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Hare Rama Krishna,

Namaste Visti,

 

May I ask further on the same subject, a malefic like

shani when retrograde and exalted in Libra should be

considered debilitated.

 

But what happens if the shani is also in parivarthan

with Venus. A 9/5 parivarthan.

Does it by any chance again overcome this

debilitation?

 

In navamsa shani and venus are together in Taurus.

 

Thanks,

humbly,

Rema

 

--- Visti Larsen <vishnu wrote:

> Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah

>

>

--

>

> Dear Gili and Chandrashekhar,

> The results become easier to understand when you

> keep in mind the following:

>

> A Retrograde planet will give results only to take

> the results away again before the results have been

> fulfilled completely.

>

> Hence an exalted planet will wanto give the highest

> results of placement, however if it is also

> retrogade, the results will never manifest fully

> like a bee who's hesitant to taste the nectar of a

> flower.

>

> Hence the results become akin to debilitation. If

> the planet is a malefic, then a high level of

> spirituality/renunciation can be expected, espcially

> incase of Shani.

>

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

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> Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:05 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology](for Chandrashekhar)

> retrograde planet in exaltation sign

>

>

> Dear Chandreshekhar,

> I agree with you ... but it is hard for a novice

> to determine what is true

> when reading conflicting arguments by respected

> authors.

> Also my heart feels that Jupiter doesn't bring

> anything unpleasant unless it

> is good for spiritual development.

> (That last sentence confirms Prof. Jaya Shekhar's

> comment to me, on looking

> at my chart at the BAVA conference, that I will

> never be a good vedic

> astrologer because I think with my heart :) )

> Love,

> Gili

>

>

>

> you can't transcend what you haven't experienced

>

>

>

>

>

> >"Chandrashekhar" <boxdel

> >

> >Dear Gili,

> >I stll have not come accross any such reference

> in any ancient text.

> >Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that Retrograde

> planet gives good results

> >even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha , if my

> memory serves me right.

> >I cannot understand how a planet looses his

> Chesta bal by going to

> >exaltation Rasi.

> >Chandrashekhar.

>

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Rema,

Swee has a similar situation as she has allready mentioned, only her Shani is not retrogade.

 

Yes it can overcome its debilitation, but thats not necessarily good. What is

your lagna? Venus Dasa will give the results of Shani.

 

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[vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation sign

Hare Rama Krishna, Namaste Visti,May I ask further on the same subject, a

malefic likeshani when retrograde and exalted in Libra should beconsidered

debilitated. But what happens if the shani is also in parivarthanwith Venus. A

9/5 parivarthan.Does it by any chance again overcome thisdebilitation?In

navamsa shani and venus are together in Taurus.Thanks, humbly, Rema--- Visti

Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:> Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah>

>-->

> Dear Gili and Chandrashekhar,> The results become easier to understand when

you> keep in mind the following:> > A Retrograde planet will give results only

to take> the results away again before the results have been> fulfilled

completely.> > Hence an exalted planet will wanto give the highest> results of

placement, however if it is also> retrogade, the results will never manifest

fully> like a bee who's hesitant to taste the nectar of a> flower.> > Hence the

results become akin to debilitation. If> the planet is a malefic, then a high

level of> spirituality/renunciation can be expected, espcially> incase of

Shani.> > Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

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----- > Gili Alvey > vedic astrology > Sent:

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:05 PM> Re: [vedic astrology](for

Chandrashekhar)> retrograde planet in exaltation sign> > > Dear

Chandreshekhar,> I agree with you ... but it is hard for a novice> to

determine what is true > when reading conflicting arguments by respected>

authors.> Also my heart feels that Jupiter doesn't bring> anything unpleasant

unless it > is good for spiritual development.> (That last sentence confirms

Prof. Jaya Shekhar's> comment to me, on looking > at my chart at the BAVA

conference, that I will> never be a good vedic > astrologer because I think

with my heart :) )> Love,> Gili> > > > you can't transcend what you

haven't experienced> > > > > > >"Chandrashekhar" <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk>>

>> >Dear Gili,> >I stll have not come accross any such reference> in any

ancient text. > >Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that Retrograde> planet

gives good results > >even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha , if my>

memory serves me right.> >I cannot understand how a planet looses his> Chesta

bal by going to > >exaltation Rasi.> >Chandrashekhar.> > >

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Dear Visti,

 

Attached is a chart which has Neech Shani in both Rasi

and Navamsa. Shani is Lagna lord and is retro and

there is no Neech Bhanga. How should we read this?

 

Thanks and Regards,

Shiv

 

 

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"

<vishnu@l...> wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

>

--

>

> Dear Rema,

> Swee has a similar situation as she has allready

mentioned, only her Shani is not retrogade.

>

> Yes it can overcome its debilitation, but thats not

necessarily good. What is your lagna? Venus Dasa will

give the results of Shani.

>

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> -

> Rema Menon

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:00 PM

> [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in

exaltation sign

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna,

> Namaste Visti,

>

> May I ask further on the same subject, a malefic

like

> shani when retrograde and exalted in Libra should

be

> considered debilitated.

>

> But what happens if the shani is also in

parivarthan

> with Venus. A 9/5 parivarthan.

> Does it by any chance again overcome this

> debilitation?

>

> In navamsa shani and venus are together in Taurus.

>

> Thanks,

> humbly,

> Rema

>

> --- Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote:

> > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah

> >

> >

>

--

> >

> > Dear Gili and Chandrashekhar,

> > The results become easier to understand when you

> > keep in mind the following:

> >

> > A Retrograde planet will give results only to

take

> > the results away again before the results have

been

> > fulfilled completely.

> >

> > Hence an exalted planet will wanto give the

highest

> > results of placement, however if it is also

> > retrogade, the results will never manifest fully

> > like a bee who's hesitant to taste the nectar of

a

> > flower.

> >

> > Hence the results become akin to debilitation.

If

> > the planet is a malefic, then a high level of

> > spirituality/renunciation can be expected,

espcially

> > incase of Shani.

> >

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > -

> > Gili Alvey

> > vedic astrology

> > Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:05 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology](for

Chandrashekhar)

> > retrograde planet in exaltation sign

> >

> >

> > Dear Chandreshekhar,

> > I agree with you ... but it is hard for a

novice

> > to determine what is true

> > when reading conflicting arguments by

respected

> > authors.

> > Also my heart feels that Jupiter doesn't bring

> > anything unpleasant unless it

> > is good for spiritual development.

> > (That last sentence confirms Prof. Jaya

Shekhar's

> > comment to me, on looking

> > at my chart at the BAVA conference, that I

will

> > never be a good vedic

> > astrologer because I think with my heart :) )

> > Love,

> > Gili

> >

> >

> >

> > you can't transcend what you haven't

experienced

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >"Chandrashekhar" <boxdel>

> > >

> > >Dear Gili,

> > >I stll have not come accross any such

reference

> > in any ancient text.

> > >Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that

Retrograde

> > planet gives good results

> > >even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha ,

if my

> > memory serves me right.

> > >I cannot understand how a planet looses his

> > Chesta bal by going to

> > >exaltation Rasi.

> > >Chandrashekhar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

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Hare Rama Krishna,

Namaste Visti,

 

My lagna is Gemini.

I will not have a venus dasa, Right now am in my

Jupiter, next is shani.

If sani will not get debilitated, how else does the

bad effect come?

 

Thanks,

Rema

 

 

--- Visti Larsen <vishnu wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

>

--

>

> Dear Rema,

> Swee has a similar situation as she has allready

> mentioned, only her Shani is not retrogade.

>

> Yes it can overcome its debilitation, but thats not

> necessarily good. What is your lagna? Venus Dasa

> will give the results of Shani.

>

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

> Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> -

> Rema Menon

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:00 PM

> [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in

> exaltation sign

>

>

> Hare Rama Krishna,

> Namaste Visti,

>

> May I ask further on the same subject, a malefic

> like

> shani when retrograde and exalted in Libra should

> be

> considered debilitated.

>

> But what happens if the shani is also in

> parivarthan

> with Venus. A 9/5 parivarthan.

> Does it by any chance again overcome this

> debilitation?

>

> In navamsa shani and venus are together in Taurus.

>

> Thanks,

> humbly,

> Rema

>

> --- Visti Larsen <vishnu wrote:

> > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah

> >

> >

>

>

--

> >

> > Dear Gili and Chandrashekhar,

> > The results become easier to understand when you

> > keep in mind the following:

> >

> > A Retrograde planet will give results only to

> take

> > the results away again before the results have

> been

> > fulfilled completely.

> >

> > Hence an exalted planet will wanto give the

> highest

> > results of placement, however if it is also

> > retrogade, the results will never manifest fully

> > like a bee who's hesitant to taste the nectar of

> a

> > flower.

> >

> > Hence the results become akin to debilitation.

> If

> > the planet is a malefic, then a high level of

> > spirituality/renunciation can be expected,

> espcially

> > incase of Shani.

> >

> > Best wishes

> > Visti

> > ---

> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org

> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

> > iTRANS 99 Font:

> http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

> > -

> > Gili Alvey

> > vedic astrology

> > Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:05 PM

> > Re: [vedic astrology](for

> Chandrashekhar)

> > retrograde planet in exaltation sign

> >

> >

> > Dear Chandreshekhar,

> > I agree with you ... but it is hard for a

> novice

> > to determine what is true

> > when reading conflicting arguments by

> respected

> > authors.

> > Also my heart feels that Jupiter doesn't bring

> > anything unpleasant unless it

> > is good for spiritual development.

> > (That last sentence confirms Prof. Jaya

> Shekhar's

> > comment to me, on looking

> > at my chart at the BAVA conference, that I

> will

> > never be a good vedic

> > astrologer because I think with my heart :) )

> > Love,

> > Gili

> >

> >

> >

> > you can't transcend what you haven't

> experienced

> >

> >

> >

> >

> >

> > >"Chandrashekhar" <boxdel

> > >

> > >Dear Gili,

> > >I stll have not come accross any such

> reference

> > in any ancient text.

> > >Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that

> Retrograde

> > planet gives good results

> > >even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha ,

> if my

> > memory serves me right.

> > >I cannot understand how a planet looses his

> > Chesta bal by going to

> > >exaltation Rasi.

> > >Chandrashekhar.

> >

> >

> >

> >

>

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Rema,

Theres a Parivartana Yoga, it means that Shukra is going to play the role of

Shani and Shani is going to play the role of Shukra. During Shani Dasa you may

expect some income from your father, or paternal relatives..

 

As for Venus.. if not a maha dasa, then surely an antara.

 

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Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:51 PM

Re: [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation sign

Hare Rama Krishna,Namaste Visti, My lagna is Gemini. I will not have a venus

dasa, Right now am in myJupiter, next is shani.If sani will not get

debilitated, how else does thebad effect come?Thanks, Rema--- Visti Larsen

<vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:> Hare Rama Krsna>

>-->

> Dear Rema,> Swee has a similar situation as she has allready> mentioned, only

her Shani is not retrogade.> > Yes it can overcome its debilitation, but thats

not> necessarily good. What is your lagna? Venus Dasa> will give the results of

Shani.> > Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message

----- > Rema Menon > vedic astrology > Sent:

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:00 PM> [vedic astrology] retrograde

planet in> exaltation sign> > > Hare Rama Krishna, > Namaste Visti,> >

May I ask further on the same subject, a malefic> like> shani when retrograde

and exalted in Libra should> be> considered debilitated. > > But what

happens if the shani is also in> parivarthan> with Venus. A 9/5 parivarthan.>

Does it by any chance again overcome this> debilitation?> > In navamsa

shani and venus are together in Taurus.> > Thanks, > humbly, > Rema> >

--- Visti Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:> > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah> > >

>>

>-->

> > > Dear Gili and Chandrashekhar,> > The results become easier to

understand when you> > keep in mind the following:> > > > A Retrograde

planet will give results only to> take> > the results away again before the

results have> been> > fulfilled completely.> > > > Hence an exalted

planet will wanto give the> highest> > results of placement, however if it is

also> > retrogade, the results will never manifest fully> > like a bee who's

hesitant to taste the nectar of> a> > flower.> > > > Hence the results

become akin to debilitation.> If> > the planet is a malefic, then a high

level of> > spirituality/renunciation can be expected,> espcially> > incase

of Shani.> > > > Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

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Message ----- > > Gili Alvey > > To:

vedic astrology > > Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:05

PM> > Re: [vedic astrology](for> Chandrashekhar)> > retrograde

planet in exaltation sign> > > > > > Dear Chandreshekhar,> > I

agree with you ... but it is hard for a> novice> > to determine what is true

> > when reading conflicting arguments by> respected> > authors.> >

Also my heart feels that Jupiter doesn't bring> > anything unpleasant unless

it > > is good for spiritual development.> > (That last sentence

confirms Prof. Jaya> Shekhar's> > comment to me, on looking > > at my

chart at the BAVA conference, that I> will> > never be a good vedic > >

astrologer because I think with my heart :) )> > Love,> > Gili> > >

> > > > > you can't transcend what you haven't> experienced> > > > >

> > > > > > > >"Chandrashekhar" <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> > >> >

>Dear Gili,> > >I stll have not come accross any such> reference> > in

any ancient text. > > >Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that> Retrograde>

> planet gives good results > > >even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha

,> if my> > memory serves me right.> > >I cannot understand how a planet

looses his> > Chesta bal by going to > > >exaltation Rasi.> >

>Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > > >>

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Hare Rama Krsna

Rajyoga! But the native should watch their health.

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

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Wednesday, February 05, 2003 8:37 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: retrograde planet in exaltation sign

|| Om Namah Shivaye ||Dear Visti,Attached is a chart which has Neech Shani in

both Rasiand Navamsa. Shani is Lagna lord and is retro andthere is no Neech

Bhanga. How should we read this?Thanks and Regards,Shiv--- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen"<vishnu@l...> wrote:> Hare Rama

Krsna>

>-->

> Dear Rema,> Swee has a similar situation as she has allreadymentioned, only

her Shani is not retrogade.> > Yes it can overcome its debilitation, but thats

notnecessarily good. What is your lagna? Venus Dasa willgive the results of

Shani.> > Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message

----- > Rema Menon > vedic astrology > Sent:

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:00 PM> [vedic astrology] retrograde

planet inexaltation sign> > > Hare Rama Krishna, > Namaste Visti,> > May

I ask further on the same subject, a maleficlike> shani when retrograde and

exalted in Libra shouldbe> considered debilitated. > > But what happens if

the shani is also inparivarthan> with Venus. A 9/5 parivarthan.> Does it by

any chance again overcome this> debilitation?> > In navamsa shani and venus

are together in Taurus.> > Thanks, > humbly, > Rema> > --- Visti Larsen

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understand when you> > keep in mind the following:> > > > A Retrograde

planet will give results only totake> > the results away again before the

results havebeen> > fulfilled completely.> > > > Hence an exalted planet

will wanto give thehighest> > results of placement, however if it is also>

> retrogade, the results will never manifest fully> > like a bee who's

hesitant to taste the nectar ofa> > flower.> > > > Hence the results

become akin to debilitation.If> > the planet is a malefic, then a high level

of> > spirituality/renunciation can be expected,espcially> > incase of

Shani.> > > > Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center:

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PM> > Re: [vedic astrology](forChandrashekhar)> > retrograde

planet in exaltation sign> > > > > > Dear Chandreshekhar,> > I

agree with you ... but it is hard for anovice> > to determine what is true >

> when reading conflicting arguments byrespected> > authors.> > Also my

heart feels that Jupiter doesn't bring> > anything unpleasant unless it > >

is good for spiritual development.> > (That last sentence confirms Prof.

JayaShekhar's> > comment to me, on looking > > at my chart at the BAVA

conference, that Iwill> > never be a good vedic > > astrologer because I

think with my heart :) )> > Love,> > Gili> > > > > > > > you

can't transcend what you haven'texperienced> > > > > > > > > > > >

>"Chandrashekhar" <boxdel>> > >> > >Dear Gili,> > >I

stll have not come accross any suchreference> > in any ancient text. > >

>Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika thatRetrograde> > planet gives good results

> > >even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha ,if my> > memory serves me

right.> > >I cannot understand how a planet looses his> > Chesta bal by

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Hare Rama Krishna,

Namaste Visti,

 

 

 

During Shani Dasa you

> may expect some income from your father, or paternal

> relatives..

>

Why would shani acting as Venus bring wealth from

paternal side? venus is 12th and 5th lords, wont the

children or foreign lands bring wealth, if I am wrong

please explain.

 

> As for Venus.. if not a maha dasa, then surely an

> antara.

 

So during venus antardasa should give shani's effect

...Is it as an exalted 9th or 8th lord.

 

So what is the down side of this retrograde planet

being in exaltion in my case?

 

thanks,

humbly,

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Dearest Gurujis and List members,

 

Hare Krsna.

 

Thanking you for the very interesting topic of retrograde with exaltation. It

was interesting to hear that exaltation + retrograde in kendra will create raj

yoga!

 

Here is a chart that I thought would be very strong,especially for spiritual

topics and so on,with several planets in kendras and in exaltation + Saturn in

Lagna exalted +retrograde. I thought that this person would have a very

progressive and celebrated life but it seems that this person has had a very

trying and difficult time,added to my feeling that he may have an anger and

emotional "issue,difficulty with authority figures,association that is

questionable and general malaise.

I was thinking that most probably things would improve now that he is

older???(Saturn?) He has just started Jupiter Maha das and Jupiter is exalted

in the 10th...so things may improve for him,now,especially this year?....any

comments?....

d.o.b April 5,1955...17:55 Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

Thank you all in advance. It is an honour to be able to recieve and be on this

list!...although somewhat frustrating as a neopyte!...lol

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Hi:

will it be possible for you to post your chart. that way one could get

better picture

with regards

rangarajan

 

 

At 03:51 PM 2/5/03 -0800, you wrote:

>Hare Rama Krishna,

>Namaste Visti,

>

>

>

> During Shani Dasa you

>> may expect some income from your father, or paternal

>> relatives..

>>

>Why would shani acting as Venus bring wealth from

>paternal side? venus is 12th and 5th lords, wont the

>children or foreign lands bring wealth, if I am wrong

>please explain.

>

>> As for Venus.. if not a maha dasa, then surely an

>> antara.

>

>So during venus antardasa should give shani's effect

>..Is it as an exalted 9th or 8th lord.

>

>So what is the down side of this retrograde planet

>being in exaltion in my case?

>

>thanks,

>humbly,

>Rema

>

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Rema,

Sorry, i treated Virgo as lagna instead.. bad habbit.

 

9th house will dominate as its a moolatrikona sign.

The Sambandha between 5th and 9th lords is very prosperous, however the

retrograde of Shani will only confer temporary effects to say the least.

Sat-Venus Dasa will answer your doubts.

 

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Re: [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation sign

Hare Rama Krishna,Namaste Visti, During Shani Dasa you> may expect some income

from your father, or paternal> relatives.. >Why would shani acting as Venus

bring wealth frompaternal side? venus is 12th and 5th lords, wont thechildren

or foreign lands bring wealth, if I am wrongplease explain. > As for Venus.. if

not a maha dasa, then surely an> antara.So during venus antardasa should give

shani's effect...Is it as an exalted 9th or 8th lord.So what is the down side

of this retrograde planetbeing in exaltion in my case?thanks, humbly,

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Dear Mohini,

You misundestood. deb+retro in kendra gives rajyoga.

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Re: [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation sign

Dearest Gurujis and List members,

 

Hare Krsna.

 

Thanking you for the very interesting topic of retrograde with exaltation. It

was interesting to hear that exaltation + retrograde in kendra will create raj

yoga!

 

Here is a chart that I thought would be very strong,especially for spiritual

topics and so on,with several planets in kendras and in exaltation + Saturn in

Lagna exalted +retrograde. I thought that this person would have a very

progressive and celebrated life but it seems that this person has had a very

trying and difficult time,added to my feeling that he may have an anger and

emotional "issue,difficulty with authority figures,association that is

questionable and general malaise.

I was thinking that most probably things would improve now that he is

older???(Saturn?) He has just started Jupiter Maha das and Jupiter is exalted

in the 10th...so things may improve for him,now,especially this year?....any

comments?....

d.o.b April 5,1955...17:55 Winnipeg Manitoba Canada

Thank you all in advance. It is an honour to be able to recieve and be on this

list!...although somewhat frustrating as a neopyte!...lol

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good. What is your lagna? Venus Dasa will give the results of Shani.

 

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Namaste Visti,

May I ask further on the same subject, a malefic like

shani when retrograde and exalted in Libra should be

considered debilitated.

But what happens if the shani is also in parivarthan

with Venus. A 9/5 parivarthan.

Does it by any chance again overcome this

debilitation?

In navamsa shani and venus are together in Taurus.

Thanks,

humbly,

Rema

--- Visti Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:

> Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah

>

>

--

>

> Dear Gili and Chandrashekhar,

> The results become easier to understand when you

> keep in mind the following:

>

> A Retrograde planet will give results only to take

> the results away again before the results have been

> fulfilled completely.

>

> Hence an exalted planet will wanto give the highest

> results of placement, however if it is also

> retrogade, the results will never manifest fully

> like a bee who's hesitant to taste the nectar of a

> flower.

>

> Hence the results become akin to debilitation. If

> the planet is a malefic, then a high level of

> spirituality/renunciation can be expected, espcially

> incase of Shani.

>

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

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> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org

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> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:05 PM

> Re: [vedic astrology](for Chandrashekhar)

> retrograde planet in exaltation sign

>

>

> Dear Chandreshekhar,

> I agree with you ... but it is hard for a novice

> to determine what is true

> when reading conflicting arguments by respected

> authors.

> Also my heart feels that Jupiter doesn't bring

> anything unpleasant unless it

> is good for spiritual development.

> (That last sentence confirms Prof. Jaya Shekhar's

> comment to me, on looking

> at my chart at the BAVA conference, that I will

> never be a good vedic

> astrologer because I think with my heart :) )

> Love,

> Gili

>

>

>

> you can't transcend what you haven't experienced

>

>

>

>

>

> >"Chandrashekhar"

<boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

> >

> >Dear Gili,

> >I stll have not come accross any such reference

> in any ancient text.

> >Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that Retrograde

> planet gives good results

> >even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha , if my

> memory serves me right.

> >I cannot understand how a planet looses his

> Chesta bal by going to

> >exaltation Rasi.

> >Chandrashekhar.

>

>

>

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Dear Visti,

What if grahas are retro as well as in parivartana? Might want to see the

attached chart of a native.

Regards,

Nisha

Visti Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Rema,

Theres a Parivartana Yoga, it means that Shukra is going to play the role of

Shani and Shani is going to play the role of Shukra. During Shani Dasa you may

expect some income from your father, or paternal relatives..

 

As for Venus.. if not a maha dasa, then surely an antara.

 

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

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Re: [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation sign

Hare Rama Krishna,Namaste Visti, My lagna is Gemini. I will not have a venus

dasa, Right now am in myJupiter, next is shani.If sani will not get

debilitated, how else does thebad effect come?Thanks, Rema--- Visti Larsen

<vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:> Hare Rama Krsna>

>-->

> Dear Rema,> Swee has a similar situation as she has allready> mentioned, only

her Shani is not retrogade.> > Yes it can overcome its debilitation, but thats

not> necessarily good. What is your lagna? Venus Dasa> will give the results of

Shani.> > Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

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----- > Rema Menon > vedic astrology > Sent:

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:00 PM> [vedic astrology] retrograde

planet in> exaltation sign> > > Hare Rama Krishna, > Namaste Visti,> >

May I ask further on the same subject, a malefic> like> shani when retrograde

and exalted in Libra should> be> considered debilitated. > > But what

happens if the shani is also in> parivarthan> with Venus. A 9/5 parivarthan.>

Does it by any chance again overcome this> debilitation?> > In navamsa

shani and venus are together in Taurus.> > Thanks, > humbly, > Rema> >

--- Visti Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:> > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah> > >

>>

>-->

> > > Dear Gili and Chandrashekhar,> > The results become easier to

understand when you> > keep in mind the following:> > > > A Retrograde

planet will give results only to> take> > the results away again before the

results have> been> > fulfilled completely.> > > > Hence an exalted

planet will wanto give the> highest> > results of placement, however if it is

also> > retrogade, the results will never manifest fully> > like a bee who's

hesitant to taste the nectar of> a> > flower.> > > > Hence the results

become akin to debilitation.> If> > the planet is a malefic, then a high

level of> > spirituality/renunciation can be expected,> espcially> > incase

of Shani.> > > > Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

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vedic astrology > > Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:05

PM> > Re: [vedic astrology](for> Chandrashekhar)> > retrograde

planet in exaltation sign> > > > > > Dear Chandreshekhar,> > I

agree with you ... but it is hard for a> novice> > to determine what is true

> > when reading conflicting arguments by> respected> > authors.> >

Also my heart feels that Jupiter doesn't bring> > anything unpleasant unless

it > > is good for spiritual development.> > (That last sentence

confirms Prof. Jaya> Shekhar's> > comment to me, on looking > > at my

chart at the BAVA conference, that I> will> > never be a good vedic > >

astrologer because I think with my heart :) )> > Love,> > Gili> > >

> > > > > you can't transcend what you haven't> experienced> > > > >

> > > > > > > >"Chandrashekhar" <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> > >> >

>Dear Gili,> > >I stll have not come accross any such> reference> > in

any ancient text. > > >Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that> Retrograde>

> planet gives good results > > >even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha

,> if my> > memory serves me right.> > >I cannot understand how a planet

looses his> > Chesta bal by going to > > >exaltation Rasi.> >

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Nisha,

Which attachment?

The basic of a Parivartana Yoga, is that the grahas exchange roles. If one was

Retro the other one acts as Retro in its Dasa.

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Re: [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation sign

Om Namo Bhagawate Vaasudevaaya

Dear Visti,

What if grahas are retro as well as in parivartana? Might want to see the

attached chart of a native.

Regards,

Nisha

Visti Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Rema,

Theres a Parivartana Yoga, it means that Shukra is going to play the role of

Shani and Shani is going to play the role of Shukra. During Shani Dasa you may

expect some income from your father, or paternal relatives..

 

As for Venus.. if not a maha dasa, then surely an antara.

 

Best wishesVisti---Sri Jagannath Center: http://.orgBhagavad Purana:

http://www.srimadbhagavatam.orgiTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org

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Nisha <nishu_indiia > wrote:

Om Namo Bhagawate Vaasudevaaya

Dear Visti,

What if grahas are retro as well as in parivartana? Might want to see the

attached chart of a native.

Regards,

Nisha

Visti Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:

Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Rema,

Theres a Parivartana Yoga, it means that Shukra is going to play the role of

Shani and Shani is going to play the role of Shukra. During Shani Dasa you may

expect some income from your father, or paternal relatives..

 

As for Venus.. if not a maha dasa, then surely an antara.

 

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Re: [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation sign

Hare Rama Krishna,Namaste Visti, My lagna is Gemini. I will not have a venus

dasa, Right now am in myJupiter, next is shani.If sani will not get

debilitated, how else does thebad effect come?Thanks, Rema--- Visti Larsen

<vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:> Hare Rama Krsna>

>-->

> Dear Rema,> Swee has a similar situation as she has allready> mentioned, only

her Shani is not retrogade.> > Yes it can overcome its debilitation, but thats

not> necessarily good. What is your lagna? Venus Dasa> will give the results of

Shani.> > Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center:

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Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:00 PM> [vedic astrology] retrograde

planet in> exaltation sign> > > Hare Rama Krishna, > Namaste Visti,> >

May I ask further on the same subject, a malefic> like> shani when retrograde

and exalted in Libra should> be> considered debilitated. > > But what

happens if the shani is also in> parivarthan> with Venus. A 9/5 parivarthan.>

Does it by any chance again overcome this> debilitation?> > In navamsa

shani and venus are together in Taurus.> > Thanks, > humbly, > Rema> >

--- Visti Larsen <vishnu (AT) lbq (DOT) dk> wrote:> > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah> > >

>>

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> > > Dear Gili and Chandrashekhar,> > The results become easier to

understand when you> > keep in mind the following:> > > > A Retrograde

planet will give results only to> take> > the results away again before the

results have> been> > fulfilled completely.> > > > Hence an exalted

planet will wanto give the> highest> > results of placement, however if it is

also> > retrogade, the results will never manifest fully> > like a bee who's

hesitant to taste the nectar of> a> > flower.> > > > Hence the results

become akin to debilitation.> If> > the planet is a malefic, then a high

level of> > spirituality/renunciation can be expected,> espcially> > incase

of Shani.> > > > Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center:

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PM> > Re: [vedic astrology](for> Chandrashekhar)> > retrograde

planet in exaltation sign> > > > > > Dear Chandreshekhar,> > I

agree with you ... but it is hard for a> novice> > to determine what is true

> > when reading conflicting arguments by> respected> > authors.> >

Also my heart feels that Jupiter doesn't bring> > anything unpleasant unless

it > > is good for spiritual development.> > (That last sentence

confirms Prof. Jaya> Shekhar's> > comment to me, on looking > > at my

chart at the BAVA conference, that I> will> > never be a good vedic > >

astrologer because I think with my heart :) )> > Love,> > Gili> > >

> > > > > you can't transcend what you haven't> experienced> > > > >

> > > > > > > >"Chandrashekhar" <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk>> > >> >

>Dear Gili,> > >I stll have not come accross any such> reference> > in

any ancient text. > > >Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that> Retrograde>

> planet gives good results > > >even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha

,> if my> > memory serves me right.> > >I cannot understand how a planet

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Dear Ramadasji,

I would like to draw your kind attention to the below texts:

Jataka Parijat dhya2 Shloka 67 which says that Saturn is Bali when retrograde in all places.

and Phaldeepika Chapter 4 shloka 2 which again says about chesta bala that the

planet becomes powerful in Paramochha.

Again I draw attention to Saravali which states that some think that "

Retrogression in Exaltation. If a planet is retrograde, while in exaltation, it

produces no effect" surely this cannot mean results as if in debilitation.

Again In Horasara commentary it is stated that"Guru is exceedingly strong in

Dhanu, Meen, Kark, Vrischik and during the time preceding mid day, in his

northerly course, in his own Dreshkan, in his own Amsh and, when he succeeds in

battle between Grahas. He has medium strength in the initial part of a

Rāśi, is quite strong in the middle and weak at the end. He is

considered to be strong in retrograde motion in all Rāśis except in

the Rāśi Makar, where he is in fall"

Brihatjataka shloka 20 Adhya 2 also gives similar results for planets other than

Sun and Moon(As they get stong by Ayana and Paksha bala not being retrograde

ever) in explaining Chestabala.

I therefor do not understand the logic behind what is stated in , as you say,

Uttarakalamitra namely retrograde planet in exaltation rasi becomes as if

debilitated.

 

Your comments and those of Sanjayji and other Gurus would be appreciated much.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:10 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation sign

OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH Dear Sri Chandrashekhar, If you have UttaraKalamrita

of Kalidasa translated by Sri S.S.Sareen (Sagar Publications ),please see the

page No.14 and 15 ,vide shloka No.6.It tells about planet who is Uccha but

retrograde is considered as neecha and does not have any strength. I hope this

helps, With best regards, Ramadas Rao. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk>

wrote:

Dear Gili,

I stll have not come accross any such reference in any ancient text. Mantreshwar

says in Phaldeepika that Retrograde planet gives good results even if in Neecha

Rasi or Neecha Navamsha , if my memory serves me right.

I cannot understand how a planet looses his Chesta bal by going to exaltation Rasi.

Chandrashekhar.

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Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:10 AM

[vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation sign

Dear Chandrashekhar and All,My teacher also teaches that a retrograde planet in

its sign of exaltation is debilitated (I have Jupiter retrograde in Cancer

(6th) ).... but then what happens if there is also neechabanga?.... also is it

good or bad to have a debilitated (functional) malefic??Any comments would be

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As I posted here before, the idea that retrograde planet in

exaltation behaves as debilitated and vice versa doesnt fully prove

in the chart of a person that I saw. Visti tried to explain it, but I

am still not fully convinced. If I take A.M.R Rajagopalan's view that

retrograde motion doesnt very much affect Jupiter, that explains the

chart of the native I saw (she had retrograde and debilitated Jupiter

and it performed only as debilitated).

 

I think only a case study with a good number of charts with

retrograde but exalted/debilitated Jupiter can settle this. All

theories, no matter who says it or in what book it is given, needs to

be verified in practise.

 

-Siva.

 

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar"

<boxdel> wrote:

> Dear Ramadasji,

> I would like to draw your kind attention to the below texts:

> Jataka Parijat dhya2 Shloka 67 which says that Saturn is Bali when

retrograde in all places.

> and Phaldeepika Chapter 4 shloka 2 which again says about chesta

bala that the planet becomes powerful in Paramochha.

> Again I draw attention to Saravali which states that some think

that " Retrogression in Exaltation. If a planet is retrograde, while

in exaltation, it produces no effect" surely this cannot mean results

as if in debilitation.

> Again In Horasara commentary it is stated that"Guru is exceedingly

strong in Dhanu, Meen, Kark, Vrischik and during the time preceding

mid day, in his northerly course, in his own Dreshkan, in his own

Amsh and, when he succeeds in battle between Grahas. He has medium

strength in the initial part of a Rasi, is quite strong in the middle

and weak at the end. He is considered to be strong in retrograde

motion in all Rasis except in the Rasi Makar, where he is in fall"

> Brihatjataka shloka 20 Adhya 2 also gives similar results for

planets other than Sun and Moon(As they get stong by Ayana and Paksha

bala not being retrograde ever) in explaining Chestabala.

> I therefor do not understand the logic behind what is stated in ,

as you say, Uttarakalamitra namely retrograde planet in exaltation

rasi becomes as if debilitated.

>

> Your comments and those of Sanjayji and other Gurus would be

appreciated much.

> Chandrashekhar.

> -

> Ramadas Rao

> vedic astrology

> Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:10 AM

> Re: [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation

sign

>

>

> OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH

>

> Dear Sri Chandrashekhar,

>

> If you have UttaraKalamrita of Kalidasa translated by Sri

S.S.Sareen (Sagar Publications ),please see the page No.14 and

15 ,vide shloka No.6.It tells about planet who is Uccha but

retrograde is considered as neecha and does not have any strength.

>

> I hope this helps,

>

> With best regards,

>

> Ramadas Rao.

>

> Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:

>

> Dear Gili,

> I stll have not come accross any such reference in any ancient

text. Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that Retrograde planet gives

good results even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha , if my memory

serves me right.

> I cannot understand how a planet looses his Chesta bal by going

to exaltation Rasi.

> Chandrashekhar.

> -

> Gili Alvey

> vedic astrology

> Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:10 AM

> [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation

sign

>

>

> Dear Chandrashekhar and All,

> My teacher also teaches that a retrograde planet in its sign

of exaltation

> is debilitated (I have Jupiter retrograde in Cancer (6th) )

> .... but then what happens if there is also neechabanga?

> .... also is it good or bad to have a debilitated

(functional) malefic??

> Any comments would be very welcome.

> Love,

> Gili

>

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Hare Rama Krsna

Dear Siva,

Are you talking about the case with Debilitated and Retro Jup in Dusthana? If so

the principle i gave is from Sanjay Rath, these aren't my own explanations.

 

Possibly you should try to understand the logic first.. retrograde planets act

like the nodes, and the nodes have a long story to tell about our past karma.

 

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Friday, February 07, 2003 9:46 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: retrograde planet in exaltation sign

As I posted here before, the idea that retrograde planet in exaltation

behaves as debilitated and vice versa doesnt fully prove in the chart of a

person that I saw. Visti tried to explain it, but I am still not fully

convinced. If I take A.M.R Rajagopalan's view that retrograde motion doesnt

very much affect Jupiter, that explains the chart of the native I saw (she had

retrograde and debilitated Jupiter and it performed only as debilitated). I

think only a case study with a good number of charts with retrograde but

exalted/debilitated Jupiter can settle this. All theories, no matter who says

it or in what book it is given, needs to be verified in practise.-Siva.--- In

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" <boxdel> wrote:> Dear

Ramadasji,> I would like to draw your kind attention to the below texts:>

Jataka Parijat dhya2 Shloka 67 which says that Saturn is Bali when retrograde

in all places.> and Phaldeepika Chapter 4 shloka 2 which again says about

chesta bala that the planet becomes powerful in Paramochha.> Again I draw

attention to Saravali which states that some think that " Retrogression in

Exaltation. If a planet is retrograde, while in exaltation, it produces no

effect" surely this cannot mean results as if in debilitation.> Again In

Horasara commentary it is stated that"Guru is exceedingly strong in Dhanu,

Meen, Kark, Vrischik and during the time preceding mid day, in his northerly

course, in his own Dreshkan, in his own Amsh and, when he succeeds in battle

between Grahas. He has medium strength in the initial part of a Rasi, is quite

strong in the middle and weak at the end. He is considered to be strong in

retrograde motion in all Rasis except in the Rasi Makar, where he is in fall">

Brihatjataka shloka 20 Adhya 2 also gives similar results for planets other

than Sun and Moon(As they get stong by Ayana and Paksha bala not being

retrograde ever) in explaining Chestabala.> I therefor do not understand the

logic behind what is stated in , as you say, Uttarakalamitra namely retrograde

planet in exaltation rasi becomes as if debilitated.> > Your comments and those

of Sanjayji and other Gurus would be appreciated much.> Chandrashekhar.> -----

Original Message ----- > Ramadas Rao > To:

vedic astrology > Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:10

AM> Re: [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation sign> > >

OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH > > Dear Sri Chandrashekhar, > > If you have

UttaraKalamrita of Kalidasa translated by Sri S.S.Sareen (Sagar Publications

),please see the page No.14 and 15 ,vide shloka No.6.It tells about planet who

is Uccha but retrograde is considered as neecha and does not have any strength.

> > I hope this helps, > > With best regards, > > Ramadas Rao. > >

Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > > Dear Gili,> I stll have not

come accross any such reference in any ancient text. Mantreshwar says in

Phaldeepika that Retrograde planet gives good results even if in Neecha Rasi or

Neecha Navamsha , if my memory serves me right.> I cannot understand how a

planet looses his Chesta bal by going to exaltation Rasi.> Chandrashekhar.>

- > Gili Alvey > To:

vedic astrology > Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:10

AM> [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation sign> > >

Dear Chandrashekhar and All,> My teacher also teaches that a

retrograde planet in its sign of exaltation > is debilitated (I have

Jupiter retrograde in Cancer (6th) )> .... but then what happens if there

is also neechabanga?> .... also is it good or bad to have a debilitated

(functional) malefic??> Any comments would be very welcome.> Love,>

Gili> > you can't transcend what you haven't experienced> > > >

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Dear Vistiji,

Yes! I am talking about the debt & retro Jupiter in 12th chart.

The principle you gave is different from Sanjay's.

 

This is what you said:

"A benefic retrograde in the Exaltation sign in Dusthana is a

blessing from past birth, whilst if its debilitated its a curse.. Why"

 

In the message 9002 in Varahamihira list, Sarajit Poddar quotes an

Express Starteller interview of Sanjayji, where he (Sanjay) says this:

 

"If a natural benefic is retrograde & debilitated in a QUADRANT or

TRINE indicates a curse from the past life. The opposite occurs in

dusthana."

 

So if we take the principle of Sanjayji, it is obvious that for this

native, retro and debilitated Jupiter was not a curse, but a blessing

(opposite occurs in a dusthana). If the idea that deb & retro

jupuiter it akin to Jupiter in exaltation is taken, then it doesnt

explain her chart (even though Jupiter is in 12 - i have seen some

charts with jupiter in 12, they didnt have to go through what this

native went through in her jupiter dasa). For this native, most of

the planets except jupiter are well placed, and the problem is only

in jupiter dasha and clearly Jupiter was the culprit.

 

Reg understanding the logic/fundamental philosophy, I will do it

only after I am convinced that it works. Otherwise, I am afraid I

will be learning the wrong theory/fundamentals. That is why I am

insisting on case studies before jumping into learning the theory

behind retrogression.

 

regards,

-Siva.

 

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...>

wrote:

> Hare Rama Krsna

>

> --

------------

>

> Dear Siva,

> Are you talking about the case with Debilitated and Retro Jup in

Dusthana? If so the principle i gave is from Sanjay Rath, these

aren't my own explanations.

>

> Possibly you should try to understand the logic first.. retrograde

planets act like the nodes, and the nodes have a long story to tell

about our past karma.

>

> Best wishes

> Visti

> ---

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> vedic astrology

> Friday, February 07, 2003 9:46 PM

> [vedic astrology] Re: retrograde planet in exaltation

sign

>

>

> As I posted here before, the idea that retrograde planet in

> exaltation behaves as debilitated and vice versa doesnt fully

prove

> in the chart of a person that I saw. Visti tried to explain it,

but I

> am still not fully convinced. If I take A.M.R Rajagopalan's view

that

> retrograde motion doesnt very much affect Jupiter, that explains

the

> chart of the native I saw (she had retrograde and debilitated

Jupiter

> and it performed only as debilitated).

>

> I think only a case study with a good number of charts with

> retrograde but exalted/debilitated Jupiter can settle this. All

> theories, no matter who says it or in what book it is given,

needs to

> be verified in practise.

>

> -Siva.

>

> vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar"

> <boxdel> wrote:

> > Dear Ramadasji,

> > I would like to draw your kind attention to the below texts:

> > Jataka Parijat dhya2 Shloka 67 which says that Saturn is Bali

when

> retrograde in all places.

> > and Phaldeepika Chapter 4 shloka 2 which again says about

chesta

> bala that the planet becomes powerful in Paramochha.

> > Again I draw attention to Saravali which states that some think

> that " Retrogression in Exaltation. If a planet is retrograde,

while

> in exaltation, it produces no effect" surely this cannot mean

results

> as if in debilitation.

> > Again In Horasara commentary it is stated that"Guru is

exceedingly

> strong in Dhanu, Meen, Kark, Vrischik and during the time

preceding

> mid day, in his northerly course, in his own Dreshkan, in his own

> Amsh and, when he succeeds in battle between Grahas. He has

medium

> strength in the initial part of a Rasi, is quite strong in the

middle

> and weak at the end. He is considered to be strong in retrograde

> motion in all Rasis except in the Rasi Makar, where he is in fall"

> > Brihatjataka shloka 20 Adhya 2 also gives similar results for

> planets other than Sun and Moon(As they get stong by Ayana and

Paksha

> bala not being retrograde ever) in explaining Chestabala.

> > I therefor do not understand the logic behind what is stated

in ,

> as you say, Uttarakalamitra namely retrograde planet in

exaltation

> rasi becomes as if debilitated.

> >

> > Your comments and those of Sanjayji and other Gurus would be

> appreciated much.

> > Chandrashekhar.

> > -

> > Ramadas Rao

> > vedic astrology

> > Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:10 AM

> > Re: [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in

exaltation

> sign

> >

> >

> > OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH

> >

> > Dear Sri Chandrashekhar,

> >

> > If you have UttaraKalamrita of Kalidasa translated by Sri

> S.S.Sareen (Sagar Publications ),please see the page No.14 and

> 15 ,vide shloka No.6.It tells about planet who is Uccha but

> retrograde is considered as neecha and does not have any

strength.

> >

> > I hope this helps,

> >

> > With best regards,

> >

> > Ramadas Rao.

> >

> > Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote:

> >

> > Dear Gili,

> > I stll have not come accross any such reference in any

ancient

> text. Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that Retrograde planet

gives

> good results even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha , if my

memory

> serves me right.

> > I cannot understand how a planet looses his Chesta bal by

going

> to exaltation Rasi.

> > Chandrashekhar.

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> >

> >

> > Dear Chandrashekhar and All,

> > My teacher also teaches that a retrograde planet in its

sign

> of exaltation

> > is debilitated (I have Jupiter retrograde in Cancer

(6th) )

> > .... but then what happens if there is also neechabanga?

> > .... also is it good or bad to have a debilitated

> (functional) malefic??

> > Any comments would be very welcome.

> > Love,

> > Gili

> >

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Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah

Hi Siva,

woooops, i guess i got confused after all the talk on exaltation and

debilitation words flying around, yet i managed to use the principle proppperly

in another post where a malefic was retro and debilitated in a Kendra..

peculiar.

 

I sometimes neglect to give predictions on chart placement, when people post

them online, because there are many factors to keep into consideration.. was it

bad financially only? If so check the placement from Arudha Lagna. How about

life in general? - Check Sun, Lagna and Atmakaraka. Healthwise? - Check 6th,

8th and badhak sthanas..

 

In other words.. how was it hell? - She's given a blessing and she feels its a

curse? Maybe she didn't get what she expected. Send us the chart.

 

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vedic astrology

Friday, February 07, 2003 11:23 PM

[vedic astrology] Re: retrograde planet in exaltation sign

Dear Vistiji, Yes! I am talking about the debt & retro Jupiter in 12th chart.

The principle you gave is different from Sanjay's.This is what you said:"A

benefic retrograde in the Exaltation sign in Dusthana is a blessing from past

birth, whilst if its debilitated its a curse.. Why"In the message 9002 in

Varahamihira list, Sarajit Poddar quotes an Express Starteller interview of

Sanjayji, where he (Sanjay) says this:"If a natural benefic is retrograde &

debilitated in a QUADRANT or TRINE indicates a curse from the past life. The

opposite occurs in dusthana."So if we take the principle of Sanjayji, it is

obvious that for this native, retro and debilitated Jupiter was not a curse,

but a blessing (opposite occurs in a dusthana). If the idea that deb & retro

jupuiter it akin to Jupiter in exaltation is taken, then it doesnt explain her

chart (even though Jupiter is in 12 - i have seen some charts with jupiter in

12, they didnt have to go through what this native went through in her jupiter

dasa). For this native, most of the planets except jupiter are well placed, and

the problem is only in jupiter dasha and clearly Jupiter was the culprit.Reg

understanding the logic/fundamental philosophy, I will do it only after I am

convinced that it works. Otherwise, I am afraid I will be learning the wrong

theory/fundamentals. That is why I am insisting on case studies before jumping

into learning the theory behind retrogression. regards,-Siva.--- In

vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> wrote:> Hare Rama

Krsna> >

-->

> Dear Siva,> Are you talking about the case with Debilitated and Retro Jup in

Dusthana? If so the principle i gave is from Sanjay Rath, these aren't my own

explanations.> > Possibly you should try to understand the logic first..

retrograde planets act like the nodes, and the nodes have a long story to tell

about our past karma.> > Best wishes> Visti> ---> Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org>

iTRANS 99 Font: http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> ----- Original Message

----- > schinnas <schinnas> > To:

vedic astrology > Friday, February 07, 2003 9:46 PM>

[vedic astrology] Re: retrograde planet in exaltation sign> > >

As I posted here before, the idea that retrograde planet in > exaltation

behaves as debilitated and vice versa doesnt fully prove > in the chart of a

person that I saw. Visti tried to explain it, but I > am still not fully

convinced. If I take A.M.R Rajagopalan's view that > retrograde motion doesnt

very much affect Jupiter, that explains the > chart of the native I saw (she

had retrograde and debilitated Jupiter > and it performed only as

debilitated).> > I think only a case study with a good number of charts

with > retrograde but exalted/debilitated Jupiter can settle this. All >

theories, no matter who says it or in what book it is given, needs to > be

verified in practise.> > -Siva.> > vedic astrology,

"Chandrashekhar" > <boxdel> wrote:> > Dear Ramadasji,> > I would

like to draw your kind attention to the below texts:> > Jataka Parijat dhya2

Shloka 67 which says that Saturn is Bali when > retrograde in all places.>

> and Phaldeepika Chapter 4 shloka 2 which again says about chesta > bala

that the planet becomes powerful in Paramochha.> > Again I draw attention to

Saravali which states that some think > that " Retrogression in Exaltation.

If a planet is retrograde, while > in exaltation, it produces no effect"

surely this cannot mean results > as if in debilitation.> > Again In

Horasara commentary it is stated that"Guru is exceedingly > strong in Dhanu,

Meen, Kark, Vrischik and during the time preceding > mid day, in his

northerly course, in his own Dreshkan, in his own > Amsh and, when he

succeeds in battle between Grahas. He has medium > strength in the initial

part of a Rasi, is quite strong in the middle > and weak at the end. He is

considered to be strong in retrograde > motion in all Rasis except in the

Rasi Makar, where he is in fall"> > Brihatjataka shloka 20 Adhya 2 also gives

similar results for > planets other than Sun and Moon(As they get stong by

Ayana and Paksha > bala not being retrograde ever) in explaining Chestabala.>

> I therefor do not understand the logic behind what is stated in , > as you

say, Uttarakalamitra namely retrograde planet in exaltation > rasi becomes as

if debilitated.> > > > Your comments and those of Sanjayji and other Gurus

would be > appreciated much.> > Chandrashekhar.> > ----- Original Message

----- > > Ramadas Rao > > vedic astrology >

> Wednesday, February 05, 2003 11:10 AM> > Re:

[vedic astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation > sign> > > > > >

OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH > > > > Dear Sri Chandrashekhar, > > > >

If you have UttaraKalamrita of Kalidasa translated by Sri > S.S.Sareen (Sagar

Publications ),please see the page No.14 and > 15 ,vide shloka No.6.It tells

about planet who is Uccha but > retrograde is considered as neecha and does

not have any strength. > > > > I hope this helps, > > > > With best

regards, > > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > Chandrashekhar <boxdel>

wrote: > > > > Dear Gili,> > I stll have not come accross any

such reference in any ancient > text. Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that

Retrograde planet gives > good results even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha

Navamsha , if my memory > serves me right.> > I cannot understand how a

planet looses his Chesta bal by going > to exaltation Rasi.> >

Chandrashekhar.> > - > > Gili

Alvey > > vedic astrology > > Sent:

Tuesday, February 04, 2003 4:10 AM> > [vedic astrology]

retrograde planet in exaltation > sign> > > > > > Dear

Chandrashekhar and All,> > My teacher also teaches that a retrograde

planet in its sign > of exaltation > > is debilitated (I have Jupiter

retrograde in Cancer (6th) )> > .... but then what happens if there is

also neechabanga?> > .... also is it good or bad to have a debilitated

> (functional) malefic??> > Any comments would be very welcome.> >

Love,> > Gili> > > > you can't transcend what you haven't

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Thought this might help... Here's a chart of someone I know very

well with Jupiter exalted and retrograde in the 6th house.

 

Nov 20,1942

Time: 1:38PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0

Longitude: 80E43 Latitude: 7N18

 

Best regards,

Harsha

 

 

 

vedic astrology, Nisha <nishu_indiia>

wrote:

>

>

> Nisha <nishu_indiia> wrote:

> Om Namo Bhagawate Vaasudevaaya

> Dear Visti,

> What if grahas are retro as well as in parivartana? Might want to

see the attached chart of a native.

> Regards,

> Nisha

> Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote: Hare Rama Krsna

>

> Dear Rema,Theres a Parivartana Yoga, it means that Shukra is going

to play the role of Shani and Shani is going to play the role of

Shukra. During Shani Dasa you may expect some income from your

father, or paternal relatives.. As for Venus.. if not a maha dasa,

then surely an antara. Best wishes

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> Hare Rama Krishna,

> Namaste Visti,

>

> My lagna is Gemini.

> I will not have a venus dasa, Right now am in my

> Jupiter, next is shani.

> If sani will not get debilitated, how else does the

> bad effect come?

>

> Thanks,

> Rema

>

>

> --- Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote:

> > Hare Rama Krsna

> >

> >

> -

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> >

> > Dear Rema,

> > Swee has a similar situation as she has allready

> > mentioned, only her Shani is not retrogade.

> >

> > Yes it can overcome its debilitation, but thats not

> > necessarily good. What is your lagna? Venus Dasa

> > will give the results of Shani.

> >

> > Best wishes

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> > Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:00 PM

> > [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in

> > exaltation sign

> >

> >

> > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > Namaste Visti,

> >

> > May I ask further on the same subject, a malefic

> > like

> > shani when retrograde and exalted in Libra should

> > be

> > considered debilitated.

> >

> > But what happens if the shani is also in

> > parivarthan

> > with Venus. A 9/5 parivarthan.

> > Does it by any chance again overcome this

> > debilitation?

> >

> > In navamsa shani and venus are together in Taurus.

> >

> > Thanks,

> > humbly,

> > Rema

> >

> > --- Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote:

> > > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah

> > >

> > >

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> > > Dear Gili and Chandrashekhar,

> > > The results become easier to understand when you

> > > keep in mind the following:

> > >

> > > A Retrograde planet will give results only to

> > take

> > > the results away again before the results have

> > been

> > > fulfilled completely.

> > >

> > > Hence an exalted planet will wanto give the

> > highest

> > > results of placement, however if it is also

> > > retrogade, the results will never manifest fully

> > > like a bee who's hesitant to taste the nectar of

> > a

> > > flower.

> > >

> > > Hence the results become akin to debilitation.

> > If

> > > the planet is a malefic, then a high level of

> > > spirituality/renunciation can be expected,

> > espcially

> > > incase of Shani.

> > >

> > > Best wishes

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> > > Re: [vedic astrology](for

> > Chandrashekhar)

> > > retrograde planet in exaltation sign

> > >

> > >

> > > Dear Chandreshekhar,

> > > I agree with you ... but it is hard for a

> > novice

> > > to determine what is true

> > > when reading conflicting arguments by

> > respected

> > > authors.

> > > Also my heart feels that Jupiter doesn't bring

> > > anything unpleasant unless it

> > > is good for spiritual development.

> > > (That last sentence confirms Prof. Jaya

> > Shekhar's

> > > comment to me, on looking

> > > at my chart at the BAVA conference, that I

> > will

> > > never be a good vedic

> > > astrologer because I think with my heart :) )

> > > Love,

> > > Gili

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > you can't transcend what you haven't

> > experienced

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > >

> > > >"Chandrashekhar" <boxdel>

> > > >

> > > >Dear Gili,

> > > >I stll have not come accross any such

> > reference

> > > in any ancient text.

> > > >Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that

> > Retrograde

> > > planet gives good results

> > > >even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha ,

> > if my

> > > memory serves me right.

> > > >I cannot understand how a planet looses his

> > > Chesta bal by going to

> > > >exaltation Rasi.

> > > >Chandrashekhar.

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Dear Sarajit,

 

Very good analysis. Her enemies are all 2 faced, they never show it

to her but they do not like her, they seem to fear her. Yes, they do

seem to suffer badly. Regarding children, she is extremely fortunate.

 

This it a bit off the point but I notice she has two Raja Yogas (Su,

Ve & Ma, Me). How is it that she has not benefited through these?

 

Best regards,

Harsha

 

 

 

 

 

vedic astrology, "Sarajit Poddar"

<sarajit@s...> wrote:

> Jaya Jagannath

> Dear Harsha,

>

> Thanks for the birth info. Lets analyse the chart on the basis of

the ideas given by Pt. Sanjay Rath:

> +--------------+

> | |Mo |SaR AL |HL GL |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> |As Ke | |JuR |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-----------| Rasi |-----------|

> | | |Ra |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> | | | |

> |-----------+-----------------------+-----------|

> |Md |Su Ve |Ma Me | |

> | |Gk | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> | | | | |

> +--------------+

>

> 1. Retrograde planet indicates denial of its fruits for which a

lot of additional effort will have to be made.

>

> The sixth house significations are Enemies, Servants, Accidents,

short term diseases, and Service. Now what a native wants from the

6th house is a harmony with the significations. Benefic like Jupiter

in the 6th is considered to be very good as it shows that the person

will lack any enemies and will have good relations with all. This

also means that, if there are enemies, they will suffer badly. Now

retrogression shows that the native will strive hard to get the

harmony, mentioned above and will have a focus towards pacifying

others so that there are no enemies. The enemies if will be quite

decieving as they will behave as if there is no enemity (normal Jup

in 6th), however, they will not feel the same inside and will try to

prey on the native, whenever such situation arises. The servants

will look as if very faithful, but will change face, under many

circumstances. In the service of others, the native will face lots

of misunderstanding. However the native will always strive hard to

remove any such misunderstanding. 6th is also the house of maternal

uncles. The native will always try to maintain good relations with

his maternal uncles (if any).

>

> 2. It will behave as if it is in the 7th.

>

> This will make Jupiter debilitated in the 12th house. Benefics in

the 12th house is always considered good, even if debilitated. The

native will have good fortune in foreign land, although the

debilitation show, that occasionally he will face situations which

he doesnot like. The native will spend a lot in charity. Bhavartha

Ratnakara says that the person becomes fortunate related to those

house, whose karaka is placed in the 12th house. Thus the native

will be fortunate with regards to his children.

>

> Now the native will ultimately realise the 6th house indications

for which he had been striving for quite long.

>

> Best Regards

> Sarajit

>

>

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> Saturday, February 08, 2003 8:10 AM

> [vedic astrology] Re: retrograde planet in exaltation sign

>

>

> > Thought this might help... Here's a chart of someone I know very

> > well with Jupiter exalted and retrograde in the 6th house.

> >

> > Nov 20,1942

> > Time: 1:38PM Zone: 5:30 DST: 0

> > Longitude: 80E43 Latitude: 7N18

> >

> > Best regards,

> > Harsha

> >

> >

> >

> > vedic astrology, Nisha

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> > wrote:

> > >

> > >

> > > Nisha <nishu_indiia> wrote:

> > > Om Namo Bhagawate Vaasudevaaya

> > > Dear Visti,

> > > What if grahas are retro as well as in parivartana? Might want

to

> > see the attached chart of a native.

> > > Regards,

> > > Nisha

> > > Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote: Hare Rama Krsna

> > >

> > > Dear Rema,Theres a Parivartana Yoga, it means that Shukra is

going

> > to play the role of Shani and Shani is going to play the role of

> > Shukra. During Shani Dasa you may expect some income from your

> > father, or paternal relatives.. As for Venus.. if not a maha

dasa,

> > then surely an antara. Best wishes

> > > Visti

> > > ---

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> > Wednesday, February 05, 2003 9:51 PMRe: [vedic-

> > astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation sign

> > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > Namaste Visti,

> > >

> > > My lagna is Gemini.

> > > I will not have a venus dasa, Right now am in my

> > > Jupiter, next is shani.

> > > If sani will not get debilitated, how else does the

> > > bad effect come?

> > >

> > > Thanks,

> > > Rema

> > >

> > >

> > > --- Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote:

> > > > Hare Rama Krsna

> > > >

> > > >

> > > ------------------------------

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> > -------------

> > > >

> > > > Dear Rema,

> > > > Swee has a similar situation as she has allready

> > > > mentioned, only her Shani is not retrogade.

> > > >

> > > > Yes it can overcome its debilitation, but thats not

> > > > necessarily good. What is your lagna? Venus Dasa

> > > > will give the results of Shani.

> > > >

> > > > Best wishes

> > > > Visti

> > > > ---

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> > > > Rema Menon

> > > > vedic astrology

> > > > Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:00 PM

> > > > [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in

> > > > exaltation sign

> > > >

> > > >

> > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > > Namaste Visti,

> > > >

> > > > May I ask further on the same subject, a malefic

> > > > like

> > > > shani when retrograde and exalted in Libra should

> > > > be

> > > > considered debilitated.

> > > >

> > > > But what happens if the shani is also in

> > > > parivarthan

> > > > with Venus. A 9/5 parivarthan.

> > > > Does it by any chance again overcome this

> > > > debilitation?

> > > >

> > > > In navamsa shani and venus are together in Taurus.

> > > >

> > > > Thanks,

> > > > humbly,

> > > > Rema

> > > >

> > > > --- Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote:

> > > > > Vyam Vyaasadevaaya Namah

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

> > > >

> > > ------------------------------

----

> > -------------

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Gili and Chandrashekhar,

> > > > > The results become easier to understand when you

> > > > > keep in mind the following:

> > > > >

> > > > > A Retrograde planet will give results only to

> > > > take

> > > > > the results away again before the results have

> > > > been

> > > > > fulfilled completely.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hence an exalted planet will wanto give the

> > > > highest

> > > > > results of placement, however if it is also

> > > > > retrogade, the results will never manifest fully

> > > > > like a bee who's hesitant to taste the nectar of

> > > > a

> > > > > flower.

> > > > >

> > > > > Hence the results become akin to debilitation.

> > > > If

> > > > > the planet is a malefic, then a high level of

> > > > > spirituality/renunciation can be expected,

> > > > espcially

> > > > > incase of Shani.

> > > > >

> > > > > Best wishes

> > > > > Visti

> > > > > ---

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> > > > > Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:05 PM

> > > > > Re: [vedic astrology](for

> > > > Chandrashekhar)

> > > > > retrograde planet in exaltation sign

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > Dear Chandreshekhar,

> > > > > I agree with you ... but it is hard for a

> > > > novice

> > > > > to determine what is true

> > > > > when reading conflicting arguments by

> > > > respected

> > > > > authors.

> > > > > Also my heart feels that Jupiter doesn't bring

> > > > > anything unpleasant unless it

> > > > > is good for spiritual development.

> > > > > (That last sentence confirms Prof. Jaya

> > > > Shekhar's

> > > > > comment to me, on looking

> > > > > at my chart at the BAVA conference, that I

> > > > will

> > > > > never be a good vedic

> > > > > astrologer because I think with my heart :) )

> > > > > Love,

> > > > > Gili

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > you can't transcend what you haven't

> > > > experienced

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > > >"Chandrashekhar" <boxdel>

> > > > > >

> > > > > >Dear Gili,

> > > > > >I stll have not come accross any such

> > > > reference

> > > > > in any ancient text.

> > > > > >Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that

> > > > Retrograde

> > > > > planet gives good results

> > > > > >even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha ,

> > > > if my

> > > > > memory serves me right.

> > > > > >I cannot understand how a planet looses his

> > > > > Chesta bal by going to

> > > > > >exaltation Rasi.

> > > > > >Chandrashekhar.

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > > >

> > > >

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Jaya Jagannath,

Dear Siva,

 

Let me put some more light in this area

 

Sage Parashara Says in the Immortal Classic BPHS, in the chapter, Evils at Birth,

 

If a benefic is retrograde in Ari, Randhr, or Vyaya Bhava, receiving a Drishti

from a malefic, death will occur within a month of birth. However, if Lagna is

occupied by a natural benefic, this evil is mitigated.

 

Even though Maharishi Parashara has given this sloka in the chapter of Evils at

Birth, in the actual practice it is seen that this is applicable during the

dasa of the retrograde planet under consideration, where the native suffers

severely. The aspect of a malefic on the retrograde planet intensifies the evil

to multiple extent and the life becomes hellish, if no benefic aspect the

retrograde Planet and the Lagna to mitigate it.

 

In my previous post, I have shown, how the results of the debilitation of the

planet remains, even though the native enjoys the fruits of exaltation for some

period. Now applying the same principle here, we can explain the 2nd principle.

This is a well known principle that, Malefics debilitated in a Kendra gives

Rajayoga and in exaltation gives Mahapurusha Yoga. So we see that if Malefics

are retrograde and debilitated in the Kendra, the will tend to give the results

of Mahapurusha yoga, giving the native the divinely qualities of the malefic

planets and they will give results of Rajayoga too during the end period

because of the debilitation in the Kendra. So the native gains both ways and

hence it is considered as Blessing.

 

This is my understanding. Now, let me think on what happens, when the retrograde

benefic is debilitated in the dusthana, how, the evil turns into a blessing.

Similarly what happens when the malefics are placed in Dusthana retrograde and

debilitated.

 

Best Wishes

Sarajit

 

 

 

 

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<schinnas >

<vedic astrology>

Saturday, February 08, 2003 6:23 AM

[vedic astrology] Re: retrograde planet in exaltation sign

> Dear Vistiji,> Yes! I am talking about the debt & retro Jupiter in 12th

chart. > The principle you gave is different from Sanjay's.> > This is what you

said:> "A benefic retrograde in the Exaltation sign in Dusthana is a > blessing

from past birth, whilst if its debilitated its a curse.. Why"> > In the message

9002 in Varahamihira list, Sarajit Poddar quotes an > Express Starteller

interview of Sanjayji, where he (Sanjay) says this:> > "If a natural benefic is

retrograde & debilitated in a QUADRANT or > TRINE indicates a curse from the

past life. The opposite occurs in > dusthana."> > So if we take the principle

of Sanjayji, it is obvious that for this > native, retro and debilitated

Jupiter was not a curse, but a blessing > (opposite occurs in a dusthana). If

the idea that deb & retro > jupuiter it akin to Jupiter in exaltation is taken,

then it doesnt > explain her chart (even though Jupiter is in 12 - i have seen

some > charts with jupiter in 12, they didnt have to go through what this >

native went through in her jupiter dasa). For this native, most of > the

planets except jupiter are well placed, and the problem is only > in jupiter

dasha and clearly Jupiter was the culprit.> > Reg understanding the

logic/fundamental philosophy, I will do it > only after I am convinced that it

works. Otherwise, I am afraid I > will be learning the wrong

theory/fundamentals. That is why I am > insisting on case studies before

jumping into learning the theory > behind retrogression. > > regards,> -Siva.>

> vedic astrology, "Visti Larsen" <vishnu@l...> >

wrote:> > Hare Rama Krsna> > > >

-->

------------> > > > Dear Siva,> > Are you talking about the case with

Debilitated and Retro Jup in > Dusthana? If so the principle i gave is from

Sanjay Rath, these > aren't my own explanations.> > > > Possibly you should try

to understand the logic first.. retrograde > planets act like the nodes, and the

nodes have a long story to tell > about our past karma.> > > > Best wishes> >

Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center: http://.org> > Bhagavad

Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> > iTRANS 99 Font:

http://www.omkarananda-ashram.org> > - > >

schinnas <schinnas> > > vedic astrology > > Sent:

Friday, February 07, 2003 9:46 PM> > [vedic astrology] Re:

retrograde planet in exaltation > sign> > > > > > As I posted here before,

the idea that retrograde planet in > > exaltation behaves as debilitated and

vice versa doesnt fully > prove > > in the chart of a person that I saw.

Visti tried to explain it, > but I > > am still not fully convinced. If I

take A.M.R Rajagopalan's view > that > > retrograde motion doesnt very much

affect Jupiter, that explains > the > > chart of the native I saw (she had

retrograde and debilitated > Jupiter > > and it performed only as

debilitated).> > > > I think only a case study with a good number of

charts with > > retrograde but exalted/debilitated Jupiter can settle this.

All > > theories, no matter who says it or in what book it is given, > needs

to > > be verified in practise.> > > > -Siva.> > > > --- In

vedic astrology, "Chandrashekhar" > > <boxdel> wrote:> >

> Dear Ramadasji,> > > I would like to draw your kind attention to the below

texts:> > > Jataka Parijat dhya2 Shloka 67 which says that Saturn is Bali >

when > > retrograde in all places.> > > and Phaldeepika Chapter 4 shloka 2

which again says about > chesta > > bala that the planet becomes powerful in

Paramochha.> > > Again I draw attention to Saravali which states that some

think > > that " Retrogression in Exaltation. If a planet is retrograde, >

while > > in exaltation, it produces no effect" surely this cannot mean >

results > > as if in debilitation.> > > Again In Horasara commentary it is

stated that"Guru is > exceedingly > > strong in Dhanu, Meen, Kark, Vrischik

and during the time > preceding > > mid day, in his northerly course, in his

own Dreshkan, in his own > > Amsh and, when he succeeds in battle between

Grahas. He has > medium > > strength in the initial part of a Rasi, is quite

strong in the > middle > > and weak at the end. He is considered to be strong

in retrograde > > motion in all Rasis except in the Rasi Makar, where he is in

fall"> > > Brihatjataka shloka 20 Adhya 2 also gives similar results for > >

planets other than Sun and Moon(As they get stong by Ayana and > Paksha > >

bala not being retrograde ever) in explaining Chestabala.> > > I therefor do

not understand the logic behind what is stated > in , > > as you say,

Uttarakalamitra namely retrograde planet in > exaltation > > rasi becomes as

if debilitated.> > > > > > Your comments and those of Sanjayji and other

Gurus would be > > appreciated much.> > > Chandrashekhar.> > > -----

Original Message ----- > > > Ramadas Rao > > > To:

vedic astrology > > > Wednesday, February 05, 2003

11:10 AM> > > Re: [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in >

exaltation > > sign> > > > > > > > > OM KLEEM KRISHNAAYA NAMAH > >

> > > > Dear Sri Chandrashekhar, > > > > > > If you have

UttaraKalamrita of Kalidasa translated by Sri > > S.S.Sareen (Sagar

Publications ),please see the page No.14 and > > 15 ,vide shloka No.6.It

tells about planet who is Uccha but > > retrograde is considered as neecha

and does not have any > strength. > > > > > > I hope this helps, > > >

> > > With best regards, > > > > > > Ramadas Rao. > > > > > >

Chandrashekhar <boxdel> wrote: > > > > > > Dear Gili,> > > I

stll have not come accross any such reference in any > ancient > > text.

Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that Retrograde planet > gives > > good

results even if in Neecha Rasi or Neecha Navamsha , if my > memory > > serves

me right.> > > I cannot understand how a planet looses his Chesta bal by >

going > > to exaltation Rasi.> > > Chandrashekhar.> > > -----

Original Message ----- > > > Gili Alvey > > > To:

vedic astrology > > > Tuesday, February 04, 2003

4:10 AM> > > [vedic astrology] retrograde planet in >

exaltation > > sign> > > > > > > > > Dear Chandrashekhar and

All,> > > My teacher also teaches that a retrograde planet in its >

sign > > of exaltation > > > is debilitated (I have Jupiter

retrograde in Cancer > (6th) )> > > .... but then what happens if there

is also neechabanga?> > > .... also is it good or bad to have a

debilitated > > (functional) malefic??> > > Any comments would be

very welcome.> > > Love,> > > Gili> > > > > > you

can't transcend what you haven't experienced> > > > > > > > > > > >

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Jaya Jagannath

Dear Harsha,

 

Thanks for the birth info. Lets analyse the chart on the basis of the ideas

given by Pt. Sanjay Rath:

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1. Retrograde planet indicates denial of its fruits for which a lot of

additional effort will have to be made.

 

The sixth house significations are Enemies, Servants, Accidents, short term

diseases, and Service. Now what a native wants from the 6th house is a harmony

with the significations. Benefic like Jupiter in the 6th is considered to be

very good as it shows that the person will lack any enemies and will have good

relations with all. This also means that, if there are enemies, they will

suffer badly. Now retrogression shows that the native will strive hard to get

the harmony, mentioned above and will have a focus towards pacifying others so

that there are no enemies. The enemies if will be quite decieving as they will

behave as if there is no enemity (normal Jup in 6th), however, they will not

feel the same inside and will try to prey on the native, whenever such

situation arises. The servants will look as if very faithful, but will change

face, under many circumstances. In the service of others, the native will face

lots of misunderstanding. However the native will always strive hard to remove

any such misunderstanding. 6th is also the house of maternal uncles. The native

will always try to maintain good relations with his maternal uncles (if any).

 

2. It will behave as if it is in the 7th.

 

This will make Jupiter debilitated in the 12th house. Benefics in the 12th house

is always considered good, even if debilitated. The native will have good

fortune in foreign land, although the debilitation show, that occasionally he

will face situations which he doesnot like. The native will spend a lot in

charity. Bhavartha Ratnakara says that the person becomes fortunate related to

those house, whose karaka is placed in the 12th house. Thus the native will be

fortunate with regards to his children.

 

Now the native will ultimately realise the 6th house indications for which he

had been striving for quite long.

 

Best Regards

Sarajit

 

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[vedic astrology] Re: retrograde planet in exaltation sign

> Thought this might help... Here's a chart of someone I know very > well with

Jupiter exalted and retrograde in the 6th house.> > Nov 20,1942> Time: 1:38PM

Zone: 5:30 DST: 0> Longitude: 80E43 Latitude: 7N18> > Best regards,> Harsha>

> > > vedic astrology, Nisha <nishu_indiia> >

wrote:> > > > > > Nisha <nishu_indiia> wrote:> > Om Namo Bhagawate

Vaasudevaaya > > Dear Visti, > > What if grahas are retro as well as in

parivartana? Might want to > see the attached chart of a native. > > Regards, >

> Nisha > > Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote: Hare Rama Krsna> >

> > Dear Rema,Theres a Parivartana Yoga, it

means that Shukra is going > to play the role of Shani and Shani is going to

play the role of > Shukra. During Shani Dasa you may expect some income from

your > father, or paternal relatives.. As for Venus.. if not a maha dasa, >

then surely an antara. Best wishes> > Visti> > ---> > Sri Jagannath Center:

http://.org> > Bhagavad Purana: http://www.srimadbhagavatam.org> >

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Rema Menon vedic astrology > Wednesday, February

05, 2003 9:51 PMRe: [vedic-> astrology] retrograde planet in exaltation

sign> > Hare Rama Krishna,> > Namaste Visti, > > > > My lagna is Gemini. > > I

will not have a venus dasa, Right now am in my> > Jupiter, next is shani.> > If

sani will not get debilitated, how else does the> > bad effect come?> > > >

Thanks, > > Rema> > > > > > --- Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote:> > > Hare

Rama Krsna> > > > > >> >

->

-------------> > > > > > Dear Rema,> > > Swee has a similar situation as she

has allready> > > mentioned, only her Shani is not retrogade.> > > > > > Yes it

can overcome its debilitation, but thats not> > > necessarily good. What is your

lagna? Venus Dasa> > > will give the results of Shani.> > > > > > Best wishes> >

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Wednesday, February 05, 2003 7:00 PM> > > [vedic astrology]

retrograde planet in> > > exaltation sign> > > > > > > > > Hare Rama Krishna,

> > > Namaste Visti,> > > > > > May I ask further on the same subject, a

malefic> > > like> > > shani when retrograde and exalted in Libra should> > >

be> > > considered debilitated. > > > > > > But what happens if the shani is

also in> > > parivarthan> > > with Venus. A 9/5 parivarthan.> > > Does it by

any chance again overcome this> > > debilitation?> > > > > > In navamsa

shani and venus are together in Taurus.> > > > > > Thanks, > > > humbly, >

> > Rema> > > > > > --- Visti Larsen <vishnu@l...> wrote:> > > > Vyam

Vyaasadevaaya Namah> > > > > > > >> > > > > >> >

->

-------------> > > > > > > > Dear Gili and Chandrashekhar,> > > > The

results become easier to understand when you> > > > keep in mind the

following:> > > > > > > > A Retrograde planet will give results only to> >

> take> > > > the results away again before the results have> > > been> > >

> fulfilled completely.> > > > > > > > Hence an exalted planet will wanto

give the> > > highest> > > > results of placement, however if it is also> > >

> retrogade, the results will never manifest fully> > > > like a bee who's

hesitant to taste the nectar of> > > a> > > > flower.> > > > > > > >

Hence the results become akin to debilitation.> > > If> > > > the planet is a

malefic, then a high level of> > > > spirituality/renunciation can be

expected,> > > espcially> > > > incase of Shani.> > > > > > > > Best

wishes> > > > Visti> > > > ---> > > > Sri Jagannath Center:

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Wednesday, February 05, 2003 3:05 PM> > > > Re:

[vedic astrology](for> > > Chandrashekhar)> > > > retrograde planet in

exaltation sign> > > > > > > > > > > > Dear Chandreshekhar,> > > >

I agree with you ... but it is hard for a> > > novice> > > > to determine

what is true > > > > when reading conflicting arguments by> > > respected>

> > > authors.> > > > Also my heart feels that Jupiter doesn't bring> > >

> anything unpleasant unless it > > > > is good for spiritual

development.> > > > (That last sentence confirms Prof. Jaya> > > Shekhar's>

> > > comment to me, on looking > > > > at my chart at the BAVA

conference, that I> > > will> > > > never be a good vedic > > > >

astrologer because I think with my heart :) )> > > > Love,> > > > Gili>

> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > you can't transcend what you haven't> >

> experienced> > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

>"Chandrashekhar" <boxdel>> > > > >> > > > >Dear Gili,> > >

> >I stll have not come accross any such> > > reference> > > > in any

ancient text. > > > > >Mantreshwar says in Phaldeepika that> > >

Retrograde> > > > planet gives good results > > > > >even if in Neecha

Rasi or Neecha Navamsha ,> > > if my> > > > memory serves me right.> > > >

>I cannot understand how a planet looses his> > > > Chesta bal by going to >

> > > >exaltation Rasi.> > > > >Chandrashekhar.> > > > > > > > > >

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