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[ashtakvarga] Ashtakvarga - some misconceptions

Respected Shri V K Chaudhary

I hope that this letter of mine will touch in your best of health. I

have gone through your reply given on my query in "SATVA" list. You

have quoted shloka no.3 from chapter 66 of Brihat Parashar Hora

Shastra (BPH). For the knowledge of all serious seekers of

Ashtakvarga I am doing this little effort to convey the real spirit

of this 3rd Shloka. As per my knowledge one Bhrahmin named

as "Maitrey" used these words about Ashtakvarga and in reply Rishi

Parashara said that now he (Parashara) shall tell to the Maitrey

about the application of this Shashtra (Ashtakvarga) for the benefit

of the humanity. Please note here the wordings "for the benefit of

the humanity".

In the same chapter of BPH Parashara told to the Maitrey that in the

preceding (65) chapters of BPH he has explained that effects are

incrementally good if respective Bhava is occupied or aspected by the

benefic planets or when their lords are in exaltation or in their own

house. The reverse results shall be depicted when the concerned Bhava

is occupied or aspected by malefic etc.

In the later Shloka of BPH he has specifically clarified that due to

minuteness of movements of planets and due to intricacies of

astronomical calculations even the sages like Vashishtha and

Brihaspati are not able to determine their results accurately so how

mortals can draw the results correctly in Kaliyuga. This Shloka

sounds like - "Nishchentu Tann Shaknoti Vashishtho Va Brihaspati; Kin

Punarmanujashatrat Visheshatu Kalo Yugo".

In the next Shloka of BPH, Rishi Parashara has concluded that

predictions from Astrology are of two types - i.e. general and

particular. Rishi has clearly mentioned that general method is to

draw some thing from positions of planets in different Bhavas, while

the special method is Ashtakvarga. The great scholars of Astrology

have clearly admitted that when there is an ambiguity in results

derived from general methods of Astrology then rely over the special

method of AV because the derivation based over AV shall prevail.

Renowned recent authors like Shri C.S. Patel and Shri C.A.S. Aiyer

have given the same view, which followed the sage Parashara. Rishi

Parashara has given the maximum details about AV, while sage like

Varahamihira has given only slight introduction of AV in Ch IX of

Brihat Jataka. Prof. P.S. Shashtri, a contemporary of late shri

B.V.Raman, has clearly emphasized over the importance of AV at the

2nd page of his book "Secrets of Ashtakvarga" mentioning that without

AV it is difficult to assess the good and bad results even by the

best Astrologer. Shri Vinay Aditya an Engineer and a qualified

astrologer explains importance of AV in his book (Dots of destiny) in

these words "AV system has certain originality parallel of which is

not found in any other system, anywhere else in the world".

As far as the application of AV is concerned it was really limited

till recent past due to its intricate calculations but computer

software's have now completely changed the scenario. AV is used now

very aggressively for the purpose of Muhurta, assessment of strength

of combinations and to quantify the promises given by the planets and

houses in the natal horoscope. AV is very effective tool to gauge the

influence and intention of a planet apart of the factor of its

strength drawn by using other principles. The day is not far when all

scholars of analytical bent of mind will find jewels hidden in

the "Samudayashtakvarga" table of horoscope in place of saying that

it is only meant for drawing the transit results.

Majority of astrology scholars of recent times has opinion that AV

can only be applied for the delineation of transit results. Shri B.V.

Raman in his book over AV has mentioned at a place that he met one

astrologer who always gave very accurate snap shot predictions only

on the basis of Samudayashtakvarga. Not only this but also BPH

consists of hundred of yogas based over Samudayashtakvarga and

seekers may try and test them.

As far as the role of degree or ownership of planet is concerned in

deriving the results from AV method, it is clearly explained that all

auspicious or inauspicious points like Bindu or Rekha are derived on

the basis of respective position of all planets from each other as

well as from Lagna. According to AV method, if one planet is lord of

inauspicious house, in debilitation, aspected by malefic or at 0

degree but it has received more auspicious points in its

Prashtarshtakvarga then it will not cause such a negative influence

to the native which may be expected if AV has not been considered. So

the very object of AV is different and it works remarkably well.

For the interest of seekers I wish to give some personal observations

based over the Samudayashtakvarga only. If Moon has not received any

auspicious point in 2nd house then all significations derived on the

basis of blending of Moon and 2nd house of the native shall be

severely and badly effected, such as he may live away from his mother

during his childhood because 2nd house depicts our childhood and moon

signifies the mother. The teeth of such native may have cavities

since his childhood because Moon signifies Calcium and 2nd house

governs mouth etc. It is my personal observation over several

horoscopes.

I am thankful for your kind advice and opinion but re-interpretation

of word "shallow minded person" is welcomed from the side of those

scholars of astrology, which want to explore such a Goldmine

like "Ashtakvarga". When Maitrya says himself "shallow minded" – it

depicts his humbleness before his Guru. It does not mean that Maitrya

was "shallow minded". If exploration of a gold-mine is the work

of "shallow minded", I do not care to be called so myself.

Humbly yours

Arvind Singh

satva, SIHA <siha@v...> wrote:

>

> Hello Mr. Arvind Singh,

>

> Hope this finds you in the best of health and spirits.

>

> If you study the Ashtakvarga you will find that sometime even the

weakest

> planet with zero degree in a particular sign may get the highest

benefic

> Bindus in Ashtakvarga. That does not give

> the true capacity and competence of the planet which is required

for the

> predictive capability.

>

> Let me quote from Brihat Parashar Hora chapter 66 shloka 3:

>

> "As because of sinful deeds committed by people in Kaliyuga their

minds have

> become blunt, be kind enough to describe a method which would

enable even

> the shallow minded persons to ascertain their happinss and sorrows

and

> determine their longevity on the basis of the position of the

planets in

> transit"

>

> The above shows that(i) this is not for those who want to have deep

> knowledge of astrology, (ii) its application is limited; and (iii)

its

> application is mostly in transit.

>

> The ashtakavarga charts of the planets are prepared without

consideration of

> planets being in a malefic or benefic house and without

consideration of the

> functional nature of the planets.

>

> The matters to be considered from the planets are their general

> significations besides considering a particular house from a

particular

> planet without reference to the relevant house from the ascendant.

For

> example under Sun's Ashtakvarga the 9th house from the Sun at the

time of

> birth deals with father.

>

> So on and so forth.

>

> First when the message regarding Ashtakvarga System was posted I

did not

> comment on the same. When my opinion was sought, I just gave my

frank

> opinion and those who wish to explore may explore.

>

> Best wishes,

>