Guest guest Posted February 5, 2003 Report Share Posted February 5, 2003 Dear Sarajit Poddar I am very grateful for Your reply. > 12th is obviously important, > however not for longevity of the marriage life. I have read UL in 12th from AL meanes, that man does not want to marry... Is Rahu or Ketu in 12th from UL not so important? With warm regards Nadezhda > > Best Regards > Sarajit > > > > - > <nadezhda_mi@m...> > <vedic astrology> > Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:46 AM > [vedic astrology] 12th from UL? > > > > Dear Respected Gurus and Learned members, > > Namaste > > I am the beginner at vedic astrology and so there are many questions. > > It is very hard to study jyotish alone and i shall be very grateful > > for Your help. > > I know that the 1th and 2th from Upapada Lagna is very important to > > wife(husband). Is vyaya bhava from UL important also? And is the > > malefics in vyaya bhava from UL bad for marriage? > > Sincerely Yours, > > Nadezhda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2003 Report Share Posted February 5, 2003 Dear Sarajit Poddar Thanks for Yours explanations. sincerely Yours, Nadezhda vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit@s...> wrote: > Jaya Jagannath > Dear Nadezhda, > > UL in 12th from AL means that you will have a tendency to reject your > spouse, whereas your spouse will be loving you. If Rahu is in 12th from UL, > the spouse will be spiritual and vice-versa. This is becasue, Rahu in 12th > from UL will make the spouse give up matarialism and bondage (signified by > Rahu). If from AL, it will do the same for the native. > > Best Wishes > Sarajit > > > - > <nadezhda_mi@m...> > <vedic astrology> > Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:14 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: 12th from UL? > > > > Dear Sarajit Poddar > > > > I am very grateful for Your reply. > > > > > 12th is obviously important, > > > however not for longevity of the marriage life. > > > > I have read UL in 12th from AL meanes, that man does not want to > > marry... Is Rahu or Ketu in 12th from UL not so important? > > With warm regards > > Nadezhda > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > <nadezhda_mi@m...> > > > <vedic astrology> > > > Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:46 AM > > > [vedic astrology] 12th from UL? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Gurus and Learned members, > > > > Namaste > > > > I am the beginner at vedic astrology and so there are many > > questions. > > > > It is very hard to study jyotish alone and i shall be very > > grateful > > > > for Your help. > > > > I know that the 1th and 2th from Upapada Lagna is very important > > to > > > > wife(husband). Is vyaya bhava from UL important also? And is the > > > > malefics in vyaya bhava from UL bad for marriage? > > > > Sincerely Yours, > > > > Nadezhda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic- astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 5, 2003 Report Share Posted February 5, 2003 Dear Sarajit, You wrote: "UL in 12th from AL means that you will have a tendency to reject your spouse, whereas your spouse will be loving you" I am a living example of the OPPOSITE (my first marriage). Kind regards Jay Weiss - "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit <vedic astrology> Friday, February 07, 2003 5:23 AM Re: [vedic astrology] Re: 12th from UL? > Jaya Jagannath > Dear Nadezhda, > > UL in 12th from AL means that you will have a tendency to reject your > spouse, whereas your spouse will be loving you. If Rahu is in 12th from UL, > the spouse will be spiritual and vice-versa. This is becasue, Rahu in 12th > from UL will make the spouse give up matarialism and bondage (signified by > Rahu). If from AL, it will do the same for the native. > > Best Wishes > Sarajit > > > - > <nadezhda_mi > <vedic astrology> > Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:14 PM > [vedic astrology] Re: 12th from UL? > > > > Dear Sarajit Poddar > > > > I am very grateful for Your reply. > > > > > 12th is obviously important, > > > however not for longevity of the marriage life. > > > > I have read UL in 12th from AL meanes, that man does not want to > > marry... Is Rahu or Ketu in 12th from UL not so important? > > With warm regards > > Nadezhda > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > <nadezhda_mi@m...> > > > <vedic astrology> > > > Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:46 AM > > > [vedic astrology] 12th from UL? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Gurus and Learned members, > > > > Namaste > > > > I am the beginner at vedic astrology and so there are many > > questions. > > > > It is very hard to study jyotish alone and i shall be very > > grateful > > > > for Your help. > > > > I know that the 1th and 2th from Upapada Lagna is very important > > to > > > > wife(husband). Is vyaya bhava from UL important also? And is the > > > > malefics in vyaya bhava from UL bad for marriage? > > > > Sincerely Yours, > > > > Nadezhda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Jaya Jagannath Dear Nadezhda, The 2nd is important as 2nd shows the longivity. If nodes are afflicting the 2nd / 2nd lord from UL or the 2nd lord is debilitated, then there is trouble to the marriage and can lead to divorce. 12th is obviously important, however not for longevity of the marriage life. Best Regards Sarajit - <nadezhda_mi <vedic astrology> Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:46 AM [vedic astrology] 12th from UL? > Dear Respected Gurus and Learned members, > Namaste > I am the beginner at vedic astrology and so there are many questions. > It is very hard to study jyotish alone and i shall be very grateful > for Your help. > I know that the 1th and 2th from Upapada Lagna is very important to > wife(husband). Is vyaya bhava from UL important also? And is the > malefics in vyaya bhava from UL bad for marriage? > Sincerely Yours, > Nadezhda > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 6, 2003 Report Share Posted February 6, 2003 Jaya Jagannath Dear Nadezhda, UL in 12th from AL means that you will have a tendency to reject your spouse, whereas your spouse will be loving you. If Rahu is in 12th from UL, the spouse will be spiritual and vice-versa. This is becasue, Rahu in 12th from UL will make the spouse give up matarialism and bondage (signified by Rahu). If from AL, it will do the same for the native. Best Wishes Sarajit - <nadezhda_mi <vedic astrology> Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:14 PM [vedic astrology] Re: 12th from UL? > Dear Sarajit Poddar > > I am very grateful for Your reply. > > > 12th is obviously important, > > however not for longevity of the marriage life. > > I have read UL in 12th from AL meanes, that man does not want to > marry... Is Rahu or Ketu in 12th from UL not so important? > With warm regards > Nadezhda > > > > > > Best Regards > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > - > > <nadezhda_mi@m...> > > <vedic astrology> > > Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:46 AM > > [vedic astrology] 12th from UL? > > > > > > > Dear Respected Gurus and Learned members, > > > Namaste > > > I am the beginner at vedic astrology and so there are many > questions. > > > It is very hard to study jyotish alone and i shall be very > grateful > > > for Your help. > > > I know that the 1th and 2th from Upapada Lagna is very important > to > > > wife(husband). Is vyaya bhava from UL important also? And is the > > > malefics in vyaya bhava from UL bad for marriage? > > > Sincerely Yours, > > > Nadezhda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 Dear Sarajit & all jyotisha, Regarding the the affiliction to the 2nd from Upapada, in my chart i had UL in Aquarius and the 2nd from it is the sign pisces is posited by Ketu.Pisces is also my Arudha Lagna and my Mantra Pada.Guru is exalted and aspects ketu.Does this somehow will cause problem in my marriage or maybe I would never get married at all......My chart is attached! Can anyone hint me on that? Thanks & Regards Mofie Augustine ---- Jaya JagannathDear Nadezhda,The 2nd is important as 2nd shows the longivity. If nodes are afflicting the2nd / 2nd lord from UL or the 2nd lord is debilitated, then there is troubleto the marriage and can lead to divorce. 12th is obviously important,however not for longevity of the marriage life.Best RegardsSarajit __ IncrediMail - Email has finally evolved - Click Here Attachment: (image/gif) IMSTP.gif [not stored] Attachment: (Image/jpeg) BackGrnd28.jpg [not stored] Attachment: (application/pdf) Vedic Chart.pdf [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 15, 2003 Report Share Posted February 15, 2003 Jaya Jagannath Dear Jay Weiss, This is generally found to be true in most of the horoscopes. There are various ways this can interpreted. Becuase the AL is involved this mostly means that the native is compelled by the situation to give lesser time to the spouse. However in many cases, this amounts to clashes in the marriage and in many cases this doesnot happen. This is however can better ascertained from the Navamsa. In the navamsa the Lagna lord is placed in the 7th and the 7th lord is placed in the trine to the Navamsa Lagna, this shows that you comply to all the demands of your wife (lagnamsa lord in the house of wife) and she never complains about your not giving enough time (Jup in trine- not complaining). About the change of Location: This will happen with Sat- Merc- Sat. This is possible with Rahu pratyantar too, however Sat is more equipped being the lord of 7th in the 12th, placed with 9th lord. However, Rahu doesnot lord any houses of travel and is only placed in one. The 12th house movement is the longest duration movement and hence shall be more effective in showing relocation of house. Their placement in a movable sign, shows that you might be relocating on a distant state. I guess there is no problem in showing why the Dasa and Pratyantar lord showing the travel. Sat being the lord of the 12th from the AK Merc., and placed in the 4th from Sun shows that you have started feeling like changing your home with the starting of the Sat dasa in 1998 July, along with some other desires.... Now Merc is 7th lord from AL, placed in 4th showing domestic harmony as the result of the movement. From the dasa lord, Merc is placed in the 9th, house of travel. Thus it shows... Best Regards Sarajit ---- Original Message ----- "Jay Weiss" <jayhw <vedic astrology> Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:21 PM Re: [vedic astrology] 12th from UL? > Dear Sarajit, > > You wrote: "UL in 12th from AL means that you will have a tendency to reject > your > spouse, whereas your spouse will be loving you" > > I am a living example of the OPPOSITE (my first marriage). > > Kind regards > Jay Weiss > > > > - > "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit > <vedic astrology> > Friday, February 07, 2003 5:23 AM > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: 12th from UL? > > > > Jaya Jagannath > > Dear Nadezhda, > > > > UL in 12th from AL means that you will have a tendency to reject your > > spouse, whereas your spouse will be loving you. If Rahu is in 12th from > UL, > > the spouse will be spiritual and vice-versa. This is becasue, Rahu in 12th > > from UL will make the spouse give up matarialism and bondage (signified by > > Rahu). If from AL, it will do the same for the native. > > > > Best Wishes > > Sarajit > > > > > > - > > <nadezhda_mi > > <vedic astrology> > > Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:14 PM > > [vedic astrology] Re: 12th from UL? > > > > > > > Dear Sarajit Poddar > > > > > > I am very grateful for Your reply. > > > > > > > 12th is obviously important, > > > > however not for longevity of the marriage life. > > > > > > I have read UL in 12th from AL meanes, that man does not want to > > > marry... Is Rahu or Ketu in 12th from UL not so important? > > > With warm regards > > > Nadezhda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > <nadezhda_mi@m...> > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:46 AM > > > > [vedic astrology] 12th from UL? > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Gurus and Learned members, > > > > > Namaste > > > > > I am the beginner at vedic astrology and so there are many > > > questions. > > > > > It is very hard to study jyotish alone and i shall be very > > > grateful > > > > > for Your help. > > > > > I know that the 1th and 2th from Upapada Lagna is very important > > > to > > > > > wife(husband). Is vyaya bhava from UL important also? And is the > > > > > malefics in vyaya bhava from UL bad for marriage? > > > > > Sincerely Yours, > > > > > Nadezhda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted February 16, 2003 Report Share Posted February 16, 2003 Dear Sarajit, Namaste Thanks for replying. What you wrote is likely to be correct in most cases of UL been 12th from AL, however in my case (first wife) it was the other way around as she rejected me and many confrontations as I did not comply with all her 'demands', mostly due to financial restrain at the time, ending in a divorce. With regard to the issue of moving, using Tithi Pravesh, I can see that the first real opportunity to move will be there after April 2004, probably in Mars Ashtottari dasa period (Nov/Dec-2004) as there is a clear connection between the 7/12/4/9th houses. That will correspond with Sat/Ket/Rah Vimshottari (Ketu is in the 3rd which is 12th to the 4th, Mars L4&9 (YK) in 12th), so maybe this will turn out to be the right time - let's wait and see .... Thanks again Kind regards Jay Weiss - "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit <vedic astrology> Sunday, February 16, 2003 6:37 AM Re: [vedic astrology] 12th from UL? > Jaya Jagannath > Dear Jay Weiss, > > This is generally found to be true in most of the horoscopes. There are > various ways this can interpreted. Becuase the AL is involved this mostly > means that the native is compelled by the situation to give lesser time to > the spouse. However in many cases, this amounts to clashes in the marriage > and in many cases this doesnot happen. This is however can better > ascertained from the Navamsa. In the navamsa the Lagna lord is placed in the > 7th and the 7th lord is placed in the trine to the Navamsa Lagna, this shows > that you comply to all the demands of your wife (lagnamsa lord in the house > of wife) and she never complains about your not giving enough time (Jup in > trine- not complaining). > > About the change of Location: > This will happen with Sat- Merc- Sat. This is possible with Rahu pratyantar > too, however Sat is more equipped being the lord of 7th in the 12th, placed > with 9th lord. However, Rahu doesnot lord any houses of travel and is only > placed in one. The 12th house movement is the longest duration movement and > hence shall be more effective in showing relocation of house. Their > placement in a movable sign, shows that you might be relocating on a distant > state. > > I guess there is no problem in showing why the Dasa and Pratyantar lord > showing the travel. Sat being the lord of the 12th from the AK Merc., and > placed in the 4th from Sun shows that you have started feeling like changing > your home with the starting of the Sat dasa in 1998 July, along with some > other desires.... Now Merc is 7th lord from AL, placed in 4th showing > domestic harmony as the result of the movement. From the dasa lord, Merc is > placed in the 9th, house of travel. Thus it shows... > > Best Regards > Sarajit > > ---- Original Message ----- > "Jay Weiss" <jayhw > <vedic astrology> > Thursday, February 06, 2003 3:21 PM > Re: [vedic astrology] 12th from UL? > > > > Dear Sarajit, > > > > You wrote: "UL in 12th from AL means that you will have a tendency to > reject > > your > > spouse, whereas your spouse will be loving you" > > > > I am a living example of the OPPOSITE (my first marriage). > > > > Kind regards > > Jay Weiss > > > > > > > > - > > "Sarajit Poddar" <sarajit > > <vedic astrology> > > Friday, February 07, 2003 5:23 AM > > Re: [vedic astrology] Re: 12th from UL? > > > > > > > Jaya Jagannath > > > Dear Nadezhda, > > > > > > UL in 12th from AL means that you will have a tendency to reject your > > > spouse, whereas your spouse will be loving you. If Rahu is in 12th from > > UL, > > > the spouse will be spiritual and vice-versa. This is becasue, Rahu in > 12th > > > from UL will make the spouse give up matarialism and bondage (signified > by > > > Rahu). If from AL, it will do the same for the native. > > > > > > Best Wishes > > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > - > > > <nadezhda_mi > > > <vedic astrology> > > > Thursday, February 06, 2003 12:14 PM > > > [vedic astrology] Re: 12th from UL? > > > > > > > > > > Dear Sarajit Poddar > > > > > > > > I am very grateful for Your reply. > > > > > > > > > 12th is obviously important, > > > > > however not for longevity of the marriage life. > > > > > > > > I have read UL in 12th from AL meanes, that man does not want to > > > > marry... Is Rahu or Ketu in 12th from UL not so important? > > > > With warm regards > > > > Nadezhda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Best Regards > > > > > Sarajit > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > - > > > > > <nadezhda_mi@m...> > > > > > <vedic astrology> > > > > > Thursday, February 06, 2003 11:46 AM > > > > > [vedic astrology] 12th from UL? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Respected Gurus and Learned members, > > > > > > Namaste > > > > > > I am the beginner at vedic astrology and so there are many > > > > questions. > > > > > > It is very hard to study jyotish alone and i shall be very > > > > grateful > > > > > > for Your help. > > > > > > I know that the 1th and 2th from Upapada Lagna is very important > > > > to > > > > > > wife(husband). Is vyaya bhava from UL important also? And is the > > > > > > malefics in vyaya bhava from UL bad for marriage? > > > > > > Sincerely Yours, > > > > > > Nadezhda > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Group info: vedic astrology/info.html > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > To UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology- > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > > > > > Your use of is subject to > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... > > > > Your use of is subject to > > Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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