About learning/getting better in Jyotish

March 4, 2003

Dear List Members,

The Classical Jyotish Texts are apparently full of data on Jyotish

parameters like if the lord of such house is posited in such house

and aspected thus, this has the indication... etc.

It seems practically not possible to memorize and keep in mind and

use for predictions such seemingly infinite data. So what is the

logic and aim here?

Is the student of Jyotish expected to derive for himself more

underlying principles (in addition to the basic principles) as he

goes through such data and examples.

Or, by practicing and learning in this manner, the ability to "see"

gets improved, so the student actually need not intellectually

remember all the data he has gone through, but the process has helped

him in his ability to perceive the truth reflected by charts? and he

will by intuition remember or even use without remembering these

relations or facts thought by the classical texts?

Thanks in advance for any responses,

Sabri.

March 4, 2003

It is only after long study, and repeated application on different charts, that

one will recall the basic priciples, and apply them.

For the modern student, the Basic Principles can be put on a computer programme,

and one the data of the chart is fed in, the basic priciples applicable, can be

found out. The only thing in such a study, is that all results/predictions have

to be synthesised into one single, prediction. Here one needs study and

INTUTION. The defect of this system is that, once a coputer programme is

available, every one will have a go, and start a commercial prediction center,

without bothering to study, and sythesise the individual indications.

The computer can also be used to classify, the priciples, and to recall them easily.

good luck

"Sabri <korua (AT) efes (DOT) net.tr>" <korua (AT) efes (DOT) net.tr> wrote:

Dear List Members,The Classical Jyotish Texts are apparently full of data on

Jyotish parameters like if the lord of such house is posited in such house and

aspected thus, this has the indication... etc.It seems practically not possible

to memorize and keep in mind and use for predictions such seemingly infinite

data. So what is the logic and aim here?Is the student of Jyotish expected to

derive for himself more underlying principles (in addition to the basic

principles) as he goes through such data and examples.Or, by practicing and

learning in this manner, the ability to "see" gets improved, so the student

actually need not intellectually remember all the data he has gone through, but

the process has helped him in his ability to perceive the truth reflected by

charts? and he will by intuition remember or even use without remembering these

relations or facts thought by the classical texts?Thanks in advance for any

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March 4, 2003

Dear Sabri,

Indeed, Jyotish is an ocean of rules, parameters, combinations and most of

all many controversies.

>From any known view point (physical or mental/psychological) there is no way

one can measure a humans memory capacity. We can not attribute a number of

Gigabytes to one person and only a few megabytes to another...

Some people can "store" and retrieve huge amounts of data while others can

hardly recall yesterdays events.

Certain functions in the brain sort and store data which "it" finds

important and or reusable

Now, as with everything one can train and improve a "weak" memory up to a

certain degree and if this fails (as it does now and than) one can be helped

by certain devices like storing data on a hand held computer (like the Palm)

and have it "stand-by" in your pocket.

However, saying that does not mean that you can store EVERYTHING on an

electronic device.

You must learn and memories the basic rules and attributes of Jyotish

issues. All important basics included!

Once you've done that I believe that a device like the Palm can be a

blessing (that goes actually for everyone).

Besides "charting on the move" one can have most of the classics on that

"poor" Palm as a reference (reducing ~6-7 Kg' of books into 185 grams in the

pocket...).

Further, one can store important notes until they are memorized.

Sure a great help to any astrologer who like to be on the 'safe side' of

his/her memory cells.

I hope this gives you an idea...

Kind regards

Jay Weiss

P.S. This mail is by no means an advertisement for any type of hand held

computer device!

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<korua

Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:18 AM

[vedic astrology] About learning/getting better in Jyotish

> Dear List Members,

>

> The Classical Jyotish Texts are apparently full of data on Jyotish

> parameters like if the lord of such house is posited in such house

> and aspected thus, this has the indication... etc.

>

> It seems practically not possible to memorize and keep in mind and

> use for predictions such seemingly infinite data. So what is the

> logic and aim here?

>

> Is the student of Jyotish expected to derive for himself more

> underlying principles (in addition to the basic principles) as he

> goes through such data and examples.

>

> Or, by practicing and learning in this manner, the ability to "see"

> gets improved, so the student actually need not intellectually

> remember all the data he has gone through, but the process has helped

> him in his ability to perceive the truth reflected by charts? and he

> will by intuition remember or even use without remembering these

> relations or facts thought by the classical texts?

>

> Thanks in advance for any responses,

>

> Sabri.

>

> ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us .......

>

> Your use of is subject to

>

March 4, 2003

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Jay,

The Memory is eternal and everlasting.

However its the level of awareness which determines whether the link between

consciousness and memory, is good or not. From this point of view we determine

whether the native has a strong memory or not.

When the memory becomes thoroughly advanced, we start to remember more than what

has happened in the current birth.. infact it is the awareness which enables

this to happen-

Jyotishis have the greatest memory because they spend so much time with Jupiter.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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Jay Weiss

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 04, 2003 1:02 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] About learning/getting better in Jyotish

Dear Sabri,Indeed, Jyotish is an ocean of rules, parameters, combinations and

most ofall many controversies.From any known view point (physical or

mental/psychological) there is no wayone can measure a humans memory capacity.

We can not attribute a number ofGigabytes to one person and only a few

megabytes to another...Some people can "store" and retrieve huge amounts of

data while others canhardly recall yesterdays events.Certain functions in the

brain sort and store data which "it" findsimportant and or reusableNow, as with

everything one can train and improve a "weak" memory up to acertain degree and

if this fails (as it does now and than) one can be helpedby certain devices

like storing data on a hand held computer (like the Palm)and have it "stand-by"

in your pocket.However, saying that does not mean that you can store EVERYTHING

on anelectronic device.You must learn and memories the basic rules and

attributes of Jyotishissues. All important basics included!Once you've done

that I believe that a device like the Palm can be ablessing (that goes actually

for everyone).Besides "charting on the move" one can have most of the classics

on that"poor" Palm as a reference (reducing ~6-7 Kg' of books into 185 grams in

thepocket...).Further, one can store important notes until they are

memorized.Sure a great help to any astrologer who like to be on the 'safe side'

ofhis/her memory cells.I hope this gives you an idea...Kind regardsJay WeissP.S.

This mail is by no means an advertisement for any type of hand heldcomputer

device!-<korua (AT) efes (DOT) net.tr>To:

<vedic astrology>Tuesday, March 04, 2003 11:18 AMSubject:

[vedic astrology] About learning/getting better in Jyotish> Dear List Members,>>

The Classical Jyotish Texts are apparently full of data on Jyotish> parameters

like if the lord of such house is posited in such house> and aspected thus,

this has the indication... etc.>> It seems practically not possible to memorize

and keep in mind and> use for predictions such seemingly infinite data. So what

is the> logic and aim here?>> Is the student of Jyotish expected to derive for

himself more> underlying principles (in addition to the basic principles) as

he> goes through such data and examples.>> Or, by practicing and learning in

this manner, the ability to "see"> gets improved, so the student actually need

not intellectually> remember all the data he has gone through, but the process

has helped> him in his ability to perceive the truth reflected by charts? and

he> will by intuition remember or even use without remembering these> relations

or facts thought by the classical texts?>> Thanks in advance for any

responses,>> Sabri.>>>>> Archives:

vedic astrology>> Group info:

vedic astrology/info.html>> To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank

mail to vedic astrology->> ....... May Jupiter's light

shine on us .......>> || Om Tat Sat || Sarvam Sri Krishnaarpanamastu

||>> Your use of is subject to

>>>Archives:

vedic astrologyGroup info:

vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank

mail to vedic astrology-........ May Jupiter's light

shine on us .......

March 4, 2003

Dear Visti,

It was not my intension to delve into the subject of "memory" as such as I'll

probably need an entire new life-time for that alone!

However memories are eternal - not the memory function and storage.

Two entirely different issue.

The storage device is the brain, which is temporal for this life and the

memories are eternal and accumulating.

A good example (one of many) is a computer memory chip (the device) which has

nothing to do with the temporal content stored on it (the memories).

Kind regards

jay

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Visti Larsen

vedic astrology

Tuesday, March 04, 2003 2:51 PM