Recommending demigod worship (Question to devote-astrologer)

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Dear Chandrashekhar, PVR, Gauranga,

 

But in Chapter 7, Verse 23, Lord Krishna also says:

"Men of small intelligence worship the demigods, and their fruits are

limited and temporary. Those who worship the demigods go to the

planet of the demigods, but My devotees ultimately reach My supreme

planet".

Can you please explain the above statement also? I am not really

trying to find fault - just searching for the truth - I have no

personal experience of it, unfortunately.

 

Also, for the benefit of the less knowledgeable ones like myself,

could please tell us which deites are considered demigods among the

Ishta Devatas?

 

Thank you,

Sundeep

 

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar"

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Gauranga Das,

> I am not an expert in scriptures. But I tend to accept

Narasimharaoji's view point.If I am correct even Lord Krishna said

that "others(Ignorants) worship various demigod and I fulfill their

wishes through them(Demigods)" in Shrimadbhagavad Gita. Horoscope of

different persons would definitely mean that their level in things

spritual would dictate them praying to different Gods and Demigods.

> Chandrashekhar.

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> Friday, March 14, 2003 1:32 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology] Recommending demigod worship (Re:

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> I would refrain from commenting Narasimhas words, as his

intention was not to start a debate, rather to express his

understanding of the Mahrishis and Hindu tradition in the whole.

However I would be interested to hear the comments of Robert Koch Ji

on this question if he reads this and finds some time to comment.

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> Friday, March 14, 2003 1:26 AM

> [vedic astrology] Recommending demigod worship (Re:

Question to devote-astrologer)

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> Om NamoBhagavate Vaasudevaaya

> Namaste friends,

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> > Hello Jyotish,

> >

> > Namaste.

> > I have a question for devote-astrologer. What do you think

about worship to Grahas & Demigods

> > (I mean for devote, who ask some advise from astrologer). We

have a Sharanagati principles and

> > how such worship (to Grahas & Demigods) can be don by devote?

> > If you think that this question is off topic - then, please,

answer to me privately.

> >

> > --

> > Best regards,

> > Vedanta vedavyas@l...

>

> Hinduism is made up of many different religious approaches. I

know that some small sections of the Hindu society look down upon the

worship of grahas and demigods. However, this is not the case with

all the religious approaches within Hinduism.

>

> In fact, Hindu teachers taught us to be humble and to see the

divinity in everyone and everything. An average Hindu worships not

only Vishnu's avataras, but the other so-called "demigods" too. Let

alone demigods, an average Hindu worships even saints and religious

teachers. Even mother and father are supposed to be treated and

worshipped like gods. When a guest comes to your house, the guest

should also be treated as god. Devotion, humility and surrendering

are qualities that purify. Whether they are directed towards the Lord

or his many forms and manifestations (including the so-called

demigods, saints, parents etc), they still have the same benefic

effect of purifying us. Only one who doesn't understand the meaning

of "sarva deva namaskaarah kesavam prati gachchhati" (prayer to all

the deities finally reaches Narayana) will question the worship of

demigods.

>

> While many Hindu scholars taught such humility and respect for

the divinity present everywhere, unfortunately some schools

to an exclusionist thinking and adopt a somewhat fanatical approach

(akin to what is seen in several modern religions). They ban the

worship of "demigods" and look down upon anybody who resorts to it.

What is supposed to be a COMPLETELY HUMBLE SURRENDER to the Lord is

thus transformed into an ARROGANT AND FOOLISH DISMISSAL of His other

forms. This is sad.

>

> When Sage Parasara talked about Ishta devata (the deity who

would give moksha to one), he did not mention Vishnu's avataras.

Instead, he mentioned Shiva for Sun, Gauri for Moon etc. Even Lord

Rama and Lord Krishna - incarnations of Vishnu - worshipped Shiva and

other "demigods". So a good Hindu astrologer will not hesitate tyo

prescribe the worship of "demigods". Worship of demigods has the

sanction of the great Vaishnava - Maharshi Parasara.

>

> I know that some people have already made up their minds and

will attack what I wrote by quoting scriptures and what not. There is

nothing I can do to change their thinking. Quoting scriptures is

useless, because scriptures are a double-edged sword and the

prejudice is deep-rooted, going back by centuries. My only hope in

writing the above is to provoke thinking in those who haven't made up

their mind yet. I have put a lot of thought into each sentence I

wrote above. So, if you are open-minded on this issue, please read

what I wrote above carefully. God bless you!

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Dear Jeff,

I do not know much about Tropical or Sidereal Zodiac. But when one says Sun is

in say Capricorn following sidereal system it actually is in Capricorn and not

Sagitarius as happens when same statement is made using Tropical Zodiac. So

faith does not play much part in it .

Chandrashekhar.

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Jeff

vedic astrology

Friday, March 14, 2003 8:29 AM

[vedic astrology] Recommending demigod worship (Re: Question to devote-astrologer)

Narasimha and group,I am wondering whether the truth lies between sidereal and

tropical intrepratations. I see flaws in the jyotish(sidereal) zodiac. Yet I

see insight as to how they interpret the chart. I think the truth lies in

between. Just where I'm not sure. Hank Friedman.com is a sight I think is

progessive in this matter. Not that his ideas are set in stone by any means. I

know there will be those steadfast to both ends of this debate, but some who

are willing to risk themselves to ridicule from both sides to arrive at a

closer truth. One that doesn't say "you can see anything you want from a

chart". I definitely see something in astrology, but it seems rather infant in

the present condition on both sides. This is not meant to be disrespectful of

hinduism or western(warmongerer types) either one. I find a lot of value in

what I have learned of hinduism and am quickly shedding the skin of westernism

or warmongeringism.Just my observations mind you,Jeff> > I have a question for

devote-astrologer. What do you think about worship to Grahas & Demigods> > (I

mean for devote, who ask some advise from astrologer). We have a Sharanagati

principles and> > how such worship (to Grahas & Demigods) can be don by

devote?> > If you think that this question is off topic - then, please, answer

to me privately.> > > > -- > > Best regards,> > Vedanta

vedavyas@l...> > Hinduism is made up of many different religious

approaches. I know that some small sections of the Hindu society look down upon

the worship of grahas and demigods. However, this is not the case with all the

religious approaches within Hinduism.> > In fact, Hindu teachers taught us to

be humble and to see the divinity in everyone and everything. An average Hindu

worships not only Vishnu's avataras, but the other so-called "demigods" too.

Let alone demigods, an average Hindu worships even saints and religious

teachers. Even mother and father are supposed to be treated and worshipped like

gods. When a guest comes to your house, the guest should also be treated as god.

Devotion, humility and surrendering are qualities that purify. Whether they are

directed towards the Lord or his many forms and manifestations (including the

so-called demigods, saints, parents etc), they still have the same benefic

effect of purifying us. Only one who doesn't understand the meaning of "sarva

deva namaskaarah kesavam prati gachchhati" (prayer to all the deities finally

reaches Narayana) will question the worship of demigods.> > While many Hindu

scholars taught such humility and respect for the divinity present everywhere,

unfortunately some schools to an exclusionist thinking and adopt a

somewhat fanatical approach (akin to what is seen in several modern religions).

They ban the worship of "demigods" and look down upon anybody who resorts to it.

What is supposed to be a COMPLETELY HUMBLE SURRENDER to the Lord is thus

transformed into an ARROGANT AND FOOLISH DISMISSAL of His other forms. This is

sad.> > When Sage Parasara talked about Ishta devata (the deity who would give

moksha to one), he did not mention Vishnu's avataras. Instead, he mentioned

Shiva for Sun, Gauri for Moon etc. Even Lord Rama and Lord Krishna -

incarnations of Vishnu - worshipped Shiva and other "demigods". So a good Hindu

astrologer will not hesitate tyo prescribe the worship of "demigods". Worship of

demigods has the sanction of the great Vaishnava - Maharshi Parasara.> > I know

that some people have already made up their minds and will attack what I wrote

by quoting scriptures and what not. There is nothing I can do to change their

thinking. Quoting scriptures is useless, because scriptures are a double-edged

sword and the prejudice is deep-rooted, going back by centuries. My only hope

in writing the above is to provoke thinking in those who haven't made up their

mind yet. I have put a lot of thought into each sentence I wrote above. So, if

you are open-minded on this issue, please read what I wrote above carefully.

God bless you!> > May Jupiter's light shine on us,> NarasimhaArchives:

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