Guest guest Posted February 18, 2003 Report Share Posted February 18, 2003 Dear Group Members, This is just my view on the various comments written by some of you in response to Gauranga.I read some of you wrote...Moksha is rare, a large percentage cannot be achieving it,the combinations are so rare,even some one who mentioned that me and people around me do not have it so how is the precentage reached.This is what I personally feel... Moksha itself is a very personal matter.I have Ketu in the fourth house from my AK but how many people know that,how many of my family members,friends or even people who know me well know how spiritual I really am.So how can we say with gurantee that moksha is rare.Can we be sure that people who dont seem spiritual enough arent or do we really go out and look at enough charts to say that 16 percent of the people will NOT be ready for moksha.Infact people who really may be close to Moksha may not even talk about it much as I said its some thinn personal.Its the evolution of the soul.So if we cant be sure that 16 percent of the people will attain it we also cant be sure about how rare it is or that 16 percent will not attain moksha. The earth is full of various energy levels infact the whole universe or being is.This energy is constantly shifting and evolving and changing so there must be people evolving all the time with the energy.Moksha is an evolution too so it has to be happening in the world some where may be we just dont see it.All we can do is perhaps try to study the given combinations and find out for ourselves instead of straight away jumping to conclusions that it cannot be.I am sure those who do attain moksha have an open mind to views so may be we need to do the same to further research about it. Regards, Kanupriya. _______________ The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 19, 2003 Report Share Posted February 19, 2003 JAYA JAGANNATHA! Dear Kanu Priya, Namaste. For attaining Moksha, one should be free from vices and the reactiopns of sins committed in the past. This is not my criteria, it is states by Sree Krishna in the Bahagad-geeta (7.28.): yeshaam tv anta-gatam paapam janaanaam punya-karmanaam te dvandva-moha-nirmukta bhajante maam dridha-vrataah TRANSLATION Persons who have acted piously in previous lives and in this life and whose sinful actions are completely eradicated are freed from the dualities of delusion, and they engage themselves in My service with determination. PURPORT by Srila Prabhupada: Those eligible for elevation to the transcendental position are mentioned in this verse. For those who are sinful, atheistic, foolish and deceitful, it is very difficult to transcend the duality of desire and hate. Only those who have passed their lives in practicing the regulative principles of religion, who have acted piously and who have conquered sinful reactions can accept devotional service and gradually rise to the pure knowledge of the Supreme Personality of Godhead. Then, gradually, they can meditate in trance on the Supreme Personality of Godhead. That is the process of being situated on the spiritual platform. This elevation is possible in Krishna consciousness in the association of pure devotees, for in the association of great devotees one can be delivered from delusion. It is stated in the Sreemad-Bhaagavatam (5.5.2) that if one actually wants to be liberated he must render service to the devotees (mahat-sevaam dvaaram aahur vimukteh); but one who associates with materialistic people is on the path leading to the darkest region of existence (tamo-dvaaram yoshitaah sangi-sangam). All the devotees of the Lord traverse this earth just to recover the conditioned souls from their delusion. The impersonalists do not know that forgetting their constitutional position as subordinate to the Supreme Lord is the greatest violation of God's law. Unless one is reinstated in his own constitutional position, it is not possible to understand the Supreme Personality or to be fully engaged in His transcendental loving service with determination. Another Shloka (12.6-7): ye tu sarvaani karmaani mayi sannyasya mat-paraah ananyenaiva yogena maam dhyaayanta upaasate teshaam aham samuddhartaa mrityu-samsaara-saagaraat bhavaami na ciraat paartha mayy aaveshita-cetasaam TRANSLATION But those who worship Me, giving up all their activities unto Me and being devoted to Me without deviation, engaged in devotional service and always meditating upon Me, having fixed their minds upon Me, O son of Plthä-for them I am the swift deliverer from the ocean of birth and death. PURPORT by Srila Prabhupada It is explicitly stated here that the devotees are very fortunate to be delivered very soon from material existence by the Lord. In pure devotional service one comes to the realization that God is great and that the individual soul is subordinate to Him. His duty is to render service to the Lord-and if he does not, then he will render service to maayaa. As stated before, the Supreme Lord can be appreciated only by devotional service. Therefore, one should be fully devoted. One should fix his mind fully on Klnëa in order to achieve Him. One should work only for Krishna. It does not matter in what kind of work one engages, but that work should be done only for Krishna. That is the standard of devotional service. The devotee does not desire any achievement other than pleasing the Supreme Personality of Godhead. His life's mission is to please Krishna, and he can sacrifice everything for Krishna's satisfaction, just as Arjuna did in the Battle of Kurukshetra. The process is very simple: one can devote himself in his occupation and engage at the same time in chanting Hare Krishna, Hare Krishna, Krishna Krishna, Hare Hare/ Hare Raama, Hare Raama, Raama Raama, Hare Hare. Such transcendental chanting attracts the devotee to the Personality of Godhead. So it is very simple: those who give up sinful habits (I'm sure you know what is meant here) and engane themselves in Lord Krishna's service without deviaton are eligible for Moskha. Now tell me please how many people around you you know to be like that? Yours, Gauranga Das Vedic Astrologer gauranga Jyotish Remedies: WWW.BRIHASPATI.NET Phone:+36-309-140-839 - "kanu priya" <barish44 <vedic astrology> Wednesday, February 19, 2003 8:03 AM [vedic astrology] Moksha combination > > > Dear Group Members, > This is just my view on the various comments written by > some of you in response to Gauranga.I read some of you wrote...Moksha is > rare, a large percentage cannot be achieving it,the combinations are so > rare,even some one who mentioned that me and people around me do not have it > so how is the precentage reached.This is what I personally feel... > Moksha itself is a very personal matter.I have Ketu in > the fourth house from my AK but how many people know that,how many of my > family members,friends or even people who know me well know how spiritual I > really am.So how can we say with gurantee that moksha is rare.Can we be sure > that people who dont seem spiritual enough arent or do we really go out and > look at enough charts to say that 16 percent of the people will NOT be ready > for moksha.Infact people who really may be close to Moksha may not even talk > about it much as I said its some thinn personal.Its the evolution of the > soul.So if we cant be sure that 16 percent of the people will attain it we > also cant be sure about how rare it is or that 16 percent will not attain > moksha. > The earth is full of various energy levels infact the > whole universe or being is.This energy is constantly shifting and evolving > and changing so there must be people evolving all the time with the > energy.Moksha is an evolution too so it has to be happening in the world > some where may be we just dont see it.All we can do is perhaps try to study > the given combinations and find out for ourselves instead of straight away > jumping to conclusions that it cannot be.I am sure those who do attain > moksha have an open mind to views so may be we need to do the same to > further research about it. > Regards, > Kanupriya. > > > _______________ > The new MSN 8: advanced junk mail protection and 2 months FREE* > http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail > > > > > > > > > ....... 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