Guest guest Posted March 13, 2003 Report Share Posted March 13, 2003 I'm puzzled what you mean by 'flaws in the sidereal zodiac'. I can see flaws in an 'our dogma is the only valid one' type of astrology or in the idea that only astrologers in the past had real knowledge, but the sidereal or the tropical zodiac are surely both neutral in that respect. 'Sayana' and 'Nirayana' i.e. tropical or sidereal zodiacs have different purposes. Nirayana is the basic astronomical system and Sayana has a specific annual purpose. If you use the Sayana system for all your astrology then you have a skewed view of a chart and a lot of basic astrology will not work on it. They can not really be equally compared. I think that the problem lies in what people believe astrology to be. From my studies it is clear to me that astrology was once considered as science, in almost the same way as today materialists think of modern science as the only source of valid knowledge. Astrology was the only science in that sense. All knowledge was there, but there was a great skill and usually many years of devotion in learing all of the rules to interpret it and in becoming skilled in the art. Today that real astrology has become fragmented or partly lost. I had a quick look at Hank Friedman's site - very impressive and his information given out on software is really excellent - 6 years ago I went to a lecture he gave on that and he was good then. His site approaches astrological descriptions by two methods - one is simply descriptive and there is a lot of that - fine you can simply examine that and see if you agree or not and how it compares with what you have learnt of the signs, planets, etc. or as astudent you can easily learn from it. However it also uses astrology for the very limited purpose that popular astrology is used for today - i.e. to describe and to give form to the ego, which has no real existence anyway - well it exists, but it is never the same. People are totally emotionally attached to their egos and some astrology today seems to be used principally to heighten their easily manipulable sense of their own always changing and always unreal ego, to which end any untruth will serve perfectly. If it was 4003 AD now and not 2003 people might have woken up to the fact that western astrology (Sayana zodiac) is missing out on the real knowledge, as the western zodiac is moving away from the astronomical positions of planets and the further it goes the more unreal its methods will necessarily become. Regards Gordon Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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