Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 Namaste all,Here is the birthdata of George W. Bush as rectified by me:6th July 1946, 7:38:30 (4:00:00 west of GMT), 72 W 55', 41 N 18'The most important yoga in the chart is between Moon and Jupiter. Moon and Jupiter conjoin within 1 deg 20 min. This close conjunction gives Gaja-Kesari yoga and promises lasting fame. They also give Lakshmi yoga and promise fortune. Moreover, Moon is yogada - he owns lagna and aspects GL (ghati lagna - power and authority). Conjunction of lagna lord (Moon) and GL lord (Jupiter), with both aspecting GL, is a potent yoga for power. Moreover, Moon is the dispositor of Mercury, Venus and Saturn, who give Vesi yoga, Tapaswi yoga and a raja yoga (conjunction of AK and PiK in lagna or 5th gives a raja yoga. Here Venus is AK and Mercury is PiK and both occupy Cancer lagna). So Moon can trigger all those yogas, in addition to the yogas he directly takes part in. Clearly, Moon dasa should bring him power and trigger a lot of nice yogas. When he became US president in 2000-01, he MUST have been running Moon dasa. If we get another dasa, it means we are most probably not using the right dasa system! Based on the normal Vimsottari dasa, he was running Saturn-Rahu period at the time he became US president. One can make a case for anything in hindsight, but I do not think there is a STRONG case for Saturn-Rahu. If we use the standard Vimsottari dasa, we will be forced to accept vague reasoning at times. By using the right variation, we can always provide very crisp and clear logic. I made the same point in my classes at "Achyuta Jyotish Workshop" (go to http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/workshop to buy the CD containing 12 hr 25 min of classes and 55 min of prayers). To progress as astrologers, we should be honest and look for a better case when the case is weak. * * * Moon has only two planets in quadrants from him, but lagna has three. So, as per the teachings of Pt. Sanjay Rath (see his landmark book "Vimsottari & Udu Dasa" released recently), Lagna Vimsottari dasa applies here (it is the variation of Vimsottari dasa seeded from lagna instead of Moon). The calculations are given below: Vimsottari Dasa (started from lagna): Moo MD: 1996-10-24 (11:03:38) - 2006-10-25 (0:31:55) Antardasas in this MD: Moo: 1996-10-24 (11:03:38) - 1997-08-24 (11:30:36) Mar: 1997-08-24 (11:30:36) - 1998-03-22 (4:10:38) Rah: 1998-03-22 (4:10:38) - 1999-09-24 (20:47:55)> Jup: 1999-09-24 (20:47:55) - 2001-01-21 (8:31:06) <<<> Sat: 2001-01-21 (8:31:06) - 2002-08-24 (18:07:34) <<<> Mer: 2002-08-24 (18:07:34) - 2004-01-22 (2:57:39) <<< Ket: 2004-01-22 (2:57:39) - 2004-08-24 (6:27:27) Ven: 2004-08-24 (6:27:27) - 2006-04-21 (17:08:47) Sun: 2006-04-21 (17:08:47) - 2006-10-25 (0:31:55) In addition to the yogas in rasi chart, Moon is in the 5th in D-10 with lagna lord and 10th lord. Jupiter is the 5th lord in D-10. He is placed in GL and aspects lagna. All this very well explains the power he got in Moon-Jupiter dasa. Saturn is debilitated in AL and shows the image of an average person, an ignorant person (or "moron" as the Canadian PM's secretary supposedly called him). With AL being in Aries, it also shows an aggressive image. This Saturn is weak being in debilitation. He receives neecha bhanga from Venus who joins Moon. As a result, in Venus pratyantardasa of Moon-Saturn dasa (Aug 18-Nov 22, 2001), his image received a boost. Mercury antardasa in Moon dasa started in the middle of last year. Being the 6th lord in lagna in D-6, in the 12th from dasa lord Moon, Mercury will not allow his antardasa to be smooth. There will continue to be worries and threats from enemies. In D-10, Moon has an argala on the 7th house containing A3. A3 shows the physical manifestation of one's boldness and initiative. It is a tangible thing resulting from one's boldness. In the case of a leader, it can show war threats and war. Because of his argala on it, Moon can give such results in his dasa, which are likely to come in the antardasas of planets with graha drishti on it. Saturn, being the lord of A3 in Aq, brought a limited war in Afghanistan in his antardasa. Mercury aspects A3 in Aq from Leo. Thus his antardasa in Moon dasa will bring the acts of boldness. Venus PD runs during Dec 5, 2002-Feb 27, 2003. With Venus being the 3rd lord from Mercury and placed in a fiery sign, he engages in bold planning. Next PD of Sun (Feb 27- Mar 24, 2003) brings success, as Sun is the 1st lord in 5th from Mercury. Though his actions now may make him look passionate and aggressive, he will seem like a charming victor in March. * * * An examination of D-11 and its Mandooka dasa makes me concerned. In Bush's D-11, Cn rises and Aq is the 8th house. The 8th lord Saturn is in Aq, while the other 8th lord Rahu is in Sg. Bush's Mandooka dasa is shown below: Mandooka dasa of D-11 (an ayur dasa showing wars and destruction): Aq MD: 2001-07-06 (9:54:17) - 2009-07-06 (11:03:11) Antardasas in this MD: > Sg: 2001-07-06 (9:54:17) - 2002-03-05 (4:00:45) <<< Cp: 2002-03-05 (4:00:45) - 2002-11-07 (0:10:20)> Aq: 2002-11-07 (0:10:20) - 2003-07-06 (22:06:42) <<< Pi: 2003-07-06 (22:06:42) - 2004-03-04 (16:10:50) Ar: 2004-03-04 (16:10:50) - 2004-11-06 (12:29:53) Ta: 2004-11-06 (12:29:53) - 2005-07-06 (10:33:48) Ge: 2005-07-06 (10:33:48) - 2006-03-05 (4:28:25) Cn: 2006-03-05 (4:28:25) - 2006-11-07 (0:50:25) Le: 2006-11-07 (0:50:25) - 2007-07-06 (22:45:41) Vi: 2007-07-06 (22:45:41) - 2008-03-04 (16:43:13) Li: 2008-03-04 (16:43:13) - 2008-11-06 (13:10:23) Sc: 2008-11-06 (13:10:23) - 2009-07-06 (11:03:11) Aq is the 8th house. Sg is Rudra Dwara using Rahu as the 8th lord. Mandooka dasa of rulers can be used for timing death and destruction faced by nations and success/failure in wars etc. Aq-Sg antardasa brought a big terrorist attack in New York City. Current Aq-Aq is also a dangerous period. Another big attack or even a danger to Bush himself cannot be ruled out until July 6, 2003. Especially, Cn pratyantardasa during March 25-April 14 and Vi pratyantardasa during May are ominous.* * *His 2002-03 annual Tithi Pravesha (TP) chart is cast for 18th June 2002, 1:57:12 (4:00:00 west of GMT), 72 W 55', 41 N 18'.He runs Mercury's Tithi Ashtottari (TA) dasa from 24th Dec 2002 to 21st Feb 2003. Mercury is badhakesha and functional malefic in rasi chart. He is the lord of AL and is ill-placed in the 12th from AL. He gives loss in popularity and setbacks. However, being in the 3rd house from lagna, he gives boldness. With Mercury, Saturn and Rahu being together, Mercury and Rahu exchange their beneficence. So Mercury works like Rahu and makes Bush very bold, manipulative, vicious and vengeful (qualities of Rahu). In D-10, Mercury is a functional malefic and occupies badhaka sthana. He shows opposition from intelligent people.Saturn dasa runs during 21st Feb-28th Mar, 2003. Saturn is well-placed in the 12th from AL in rasi chart and gives raja yoga. Saturn is the 6th lord in D-10 showing fights and wars. Saturn is with Mandi in D-10 and he will make the native commit sins against other people in his career. [Note: Mandi makes us commit sins towards other - i.e. give poison to others - and Gulika makes us receive punishment for our sins - i.e. receive poison from others.]Even though Saturn is a functional malefic in D-10, he is well-placed in the 6th house from AL and shows success. In all likelihood, the war will start soon after Feb 21 and will end quickly. Bush will be victorious and also the war will be justified after the fact, silencing the critics in the international community.* * *However, this may not be the end of the problem of terrorism or threats to world peace.As long as Bush runs Aq Mandooka dasa (and continues as President), there may not be any subsiding of threat. May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 17, 2003 Report Share Posted February 17, 2003 Namaste Narasimha, I completely forgot that we had Saddam's chart. I knew that I had seen it. Saddam.jpg His Vimshottari planetary period is Moon-Venus. His Venus may be exalted in the ascendent, but it is the lord of two maraka, death- inflicting houses. The Moon in a sign of Mars,with Mars and Rahu, really speak of a paranoid mind bathed inviolence. His sick, mental karma is activated now more than ever because the major Moon period is active. The Moon is debilitated, so is Rahu. This takes place in the house offortune andluck. So he should experience an eclipsing of his fortune at this time, which is the end of the major Moon period. According to Chara dasha, which is a sign-based system of timing events ( I know you know that! ), he is going to under the influence of the signs Capricorn and Aquarius, the two last signs of the horoscope, representing loss and the end. His longevity is not so good in the first place because Saturn afflicts the ascendent as a bad lord of two houses. And this Saturn afflicts Venus, the lord of the house of longevity. According to the sign-based system of timing events known as Sthira, the periods are Scorpio-Pisces. Pisces contains Venus and Saturn, so it crops up again. It doesn't look good for Saddam. The planetary periods for Bush are so much better, the Jupiter sub period is a real eye-opener. Except that the aspect of Saturn on Jupiter takes away from longevity in the end. It is Saturn-Jupiter right now. Saturn has certain strengths. It aspects its own sign in a quadrant, indicating a sort of mahapurush yoga. Remember that is was the judiciary ( Saturn ) that gave him the presidency, and some successful cheating, thanks to Rahu as the sub period lord, exalted in the house of gains. Thus it is not true that the Saturn-Rahu period could not have justified his winning the presidency. Dharmapad vedic astrology, "Narasimha P.V.R. Rao" <pvr@c...> wrote: > Namaste all, > > Here is the birthdata of George W. Bush as rectified by me: > > 6th July 1946, 7:38:30 (4:00:00 west of GMT), 72 W 55', 41 N 18' > > The most important yoga in the chart is between Moon and Jupiter. Moon and Jupiter conjoin within 1 deg 20 min. This close conjunction gives Gaja-Kesari yoga and promises lasting fame. They also give Lakshmi yoga and promise fortune. Moreover, Moon is yogada - he owns lagna and aspects GL (ghati lagna - power and authority). Conjunction of lagna lord (Moon) and GL lord (Jupiter), with both aspecting GL, is a potent yoga for power. Moreover, Moon is the dispositor of Mercury, Venus and Saturn, who give Vesi yoga, Tapaswi yoga and a raja yoga (conjunction of AK and PiK in lagna or 5th gives a raja yoga. Here Venus is AK and Mercury is PiK and both occupy Cancer lagna). So Moon can trigger all those yogas, in addition to the yogas he directly takes part in. > > Clearly, Moon dasa should bring him power and trigger a lot of nice yogas. When he became US president in 2000-01, he MUST have been running Moon dasa. If we get another dasa, it means we are most probably not using the right dasa system! > > Based on the normal Vimsottari dasa, he was running Saturn-Rahu period at the time he became US president. One can make a case for anything in hindsight, but I do not think there is a STRONG case for Saturn-Rahu. If we use the standard Vimsottari dasa, we will be forced to accept vague reasoning at times. By using the right variation, we can always provide very crisp and clear logic. I made the same point in my classes at "Achyuta Jyotish Workshop" (go to http://www.VedicAstrologer.org/workshop to buy the CD containing 12 hr 25 min of classes and 55 min of prayers). To progress as astrologers, we should be honest and look for a better case when the case is weak. > > * * * > > Moon has only two planets in quadrants from him, but lagna has three. So, as per the teachings of Pt. Sanjay Rath (see his landmark book "Vimsottari & Udu Dasa" released recently), Lagna Vimsottari dasa applies here (it is the variation of Vimsottari dasa seeded from lagna instead of Moon). The calculations are given below: > > Vimsottari Dasa (started from lagna): > > Moo MD: 1996-10-24 (11:03:38) - 2006-10-25 (0:31:55) > > Antardasas in this MD: > > Moo: 1996-10-24 (11:03:38) - 1997-08-24 (11:30:36) > Mar: 1997-08-24 (11:30:36) - 1998-03-22 (4:10:38) > Rah: 1998-03-22 (4:10:38) - 1999-09-24 (20:47:55) > > Jup: 1999-09-24 (20:47:55) - 2001-01-21 (8:31:06) <<< > > Sat: 2001-01-21 (8:31:06) - 2002-08-24 (18:07:34) <<< > > Mer: 2002-08-24 (18:07:34) - 2004-01-22 (2:57:39) <<< > Ket: 2004-01-22 (2:57:39) - 2004-08-24 (6:27:27) > Ven: 2004-08-24 (6:27:27) - 2006-04-21 (17:08:47) > Sun: 2006-04-21 (17:08:47) - 2006-10-25 (0:31:55) > > In addition to the yogas in rasi chart, Moon is in the 5th in D-10 with lagna lord and 10th lord. Jupiter is the 5th lord in D-10. He is placed in GL and aspects lagna. All this very well explains the power he got in Moon-Jupiter dasa. > > Saturn is debilitated in AL and shows the image of an average person, an ignorant person (or "moron" as the Canadian PM's secretary supposedly called him). With AL being in Aries, it also shows an aggressive image. This Saturn is weak being in debilitation. He receives neecha bhanga from Venus who joins Moon. As a result, in Venus pratyantardasa of Moon-Saturn dasa (Aug 18-Nov 22, 2001), his image received a boost. > > Mercury antardasa in Moon dasa started in the middle of last year. Being the 6th lord in lagna in D-6, in the 12th from dasa lord Moon, Mercury will not allow his antardasa to be smooth. There will continue to be worries and threats from enemies. In D-10, Moon has an argala on the 7th house containing A3. A3 shows the physical manifestation of one's boldness and initiative. It is a tangible thing resulting from one's boldness. In the case of a leader, it can show war threats and war. Because of his argala on it, Moon can give such results in his dasa, which are likely to come in the antardasas of planets with graha drishti on it. Saturn, being the lord of A3 in Aq, brought a limited war in Afghanistan in his antardasa. Mercury aspects A3 in Aq from Leo. Thus his antardasa in Moon dasa will bring the acts of boldness. > > Venus PD runs during Dec 5, 2002-Feb 27, 2003. With Venus being the 3rd lord from Mercury and placed in a fiery sign, he engages in bold planning. Next PD of Sun (Feb 27- Mar 24, 2003) brings success, as Sun is the 1st lord in 5th from Mercury. Though his actions now may make him look passionate and aggressive, he will seem like a charming victor in March. > > * * * > > An examination of D-11 and its Mandooka dasa makes me concerned. In Bush's D-11, Cn rises and Aq is the 8th house. The 8th lord Saturn is in Aq, while the other 8th lord Rahu is in Sg. Bush's Mandooka dasa is shown below: > > Mandooka dasa of D-11 (an ayur dasa showing wars and destruction): > > Aq MD: 2001-07-06 (9:54:17) - 2009-07-06 (11:03:11) > > Antardasas in this MD: > > > Sg: 2001-07-06 (9:54:17) - 2002-03-05 (4:00:45) <<< > Cp: 2002-03-05 (4:00:45) - 2002-11-07 (0:10:20) > > Aq: 2002-11-07 (0:10:20) - 2003-07-06 (22:06:42) <<< > Pi: 2003-07-06 (22:06:42) - 2004-03-04 (16:10:50) > Ar: 2004-03-04 (16:10:50) - 2004-11-06 (12:29:53) > Ta: 2004-11-06 (12:29:53) - 2005-07-06 (10:33:48) > Ge: 2005-07-06 (10:33:48) - 2006-03-05 (4:28:25) > Cn: 2006-03-05 (4:28:25) - 2006-11-07 (0:50:25) > Le: 2006-11-07 (0:50:25) - 2007-07-06 (22:45:41) > Vi: 2007-07-06 (22:45:41) - 2008-03-04 (16:43:13) > Li: 2008-03-04 (16:43:13) - 2008-11-06 (13:10:23) > Sc: 2008-11-06 (13:10:23) - 2009-07-06 (11:03:11) > > Aq is the 8th house. Sg is Rudra Dwara using Rahu as the 8th lord. Mandooka dasa of rulers can be used for timing death and destruction faced by nations and success/failure in wars etc. Aq-Sg antardasa brought a big terrorist attack in New York City. > > Current Aq-Aq is also a dangerous period. Another big attack or even a danger to Bush himself cannot be ruled out until July 6, 2003. Especially, Cn pratyantardasa during March 25-April 14 and Vi pratyantardasa during May are ominous. > > * * * > > His 2002-03 annual Tithi Pravesha (TP) chart is cast for 18th June 2002, 1:57:12 (4:00:00 west of GMT), 72 W 55', 41 N 18'. > > He runs Mercury's Tithi Ashtottari (TA) dasa from 24th Dec 2002 to 21st Feb 2003. Mercury is badhakesha and functional malefic in rasi chart. He is the lord of AL and is ill-placed in the 12th from AL. He gives loss in popularity and setbacks. However, being in the 3rd house from lagna, he gives boldness. With Mercury, Saturn and Rahu being together, Mercury and Rahu exchange their beneficence. So Mercury works like Rahu and makes Bush very bold, manipulative, vicious and vengeful (qualities of Rahu). In D-10, Mercury is a functional malefic and occupies badhaka sthana. He shows opposition from intelligent people. > > Saturn dasa runs during 21st Feb-28th Mar, 2003. Saturn is well- placed in the 12th from AL in rasi chart and gives raja yoga. Saturn is the 6th lord in D-10 showing fights and wars. Saturn is with Mandi in D-10 and he will make the native commit sins against other people in his career. [Note: Mandi makes us commit sins towards other - i.e. give poison to others - and Gulika makes us receive punishment for our sins - i.e. receive poison from others.] > > Even though Saturn is a functional malefic in D-10, he is well- placed in the 6th house from AL and shows success. In all likelihood, the war will start soon after Feb 21 and will end quickly. Bush will be victorious and also the war will be justified after the fact, silencing the critics in the international community. > > * * * > > However, this may not be the end of the problem of terrorism or threats to world peace. > > As long as Bush runs Aq Mandooka dasa (and continues as President), there may not be any subsiding of threat. > > May Jupiter's light shine on us, > Narasimha Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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