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Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

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Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

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Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

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Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

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Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

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Dear Sarajit,

 

Even I was carrying your opinion on badhaka placement. Until a couple of days

ago, when Visti opined otherwise. If you read that post, he says that badhakas

are a deity's curse and that only their placement in 12H will cushion their

obstruction.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

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Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:05 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

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Jaya Jagannath

Dear Rama,

 

If the badhakesh is placed in the 12th house, it need not be in the

Bhavasandhi for not obstructing someone's life.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

>

> Dear Sarajit,

>

> Even I was carrying your opinion on badhaka placement. Until a couple

of days ago, when Visti opined otherwise. If you read that post, he

says that badhakas are a deity's curse and that only their placement in

12H will cushion their obstruction.

>

> Warm regards,

>

> Ramapriya

> hubli

>

> -

> Sarajit Poddar

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:05 AM

> [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

>

>

> Jaya Jagannath

> Dear Chandrashekhar,

>

> Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi

and weakness of houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and

the bhava sandhi, however the topic of the precious mail was vargottama

and rasi sandhi. Now as of my understanding a planet in paramoccha can

be very good for the house it owns as it is very strong, however its

result as placement in a particular sign does depend on its placement

from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of controversy for

long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the most

accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would

depend on the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the

planet is placed near the cusp then the results are strongly felt,

however if they are placed far from that the results are weakly felt,

and if the planet falls in the fag end of the bhava, i.e., in the

sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or nill. This can be

observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is bald or

have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

>

> Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from

Sag Lagna, which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive

and billious guy, which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the

Bhava Sandhi and is ineffective of giving the results of its placement

in the 9th. The best placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so

that it will not affect any bhava with its placement.

>

> We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in

paramoccha but in bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

>

> Best Regards

> Sarajit

>

>

 

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Hi Sarajit,

 

Y'know how it started? I was thinking that it's best if the badhaka was in

marana karaka sthana so that the effects of his badhaka house get destroyed,

resulting in there being no badha. Visti apparently thought not and came up

with this deity curse thing. Placement in bhava sandhi too should logically

be a perfect spot for the badhaka, I agree.

 

Warm regards,

 

Rama

hubli

 

 

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Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:16 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

 

 

> Jaya Jagannath

> Dear Rama,

>

> If the badhakesh is placed in the 12th house, it need not be in the

> Bhavasandhi for not obstructing someone's life.

>

> Best Wishes

> Sarajit

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Namaste,

Badhaka is generally litened during chart analysis. What is it's practical

significance i..e how it functions.

Moveable, Fixed, and Dual rashis have 11th, 9th and 7th houes with thier lords

as Badhaka respectively. (is it right or not? )

How the lords of gain, baghya, and partner can obsruct the phala?

Is there any connection between Argala and Badhaka?

Regards

Imran

 

Ramapriya D <hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote:

Hi Sarajit,Y'know how it started? I was thinking that it's best if the badhaka

was inmarana karaka sthana so that the effects of his badhaka house get

destroyed,resulting in there being no badha. Visti apparently thought not and

came upwith this deity curse thing. Placement in bhava sandhi too should

logicallybe a perfect spot for the badhaka, I agree.Warm

regards,Ramahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com-"Sarajit Poddar"

<sarajit (AT) (DOT) org><vedic astrology>Tuesday,

March 11, 2003 9:16 AMRe: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava

Sandhi> Jaya Jagannath> Dear Rama,>> If the badhakesh is placed in the 12th

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Imran,

As you may have noticed only Dharmaraja causes troubles to the dead (sthira).

Similarly understand the other states, i.e. moving,dead, recharging.

 

The Badhaka is a very easy predictive tool once learnt. The Badhakesh from Lagna

causes obstructions to the natives ideals, goals, etc as well as health.

 

Now say you wanto see the obstructions in meeting your spouse. The 7th lord

represents the spouse, whilst the 7th house shows the activity of being with

the spouse.

 

Seeing the badhaka to the 7th lord will show the obstructions in meeting ur spouse.

The badhak to the 7th house, will show the obstructions in getting married and etc.

 

For the spiritually minded, check the 9th house and 9th lord. badhaka to the 9th

lord shows obstructions in meeting the Guru.. worship this graha.

 

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Tuesday, March 11, 2003 5:39 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Dear List, Namaste, Badhaka is generally litened during chart analysis. What is

it's practical significance i..e how it functions. Moveable, Fixed, and Dual

rashis have 11th, 9th and 7th houes with thier lords as Badhaka respectively.

(is it right or not? ) How the lords of gain, baghya, and partner can obsruct

the phala? Is there any connection between Argala and Badhaka? Regards Imran

Ramapriya D <hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote: Hi Sarajit,Y'know how it started? I was

thinking that it's best if the badhaka was inmarana karaka sthana so that the

effects of his badhaka house get destroyed,resulting in there being no badha.

Visti apparently thought not and came upwith this deity curse thing. Placement

in bhava sandhi too should logicallybe a perfect spot for the badhaka, I

agree.Warm regards,Ramahubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com-"Sarajit

Poddar" <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org><vedic astrology>Sent:

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 9:16 AMRe: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and

Bhava Sandhi> Jaya Jagannath> Dear Rama,>> If the badhakesh is placed in the

12th house, it need not be in the> Bhavasandhi for not obstructing someone's

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Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:35 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

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Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

Warm Regards

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This is the closest I have, I think. Jupiter is in the 2nd degree of cancer (not

sure what highest point of exaltation is) but is close to bhava sandhi. Jupiter

dasa has been pretty OK for him.

 

Nimmi

 

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Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:35 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

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Dear Sarajit,

Could I refer you to shloka 22 of JatakaParijaat which,in effect, says that

Ruksha(Rasi) sandhi happens at the end of Cancer ,Scorpio and Pisces that too

end of ashlesha jyeshtha and revati.It is also called gandant(Khandaant infact)

and its time is 1ghati.If we take this to be the correct meaning of Sandhi then

the apparent contraindications of Deep exaltations of Planets with Rasi sandhi

based on less degrees irrespective of Rasis disappears.It is said than when

there is an apparent ciontradiction in the statements then one should

rationalise them(Saamanjasya).

Again in the example given by you, I do not understand why should you have a

temper because Mars is in 9th with Sun for sagitarius ascendant(By the way I

too have sagitarius ascendant). It could give you difference of opinion with

father, may be no younger brother,lack of Pitrusukha and could be even

matrusukha or diff in opinion etc. but certainly not high temper. Your Mars

doesnot aspect Ascendant 2nd or 5th house.

Could you let me know why you think Mars in 9th should have given you bad temper?

Believe me I really enjoy your posts as you are very knowledgeble and have an

even temper befitting a lerned astrologer.

Again for a planet to become Badhaka does he not have to be lord of Khar or

Mandi?(shloka 22 Jaataka Paarijaata)

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:05 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

Warm Regards

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Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Believe me I also have the same regards for you. The disagreements are rather

intellectual and not personal. Given a chance, I would like to meet you and we

shall as you are coming to SJC Puri conference.

 

Now I understand what JP says on the Gandanta and that the real inauspicious of

all the sandhis as this is the sandhi of Jala and Agni. Probably if you have

read all the mails of mine, I mentioned this point in one of them, saying that

the grahas are most powerless in those Junctions to save its houses. I see

there is no disagreement with the Gandanta part. However the same planet

whether of not it is powerful to give results of its placement in that house

shall be seen from how far from the Bhavamadhya. This is another issue we

neednot go into.

 

Now like the Gandanta, the other Rasi Sandhis are also inauspicious and can make

the lord weak enough to make them fail to protect their houses. However this

happens to a lesser extent.

 

Now why should Mars in the 9th give me temper! The opinion you have is common as

Malefics placed in a house tends to damage the indications of the house. Now it

is more evident if the planet and the karaka of the house don't go with each

other. Lets not go into that. The shapers of the nature is not only the Lagna

but also the trines to the lagna as they are saha-dharmi. As we all know most

imp of them is the Lagna and placement of the planets there shall show nature

and looks. The 5th house is the house of Chitta (inner Harmony) and shall show

how much we are at peace within and 9th house is the house of dharma and also

show our nature.

 

With Khara, I guess you meant Khara Drekkana (22 Drekkana, 64th Navamsa). Now if

they lord them then the badha is unsurpassable. However, even if they are not

they shall not cease to prove their troublesome nature unless they are placed

in the 12th house. Maharishi Jaimini says that whichever Navamsa the Badhaka is

placed the native shall have troubles based on the nature of the sign of the

said navamsa. I saw it works in almost all the cases, unless I fail to see

other influencing factors.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:47 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Could I refer you to shloka 22 of JatakaParijaat which,in effect, says that

Ruksha(Rasi) sandhi happens at the end of Cancer ,Scorpio and Pisces that too

end of ashlesha jyeshtha and revati.It is also called gandant(Khandaant infact)

and its time is 1ghati.If we take this to be the correct meaning of Sandhi then

the apparent contraindications of Deep exaltations of Planets with Rasi sandhi

based on less degrees irrespective of Rasis disappears.It is said than when

there is an apparent ciontradiction in the statements then one should

rationalise them(Saamanjasya).

Again in the example given by you, I do not understand why should you have a

temper because Mars is in 9th with Sun for sagitarius ascendant(By the way I

too have sagitarius ascendant). It could give you difference of opinion with

father, may be no younger brother,lack of Pitrusukha and could be even

matrusukha or diff in opinion etc. but certainly not high temper. Your Mars

doesnot aspect Ascendant 2nd or 5th house.

Could you let me know why you think Mars in 9th should have given you bad temper?

Believe me I really enjoy your posts as you are very knowledgeble and have an

even temper befitting a lerned astrologer.

Again for a planet to become Badhaka does he not have to be lord of Khar or

Mandi?(shloka 22 Jaataka Paarijaata)

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:05 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

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Dear Nimmi ji and Sarajit ji, Please go through my chart where Guru is 3rd lord

in 3rd house in Vargothama and in Rasi Sandhi and also in Gandanta in Meena

Rasi .

I hope this helps for the analysis of Gandantas and Rasi Sandhis.My Guru dasa

was really good and I prospered in this Dasa. DOB : 23/03/1952 ,TOB : 03:30 :30

AM ,Long.: 74 E 51' ,Lat.: 12 N 52 '

With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:

This is the closest I have, I think. Jupiter is in the 2nd degree of cancer (not

sure what highest point of exaltation is) but is close to bhava sandhi. Jupiter

dasa has been pretty OK for him.

 

Nimmi

 

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vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:35 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

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Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

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vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

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Dear Sarajit,

I too am looking forward to meet you at Puri.I am certain we shall have a

fruitful discussion at that time. I am aware , not all of my views are

d to by the learned members. And we agree to hold on to our individual

interpretations.But as you rightly said it is only with intelectual discussions

that we can hope to achieve a part of the vast knowledge of this divine science

of astrology.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

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vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 5:47 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Believe me I also have the same regards for you. The disagreements are rather

intellectual and not personal. Given a chance, I would like to meet you and we

shall as you are coming to SJC Puri conference.

 

Now I understand what JP says on the Gandanta and that the real inauspicious of

all the sandhis as this is the sandhi of Jala and Agni. Probably if you have

read all the mails of mine, I mentioned this point in one of them, saying that

the grahas are most powerless in those Junctions to save its houses. I see

there is no disagreement with the Gandanta part. However the same planet

whether of not it is powerful to give results of its placement in that house

shall be seen from how far from the Bhavamadhya. This is another issue we

neednot go into.

 

Now like the Gandanta, the other Rasi Sandhis are also inauspicious and can make

the lord weak enough to make them fail to protect their houses. However this

happens to a lesser extent.

 

Now why should Mars in the 9th give me temper! The opinion you have is common as

Malefics placed in a house tends to damage the indications of the house. Now it

is more evident if the planet and the karaka of the house don't go with each

other. Lets not go into that. The shapers of the nature is not only the Lagna

but also the trines to the lagna as they are saha-dharmi. As we all know most

imp of them is the Lagna and placement of the planets there shall show nature

and looks. The 5th house is the house of Chitta (inner Harmony) and shall show

how much we are at peace within and 9th house is the house of dharma and also

show our nature.

 

With Khara, I guess you meant Khara Drekkana (22 Drekkana, 64th Navamsa). Now if

they lord them then the badha is unsurpassable. However, even if they are not

they shall not cease to prove their troublesome nature unless they are placed

in the 12th house. Maharishi Jaimini says that whichever Navamsa the Badhaka is

placed the native shall have troubles based on the nature of the sign of the

said navamsa. I saw it works in almost all the cases, unless I fail to see

other influencing factors.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

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vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 3:47 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Could I refer you to shloka 22 of JatakaParijaat which,in effect, says that

Ruksha(Rasi) sandhi happens at the end of Cancer ,Scorpio and Pisces that too

end of ashlesha jyeshtha and revati.It is also called gandant(Khandaant infact)

and its time is 1ghati.If we take this to be the correct meaning of Sandhi then

the apparent contraindications of Deep exaltations of Planets with Rasi sandhi

based on less degrees irrespective of Rasis disappears.It is said than when

there is an apparent ciontradiction in the statements then one should

rationalise them(Saamanjasya).

Again in the example given by you, I do not understand why should you have a

temper because Mars is in 9th with Sun for sagitarius ascendant(By the way I

too have sagitarius ascendant). It could give you difference of opinion with

father, may be no younger brother,lack of Pitrusukha and could be even

matrusukha or diff in opinion etc. but certainly not high temper. Your Mars

doesnot aspect Ascendant 2nd or 5th house.

Could you let me know why you think Mars in 9th should have given you bad temper?

Believe me I really enjoy your posts as you are very knowledgeble and have an

even temper befitting a lerned astrologer.

Again for a planet to become Badhaka does he not have to be lord of Khar or

Mandi?(shloka 22 Jaataka Paarijaata)

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 6:05 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

Warm Regards

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Dear visti, sarajit,

I think Ramadas Rao's mail proves my point.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

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Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:31 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Nimmi ji and Sarajit ji, Please go through my chart where Guru is 3rd lord

in 3rd house in Vargothama and in Rasi Sandhi and also in Gandanta in Meena

Rasi . I hope this helps for the analysis of Gandantas and Rasi Sandhis.My

Guru dasa was really good and I prospered in this Dasa. DOB : 23/03/1952 ,TOB :

03:30 :30 AM ,Long.: 74 E 51' ,Lat.: 12 N 52 ' With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:

This is the closest I have, I think. Jupiter is in the 2nd degree of cancer (not

sure what highest point of exaltation is) but is close to bhava sandhi. Jupiter

dasa has been pretty OK for him.

 

Nimmi

 

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:35 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

Warm Regards

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Dear Ramadas and Chandrashekhar

 

+--------------+|Su Me | |AL

| ||Ju | | | || |

| | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ve Ra |

|GL || | | ||

| | || | |

|| | | ||-----------|

Rasi |-----------||As Mo | |Ke ||

| | || |

| || | | || |

|

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||HL |Md Gk |Ma

|SaR || | | | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

|+--------------+ Body Longitude

Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

Lagna 15 Cp 24' 38.06" Srav 2 Cp TaSun - DK 9 Pi

02' 16.01" UBha 2 Pi ViMoon - AK 29 Cp 46' 14.64" Dhan 2

Cp ViMars - MK 25 Li 14' 36.26" Visa 2 Li TaMercury - BK

26 Pi 21' 49.76" Reva 3 Pi AqJupiter - AmK 27 Pi 58' 04.42" Reva

4 Pi PiVenus - GK 14 Aq 36' 00.19" Sata 3 Aq AqSaturn

® - PK 19 Vi 10' 09.76" Hast 3 Vi GeRahu - PiK 5 Aq 55'

45.73" Dhan 4 Aq ScKetu 5 Le 55' 45.73" Makh 2

Le Ta

 

 

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Maha Dasas:

 

Mar: 1948-11-08 (5:38:36 am) - 1955-11-09 (12:48:02 am) Rah: 1955-11-09

(12:48:02 am) - 1973-11-08 (3:31:44 pm) Jup: 1973-11-08 (3:31:44 pm) -

1989-11-08 (5:55:25 pm) Sat: 1989-11-08 (5:55:25 pm) - 2008-11-08 (2:53:52 pm)

Mer: 2008-11-08 (2:53:52 pm) - 2025-11-08 (11:25:14 pm) Ket: 2025-11-08

(11:25:14 pm) - 2032-11-08 (6:35:54 pm) Ven: 2032-11-08 (6:35:54 pm) -

2052-11-08 (9:30:51 pm) Sun: 2052-11-08 (9:30:51 pm) - 2058-11-09 (10:31:03 am)

Moo: 2058-11-09 (10:31:03 am) - 2068-11-09 (12:00:57 am)

 

 

In the horoscope, Jupiter is in Gandanta and Moon is in Rasi Sandhi and hence a

good chart to study, specifically when you have mentioned that the dasa of the

planet has been good. Now when a planet is weak, the dasa of the enemies shall

cause the houses of the weak lord to suffer, if the enemy aspects, placed there

or in kendra or kona from the house owned by the weak planet. Generally the

matter related to the house owned by the weak planet doesn't suffer during its

own dasa. However, the natural significations of the weak planet shall suffer.

Now there are two things, the gandanta position of Jup can affect the health of

the person signified by the persons such as Guru or grandfather or father's

elder brother. Now you can tell whether any of them suffered during the dasa

of Jupiter.

 

About other natural significations and the house placement, the vargottamamsa of

Jup can make good things to happen. Jupiter is placed with the 6th and 8th lord

Merc and Sun in the 3rd house showing that you could have enjoyed sudded rise

as they form a VRY, and Jup associating with them.

 

However the effect of gandanta and weakness of the houses would have been more

prominent in the Rahu dasa, it being the greatest enemy of Jup aspecting its

house, which occured between 1955 to 1973, as Rahu is aspecting Pisces. Now

this would happen in the antar of the planet conjoining, dispositing, placed in

kendra from Rahu. Thus the antar of Ven, Sat and Mars would have been bad.

Rahu's own antar also would have been bad to some extent for significations of

the 12th and 3rd houses. This might show that you had many sleepless nights,

troubles abroad etc. or troubles to your brothers or co-borns etc.

 

Please tell us more what happened during these antar.

 

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Rah MD: 1955-11-09 (12:48:02 am) - 1973-11-08 (3:31:44 pm)

 

Antardasas in this MD:

 

Rah: 1955-11-09 (12:48:02 am) - 1958-07-21 (3:07:14 am) Jup: 1958-07-21

(3:07:14 am) - 1960-12-13 (9:42:12 pm) Sat: 1960-12-13 (9:42:12 pm) -

1963-10-22 (1:47:22 am) Mer: 1963-10-22 (1:47:22 am) - 1966-05-06 (11:31:19

pm) Ket: 1966-05-06 (11:31:19 pm) - 1967-05-25 (9:46:52 pm) Ven: 1967-05-25

(9:46:52 pm) - 1970-05-25 (4:15:38 pm) Sun: 1970-05-25 (4:15:38 pm) -

1971-04-18 (5:54:42 pm) Moo: 1971-04-18 (5:54:42 pm) - 1972-10-21 (9:13:02 am)

Mar: 1972-10-21 (9:13:02 am) - 1973-11-08 (3:31:44 pm)

 

 

More after you reply back.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:33 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Dear visti, sarajit,

I think Ramadas Rao's mail proves my point.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:31 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Nimmi ji and Sarajit ji, Please go through my chart where Guru is 3rd lord

in 3rd house in Vargothama and in Rasi Sandhi and also in Gandanta in Meena

Rasi . I hope this helps for the analysis of Gandantas and Rasi Sandhis.My

Guru dasa was really good and I prospered in this Dasa. DOB : 23/03/1952 ,TOB :

03:30 :30 AM ,Long.: 74 E 51' ,Lat.: 12 N 52 ' With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:

This is the closest I have, I think. Jupiter is in the 2nd degree of cancer (not

sure what highest point of exaltation is) but is close to bhava sandhi. Jupiter

dasa has been pretty OK for him.

 

Nimmi

 

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:35 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

Warm Regards

S. Prabhakaran

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Dear Ramadas,

 

3L Ju in 3H in gandanta should actually be pretty bad news, because it's also in

marana karaka sthana. Did something really bad happen to any of your siblings

during Ju's dasa? I don't have your chart but if Ju receives aspect of either

Ma or Sa, I think some sibling would've gotten real close to death...

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

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Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:31 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Nimmi ji and Sarajit ji, Please go through my chart where Guru is 3rd lord

in 3rd house in Vargothama and in Rasi Sandhi and also in Gandanta in Meena

Rasi . I hope this helps for the analysis of Gandantas and Rasi Sandhis.My

Guru dasa was really good and I prospered in this Dasa. DOB : 23/03/1952 ,TOB :

03:30 :30 AM ,Long.: 74 E 51' ,Lat.: 12 N 52 ' With best regards, Ramadas Rao

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Dear Sarajit,

I think contra results are given by inimical /weak planet in its Antardasha in

its own Mahadasha. I do not remember any reference to weak/inimical planet's

enemy's dasha giving the results which are inimical.

I could be wrong, but the logic behind the statement is not clear to me. Is this

rule applicable everywhere? I mean Mars in 8th in Sandhi would give good results

but Saturn will give bad results for a person with Libra Ascendant,with respect

to a lady's saubhagya? Kindly amplify.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

Chandrashekhar

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Thursday, March 13, 2003 6:51 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Ramadas and Chandrashekhar

 

+--------------+|Su Me | |AL

| ||Ju | | | || |

| | || | | |

|| | | |

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||Ve Ra |

|GL || | | ||

| | || | |

|| | | ||-----------|

Rasi |-----------||As Mo | |Ke ||

| | || |

| || | | || |

|

||-----------+-----------------------+-----------||HL |Md Gk |Ma

|SaR || | | | ||

| | | || | | |

|| | | |

|+--------------+ Body Longitude

Nakshatra Pada Rasi Navamsa

Lagna 15 Cp 24' 38.06" Srav 2 Cp TaSun - DK 9 Pi

02' 16.01" UBha 2 Pi ViMoon - AK 29 Cp 46' 14.64" Dhan 2

Cp ViMars - MK 25 Li 14' 36.26" Visa 2 Li TaMercury - BK

26 Pi 21' 49.76" Reva 3 Pi AqJupiter - AmK 27 Pi 58' 04.42" Reva

4 Pi PiVenus - GK 14 Aq 36' 00.19" Sata 3 Aq AqSaturn

® - PK 19 Vi 10' 09.76" Hast 3 Vi GeRahu - PiK 5 Aq 55'

45.73" Dhan 4 Aq ScKetu 5 Le 55' 45.73" Makh 2

Le Ta

 

 

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Maha Dasas:

 

Mar: 1948-11-08 (5:38:36 am) - 1955-11-09 (12:48:02 am) Rah: 1955-11-09

(12:48:02 am) - 1973-11-08 (3:31:44 pm) Jup: 1973-11-08 (3:31:44 pm) -

1989-11-08 (5:55:25 pm) Sat: 1989-11-08 (5:55:25 pm) - 2008-11-08 (2:53:52 pm)

Mer: 2008-11-08 (2:53:52 pm) - 2025-11-08 (11:25:14 pm) Ket: 2025-11-08

(11:25:14 pm) - 2032-11-08 (6:35:54 pm) Ven: 2032-11-08 (6:35:54 pm) -

2052-11-08 (9:30:51 pm) Sun: 2052-11-08 (9:30:51 pm) - 2058-11-09 (10:31:03 am)

Moo: 2058-11-09 (10:31:03 am) - 2068-11-09 (12:00:57 am)

 

 

In the horoscope, Jupiter is in Gandanta and Moon is in Rasi Sandhi and hence a

good chart to study, specifically when you have mentioned that the dasa of the

planet has been good. Now when a planet is weak, the dasa of the enemies shall

cause the houses of the weak lord to suffer, if the enemy aspects, placed there

or in kendra or kona from the house owned by the weak planet. Generally the

matter related to the house owned by the weak planet doesn't suffer during its

own dasa. However, the natural significations of the weak planet shall suffer.

Now there are two things, the gandanta position of Jup can affect the health of

the person signified by the persons such as Guru or grandfather or father's

elder brother. Now you can tell whether any of them suffered during the dasa

of Jupiter.

 

About other natural significations and the house placement, the vargottamamsa of

Jup can make good things to happen. Jupiter is placed with the 6th and 8th lord

Merc and Sun in the 3rd house showing that you could have enjoyed sudded rise

as they form a VRY, and Jup associating with them.

 

However the effect of gandanta and weakness of the houses would have been more

prominent in the Rahu dasa, it being the greatest enemy of Jup aspecting its

house, which occured between 1955 to 1973, as Rahu is aspecting Pisces. Now

this would happen in the antar of the planet conjoining, dispositing, placed in

kendra from Rahu. Thus the antar of Ven, Sat and Mars would have been bad.

Rahu's own antar also would have been bad to some extent for significations of

the 12th and 3rd houses. This might show that you had many sleepless nights,

troubles abroad etc. or troubles to your brothers or co-borns etc.

 

Please tell us more what happened during these antar.

 

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Rah MD: 1955-11-09 (12:48:02 am) - 1973-11-08 (3:31:44 pm)

 

Antardasas in this MD:

 

Rah: 1955-11-09 (12:48:02 am) - 1958-07-21 (3:07:14 am) Jup: 1958-07-21

(3:07:14 am) - 1960-12-13 (9:42:12 pm) Sat: 1960-12-13 (9:42:12 pm) -

1963-10-22 (1:47:22 am) Mer: 1963-10-22 (1:47:22 am) - 1966-05-06 (11:31:19

pm) Ket: 1966-05-06 (11:31:19 pm) - 1967-05-25 (9:46:52 pm) Ven: 1967-05-25

(9:46:52 pm) - 1970-05-25 (4:15:38 pm) Sun: 1970-05-25 (4:15:38 pm) -

1971-04-18 (5:54:42 pm) Moo: 1971-04-18 (5:54:42 pm) - 1972-10-21 (9:13:02 am)

Mar: 1972-10-21 (9:13:02 am) - 1973-11-08 (3:31:44 pm)

 

 

More after you reply back.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:33 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Dear visti, sarajit,

I think Ramadas Rao's mail proves my point.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:31 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Nimmi ji and Sarajit ji, Please go through my chart where Guru is 3rd lord

in 3rd house in Vargothama and in Rasi Sandhi and also in Gandanta in Meena

Rasi . I hope this helps for the analysis of Gandantas and Rasi Sandhis.My

Guru dasa was really good and I prospered in this Dasa. DOB : 23/03/1952 ,TOB :

03:30 :30 AM ,Long.: 74 E 51' ,Lat.: 12 N 52 ' With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:

This is the closest I have, I think. Jupiter is in the 2nd degree of cancer (not

sure what highest point of exaltation is) but is close to bhava sandhi. Jupiter

dasa has been pretty OK for him.

 

Nimmi

 

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:35 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

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` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Chandrashekhar ji,Visti ji ,Sarajitji, and others, Now here I want to add

something.As I said Guru is my 3rd lord in 3rd house ,Vargothama but in

Gandanta and Rasi Sandhi also.So Guru has to give the results of his position

of this Gandanta.Here now I follow some new method which is slightly different

from traditional method.Now Guru Dasa is running and see any planet in Guru's

Nakshtra.In my chart ,Kuja the 4th an 11th lord Bhadhaka is in 10th in digbala

placed in Vishakha Nakshatra (Tula 25 deg.21' ) .Now Kuja has to give the

reuslts in Guru dasa.Kuja is the Karaka for co-borns.Guru is 3rd lord in 3rd

house and also 12th lord indicating Mrityu or Moksha .3rd house also indicates

younger co-borns.Also Kuja is in 8th from Dasa lord Guru .So he gave the maraka

results and Guru also gave Gandanta results of my younger brother got expired

during Guru Dasa who was mentally retarded.Now see the period of his death.I am

not going to any Shoola Dasa .It is very simple.As I wrote above Kuja has to

give results in Guru dasa.Now see any planet in Kuja's Nakshatra.In my chart

,Chandra is in Makara Lagna in the nakshatra of Dhanishta ruled by Kuja.So

Chandra has to give the results of Kuja during Chandra Dasa or Antara Dasa.Guru

Dasa- Chandra's Antara was running from 14-2-1985 to 16-6-1986.Shani's

pratyantara was running between 9-9-1985 and 25-11-1985 .Shani is Mrityu Karaka

and from 3rd house (Meena ) he is 11th and 12th lord placed in 7th which is a

maraka in Kanya Rasi and it is during this period my younger brother expired

on 31-10-1985 due to high pneumonia ( Blocking of lungs with cough and finally

loss of breath ). I hope this helps everybody. With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear visti, sarajit,

I think Ramadas Rao's mail proves my point.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

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Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:31 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Nimmi ji and Sarajit ji, Please go through my chart where Guru is 3rd lord

in 3rd house in Vargothama and in Rasi Sandhi and also in Gandanta in Meena

Rasi . I hope this helps for the analysis of Gandantas and Rasi Sandhis.My

Guru dasa was really good and I prospered in this Dasa. DOB : 23/03/1952 ,TOB :

03:30 :30 AM ,Long.: 74 E 51' ,Lat.: 12 N 52 ' With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:

This is the closest I have, I think. Jupiter is in the 2nd degree of cancer (not

sure what highest point of exaltation is) but is close to bhava sandhi. Jupiter

dasa has been pretty OK for him.

 

Nimmi

 

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vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:35 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

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Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

Warm Regards

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` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Sarajit Ji,

Ok now I will explain what all happened during my Rahu Dasa .The Antara of Rahu

was actually good in the sense almost in 1957 ,I was in 1st standard and I

remember still now that I stood 1st in my class.Even in running race I got 1st

prize.My explantion for this is the Yoga Karaka Shukra is with Rahu and Shukra

himself is placed in Shatabhisha ruled by Rahu and is also Vargothama.As these

planets are in 11th from 4th ,got good marks in the final exam. and got the

prize also.Now Rahu is in the nakshatra of Dhanishta ruled by Kuja who is in

Digbala in 10th and this has made me to get 1st prize in Running race.(Kuja

Karaka for sports also ).

Now Rahu Dasa- Shani's antara :between 1960 and 1963.Yes this beginning period

was very bad for health.Of course Rahu and Shani are in 6-8 position.But my

analysis says Surya who is 8th lord is placed in 3rd in the nakshatra of

Uttarabhadrapada ruled by Shani and Shani aspects Surya also.Shani is Lagna

Lord and 2nd lord ( 11th from 4th house ).In Dec.1960,I suffered from severe

Typhoid and I heard from my parents that they lost hope about my life.Then they

performed Hanuman Pooja and Shani Japam ,then after about 3 months ,I got

recovered from this diease.Surya indicates high temperatures and as he is

afflicted by being in the nakshatra of Shani ,my health got affected and hence

my education but anyhow as my performance was good in previous exams.I was

promoted to next class.At this time of 1960,Shani was transitting over 12th

from My Lagna and Chandra but Guru was also in Dhanu and as a result I got

recovered.

Now coming to the Antara of Shukra which ran between 1967 May and 1970,May 25

was considered a very good period in my education and I got 1st class in 10th

standard S.S.L.C. exam.,then the next P.U.C. also I passed with 1st class and

then I joined B.Sc.See Kuja is in 10th in Digbala indicating Science.Here my

explanation is also Shukra ,the Yoga Karaka is with Rahu has given good results

concerned to education as 2nd is 11th to 4th house.I completed my B.Sc.in 1971

during Surya's Antara and result got in Chandra's Antara .

Now Kuja's Antara in Rahu Dasa was between 21-10-1972 and 8-11-1973. Kuja is in

10th in Digbala and as I already indicated he is Karaka for Science and during

this Antara I was working in a Soap Manufacturing company as Chemist.But as

Kuja is in the Nkashatra of Vishaka ruled by Guru who is with Surya and Budha

,before the Antara ended in 1973 ,August 17th ,I joined Mangalore Chemicals &

Fertilizers Ltd.a Joint sector company at that time.After that Guru Dasa came

and my prosperity started .These are my life interpretations during Rahu Dasa.

I hope this helps.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

Jaya Jagannath

Dear Ramadas and Chandrashekhar

 

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Cp ViMars - MK 25 Li 14' 36.26" Visa 2 Li TaMercury - BK

26 Pi 21' 49.76" Reva 3 Pi AqJupiter - AmK 27 Pi 58' 04.42" Reva

4 Pi PiVenus - GK 14 Aq 36' 00.19" Sata 3 Aq AqSaturn

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Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Maha Dasas:

 

Mar: 1948-11-08 (5:38:36 am) - 1955-11-09 (12:48:02 am) Rah: 1955-11-09

(12:48:02 am) - 1973-11-08 (3:31:44 pm) Jup: 1973-11-08 (3:31:44 pm) -

1989-11-08 (5:55:25 pm) Sat: 1989-11-08 (5:55:25 pm) - 2008-11-08 (2:53:52 pm)

Mer: 2008-11-08 (2:53:52 pm) - 2025-11-08 (11:25:14 pm) Ket: 2025-11-08

(11:25:14 pm) - 2032-11-08 (6:35:54 pm) Ven: 2032-11-08 (6:35:54 pm) -

2052-11-08 (9:30:51 pm) Sun: 2052-11-08 (9:30:51 pm) - 2058-11-09 (10:31:03 am)

Moo: 2058-11-09 (10:31:03 am) - 2068-11-09 (12:00:57 am)

 

 

In the horoscope, Jupiter is in Gandanta and Moon is in Rasi Sandhi and hence a

good chart to study, specifically when you have mentioned that the dasa of the

planet has been good. Now when a planet is weak, the dasa of the enemies shall

cause the houses of the weak lord to suffer, if the enemy aspects, placed there

or in kendra or kona from the house owned by the weak planet. Generally the

matter related to the house owned by the weak planet doesn't suffer during its

own dasa. However, the natural significations of the weak planet shall suffer.

Now there are two things, the gandanta position of Jup can affect the health of

the person signified by the persons such as Guru or grandfather or father's

elder brother. Now you can tell whether any of them suffered during the dasa

of Jupiter.

 

About other natural significations and the house placement, the vargottamamsa of

Jup can make good things to happen. Jupiter is placed with the 6th and 8th lord

Merc and Sun in the 3rd house showing that you could have enjoyed sudded rise

as they form a VRY, and Jup associating with them.

 

However the effect of gandanta and weakness of the houses would have been more

prominent in the Rahu dasa, it being the greatest enemy of Jup aspecting its

house, which occured between 1955 to 1973, as Rahu is aspecting Pisces. Now

this would happen in the antar of the planet conjoining, dispositing, placed in

kendra from Rahu. Thus the antar of Ven, Sat and Mars would have been bad.

Rahu's own antar also would have been bad to some extent for significations of

the 12th and 3rd houses. This might show that you had many sleepless nights,

troubles abroad etc. or troubles to your brothers or co-borns etc.

 

Please tell us more what happened during these antar.

 

 

Vimsottari Dasa (started from Moon):

 

Rah MD: 1955-11-09 (12:48:02 am) - 1973-11-08 (3:31:44 pm)

 

Antardasas in this MD:

 

Rah: 1955-11-09 (12:48:02 am) - 1958-07-21 (3:07:14 am) Jup: 1958-07-21

(3:07:14 am) - 1960-12-13 (9:42:12 pm) Sat: 1960-12-13 (9:42:12 pm) -

1963-10-22 (1:47:22 am) Mer: 1963-10-22 (1:47:22 am) - 1966-05-06 (11:31:19

pm) Ket: 1966-05-06 (11:31:19 pm) - 1967-05-25 (9:46:52 pm) Ven: 1967-05-25

(9:46:52 pm) - 1970-05-25 (4:15:38 pm) Sun: 1970-05-25 (4:15:38 pm) -

1971-04-18 (5:54:42 pm) Moo: 1971-04-18 (5:54:42 pm) - 1972-10-21 (9:13:02 am)

Mar: 1972-10-21 (9:13:02 am) - 1973-11-08 (3:31:44 pm)

 

 

More after you reply back.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Thursday, March 13, 2003 3:33 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Dear visti, sarajit,

I think Ramadas Rao's mail proves my point.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

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Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:31 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Nimmi ji and Sarajit ji, Please go through my chart where Guru is 3rd lord

in 3rd house in Vargothama and in Rasi Sandhi and also in Gandanta in Meena

Rasi . I hope this helps for the analysis of Gandantas and Rasi Sandhis.My

Guru dasa was really good and I prospered in this Dasa. DOB : 23/03/1952 ,TOB :

03:30 :30 AM ,Long.: 74 E 51' ,Lat.: 12 N 52 ' With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:

This is the closest I have, I think. Jupiter is in the 2nd degree of cancer (not

sure what highest point of exaltation is) but is close to bhava sandhi. Jupiter

dasa has been pretty OK for him.

 

Nimmi

 

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:35 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

Warm Regards

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Dear Ramapriya,

You are correct.just see my post for details.It was my yonger brother's death.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

Ramapriya D <hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com> wrote:

Dear Ramadas,

 

3L Ju in 3H in gandanta should actually be pretty bad news, because it's also in

marana karaka sthana. Did something really bad happen to any of your siblings

during Ju's dasa? I don't have your chart but if Ju receives aspect of either

Ma or Sa, I think some sibling would've gotten real close to death...

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

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-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:31 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Nimmi ji and Sarajit ji, Please go through my chart where Guru is 3rd lord

in 3rd house in Vargothama and in Rasi Sandhi and also in Gandanta in Meena

Rasi . I hope this helps for the analysis of Gandantas and Rasi Sandhis.My

Guru dasa was really good and I prospered in this Dasa. DOB : 23/03/1952 ,TOB :

03:30 :30 AM ,Long.: 74 E 51' ,Lat.: 12 N 52 ' With best regards, Ramadas

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Dear Sarajit,Ramdasraoji,

As you can find from Ramadas Raoji's mail it is Guru's friend Mars who gave bad

results of 3rd bhava and not Guru's enemy.

Thanks to Ramdasraoji for his detailed post.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Friday, March 14, 2003 10:47 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Chandrashekhar ji,Visti ji ,Sarajitji, and others, Now here I want to add

something.As I said Guru is my 3rd lord in 3rd house ,Vargothama but in

Gandanta and Rasi Sandhi also.So Guru has to give the results of his position

of this Gandanta.Here now I follow some new method which is slightly different

from traditional method.Now Guru Dasa is running and see any planet in Guru's

Nakshtra.In my chart ,Kuja the 4th an 11th lord Bhadhaka is in 10th in digbala

placed in Vishakha Nakshatra (Tula 25 deg.21' ) .Now Kuja has to give the

reuslts in Guru dasa.Kuja is the Karaka for co-borns.Guru is 3rd lord in 3rd

house and also 12th lord indicating Mrityu or Moksha .3rd house also indicates

younger co-borns.Also Kuja is in 8th from Dasa lord Guru .So he gave the maraka

results and Guru also gave Gandanta results of my younger brother got expired

during Guru Dasa who was mentally retarded.Now see the period of his death.I am

not going to any Shoola Dasa .It is very simple.As I wrote above Kuja has to

give results in Guru dasa.Now see any planet in Kuja's Nakshatra.In my chart

,Chandra is in Makara Lagna in the nakshatra of Dhanishta ruled by Kuja.So

Chandra has to give the results of Kuja during Chandra Dasa or Antara Dasa.Guru

Dasa- Chandra's Antara was running from 14-2-1985 to 16-6-1986.Shani's

pratyantara was running between 9-9-1985 and 25-11-1985 .Shani is Mrityu Karaka

and from 3rd house (Meena ) he is 11th and 12th lord placed in 7th which is a

maraka in Kanya Rasi and it is during this period my younger brother expired

on 31-10-1985 due to high pneumonia ( Blocking of lungs with cough and finally

loss of breath ). I hope this helps everybody. With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear visti, sarajit,

I think Ramadas Rao's mail proves my point.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:31 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Nimmi ji and Sarajit ji, Please go through my chart where Guru is 3rd lord

in 3rd house in Vargothama and in Rasi Sandhi and also in Gandanta in Meena

Rasi . I hope this helps for the analysis of Gandantas and Rasi Sandhis.My

Guru dasa was really good and I prospered in this Dasa. DOB : 23/03/1952 ,TOB :

03:30 :30 AM ,Long.: 74 E 51' ,Lat.: 12 N 52 ' With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:

This is the closest I have, I think. Jupiter is in the 2nd degree of cancer (not

sure what highest point of exaltation is) but is close to bhava sandhi. Jupiter

dasa has been pretty OK for him.

 

Nimmi

 

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:35 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

Warm Regards

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` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Chandrashekhar Ji,

You are most welcome.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear Sarajit,Ramdasraoji,

As you can find from Ramadas Raoji's mail it is Guru's friend Mars who gave bad

results of 3rd bhava and not Guru's enemy.

Thanks to Ramdasraoji for his detailed post.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Friday, March 14, 2003 10:47 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Chandrashekhar ji,Visti ji ,Sarajitji, and others, Now here I want to add

something.As I said Guru is my 3rd lord in 3rd house ,Vargothama but in

Gandanta and Rasi Sandhi also.So Guru has to give the results of his position

of this Gandanta.Here now I follow some new method which is slightly different

from traditional method.Now Guru Dasa is running and see any planet in Guru's

Nakshtra.In my chart ,Kuja the 4th an 11th lord Bhadhaka is in 10th in digbala

placed in Vishakha Nakshatra (Tula 25 deg.21' ) .Now Kuja has to give the

reuslts in Guru dasa.Kuja is the Karaka for co-borns.Guru is 3rd lord in 3rd

house and also 12th lord indicating Mrityu or Moksha .3rd house also indicates

younger co-borns.Also Kuja is in 8th from Dasa lord Guru .So he gave the maraka

results and Guru also gave Gandanta results of my younger brother got expired

during Guru Dasa who was mentally retarded.Now see the period of his death.I am

not going to any Shoola Dasa .It is very simple.As I wrote above Kuja has to

give results in Guru dasa.Now see any planet in Kuja's Nakshatra.In my chart

,Chandra is in Makara Lagna in the nakshatra of Dhanishta ruled by Kuja.So

Chandra has to give the results of Kuja during Chandra Dasa or Antara Dasa.Guru

Dasa- Chandra's Antara was running from 14-2-1985 to 16-6-1986.Shani's

pratyantara was running between 9-9-1985 and 25-11-1985 .Shani is Mrityu Karaka

and from 3rd house (Meena ) he is 11th and 12th lord placed in 7th which is a

maraka in Kanya Rasi and it is during this period my younger brother expired

on 31-10-1985 due to high pneumonia ( Blocking of lungs with cough and finally

loss of breath ). I hope this helps everybody. With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear visti, sarajit,

I think Ramadas Rao's mail proves my point.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:31 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Nimmi ji and Sarajit ji, Please go through my chart where Guru is 3rd lord

in 3rd house in Vargothama and in Rasi Sandhi and also in Gandanta in Meena

Rasi . I hope this helps for the analysis of Gandantas and Rasi Sandhis.My

Guru dasa was really good and I prospered in this Dasa. DOB : 23/03/1952 ,TOB :

03:30 :30 AM ,Long.: 74 E 51' ,Lat.: 12 N 52 ' With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:

This is the closest I have, I think. Jupiter is in the 2nd degree of cancer (not

sure what highest point of exaltation is) but is close to bhava sandhi. Jupiter

dasa has been pretty OK for him.

 

Nimmi

 

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:35 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

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Jaya JagannathNamaskar Chandrashekharji and Ramadasji,

 

There is no disagreement here. When a planet is in Marana Avastha, the karaka of

that house becomes inimical and brings about the death related to the planet in

marana avastha. Now even if Jupiter is a friend of Mars, Jupiter doesn't enjoy

the violence of mars signified as the 3rd house karaka. Now the method given by

Ramadas is the method of Jeeva and I fully agree to it. Mars being in the

nakshatra of Jupiter shall drive the results of Jupiter in Jup's dasa.

 

Now the death related matters are to be seen from the sthira karaka, the sthira

karaka for younger co-born is Mars.Now the Dasa lord Jupiter is the 3rd and 6th

lord and is very evil for younger brother. However, at the first glance it is

not clear, why Moon's antardasa, who is the 10th lord placed in the 4th house

from sthira bhratrikaraka. Anyone who can bring death to the brother is the 2nd

or 7th lord from the stira bhratrikaraka Mars, which happens to be Mars, Ketu

and Venus. Now a planet can also give the results of the nakshatra dispositor

and as Ramadasji explains, happens to be Mars for the Moon antar.

 

What I wanted to point that Mars can give the results even if it is a friend of

Jupiter, thats why I mentioned this could very well happened in Mars antar of

Rahu dasa.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:35 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Dear Sarajit,Ramdasraoji,

As you can find from Ramadas Raoji's mail it is Guru's friend Mars who gave bad

results of 3rd bhava and not Guru's enemy.

Thanks to Ramdasraoji for his detailed post.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Friday, March 14, 2003 10:47 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Chandrashekhar ji,Visti ji ,Sarajitji, and others, Now here I want to add

something.As I said Guru is my 3rd lord in 3rd house ,Vargothama but in

Gandanta and Rasi Sandhi also.So Guru has to give the results of his position

of this Gandanta.Here now I follow some new method which is slightly different

from traditional method.Now Guru Dasa is running and see any planet in Guru's

Nakshtra.In my chart ,Kuja the 4th an 11th lord Bhadhaka is in 10th in digbala

placed in Vishakha Nakshatra (Tula 25 deg.21' ) .Now Kuja has to give the

reuslts in Guru dasa.Kuja is the Karaka for co-borns.Guru is 3rd lord in 3rd

house and also 12th lord indicating Mrityu or Moksha .3rd house also indicates

younger co-borns.Also Kuja is in 8th from Dasa lord Guru .So he gave the maraka

results and Guru also gave Gandanta results of my younger brother got expired

during Guru Dasa who was mentally retarded.Now see the period of his death.I am

not going to any Shoola Dasa .It is very simple.As I wrote above Kuja has to

give results in Guru dasa.Now see any planet in Kuja's Nakshatra.In my chart

,Chandra is in Makara Lagna in the nakshatra of Dhanishta ruled by Kuja.So

Chandra has to give the results of Kuja during Chandra Dasa or Antara Dasa.Guru

Dasa- Chandra's Antara was running from 14-2-1985 to 16-6-1986.Shani's

pratyantara was running between 9-9-1985 and 25-11-1985 .Shani is Mrityu Karaka

and from 3rd house (Meena ) he is 11th and 12th lord placed in 7th which is a

maraka in Kanya Rasi and it is during this period my younger brother expired

on 31-10-1985 due to high pneumonia ( Blocking of lungs with cough and finally

loss of breath ). I hope this helps everybody. With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear visti, sarajit,

I think Ramadas Rao's mail proves my point.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:31 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Nimmi ji and Sarajit ji, Please go through my chart where Guru is 3rd lord

in 3rd house in Vargothama and in Rasi Sandhi and also in Gandanta in Meena

Rasi . I hope this helps for the analysis of Gandantas and Rasi Sandhis.My

Guru dasa was really good and I prospered in this Dasa. DOB : 23/03/1952 ,TOB :

03:30 :30 AM ,Long.: 74 E 51' ,Lat.: 12 N 52 ' With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:

This is the closest I have, I think. Jupiter is in the 2nd degree of cancer (not

sure what highest point of exaltation is) but is close to bhava sandhi. Jupiter

dasa has been pretty OK for him.

 

Nimmi

 

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:35 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

-

Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

-

Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

Warm Regards

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` ¬I— k«:[ay nm>,

Dear Sarajit ji,

Thank you for your explanation.Here one small correction is that Guru is the

lord of 3rd and 12th for Makara Lagna.So normally I analyse in this way.I think

this may be a simple way to expalin and through Karakas.

For your information,In August 1985 ,I visited India on vcation and at that time

I checked my brother's palm also and I showed it to my father and told him that

there is a big line is crossing the line of heart,head and life and going

towards Lower mount of Mars under the Index finger and base of Thumb.Then I

calculated and told my father that ,this year is the most critical period for

him and if he passes this year,then he becomes normal and will study and lead a

normal life.But as I wrote previously unfortunately my younger brother expired

on the same year 1985 ,October 31.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

Sarajit Poddar <sarajit (AT) (DOT) org> wrote:

Jaya JagannathNamaskar Chandrashekharji and Ramadasji,

 

There is no disagreement here. When a planet is in Marana Avastha, the karaka of

that house becomes inimical and brings about the death related to the planet in

marana avastha. Now even if Jupiter is a friend of Mars, Jupiter doesn't enjoy

the violence of mars signified as the 3rd house karaka. Now the method given by

Ramadas is the method of Jeeva and I fully agree to it. Mars being in the

nakshatra of Jupiter shall drive the results of Jupiter in Jup's dasa.

 

Now the death related matters are to be seen from the sthira karaka, the sthira

karaka for younger co-born is Mars.Now the Dasa lord Jupiter is the 3rd and 6th

lord and is very evil for younger brother. However, at the first glance it is

not clear, why Moon's antardasa, who is the 10th lord placed in the 4th house

from sthira bhratrikaraka. Anyone who can bring death to the brother is the 2nd

or 7th lord from the stira bhratrikaraka Mars, which happens to be Mars, Ketu

and Venus. Now a planet can also give the results of the nakshatra dispositor

and as Ramadasji explains, happens to be Mars for the Moon antar.

 

What I wanted to point that Mars can give the results even if it is a friend of

Jupiter, thats why I mentioned this could very well happened in Mars antar of

Rahu dasa.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 16, 2003 3:35 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Dear Sarajit,Ramdasraoji,

As you can find from Ramadas Raoji's mail it is Guru's friend Mars who gave bad

results of 3rd bhava and not Guru's enemy.

Thanks to Ramdasraoji for his detailed post.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Friday, March 14, 2003 10:47 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Chandrashekhar ji,Visti ji ,Sarajitji, and others, Now here I want to add

something.As I said Guru is my 3rd lord in 3rd house ,Vargothama but in

Gandanta and Rasi Sandhi also.So Guru has to give the results of his position

of this Gandanta.Here now I follow some new method which is slightly different

from traditional method.Now Guru Dasa is running and see any planet in Guru's

Nakshtra.In my chart ,Kuja the 4th an 11th lord Bhadhaka is in 10th in digbala

placed in Vishakha Nakshatra (Tula 25 deg.21' ) .Now Kuja has to give the

reuslts in Guru dasa.Kuja is the Karaka for co-borns.Guru is 3rd lord in 3rd

house and also 12th lord indicating Mrityu or Moksha .3rd house also indicates

younger co-borns.Also Kuja is in 8th from Dasa lord Guru .So he gave the maraka

results and Guru also gave Gandanta results of my younger brother got expired

during Guru Dasa who was mentally retarded.Now see the period of his death.I am

not going to any Shoola Dasa .It is very simple.As I wrote above Kuja has to

give results in Guru dasa.Now see any planet in Kuja's Nakshatra.In my chart

,Chandra is in Makara Lagna in the nakshatra of Dhanishta ruled by Kuja.So

Chandra has to give the results of Kuja during Chandra Dasa or Antara Dasa.Guru

Dasa- Chandra's Antara was running from 14-2-1985 to 16-6-1986.Shani's

pratyantara was running between 9-9-1985 and 25-11-1985 .Shani is Mrityu Karaka

and from 3rd house (Meena ) he is 11th and 12th lord placed in 7th which is a

maraka in Kanya Rasi and it is during this period my younger brother expired

on 31-10-1985 due to high pneumonia ( Blocking of lungs with cough and finally

loss of breath ). I hope this helps everybody. With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Dear visti, sarajit,

I think Ramadas Rao's mail proves my point.

Regards,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Wednesday, March 12, 2003 10:31 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

` ¬I— ³:[ay nm>,

Dear Nimmi ji and Sarajit ji, Please go through my chart where Guru is 3rd lord

in 3rd house in Vargothama and in Rasi Sandhi and also in Gandanta in Meena

Rasi . I hope this helps for the analysis of Gandantas and Rasi Sandhis.My

Guru dasa was really good and I prospered in this Dasa. DOB : 23/03/1952 ,TOB :

03:30 :30 AM ,Long.: 74 E 51' ,Lat.: 12 N 52 ' With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

Nimmi Ragavan <106350.3660 (AT) compuserve (DOT) com> wrote:

This is the closest I have, I think. Jupiter is in the 2nd degree of cancer (not

sure what highest point of exaltation is) but is close to bhava sandhi. Jupiter

dasa has been pretty OK for him.

 

Nimmi

 

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 12:35 AM

[vedic astrology] Paramoccha and Bhava Sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Actually there are two things which went on, one the rasi sandhi and weakness of

houses owned and another the result of paramoccha and the bhava sandhi, however

the topic of the precious mail was vargottama and rasi sandhi. Now as of my

understanding a planet in paramoccha can be very good for the house it owns as

it is very strong, however its result as placement in a particular sign does

depend on its placement from the Bhava Cusp. Now the bhava has been a topic of

controversy for long and we are yet to know which way of house division is the

most accurate one, so I shall not go into that. However, I would like to

mention that the strength of result of placement of a planet would depend on

the placement of the planet from the bhava cusp; thus if the planet is placed

near the cusp then the results are strongly felt, however if they are placed

far from that the results are weakly felt, and if the planet falls in the fag

end of the bhava, i.e., in the sandhi zone, the results will be bare minimum or

nill. This can be observed that not all the persons who has Sun in the Lagna is

bald or have eye problems, this can be better explained by this as in different

cases, Sun would be in different places with respect to the lagna cusp.

 

Now in my horoscope, I have Mars and Sun in the trine in Leo from Sag Lagna,

which would have made me a very short-tempered, aggressive and billious guy,

which I am not. This is because Mars is placed in the Bhava Sandhi and is

ineffective of giving the results of its placement in the 9th. The best

placement of a badhaka is in the Bhava sandhi so that it will not affect any

bhava with its placement.

 

We can see a horoscope, in which the native has a planet in paramoccha but in

bhava sandhi. Nimmi, do you have one such chart!

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

-

Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 11, 2003 3:09 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Sarajit,

Are we not confusing Bhavasandhi with Parmoccha and Balyavastha.The topic, if I

remember right started from Avasthas of planets.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sarajit Poddar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 6:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Jaya JagannathDear Chandrashekhar,

 

Maharishis have said many things which can be applied together to find out the

combined influence on the native. Now we all know that a planet gives result of

two things its placement in a house/ sign and its lordship. If the lord of a

house is well placed in the horoscope such as exaltation, kendra/ kona from

Lagna etc., then the bhava prospers. Its possible that the planets can give one

of the results more efficiently than others. This we can find out through the

sandhis. If a planet is placed in the Rasi sandhi, even if it is in exaltation,

it will fail to protect its house as it would happen if a planet has lost

planetary war. Now for most of the horoscopes it is true that the exalted

planet of a house has always protected the house, the case we are discussing is

more like an exception. Among all sandhis the Gandantas are the most

inauspicious ones and can completely destroy the house it owns and hence the

matters of the house. We can see this in various horoscopes.

 

Members, please contribute some horoscopes to try out this principle.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

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Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Monday, March 10, 2003 1:26 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Do you think the sages forgot to mention your contention when they enumerated

the results of planets in exaltation? I do not think so.

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Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Sunday, March 09, 2003 2:19 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

Dear Chandrashekar,

 

These are orthogonal concepts. Such a moon will still be capable of giving good

results due to its exaltation, but it will also destroy the house owned by it

due to its placement in rasi sandhi.

 

ajit

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Chandrashekhar

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 11:21 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Dear Ajit,

Does this mean Moon in parmoccha amshas of3degrees Taurus is in fact not capable

of any results though in deep exaltation? Think again.

Chandrashekhar.

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Ajit Krishnan

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 8:33 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

hamsa om soham

 

One of the classical definitions of a rasi / bhava is that it consists of

exactly 9 nakshatra padas. From this definition, we can determine both rasi

sandhi (last nakshatra pada in a rasi) and bhava sandhi (last nakshatra pada in

nakshatra-pada-aligned bhavas). Notice that sandhi according to this defnition

applies to both the first and last 3:20' in a rasi/bhava.

 

Grahas in rasi sandhi lose the power to do anything good for the houses it owns.

Grahas in bhava sandhi are free of placement responsibilities and does not gives

the results of the house it is placed in. Gandanta is a case of violent rasi

sandhi between watery and fiery houses. Thus, it is capable of showing the

overthrow of a king (losing power) etc.

 

There are many things hidden in these concepts. As an example: 2/3's of all

vargottama grahas be placed in bhava sandhi !

 

ajit (the other one :-))

 

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Ramapriya D

vedic astrology

Saturday, March 08, 2003 4:42 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Hi Sanjay,

 

I'm pretty sure I haven't till now heard what you've stated here. I remember

reading that planets in rasi sandhis get to be utterly powerless due to their

avastha. As far as I know (and that's very little), this aspect of them

spoiling the effect of the houses they own is true only for planets in

gandantas. What you've said is for all rasi sandhis in general, and that's new

to me.

 

Warm regards,

 

Ramapriya

hubli (AT) vsnl (DOT) com

 

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Sanjay Prabhakaran

vedic astrology

Friday, March 07, 2003 11:07 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] vargottama and rashi sandhi

Om Gurave Namah,

Dear Ajit,

Planets in Rashi sandhi (0 to 1 degrees is taken as sandhi here) tend to

destroy the house they own. So the third house (effort, fighting spirit,

younger siblings etc ) some of the matter could be destroyed.

Pray to Naxatra Diety here it is Goddess Aditi (Om Adityai Namah) could give

some releife. More over since it's the sun , you are born in Sankrati so you

have sankranti dosha make diety of lord of the day you were born and do pooja.

Exact pooja procedure should be known and done from a pundit.

 

If this reading benifits you please try to donate some money to the temple or

any religous organization.

 

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