiritual plane. The form and mode of cosmic energy change as the lagna vary person by person. On the other hand factors like; environment, family background, living place and "free will" can not ignore at cost. Talib-e-Dua IMRAN farrukhnauman <farrukhnauman > wrote: I've got some questions in my mind.1. Is there any authoritative info on raja yogas? I've seen different people writing different kinds of raja yogas. Please help!2. If there are more raja yogas than the bad yogas (the yogas that destroy raja yogas), like if there are 4 raja yogas and 3 very bad yogas, how would you predict about the person's life? Will it be exceptional or will it be just average? Common sense says that 3 bad yogas will balance 3 raja yogas and the 4th raja yoga will take full effect!3. If lord of ascendant is very weak, i.e. combust and placed in 6th, 8th or 12th, but 9th and 10th are essentially strong, and there are only benefics in 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th house, then will these planets and their aspects give high status/money and success in general to the native? Will the weakness of lord of ascendant be overcome by benefic aspects or benefic planets? Furthermore, if there are raja yogas formed by 9th, 10th, Jupiter, Moon, will these raja yogas take effect while the lord of ascendant is still weak?Thanks a lot in advance for your help and attention.FarrukhArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......|| Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu || O SERVANT, where dost thou seek Me?Lo! I am beside thee.I am neither in temple nor in mosque: I am neither in Kaaba nor in Kailash:Neither am I in rites and ceremonies, nor in Yoga and renunciation.If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me: thou shalt meet Me in a moment of time.Kabîr says, "O Sadhu! God is the breath of all breath." Web Hosting - establish your business online Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 16, 2003 Report Share Posted March 16, 2003 Your point is absolutely right, if the engine is not working properly then no one can reach his/her destination on time. It does not a matter, how luxurious vehicle of life you are destined. Gautam Buddha beautifully described the cycle of karma as: "All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him, as the wheel follows the foot of the ox that draws the carriage. All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him." (Dhammapada:1-2) Due to unavoidable importance of lagna and lagnesh, it is assmed the only junction where Kendara and Trikoon meet. Thus besides comparing Raja Yoga and Daridra Yoga. The connectivity between lagn/pada with either of good or evil combination get more importance. And obviously dasa decides the level of fructification. Different sort of dasas judge different level of cosmic energy. Warm Regards IMRAN Sanjay Rath <vyasa (AT) (DOT) org> wrote: Om Gurave NamahDear Imran, Bismillah! that was a superb post after a long time in this list. In fact the importance of the lagna and lagnesh seems to have been forgotten. Brahma yoga defining the self, the Mahapurusha yoga aas being the great achievement of a lifetime etc seems to have taken a back seat in front of 'labhesha' related yogas. There is one point I want to make. Both good and bad yogas function and both good and bad happens in life. We cannot say that if Rajyogas are present and daridra yogas are present and there are more rajyoga then the native is wealthy or powerful. No the working of karma dictates that TIME alone is the king. Waqt hi badshah hai - waqt ke din aur raat, waqt ke kal aur aaj... The dasa will determine as to who shall enjoy Rajyoga when and duryoga when. I am to cover this topic in its entirety i the Puri conference (plan for Jan 2004).At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha,I remain,Sanjay RathMail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, IndiaTel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; Personal Web: http://srath.com - Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:24 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Raja Yogas Dear Farrukh Sahab, I pleased to read you, after a long time. Though your queries required an authority over jyotish (or one who have read more or less all available classics, which indeed I could't yet) In my opinion, Jyotish is a qualitative science plus art. So it should not consider as quantitative, where every thing is countable or like an computer algorithm. Once Sanjay Rath jee, mentioned that lots of jyotish classics have lost and still will have to discover. Thus at this stage one can not computer the exact figure about number of favourable and unfavourable yogas. You said, that lesser number of evil yogas with greater number of raja yogas may be assumed like 3/4 i.e. 75% is neutralized and remaining 25% good effect should feel. But what happen ! if any person donot see any of 4 favourable yoga's producing lords? and what about a man who will enjoy all 4 (or many among) raja yoga's producing lords? And as far as matter of weak laganesh and strong dharma and karma lords is concern, it should be borne in mind that lagna and lagnesh stand for "I" i.e. everything abuout oneself. If "I" or taker is weak and dharmesh & Karmesh i.e. givers are strong then you can easily judge the whole situation. You may see lots of wealthy and affulent people but no one know them even in thier street. This is a case of strong 2+11 houses/padas and weak 1+9 houses/padas. Similarly a teacher who is full time involved in his work and get fame due to his knowledge but do not earn a smart amount is case where we are confronted strong 5+9+10 houses/padas but weak 11 house/pada. So it is impossible to get all sort of happyness at a time. Even a similar kind of yoga functions with different manner. Some times on physical plane sometimes on intellectual or sometimes on spiritual plane. The form and mode of cosmic energy change as the lagna vary person by person. On the other hand factors like; environment, family background, living place and "free will" can not ignore at cost. Talib-e-Dua IMRAN farrukhnauman <farrukhnauman > wrote: I've got some questions in my mind.1. Is there any authoritative info on raja yogas? I've seen different people writing different kinds of raja yogas. Please help!2. If there are more raja yogas than the bad yogas (the yogas that destroy raja yogas), like if there are 4 raja yogas and 3 very bad yogas, how would you predict about the person's life? Will it be exceptional or will it be just average? Common sense says that 3 bad yogas will balance 3 raja yogas and the 4th raja yoga will take full effect!3. If lord of ascendant is very weak, i.e. combust and placed in 6th, 8th or 12th, but 9th and 10th are essentially strong, and there are only benefics in 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th house, then will these planets and their aspects give high status/money and success in general to the native? Will the weakness of lord of ascendant be overcome by benefic aspects or benefic planets? Furthermore, if there are raja yogas formed by 9th, 10th, Jupiter, Moon, will these raja yogas take effect while the lord of ascendant is still weak?Thanks a lot in advance for your help and attention.FarrukhArchives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... O SERVANT, where dost thou seek Me?Lo! I am beside thee.I am neither in temple nor in mosque: I am neither in Kaaba nor in Kailash:Neither am I in rites and ceremonies, nor in Yoga and renunciation.If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me: thou shalt meet Me in a moment of time.Kabîr says, "O Sadhu! God is the breath of all breath." Web Hosting - establish your business online Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 17, 2003 Report Share Posted March 17, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Farrukh, Namaste. - "farrukhnauman" <farrukhnauman <vedic astrology> Saturday, March 15, 2003 11:52 AM [vedic astrology] Raja Yogas > I've got some questions in my mind. > 1. Is there any authoritative info on raja yogas? I've seen > different people writing different kinds of raja yogas. Please help! >From classics, BPHS and Jaimini Sutram is the most important. Jataka Parijata also lists quite a few. Info on Viparita Rajayogas is there either in Phala Dipika or Uttara Kalamrita as far as I remember. > 2. If there are more raja yogas than the bad yogas (the yogas > that destroy raja yogas), like if there are 4 raja yogas and 3 very > bad yogas, how would you predict about the person's life? Will it be > exceptional or will it be just average? Common sense says that 3 bad > yogas will balance 3 raja yogas and the 4th raja yoga will take full > effect! It largely depend on how they influence each other. Assessing the strength of raja yogas and arista yogas and analysing their effect on each other is a quite delicate task. All I can say without getting into concrete examples is that merely the number of Rajayogas is not enough to describe their profoundness. Thereofre it is a very vast subject. > 3. If lord of ascendant is very weak, i.e. combust and placed in > 6th, 8th or 12th, but 9th and 10th are essentially strong, and there > are only benefics in 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th house, then will these > planets and their aspects give high status/money and success in > general to the native? Will the weakness of lord of ascendant be > overcome by benefic aspects or benefic planets? Furthermore, if there > are raja yogas formed by 9th, 10th, Jupiter, Moon, will these raja > yogas take effect while the lord of ascendant is still weak? Yes, they will. But at least one of the Janma Lagna, Hora Lagna or Gati lagna shoudl be strong and linked to the Rajayogas. If Janma lagna is the one, then he will enjoy physical and intellectual helath and fulfillment. If GL, then god position, and if Hl then big wealth. So these special ascendants are crucial indetermining the results. Also the Sun and the Moon as the karakas for Raja yogas should be examined carefully. Although in general a Sun-Moon conjunction (new moon) is not considered auspicious, it is quite favourable for Rajayogas. I hope this helps. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 > Thanks a lot in advance for your help and attention. > > Farrukh > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Dear Imran, Sanjay Rath and other experts, Sorry I couldn't reply earlier. I get what you said. But I don't know one thing. How do we find which planet will be fruitful in its dasa? For example, someone wants fame, how will tell when he will get fame? for example, his 10th lord's dasa strts when he is 80 yrs old, does it mean he won't get fame ever? Thanks for your help. Farrukh vedic astrology, Muhammad Imran <astroimran> wrote: > > Respected Pandit Sanjay Rath, > Your point is absolutely right, if the engine is not working properly then no one can reach his/her destination on time. It does not a matter, how luxurious vehicle of life you are destined. > Gautam Buddha beautifully described the cycle of karma as: > "All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him, as the wheel follows the foot of the ox that draws the carriage. > > All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him." (Dhammapada:1-2) > > Due to unavoidable importance of lagna and lagnesh, it is assmed the only junction where Kendara and Trikoon meet. Thus besides comparing Raja Yoga and Daridra Yoga. The connectivity between lagn/pada with either of good or evil combination get more importance. And obviously dasa decides the level of fructification. Different sort of dasas judge different level of cosmic energy. > > Warm Regards > > IMRAN > > > > Sanjay Rath <vyasa@s...> wrote: Om Gurave Namah > Dear Imran,Bismillah! that was a superb post after a long time in this list. In fact the importance of the lagna and lagnesh seems to have been forgotten. Brahma yoga defining the self, the Mahapurusha yoga aas being the great achievement of a lifetime etc seems to have taken a back seat in front of 'labhesha' related yogas. There is one point I want to make. Both good and bad yogas function and both good and bad happens in life. We cannot say that if Rajyogas are present and daridra yogas are present and there are more rajyoga then the native is wealthy or powerful. No the working of karma dictates that TIME alone is the king. Waqt hi badshah hai - waqt ke din aur raat, waqt ke kal aur aaj...The dasa will determine as to who shall enjoy Rajyoga when and duryoga when. I am to cover this topic in its entirety i the Puri conference (plan for Jan 2004). > At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha, > I remain, > Sanjay Rath > Mail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, India > Tel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; Personal Web: http://srath.com----- Original Message ----- Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:24 AMRe: [vedic astrology] Raja Yogas > > Dear Farrukh Sahab, > I pleased to read you, after a long time. > Though your queries required an authority over jyotish (or one who have read more or less all available classics, which indeed I could't yet) > In my opinion, Jyotish is a qualitative science plus art. So it should not consider as quantitative, where every thing is countable or like an computer algorithm. Once Sanjay Rath jee, mentioned that lots of jyotish classics have lost and still will have to discover. Thus at this stage one can not computer the exact figure about number of favourable and unfavourable yogas. > You said, that lesser number of evil yogas with greater number of raja yogas may be assumed like 3/4 i.e. 75% is neutralized and remaining 25% good effect should feel. > But what happen ! if any person donot see any of 4 favourable yoga's producing lords? and what about a man who will enjoy all 4 (or many among) raja yoga's producing lords? > And as far as matter of weak laganesh and strong dharma and karma lords is concern, it should be borne in mind that lagna and lagnesh stand for "I" i.e. everything abuout oneself. > If "I" or taker is weak and dharmesh & Karmesh i.e. givers are strong then you can easily judge the whole situation. You may see lots of wealthy and affulent people but no one know them even in thier street. This is a case of strong 2+11 houses/padas and weak 1+9 houses/padas. Similarly a teacher who is full time involved in his work and get fame due to his knowledge but do not earn a smart amount is case where we are confronted strong 5+9+10 houses/padas but weak 11 house/pada. > So it is impossible to get all sort of happyness at a time. Even a similar kind of yoga functions with different manner. Some times on physical plane sometimes on intellectual or sometimes on spiritual plane. The form and mode of cosmic energy change as the lagna vary person by person. On the other hand factors like; environment, family background, living place and "free will" can not ignore at cost. > Talib-e-Dua > IMRAN > > > farrukhnauman <farrukhnauman> wrote: I've got some questions in my mind. > 1. Is there any authoritative info on raja yogas? I've seen > different people writing different kinds of raja yogas. Please help! > 2. If there are more raja yogas than the bad yogas (the yogas > that destroy raja yogas), like if there are 4 raja yogas and 3 very > bad yogas, how would you predict about the person's life? Will it be > exceptional or will it be just average? Common sense says that 3 bad > yogas will balance 3 raja yogas and the 4th raja yoga will take full > effect! > 3. If lord of ascendant is very weak, i.e. combust and placed in > 6th, 8th or 12th, but 9th and 10th are essentially strong, and there > are only benefics in 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th house, then will these > planets and their aspects give high status/money and success in > general to the native? Will the weakness of lord of ascendant be > overcome by benefic aspects or benefic planets? Furthermore, if there > are raja yogas formed by 9th, 10th, Jupiter, Moon, will these raja > yogas take effect while the lord of ascendant is still weak? > > Thanks a lot in advance for your help and attention. > > Farrukh > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > O SERVANT, where dost thou seek Me? > Lo! I am beside thee. > I am neither in temple nor in mosque: I am neither in Kaaba nor in Kailash: > Neither am I in rites and ceremonies, nor in Yoga and renunciation. > If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me: thou shalt meet Me in a moment of time. > Kabîr says, "O Sadhu! God is the breath of all breath." > > > > > > Web Hosting - establish your business online > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Farrukh, Namaste. My method is always the following: 1. First you should pinpoint the Rajayoga Karakas and access their strength, avastha etc. 2. Only after this go to various Dasas like Vimsottari, Narayana, Kalacakra, Sudasa, Lagna Kendradi and Moola. These Dasas should be considered for Rajayogas. A factor that you are mentioning should obviously be taken into consideration. There's a natural age for marriage, procreation, career etc. If the dasa shows different results then you should be very careful as in some rare cases a person may enjoy Rajayoga even at 80 years age. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - "farrukhnauman" <farrukhnauman <vedic astrology> Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:52 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Raja Yogas Dear Imran, Sanjay Rath and other experts, Sorry I couldn't reply earlier. I get what you said. But I don't know one thing. How do we find which planet will be fruitful in its dasa? For example, someone wants fame, how will tell when he will get fame? for example, his 10th lord's dasa strts when he is 80 yrs old, does it mean he won't get fame ever? Thanks for your help. Farrukh vedic astrology, Muhammad Imran <astroimran> wrote: > > Respected Pandit Sanjay Rath, > Your point is absolutely right, if the engine is not working properly then no one can reach his/her destination on time. It does not a matter, how luxurious vehicle of life you are destined. > Gautam Buddha beautifully described the cycle of karma as: > "All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him, as the wheel follows the foot of the ox that draws the carriage. > > All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a shadow that never leaves him." (Dhammapada:1-2) > > Due to unavoidable importance of lagna and lagnesh, it is assmed the only junction where Kendara and Trikoon meet. Thus besides comparing Raja Yoga and Daridra Yoga. The connectivity between lagn/pada with either of good or evil combination get more importance. And obviously dasa decides the level of fructification. Different sort of dasas judge different level of cosmic energy. > > Warm Regards > > IMRAN > > > > Sanjay Rath <vyasa@s...> wrote: Om Gurave Namah > Dear Imran,Bismillah! that was a superb post after a long time in this list. In fact the importance of the lagna and lagnesh seems to have been forgotten. Brahma yoga defining the self, the Mahapurusha yoga aas being the great achievement of a lifetime etc seems to have taken a back seat in front of 'labhesha' related yogas. There is one point I want to make. Both good and bad yogas function and both good and bad happens in life. We cannot say that if Rajyogas are present and daridra yogas are present and there are more rajyoga then the native is wealthy or powerful. No the working of karma dictates that TIME alone is the king. Waqt hi badshah hai - waqt ke din aur raat, waqt ke kal aur aaj...The dasa will determine as to who shall enjoy Rajyoga when and duryoga when. I am to cover this topic in its entirety i the Puri conference (plan for Jan 2004). > At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha, > I remain, > Sanjay Rath > Mail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, India > Tel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; Personal Web: http://srath.com----- Original Message ----- Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Sunday, March 16, 2003 4:24 AMRe: [vedic astrology] Raja Yogas > > Dear Farrukh Sahab, > I pleased to read you, after a long time. > Though your queries required an authority over jyotish (or one who have read more or less all available classics, which indeed I could't yet) > In my opinion, Jyotish is a qualitative science plus art. So it should not consider as quantitative, where every thing is countable or like an computer algorithm. Once Sanjay Rath jee, mentioned that lots of jyotish classics have lost and still will have to discover. Thus at this stage one can not computer the exact figure about number of favourable and unfavourable yogas. > You said, that lesser number of evil yogas with greater number of raja yogas may be assumed like 3/4 i.e. 75% is neutralized and remaining 25% good effect should feel. > But what happen ! if any person donot see any of 4 favourable yoga's producing lords? and what about a man who will enjoy all 4 (or many among) raja yoga's producing lords? > And as far as matter of weak laganesh and strong dharma and karma lords is concern, it should be borne in mind that lagna and lagnesh stand for "I" i.e. everything abuout oneself. > If "I" or taker is weak and dharmesh & Karmesh i.e. givers are strong then you can easily judge the whole situation. You may see lots of wealthy and affulent people but no one know them even in thier street. This is a case of strong 2+11 houses/padas and weak 1+9 houses/padas. Similarly a teacher who is full time involved in his work and get fame due to his knowledge but do not earn a smart amount is case where we are confronted strong 5+9+10 houses/padas but weak 11 house/pada. > So it is impossible to get all sort of happyness at a time. Even a similar kind of yoga functions with different manner. Some times on physical plane sometimes on intellectual or sometimes on spiritual plane. The form and mode of cosmic energy change as the lagna vary person by person. On the other hand factors like; environment, family background, living place and "free will" can not ignore at cost. > Talib-e-Dua > IMRAN > > > farrukhnauman <farrukhnauman> wrote: I've got some questions in my mind. > 1. Is there any authoritative info on raja yogas? I've seen > different people writing different kinds of raja yogas. Please help! > 2. If there are more raja yogas than the bad yogas (the yogas > that destroy raja yogas), like if there are 4 raja yogas and 3 very > bad yogas, how would you predict about the person's life? Will it be > exceptional or will it be just average? Common sense says that 3 bad > yogas will balance 3 raja yogas and the 4th raja yoga will take full > effect! > 3. If lord of ascendant is very weak, i.e. combust and placed in > 6th, 8th or 12th, but 9th and 10th are essentially strong, and there > are only benefics in 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th house, then will these > planets and their aspects give high status/money and success in > general to the native? Will the weakness of lord of ascendant be > overcome by benefic aspects or benefic planets? Furthermore, if there > are raja yogas formed by 9th, 10th, Jupiter, Moon, will these raja > yogas take effect while the lord of ascendant is still weak? > > Thanks a lot in advance for your help and attention. > > Farrukh > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Terms of Service. > > > > > > O SERVANT, where dost thou seek Me? > Lo! I am beside thee. > I am neither in temple nor in mosque: I am neither in Kaaba nor in Kailash: > Neither am I in rites and ceremonies, nor in Yoga and renunciation. > If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me: thou shalt meet Me in a moment of time. > Kabîr says, "O Sadhu! God is the breath of all breath." > > > > > > Web Hosting - establish your business online > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Sorry sir, I can't attend these conferences. Thanks for your offer anyway! vedic astrology, "Sanjay Rath" <vyasa@s...> wrote: > > ~Om Gurave Namah~ > Dear Farrukh > I will be speaking on Naisargika Dasa this time in the USA in the conferences. Don't missi it if you are around. You will get your answers. > Best wishes & have a nice day, > Sanjay Rath > -- --- > H-5 B J B Nagar, Bhubaneswar - 751014, India > SJC Web pages: http://.org > Personal Web: http://srath.com > Tel: +91-674-243 6781 > -- --- > > > > > > - > farrukhnauman > vedic astrology > Wednesday, March 26, 2003 4:22 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: Raja Yogas > > > Dear Imran, Sanjay Rath and other experts, > Sorry I couldn't reply earlier. I get what you said. > But I don't know one thing. How do we find which planet will be > fruitful in its dasa? > For example, someone wants fame, how will tell when he will get > fame? for example, his 10th lord's dasa strts when he is 80 yrs old, > does it mean he won't get fame ever? > > Thanks for your help. > > Farrukh > > > vedic astrology, Muhammad Imran > <astroimran> wrote: > > > > Respected Pandit Sanjay Rath, > > Your point is absolutely right, if the engine is not working > properly then no one can reach his/her destination on time. It does > not a matter, how luxurious vehicle of life you are destined. > > Gautam Buddha beautifully described the cycle of karma as: > > "All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is > founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man > speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him, as the wheel > follows the foot of the ox that draws the carriage. > > > > All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is > founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man > speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a > shadow that never leaves him." (Dhammapada:1-2) > > > > Due to unavoidable importance of lagna and lagnesh, it is assmed > the only junction where Kendara and Trikoon meet. Thus besides > comparing Raja Yoga and Daridra Yoga. The connectivity between > lagn/pada with either of good or evil combination get more > importance. And obviously dasa decides the level of fructification. > Different sort of dasas judge different level of cosmic energy. > > > > Warm Regards > > > > IMRAN > > > > > > > > Sanjay Rath <vyasa@s...> wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Imran,Bismillah! that was a superb post after a long time in > this list. In fact the importance of the lagna and lagnesh seems to > have been forgotten. Brahma yoga defining the self, the Mahapurusha > yoga aas being the great achievement of a lifetime etc seems to have > taken a back seat in front of 'labhesha' related yogas. There is one > point I want to make. Both good and bad yogas function and both good > and bad happens in life. We cannot say that if Rajyogas are present > and daridra yogas are present and there are more rajyoga then the > native is wealthy or powerful. No the working of karma dictates that > TIME alone is the king. Waqt hi badshah hai - waqt ke din aur raat, > waqt ke kal aur aaj...The dasa will determine as to who shall enjoy > Rajyoga when and duryoga when. I am to cover this topic in its > entirety i the Puri conference (plan for Jan 2004). > > At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha, > > I remain, > > Sanjay Rath > > Mail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, > India > > Tel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; > Personal Web: http://srath.com----- Original Message ----- > Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Sunday, > March 16, 2003 4:24 AMRe: [vedic astrology] Raja Yogas > > > > Dear Farrukh Sahab, > > I pleased to read you, after a long time. > > Though your queries required an authority over jyotish (or one who > have read more or less all available classics, which indeed I > could't yet) > > In my opinion, Jyotish is a qualitative science plus art. So it > should not consider as quantitative, where every thing is countable > or like an computer algorithm. Once Sanjay Rath jee, mentioned that > lots of jyotish classics have lost and still will have to discover. > Thus at this stage one can not computer the exact figure about > number of favourable and unfavourable yogas. > > You said, that lesser number of evil yogas with greater number of > raja yogas may be assumed like 3/4 i.e. 75% is neutralized and > remaining 25% good effect should feel. > > But what happen ! if any person donot see any of 4 favourable > yoga's producing lords? and what about a man who will enjoy all 4 > (or many among) raja yoga's producing lords? > > And as far as matter of weak laganesh and strong dharma and karma > lords is concern, it should be borne in mind that lagna and lagnesh > stand for "I" i.e. everything abuout oneself. > > If "I" or taker is weak and dharmesh & Karmesh i.e. givers are > strong then you can easily judge the whole situation. You may see > lots of wealthy and affulent people but no one know them even in > thier street. This is a case of strong 2+11 houses/padas and weak > 1+9 houses/padas. Similarly a teacher who is full time involved in > his work and get fame due to his knowledge but do not earn a smart > amount is case where we are confronted strong 5+9+10 houses/padas > but weak 11 house/pada. > > So it is impossible to get all sort of happyness at a time. Even a > similar kind of yoga functions with different manner. Some times on > physical plane sometimes on intellectual or sometimes on spiritual > plane. The form and mode of cosmic energy change as the lagna vary > person by person. On the other hand factors like; environment, > family background, living place and "free will" can not ignore at > cost. > > Talib-e-Dua > > IMRAN > > > > > > farrukhnauman <farrukhnauman> wrote: I've got some questions > in my mind. > > 1. Is there any authoritative info on raja yogas? I've seen > > different people writing different kinds of raja yogas. Please > help! > > 2. If there are more raja yogas than the bad yogas (the yogas > > that destroy raja yogas), like if there are 4 raja yogas and 3 > very > > bad yogas, how would you predict about the person's life? Will it > be > > exceptional or will it be just average? Common sense says that 3 > bad > > yogas will balance 3 raja yogas and the 4th raja yoga will take > full > > effect! > > 3. If lord of ascendant is very weak, i.e. combust and placed > in > > 6th, 8th or 12th, but 9th and 10th are essentially strong, and > there > > are only benefics in 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th house, then will these > > planets and their aspects give high status/money and success in > > general to the native? Will the weakness of lord of ascendant be > > overcome by benefic aspects or benefic planets? Furthermore, if > there > > are raja yogas formed by 9th, 10th, Jupiter, Moon, will these raja > > yogas take effect while the lord of ascendant is still weak? > > > > Thanks a lot in advance for your help and attention. > > > > Farrukh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > O SERVANT, where dost thou seek Me? > > Lo! I am beside thee. > > I am neither in temple nor in mosque: I am neither in Kaaba nor in > Kailash: > > Neither am I in rites and ceremonies, nor in Yoga and renunciation. > > If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me: thou shalt > meet Me in a moment of time. > > Kabîr says, "O Sadhu! God is the breath of all breath." > > > > > > > > > > > > Web Hosting - establish your business online > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 26, 2003 Report Share Posted March 26, 2003 Dear sir, Thanks for your answer. I am just curious, that if someone has a very powerful beneficial yoga, like gaja kesari yoga, shouldn't it take effect all through that person's life? or will it only take effect during Jupiter and Moon's respective periods or dasas. Does it mean that a person having a powerful horoscope has bad times too, because of bad placed planets? With regards, Farrukh vedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> wrote: > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Farrukh, > > Namaste. > > My method is always the following: > > 1. First you should pinpoint the Rajayoga Karakas and access their strength, > avastha etc. > 2. Only after this go to various Dasas like Vimsottari, Narayana, Kalacakra, > Sudasa, Lagna Kendradi and Moola. These Dasas should be considered for > Rajayogas. > > A factor that you are mentioning should obviously be taken into > consideration. There's a natural age for marriage, procreation, career etc. > If the dasa shows different results then you should be very careful as in > some rare cases a person may enjoy Rajayoga even at 80 years age. > > Yours, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > gauranga@b... > Jyotish Remedies: > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > - > "farrukhnauman" <farrukhnauman> > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:52 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Raja Yogas > > > Dear Imran, Sanjay Rath and other experts, > Sorry I couldn't reply earlier. I get what you said. > But I don't know one thing. How do we find which planet will be > fruitful in its dasa? > For example, someone wants fame, how will tell when he will get > fame? for example, his 10th lord's dasa strts when he is 80 yrs old, > does it mean he won't get fame ever? > > Thanks for your help. > > Farrukh > > > vedic astrology, Muhammad Imran > <astroimran> wrote: > > > > Respected Pandit Sanjay Rath, > > Your point is absolutely right, if the engine is not working > properly then no one can reach his/her destination on time. It does > not a matter, how luxurious vehicle of life you are destined. > > Gautam Buddha beautifully described the cycle of karma as: > > "All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is > founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man > speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him, as the wheel > follows the foot of the ox that draws the carriage. > > > > All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is > founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man > speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a > shadow that never leaves him." (Dhammapada:1-2) > > > > Due to unavoidable importance of lagna and lagnesh, it is assmed > the only junction where Kendara and Trikoon meet. Thus besides > comparing Raja Yoga and Daridra Yoga. The connectivity between > lagn/pada with either of good or evil combination get more > importance. And obviously dasa decides the level of fructification. > Different sort of dasas judge different level of cosmic energy. > > > > Warm Regards > > > > IMRAN > > > > > > > > Sanjay Rath <vyasa@s...> wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Imran,Bismillah! that was a superb post after a long time in > this list. In fact the importance of the lagna and lagnesh seems to > have been forgotten. Brahma yoga defining the self, the Mahapurusha > yoga aas being the great achievement of a lifetime etc seems to have > taken a back seat in front of 'labhesha' related yogas. There is one > point I want to make. Both good and bad yogas function and both good > and bad happens in life. We cannot say that if Rajyogas are present > and daridra yogas are present and there are more rajyoga then the > native is wealthy or powerful. No the working of karma dictates that > TIME alone is the king. Waqt hi badshah hai - waqt ke din aur raat, > waqt ke kal aur aaj...The dasa will determine as to who shall enjoy > Rajyoga when and duryoga when. I am to cover this topic in its > entirety i the Puri conference (plan for Jan 2004). > > At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha, > > I remain, > > Sanjay Rath > > Mail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, > India > > Tel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; > Personal Web: http://srath.com----- Original Message ----- > Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Sunday, > March 16, 2003 4:24 AMRe: [vedic astrology] Raja Yogas > > > > Dear Farrukh Sahab, > > I pleased to read you, after a long time. > > Though your queries required an authority over jyotish (or one who > have read more or less all available classics, which indeed I > could't yet) > > In my opinion, Jyotish is a qualitative science plus art. So it > should not consider as quantitative, where every thing is countable > or like an computer algorithm. Once Sanjay Rath jee, mentioned that > lots of jyotish classics have lost and still will have to discover. > Thus at this stage one can not computer the exact figure about > number of favourable and unfavourable yogas. > > You said, that lesser number of evil yogas with greater number of > raja yogas may be assumed like 3/4 i.e. 75% is neutralized and > remaining 25% good effect should feel. > > But what happen ! if any person donot see any of 4 favourable > yoga's producing lords? and what about a man who will enjoy all 4 > (or many among) raja yoga's producing lords? > > And as far as matter of weak laganesh and strong dharma and karma > lords is concern, it should be borne in mind that lagna and lagnesh > stand for "I" i.e. everything abuout oneself. > > If "I" or taker is weak and dharmesh & Karmesh i.e. givers are > strong then you can easily judge the whole situation. You may see > lots of wealthy and affulent people but no one know them even in > thier street. This is a case of strong 2+11 houses/padas and weak > 1+9 houses/padas. Similarly a teacher who is full time involved in > his work and get fame due to his knowledge but do not earn a smart > amount is case where we are confronted strong 5+9+10 houses/padas > but weak 11 house/pada. > > So it is impossible to get all sort of happyness at a time. Even a > similar kind of yoga functions with different manner. Some times on > physical plane sometimes on intellectual or sometimes on spiritual > plane. The form and mode of cosmic energy change as the lagna vary > person by person. On the other hand factors like; environment, > family background, living place and "free will" can not ignore at > cost. > > Talib-e-Dua > > IMRAN > > > > > > farrukhnauman <farrukhnauman> wrote: I've got some questions > in my mind. > > 1. Is there any authoritative info on raja yogas? I've seen > > different people writing different kinds of raja yogas. Please > help! > > 2. If there are more raja yogas than the bad yogas (the yogas > > that destroy raja yogas), like if there are 4 raja yogas and 3 > very > > bad yogas, how would you predict about the person's life? Will it > be > > exceptional or will it be just average? Common sense says that 3 > bad > > yogas will balance 3 raja yogas and the 4th raja yoga will take > full > > effect! > > 3. If lord of ascendant is very weak, i.e. combust and placed > in > > 6th, 8th or 12th, but 9th and 10th are essentially strong, and > there > > are only benefics in 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th house, then will these > > planets and their aspects give high status/money and success in > > general to the native? Will the weakness of lord of ascendant be > > overcome by benefic aspects or benefic planets? Furthermore, if > there > > are raja yogas formed by 9th, 10th, Jupiter, Moon, will these raja > > yogas take effect while the lord of ascendant is still weak? > > > > Thanks a lot in advance for your help and attention. > > > > Farrukh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > O SERVANT, where dost thou seek Me? > > Lo! I am beside thee. > > I am neither in temple nor in mosque: I am neither in Kaaba nor in > Kailash: > > Neither am I in rites and ceremonies, nor in Yoga and renunciation. > > If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me: thou shalt > meet Me in a moment of time. > > Kabîr says, "O Sadhu! God is the breath of all breath." > > > > > > > > > > > > Web Hosting - establish your business online > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > Web Hosting - establish your business online > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted March 27, 2003 Report Share Posted March 27, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Farrukh, Namaste. As far as I understand it, the clue here lies in analysing the Nabhasa yogas very thoroughly. I'm sure it's not by chance that Parasara, varahamihira etc. separated these sets of yogas, saying that they have effect throughout one's life. The rest of the yogas however tends to give their results in their respective dashas or natural ages of the planets. Sanjayji made a hint on Naisargika dasa, which gives more idea as to when will the raja/yogas connected to different planets and naisargika kaarakas manifest. As for Gajakesari yoga, I think it will have stronger or weaker effects during different periods in one's life. Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - "farrukhnauman" <farrukhnauman <vedic astrology> Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:55 AM [vedic astrology] Re: Raja Yogas Dear sir, Thanks for your answer. I am just curious, that if someone has a very powerful beneficial yoga, like gaja kesari yoga, shouldn't it take effect all through that person's life? or will it only take effect during Jupiter and Moon's respective periods or dasas. Does it mean that a person having a powerful horoscope has bad times too, because of bad placed planets? With regards, Farrukh vedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> wrote: > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Farrukh, > > Namaste. > > My method is always the following: > > 1. First you should pinpoint the Rajayoga Karakas and access their strength, > avastha etc. > 2. Only after this go to various Dasas like Vimsottari, Narayana, Kalacakra, > Sudasa, Lagna Kendradi and Moola. These Dasas should be considered for > Rajayogas. > > A factor that you are mentioning should obviously be taken into > consideration. There's a natural age for marriage, procreation, career etc. > If the dasa shows different results then you should be very careful as in > some rare cases a person may enjoy Rajayoga even at 80 years age. > > Yours, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > gauranga@b... > Jyotish Remedies: > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > - > "farrukhnauman" <farrukhnauman> > <vedic astrology> > Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:52 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Raja Yogas > > > Dear Imran, Sanjay Rath and other experts, > Sorry I couldn't reply earlier. I get what you said. > But I don't know one thing. How do we find which planet will be > fruitful in its dasa? > For example, someone wants fame, how will tell when he will get > fame? for example, his 10th lord's dasa strts when he is 80 yrs old, > does it mean he won't get fame ever? > > Thanks for your help. > > Farrukh > > > vedic astrology, Muhammad Imran > <astroimran> wrote: > > > > Respected Pandit Sanjay Rath, > > Your point is absolutely right, if the engine is not working > properly then no one can reach his/her destination on time. It does > not a matter, how luxurious vehicle of life you are destined. > > Gautam Buddha beautifully described the cycle of karma as: > > "All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is > founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man > speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him, as the wheel > follows the foot of the ox that draws the carriage. > > > > All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is > founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man > speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a > shadow that never leaves him." (Dhammapada:1-2) > > > > Due to unavoidable importance of lagna and lagnesh, it is assmed > the only junction where Kendara and Trikoon meet. Thus besides > comparing Raja Yoga and Daridra Yoga. The connectivity between > lagn/pada with either of good or evil combination get more > importance. And obviously dasa decides the level of fructification. > Different sort of dasas judge different level of cosmic energy. > > > > Warm Regards > > > > IMRAN > > > > > > > > Sanjay Rath <vyasa@s...> wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > Dear Imran,Bismillah! that was a superb post after a long time in > this list. In fact the importance of the lagna and lagnesh seems to > have been forgotten. Brahma yoga defining the self, the Mahapurusha > yoga aas being the great achievement of a lifetime etc seems to have > taken a back seat in front of 'labhesha' related yogas. There is one > point I want to make. Both good and bad yogas function and both good > and bad happens in life. We cannot say that if Rajyogas are present > and daridra yogas are present and there are more rajyoga then the > native is wealthy or powerful. No the working of karma dictates that > TIME alone is the king. Waqt hi badshah hai - waqt ke din aur raat, > waqt ke kal aur aaj...The dasa will determine as to who shall enjoy > Rajyoga when and duryoga when. I am to cover this topic in its > entirety i the Puri conference (plan for Jan 2004). > > At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha, > > I remain, > > Sanjay Rath > > Mail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, > India > > Tel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; > Personal Web: http://srath.com----- Original Message ----- > Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Sunday, > March 16, 2003 4:24 AMRe: [vedic astrology] Raja Yogas > > > > Dear Farrukh Sahab, > > I pleased to read you, after a long time. > > Though your queries required an authority over jyotish (or one who > have read more or less all available classics, which indeed I > could't yet) > > In my opinion, Jyotish is a qualitative science plus art. So it > should not consider as quantitative, where every thing is countable > or like an computer algorithm. Once Sanjay Rath jee, mentioned that > lots of jyotish classics have lost and still will have to discover. > Thus at this stage one can not computer the exact figure about > number of favourable and unfavourable yogas. > > You said, that lesser number of evil yogas with greater number of > raja yogas may be assumed like 3/4 i.e. 75% is neutralized and > remaining 25% good effect should feel. > > But what happen ! if any person donot see any of 4 favourable > yoga's producing lords? and what about a man who will enjoy all 4 > (or many among) raja yoga's producing lords? > > And as far as matter of weak laganesh and strong dharma and karma > lords is concern, it should be borne in mind that lagna and lagnesh > stand for "I" i.e. everything abuout oneself. > > If "I" or taker is weak and dharmesh & Karmesh i.e. givers are > strong then you can easily judge the whole situation. You may see > lots of wealthy and affulent people but no one know them even in > thier street. This is a case of strong 2+11 houses/padas and weak > 1+9 houses/padas. Similarly a teacher who is full time involved in > his work and get fame due to his knowledge but do not earn a smart > amount is case where we are confronted strong 5+9+10 houses/padas > but weak 11 house/pada. > > So it is impossible to get all sort of happyness at a time. Even a > similar kind of yoga functions with different manner. Some times on > physical plane sometimes on intellectual or sometimes on spiritual > plane. The form and mode of cosmic energy change as the lagna vary > person by person. On the other hand factors like; environment, > family background, living place and "free will" can not ignore at > cost. > > Talib-e-Dua > > IMRAN > > > > > > farrukhnauman <farrukhnauman> wrote: I've got some questions > in my mind. > > 1. Is there any authoritative info on raja yogas? I've seen > > different people writing different kinds of raja yogas. Please > help! > > 2. If there are more raja yogas than the bad yogas (the yogas > > that destroy raja yogas), like if there are 4 raja yogas and 3 > very > > bad yogas, how would you predict about the person's life? Will it > be > > exceptional or will it be just average? Common sense says that 3 > bad > > yogas will balance 3 raja yogas and the 4th raja yoga will take > full > > effect! > > 3. If lord of ascendant is very weak, i.e. combust and placed > in > > 6th, 8th or 12th, but 9th and 10th are essentially strong, and > there > > are only benefics in 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th house, then will these > > planets and their aspects give high status/money and success in > > general to the native? Will the weakness of lord of ascendant be > > overcome by benefic aspects or benefic planets? Furthermore, if > there > > are raja yogas formed by 9th, 10th, Jupiter, Moon, will these raja > > yogas take effect while the lord of ascendant is still weak? > > > > Thanks a lot in advance for your help and attention. > > > > Farrukh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Terms of > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > O SERVANT, where dost thou seek Me? > > Lo! I am beside thee. > > I am neither in temple nor in mosque: I am neither in Kaaba nor in > Kailash: > > Neither am I in rites and ceremonies, nor in Yoga and renunciation. > > If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me: thou shalt > meet Me in a moment of time. > > Kabîr says, "O Sadhu! God is the breath of all breath." > > > > > > > > > > > > Web Hosting - establish your business online > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... 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Guest guest Posted March 29, 2003 Report Share Posted March 29, 2003 Thanks sir! vedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> wrote: > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > Dear Farrukh, > > Namaste. > > As far as I understand it, the clue here lies in analysing the Nabhasa yogas > very thoroughly. I'm sure it's not by chance that Parasara, varahamihira > etc. separated these sets of yogas, saying that they have effect throughout > one's life. The rest of the yogas however tends to give their results in > their respective dashas or natural ages of the planets. Sanjayji made a hint > on Naisargika dasa, which gives more idea as to when will the raja/yogas > connected to different planets and naisargika kaarakas manifest. As for > Gajakesari yoga, I think it will have stronger or weaker effects during > different periods in one's life. > > Yours, > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > gauranga@b... > Jyotish Remedies: > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > - > "farrukhnauman" <farrukhnauman> > <vedic astrology> > Thursday, March 27, 2003 5:55 AM > [vedic astrology] Re: Raja Yogas > > > Dear sir, > Thanks for your answer. I am just curious, that if someone has a very > powerful beneficial yoga, like gaja kesari yoga, shouldn't it take > effect all through that person's life? or will it only take effect > during Jupiter and Moon's respective periods or dasas. > Does it mean that a person having a powerful horoscope has bad times > too, because of bad placed planets? > > With regards, > Farrukh > > > vedic astrology, Gauranga Das <gauranga@b...> > wrote: > > JAYA JAGANNATHA! > > > > Dear Farrukh, > > > > Namaste. > > > > My method is always the following: > > > > 1. First you should pinpoint the Rajayoga Karakas and access their > strength, > > avastha etc. > > 2. Only after this go to various Dasas like Vimsottari, Narayana, > Kalacakra, > > Sudasa, Lagna Kendradi and Moola. These Dasas should be considered > for > > Rajayogas. > > > > A factor that you are mentioning should obviously be taken into > > consideration. There's a natural age for marriage, procreation, > career etc. > > If the dasa shows different results then you should be very careful > as in > > some rare cases a person may enjoy Rajayoga even at 80 years age. > > > > Yours, > > > > Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer > > gauranga@b... > > Jyotish Remedies: > > WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET > > Phone:+36-309-140-839 > > > > > > - > > "farrukhnauman" <farrukhnauman> > > <vedic astrology> > > Wednesday, March 26, 2003 11:52 AM > > [vedic astrology] Re: Raja Yogas > > > > > > Dear Imran, Sanjay Rath and other experts, > > Sorry I couldn't reply earlier. I get what you said. > > But I don't know one thing. How do we find which planet will be > > fruitful in its dasa? > > For example, someone wants fame, how will tell when he will get > > fame? for example, his 10th lord's dasa strts when he is 80 yrs old, > > does it mean he won't get fame ever? > > > > Thanks for your help. > > > > Farrukh > > > > > > vedic astrology, Muhammad Imran > > <astroimran> wrote: > > > > > > Respected Pandit Sanjay Rath, > > > Your point is absolutely right, if the engine is not working > > properly then no one can reach his/her destination on time. It does > > not a matter, how luxurious vehicle of life you are destined. > > > Gautam Buddha beautifully described the cycle of karma as: > > > "All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is > > founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man > > speaks or acts with an evil thought, pain follows him, as the wheel > > follows the foot of the ox that draws the carriage. > > > > > > All that we are is the result of what we have thought: it is > > founded on our thoughts, it is made up of our thoughts. If a man > > speaks or acts with a pure thought, happiness follows him, like a > > shadow that never leaves him." (Dhammapada:1-2) > > > > > > Due to unavoidable importance of lagna and lagnesh, it is assmed > > the only junction where Kendara and Trikoon meet. Thus besides > > comparing Raja Yoga and Daridra Yoga. The connectivity between > > lagn/pada with either of good or evil combination get more > > importance. And obviously dasa decides the level of fructification. > > Different sort of dasas judge different level of cosmic energy. > > > > > > Warm Regards > > > > > > IMRAN > > > > > > > > > > > > Sanjay Rath <vyasa@s...> wrote: Om Gurave Namah > > > Dear Imran,Bismillah! that was a superb post after a long time in > > this list. In fact the importance of the lagna and lagnesh seems to > > have been forgotten. Brahma yoga defining the self, the Mahapurusha > > yoga aas being the great achievement of a lifetime etc seems to have > > taken a back seat in front of 'labhesha' related yogas. There is one > > point I want to make. Both good and bad yogas function and both good > > and bad happens in life. We cannot say that if Rajyogas are present > > and daridra yogas are present and there are more rajyoga then the > > native is wealthy or powerful. No the working of karma dictates that > > TIME alone is the king. Waqt hi badshah hai - waqt ke din aur raat, > > waqt ke kal aur aaj...The dasa will determine as to who shall enjoy > > Rajyoga when and duryoga when. I am to cover this topic in its > > entirety i the Puri conference (plan for Jan 2004). > > > At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha, > > > I remain, > > > Sanjay Rath > > > Mail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, > > India > > > Tel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; > > Personal Web: http://srath.com----- Original Message ----- > > Muhammad Imran vedic astrology Sunday, > > March 16, 2003 4:24 AMRe: [vedic astrology] Raja Yogas > > > > > > Dear Farrukh Sahab, > > > I pleased to read you, after a long time. > > > Though your queries required an authority over jyotish (or one who > > have read more or less all available classics, which indeed I > > could't yet) > > > In my opinion, Jyotish is a qualitative science plus art. So it > > should not consider as quantitative, where every thing is countable > > or like an computer algorithm. Once Sanjay Rath jee, mentioned that > > lots of jyotish classics have lost and still will have to discover. > > Thus at this stage one can not computer the exact figure about > > number of favourable and unfavourable yogas. > > > You said, that lesser number of evil yogas with greater number of > > raja yogas may be assumed like 3/4 i.e. 75% is neutralized and > > remaining 25% good effect should feel. > > > But what happen ! if any person donot see any of 4 favourable > > yoga's producing lords? and what about a man who will enjoy all 4 > > (or many among) raja yoga's producing lords? > > > And as far as matter of weak laganesh and strong dharma and karma > > lords is concern, it should be borne in mind that lagna and lagnesh > > stand for "I" i.e. everything abuout oneself. > > > If "I" or taker is weak and dharmesh & Karmesh i.e. givers are > > strong then you can easily judge the whole situation. You may see > > lots of wealthy and affulent people but no one know them even in > > thier street. This is a case of strong 2+11 houses/padas and weak > > 1+9 houses/padas. Similarly a teacher who is full time involved in > > his work and get fame due to his knowledge but do not earn a smart > > amount is case where we are confronted strong 5+9+10 houses/padas > > but weak 11 house/pada. > > > So it is impossible to get all sort of happyness at a time. Even a > > similar kind of yoga functions with different manner. Some times on > > physical plane sometimes on intellectual or sometimes on spiritual > > plane. The form and mode of cosmic energy change as the lagna vary > > person by person. On the other hand factors like; environment, > > family background, living place and "free will" can not ignore at > > cost. > > > Talib-e-Dua > > > IMRAN > > > > > > > > > farrukhnauman <farrukhnauman> wrote: I've got some questions > > in my mind. > > > 1. Is there any authoritative info on raja yogas? I've seen > > > different people writing different kinds of raja yogas. Please > > help! > > > 2. If there are more raja yogas than the bad yogas (the yogas > > > that destroy raja yogas), like if there are 4 raja yogas and 3 > > very > > > bad yogas, how would you predict about the person's life? Will it > > be > > > exceptional or will it be just average? Common sense says that 3 > > bad > > > yogas will balance 3 raja yogas and the 4th raja yoga will take > > full > > > effect! > > > 3. If lord of ascendant is very weak, i.e. combust and placed > > in > > > 6th, 8th or 12th, but 9th and 10th are essentially strong, and > > there > > > are only benefics in 1st, 4th, 7th, 10th house, then will these > > > planets and their aspects give high status/money and success in > > > general to the native? Will the weakness of lord of ascendant be > > > overcome by benefic aspects or benefic planets? Furthermore, if > > there > > > are raja yogas formed by 9th, 10th, Jupiter, Moon, will these raja > > > yogas take effect while the lord of ascendant is still weak? > > > > > > Thanks a lot in advance for your help and attention. > > > > > > Farrukh > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > O SERVANT, where dost thou seek Me? > > > Lo! I am beside thee. > > > I am neither in temple nor in mosque: I am neither in Kaaba nor in > > Kailash: > > > Neither am I in rites and ceremonies, nor in Yoga and > renunciation. > > > If thou art a true seeker, thou shalt at once see Me: thou shalt > > meet Me in a moment of time. > > > Kabîr says, "O Sadhu! God is the breath of all breath." > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Web Hosting - establish your business online > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > Sponsor > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Terms of > > Service. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Web Hosting - establish your business online > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > ....... 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