Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 Om Gurave Namah Dear Swee, Here the problem is totally different. It is purely at the physical level. Ketu mokshakaraka is very strong in the 12th house and is not going to let go easily, more so as it is the co-lord of lagna. The simple solution can be to let go of all material desires, to say goodbye to all spouses and marriages and realise that you have come alone and leave this world alone. But then this is the work of his Diksha Guru. When a person comes to me with a problem, I generally get into his shoes, and often into trouble on that account. Then I give them all the options, especially when they have been truthful to me, and even get into his battles (I have Mars in 7th house, and like Sri Rama, will have to fight battles for others like Sugreeva, although this will be of a different kind, and may Sri Ram guide me in this). The problem here is with Ketu in the 12th house - the 12th house Ketu indicates Ganesha is in deep meditation of Vishnu, and only Tulasi can break this tapasya and get him married. What will be the effect of breaking this tapasya? Ganesha is angered and curses Tulasi to lose her purity, which is fulfilled by Vishnu and subsequently Ganesha has two marriages. Thus Ketu in the 12th or 7th house, related to Jupiter (elephant headed Ketu indicates Ganesha) indicates that the person shall have two or more spouses, just like Ganesha had to marry because of the anger of Tulasi (note the tone in my earlier mail below about a woman in fire or passion, so also Tulasi was passionate about Ganesha). In his chart, Ketu is in the 12th house in Libra with Venus (Tulai, its dispositor) conjoining Jupiter in the ninth house of luck/fortune. His image and fortune will take a beating with this and the 12th house Ketu will bring about terrible losses due to spouse(s) and females. See how the nature of Venus has got modified due to the nodes position. The solution to this lies in worshipping Lakshmi-Narayana as Venus is with Jupiter in the 9th house. This is the root and the key to the problem of fortune, finances etc. Secondly, Ketu's (reather Ganesha) mood should be changed from his tapasya to one who is delighting in marriage with Riddhi & Siddhi. Unless this happens, marriages will not last, at least till 36 years of age (UL in Capricorn and saturn in 5th house). Thirdly Swee, do not distribute the Mahamantra like chocolates. It is too precious to be handed over indiscriminately. To date I have never given this to anyone, and for a simple reason - I am not qualified to do so. I need to be initiated into this first by a proper Diksha Guru for the Mukti Marga, which , to my estimate should happen in good time. Also if you give the maha-mantra and the person does not come out of his marriage and finance related problems (which he is unlikely to as the mantra is meant for Moksha and gati only), then he will lose faith in Krishna. He will start believeing that Bhagavan does not care for him. this is a terrible dis-service to Jagannath. If you cannot build faith, do not break faith. Mantras should be advised after learning the mantra shastra properly. There are different Vesha of Bhagavan and for his problem, the Lakshmi-Narayana Vesha has to be worshipped. Why don't you start making a list of the various vesha and the planetary combinations for advising people. This will be an interesting study. Please start this work and send the document to me. Add mantras, gemstones, fasting advises in different columns. This will be a very helpful work for everyone. Jupiter-Moon (Krishna's avatar Vesha as advised by Parasara), Jupiter-Sun (Rama avatar vesha) and so on..interesting work. As another example I am attaching the chart of a person (who has many grievances against me now-a-days and has even lodged a complainst against me). This is the story of a man on the verge of suicide, who comes for help to my door. You will notice Ketu in the seventh house. He had one secret wife in addition to his regular wife and had two sons from her. When his wife got to know of it, she threw up a tantrum and demanded that he leave the other secret wife. At that point, I had helped and supported him, and had also made it clear that I do not support either of his wives, but am supporting him due to the children. More so as the daughter was born exactly on the month when I had said would happen. She is like Lakshmi and brought him good fortune etc. Ashok and all the other sisya at Delhi were very disgusted with this decision of mine, as this was adharma. However, I was well aware that what I was doing is against dharma and that I would get severely punished by Jagannath for this, and this is the punishment I am getting now. Since I did everything in full knowledge, the punishment has to be very severe like that for a Brahmana. In fact Jagannath is having the last laugh as the very person who I had fought for and stood like a rock for when he was on the verge of complete defamation and ruin due to exposure, litigation etc, and would surely go to jail if his wife complained about the illegal marriage and children, is the one who has joined hands with the ones against me, rather is among their leaders!! So, I have to take my punishment for supporting adharma and for letting my heart rule over my head. Believe me there is a lot more you have to know about these incidents and one day I will pen everything down in a totally frank and honest exposition, but not now as the matter is still very hot and my vision is biased due to blood/family. This is an interesting case. JHD Chart of Vijay is attached. In Graha Yuddha, you should bear in mind the two famous battles, the terrible wars - one remembered as Ramayana between Rahu & Jupiter and the other as Mahabharata between Mars & Mercury. In the first Bhagavan Himself fought as Jupiter was involved and in the other, His favorite Sisya fought as Mercury is involved. Another interesting thing - was Arjuna Krishna's Sisya?? Some say no. Whay do you say? So, Swee you will see how the astrologer has to carefully decide when to give what mantra and for what purpose. Ultimately, the recitation etc will happen only as per his (MD's) karma and bhagya. I have a lot of faith and believe that if he keeps the fast and sincerely bows to lakshmi Narayana, the seemingly impossible will happen and he will see better days. I am confidant that his good times are just knocking at the door and am awaiting to see his child. In fact I agreed to do his chart because he is destined to have a child from the blessings of Lakshmi-Narayana who shall fill this world with the "Jaya Jagannatha" fragrance. See the JAYA yoga involving his fifth lord and seventh lord in 9th house. Jaya Jagannatha. At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha, I remain, Sanjay Rath Mail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, India Tel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; Personal Web: http://srath.com - Swee Chan vedic astrology Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:04 AM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Need translation of this Sanskrit slok, please--to Sanjay, Gaurang, Swee Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sanjayji, Thank you for the explanations. But won’t you say that chanting the name of the Lord will remove all samskaras and purifies the heart? I hope Mukund finds his divine peace and joy. Best regards, Swee swee http://www.brihaspati.net/ Sanjay Rath [daivagyna] Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:16 AM Vedic-Astrology (AT) (DOT) Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Need translation of this Sanskrit slok, please--to Sanjay, Gaurang, Swee OM Gurave Namah Dear Mukund Desai, It is surprising that you have requested the list to trnslate this mantra for you instead of asking me to attempt. In any case, first ry to understand the dual role of Ketu in any chart, especially when Ketu is placed in the 12th house. In simple words MARRIAGE IS A CURSE. Now, you have already seen how this has befallen your destiny, not once but more than that. So, when you come to me, I have to give results, and in this terrible Kali Yuga, i will not advise you to fall at the feet of your spouse or any other lady, but will teach you to fight strong. There is a nice saying "all's fair in love and war", and so, I gave you this mantra for ending war and bringing some peace at home. The house which would seem like a haunted house with the in-laws becoming out-laws needs to be first cleared of all demonesses and evils that possess your spouse(s)..not once but again and again. By throwing this away in this list you have shown that Ketu has again proved to be stronger in the 12th and its other role of 'kulasya unnatim' or continuity of lineage has been forgotten. Ketu indicates that a mistake shall be made and that is how the upadesa is lost. In fact the dhyana for the mantra is far more interesting and has something to do with marriage, sexuality etc. You can read this from mantra-mahodadhih as I am not going to teach you that. Perhaps it is a prayer to the delighted and happy Ganapati who has just got married (to help you also in the same manner)..to write (or rewrite) your destiny with some sweetness and the fragrance of love and affection; perhaps it is also a prayer to drive away the demoness(es) called Pisachi's which possess a woman in her periods so that you may not have to face their wrath...perhaps. hasti refers to the elephant headed Ganesha. The full mantra reads Om namo Ucchista Ganeshaaya hasti pisachi likhe swaaha. Pisacha, as used in the Veda refers to a class of demons that cause PASSION and ignis fatuus. They were classified along with the Asuras or those who control the actions AT NIGHT. Pisachi is a kind of SHE-DEVIL that has a great fondness for fighting and picking fights at the slightest pretext. Now, all these hints should tell you what the mantra aims at. Yes it has to do with the problem you are facing. While the word 'Likhe' is quite well known to all and sundry as meaning to scratch or write, what is of less knowledge is its meaning of 'Uniting with a female' or its meaning of coming together of heavenly bodies. Perhaps it a mantra to unite an elephant headed person who refuses to budge from his tapasya with a female whose anger and passion are impossible to control. In case you are not comfortable with the mantra, all you have to do is to tell me about it. In the meantime, as advised again and again, do keep the fasts and worship Lakshmi-Narayana sincerely. This is the best solution. I have given you all the options, and the choise of Karma has to be yours. At the holy feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha, I remain, Sanjay Rath Mail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, India Tel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; Personal Web: http://srath.com - monmuk111 <monmuk111 vedic astrology Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:55 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Need translation of this Sanskrit slok, please--to Sanjay, Gaurang, Swee Swee: This is a mantra that Sanjay gave me. Gaurang attempted to translate it and this is his version of the translation--the transalation does appear a little fallacious; however, I thank Gaurang for attempting and giving me some idea as to what it means. Swee, maybe you have a better translation. Maybe Sanjay himself can give me/us the translation. Let's hope Sanjay reads this. Thanks. Mukund vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote: > Dear M.Desai, > > {Om Take away, and sing, Pisachi (female demon or witch) while tearing (or > writing) with your hands, I offer myself to you!} snip > > {Sir: > > Thank you for taking the time to translate this. Now, I get it-- this is > supposed to be a tantrik mantra and the translation fits the > purpose. > > M.Desai} > > Offering yourself to a Pisachi to suit what purpose??????? OOOooooooh, I > think I'm going to faint :-(:-(:-(:-(:-(:-( > > Swee Attachment: (application/octet-stream) Deep, Vijay.jhd [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 17, 2003 Report Share Posted January 17, 2003 font-family:Verdana;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> yes"> Jaya Jagannatha mso-bidi-font-family:Arial;color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> font-family:Verdana">Dear Sanjayji, mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> font-family:Verdana;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> font-family:Verdana;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">I am deeply grateful you have found sometime to answer to my queries in light of the fact that you have not been up to par on your health. font-family:Verdana;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Could you please add further clarity as below: 12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> AUTOTEXTLIST \s "E-mail Signature" 12.0pt;color:blue;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> 12.0pt;font-family:Verdana'> 10.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana"> Om Gurave Namah "Courier New";color:black"> Dear Swee, Here the problem is totally different. It is purely at the physical level. Ketu mokshakaraka is very strong in the 12th house and is not going to let go easily, more so as it is the co-lord of lagna. The simple solution can be to let go of all material desires, to say goodbye to all spouses and marriages and realise that you have come alone and leave this world alone. But then this is the work of his Diksha Guru. When a person comes to me with a problem, I generally get into his shoes, and often into trouble on that account. Then I give them all the options, especially when they have been truthful to me, and even get into his battles (I have Mars in 7th house, and like Sri Rama, will have to fight battles for others like Sugreeva, although this will be of a different kind, and may Sri Ram guide me in this). The problem here is with Ketu in the 12th house - the 12th house Ketu indicates Ganesha is in deep meditation of Vishnu, and only Tulasi can break this tapasya and get him married. What will be the effect of breaking this tapasya? Ganesha is angered and curses Tulasi to lose her purity, which is fulfilled by Vishnu and subsequently Ganesha has two marriages. Thus Ketu in the 12th or 7th house, related to Jupiter (elephant headed Ketu indicates Ganesha) indicates that the person shall have two or more spouses, just like Ganesha had to marry because of the anger of Tulasi (note the tone in my earlier mail below about a woman in fire or passion, so also Tulasi was passionate about Ganesha). In his chart, Ketu is in the 12th house in Libra with Venus (Tulai, its dispositor) conjoining Jupiter in the ninth house of luck/fortune. His image and fortune will take a beating with this and the 12th house Ketu will bring about terrible losses due to spouse(s) and females. See how the nature of Venus has got modified due to the nodes position. The solution to this lies in worshipping Lakshmi-Narayana as Venus is with Jupiter in the 9th house. This is the root and the key to the problem of fortune, finances etc. "Courier New";mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";color:black"> Secondly, Ketu's (reather Ganesha) mood should be changed from his tapasya to one who is delighting in marriage with Riddhi & Siddhi. Unless this happens, marriages will not last, at least till 36 years of age (UL in Capricorn and saturn in 5th house). font-family:Verdana;mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New";mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> font-family:Verdana;mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New";mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">Swee: The brightness of Sudarshan chakra shall illuminate Siddhi and Riddhi (Ganesha’s two wives) and will bring the positive aspects of success (Riddhi) and achievement (Siddhi) to the person and wizen him to all the goodness he can find in one wife. font-family:Verdana;mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New";mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">If the ascendant lord is in a movable house, the easy cure is there. If it is in a fixed sign, then cure should come from installing the Sudarshan kavach. font-family:Verdana;mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New";mso-ansi-language: EN-GB">When the war was fought between all the (lesser) Gods eg Kartikeya, Ganesha etc and the Demons (easy cure with Hanuman kavach, or prayers to Hanuman, Kartikeya etc), Visnu used his Sudarshan cakra to destroy the mightiest of the demons, Hiranyaksa- ref; Padma Purana. mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";color:blue;mso-color-alt:windowtext; mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> Thirdly Swee, do not distribute the Mahamantra like chocolates. It is too precious to be handed over indiscriminately. To date I have never given this to anyone, and for a simple reason - I am not qualified to do so. color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> blue;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> Swee: No, on the contrary, Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu is known as maha-vadanyavatara, the most magnanimous incarnation, for HE does not consider the offences of the fallen souls. Thus to derive the full benefit, the chanting of maha-mantra is advised. But first, we have to take shelter from Sri Chaitanya Mahaprabhu by learning the Pancha-tattva maha-mantra, then chant the Hare Krishna maha-mantra- Srila Prabhupada, purport, Chaitanya- charitamrita 7.4 mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> I need to be initiated into this first by a proper Diksha Guru for the Mukti Marga, which , to my estimate should happen in good time. "Courier New";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> Your drig dasa in Pisces will enter from 8th August (using 360 degree solar year)…… I think from 7th August 2004 will see you on your way towards this path. I sincerely wish you the best and look forward to that day. Your mantra pada is in Virgo (whilst mine is in Gemini.) mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> Also if you give the maha-mantra and the person does not come out of his marriage and finance related problems (which he is unlikely to as the mantra is meant for Moksha and gati only), then he will lose faith in Krishna. He will start believeing that Bhagavan does not care for him. this is a terrible dis-service to Jagannath. If you cannot build faith, do not break faith. Mantras should be advised after learning the mantra shastra properly. "Courier New";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> However, I reiterate (as said in Hyderabad) that I do not hand out mantras indiscriminately for the simple reason that we have to assess the capabilities of the person to look after the mantra that has been given to him. By giving him/her a mantra for their material purpose, we take on their karma. (This is what my Guruji in Vrindavan taught me, so I am very careful about dishing them out like the lovely Lindt chocolates Sarajit gave and we devoured on the bus journey to Tirupati mso-ascii-font-family:"Trebuchet MS";mso-hansi-font-family:"Trebuchet MS"; color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-char-type:symbol;mso-symbol-font-family: Wingdings">J). mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> ONLY, if the need arises, then it must be done privately and not over a mailing list). mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> P/s (Charlie and Guruji says to thank you very much for the Mahaprasad!) mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> There are different Vesha of Bhagavan and for his problem, the Lakshmi-Narayana Vesha has to be worshipped. Why don't you start making a list of the various vesha and the planetary combinations for advising people. This will be an interesting study. Please start this work and send the document to me. Add mantras, gemstones, fasting advises in different columns. This will be a very helpful work for everyone. Jupiter-Moon (Krishna's avatar Vesha as advised by Parasara), Jupiter-Sun (Rama avatar vesha) and so on..interesting work. color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> blue;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> Swee: Oh, goodie! I hope you received my mail asking you if I can connect the avataras to some of the reasoning as to why such a gemstone can be suggested. The shapes etc., I do not concur with the advice so far given. I will need to make references to those that make sense e.g., Red Coral, should be in its natural shape and will give the reasoning from it- Ref; Garuda Purana I am including the days for fasting etc as well and marking them out as I go along, just these past week. How in tune! "Trebuchet MS";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB;mso-char-type:symbol; mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings"> Wingdings">J I will take a few weeks’ leave and do just that. (After Chinese New Year "Trebuchet MS";mso-hansi-font-family:"Trebuchet MS";color:blue;mso-ansi-language: EN-GB;mso-char-type:symbol;mso-symbol-font-family:Wingdings">JJJJJ) So it will not be a document, but I will include this in my book for SJC. 9 months since, and I have yet to get colour plates for some of the gemstones. As for Lakshmi-Narayan Vesha, I need a couple more days (already found some) to research this and will send it in a separate document for you. "Courier New";color:black"> As another example I am attaching the chart of a person (who has many grievances against me now-a-days and has even lodged a complainst against me). This is the story of a man on the verge of suicide, who comes for help to my door. You will notice Ketu in the seventh house. He had one secret wife in addition to his regular wife and had two sons from her. When his wife got to know of it, she threw up a tantrum and demanded that he leave the other secret wife. At that point, I had helped and supported him, and had also made it clear that I do not support either of his wives, but am supporting him due to the children. More so as the daughter was born exactly on the month when I had said would happen. She is like Lakshmi and brought him good fortune etc. Ashok and all the other sisya at Delhi were very disgusted with this decision of mine, as this was adharma. However, I was well aware that what I was doing is against dharma and that I would get severely punished by Jagannath for this, and this is the punishment I am getting now. Since I did everything in full knowledge, the punishment has to be very severe like that for a Brahmana. In fact Jagannath is having the last laugh as the very person who I had fought for and stood like a rock for when he was on the verge of complete defamation and ruin due to exposure, litigation etc, and would surely go to jail if his wife complained about the illegal marriage and children, is the one who has joined hands with the ones against me, rather is among their leaders!! So, I have to take my punishment for supporting adharma and for letting my heart rule over my head. Believe me there is a lot more you have to know about these incidents and one day I will pen everything down in a totally frank and honest exposition, but not now as the matter is still very hot and my vision is biased due to blood/family. This is an interesting case. JHD Chart of Vijay is attached. In Graha Yuddha, you should bear in mind the two famous battles, the terrible wars - one remembered as Ramayana between Rahu & Jupiter and the other as Mahabharata between Mars & Mercury. In the first Bhagavan Himself fought as Jupiter was involved and in the other, His favorite Sisya fought as Mercury is involved. Another interesting thing - was Arjuna Krishna's Sisya?? Some say no. Whay do you say? line-break"> "Courier New";mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";color:blue;mso-color-alt:windowtext; mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> font-family:Verdana;mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New"">Swee: I say yes; Arjuna’s blind trust mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New"; mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">on Krishna 11.0pt;mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;mso-fareast-font-family: "Courier New"">reminds me of Pra mso-bidi-font-size:12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New"; mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">h 12.0pt;font-family:Verdana;mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New"">lada mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New";mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> and Narasimha Deva font-family:Verdana;mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New"">. 12.0pt;mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New";mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New"; color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";color:black"> So, Swee you will see how the astrologer has to carefully decide when to give what mantra and for what purpose. Ultimately, the recitation etc will happen only as per his (MD's) karma and bhagya. I have a lot of faith and believe that if he keeps the fast and sincerely bows to Lakshmi-Narayana, the seemingly impossible will happen and he will see better days. I am confidant that his good times are just knocking at the door and am awaiting to see his child. In fact I agreed to do his chart because he is destined to have a child from the blessings of Lakshmi-Narayana who shall fill this world with the "Jaya Jagannatha" fragrance. See the JAYA yoga involving his fifth lord and seventh lord in 9th house. Jaya Jagannatha. "Courier New";mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";color:blue;mso-ansi-language: EN-GB"> Swee: Yes, but I do not agree that lesser manifestations like Pisachas should be invoked. Ever…..see, what karma you’ve taken on? mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Mukund must first do the Vrata, offer dakshina accordingly and a yagna before he can request for any more help. mso-bidi-font-family:"Courier New";color:blue;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">(Mukund Desai I hope you read this). color:blue;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> font-family:Verdana;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> font-family:Verdana;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Best regards, font-family:Verdana;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">Swee mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">swee (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net 12.0pt;color:blue;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> 12.0pt;color:blue;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> mso-ansi-language:EN-GB">http://www.brihaspati.net/ 12.0pt;color:blue;mso-color-alt:windowtext;mso-ansi-language:EN-GB"> font-family:Verdana;mso-fareast-font-family:"Courier New""> At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha, I remain, Sanjay Rath Mail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, India Tel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; Personal Web: "Courier New";color:blue"> http://srath.com ----- Original Message ----- "Courier New";color:blue"> Swee Chan To: vedic astrology Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:04 AM RE: [vedic astrology] Re: Need translation of this Sanskrit slok, please--to Sanjay, Gaurang, Swee Jaya Jagannatha Dear Sanjayji, Thank you for the explanations. But won’t you say that chanting the name of the Lord will remove all samskaras and purifies the heart? I hope Mukund finds his divine peace and joy. Best regards, Swee swee (AT) brihaspati (DOT) net http://www.brihaspati.net/ -----Original Message----- "Courier New";color:blue"> Sanjay Rath [daivagyna (AT) sify (DOT) com] Wednesday, January 15, 2003 4:16 AM To: Vedic-Astrology (AT) (DOT) Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Need translation of this Sanskrit slok, please--to Sanjay, Gaurang, Swee OM Gurave Namah Dear Mukund Desai, "Courier New";color:blue"> It is surprising that you have requested the list to trnslate this mantra for you instead of asking me to attempt. In any case, first ry to understand the dual role of Ketu in any chart, especially when Ketu is placed in the 12th house. In simple words MARRIAGE IS A CURSE. Now, you have already seen how this has befallen your destiny, not once but more than that. So, when you come to me, I have to give results, and in this terrible Kali Yuga, i will not advise you to fall at the feet of your spouse or any other lady, but will teach you to fight strong. There is a nice saying "all's fair in love and war", and so, I gave you this mantra for ending war and bringing some peace at home. The house which would seem like a haunted house with the in-laws becoming out-laws needs to be first cleared of all demonesses and evils that possess your spouse(s)..not once but again and again. By throwing this away in this list you have shown that Ketu has again proved to be stronger in the 12th and its other role of 'kulasya unnatim' or continuity of lineage has been forgotten. Ketu indicates that a mistake shall be made and that is how the upadesa is lost. "Courier New";color:blue"> In fact the dhyana for the mantra is far more interesting and has something to do with marriage, sexuality etc. You can read this from mantra-mahodadhih as I am not going to teach you that. Perhaps it is a prayer to the delighted and happy Ganapati who has just got married (to help you also in the same manner)..to write (or rewrite) your destiny with some sweetness and the fragrance of love and affection; perhaps it is also a prayer to drive away the demoness(es) called Pisachi's which possess a woman in her periods so that you may not have to face their wrath...perhaps. hasti refers to the elephant headed Ganesha. The full mantra reads Om namo Ucchista Ganeshaaya hasti pisachi likhe swaaha. Pisacha, as used in the Veda refers to a class of demons that cause PASSION and ignis fatuus. They were classified along with the Asuras or those who control the actions AT NIGHT. Pisachi is a kind of SHE-DEVIL that has a great fondness for fighting and picking fights at the slightest pretext. Now, all these hints should tell you what the mantra aims at. Yes it has to do with the problem you are facing. While the word 'Likhe' is quite well known to all and sundry as meaning to scratch or write, what is of less knowledge is its meaning of 'Uniting with a female' or its meaning of coming together of heavenly bodies. Perhaps it a mantra to unite an elephant headed person who refuses to budge from his tapasya with a female whose anger and passion are impossible to control. In case you are not comfortable with the mantra, all you have to do is to tell me about it. In the meantime, as advised again and again, do keep the fasts and worship Lakshmi-Narayana sincerely. This is the best solution. I have given you all the options, and the choise of Karma has to be yours. At the holy feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha, I remain, Sanjay Rath Mail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, India Tel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; Personal Web: "Courier New";color:blue"> http://srath.com ----- Original Message ----- "Courier New";color:blue"> monmuk111 <monmuk111 > To: vedic astrology Tuesday, January 14, 2003 9:55 PM Subject: [vedic astrology] Re: Need translation of this Sanskrit slok, please--to Sanjay, Gaurang, Swee Swee: This is a mantra that Sanjay gave me. Gaurang attempted to translate it and this is his version of the translation--the transalation does appear a little fallacious; however, I thank Gaurang for attempting and giving me some idea as to what it means. Swee, maybe you have a better translation. Maybe Sanjay himself can give me/us the translation. Let's hope Sanjay reads this. Thanks. Mukund --- In vedic astrology, "Swee Chan" <swee@c...> wrote: > Dear M.Desai, "Courier New";color:blue"> > > {Om Take away, and sing, Pisachi (female demon or witch) while tearing (or > writing) with your hands, I offer myself to you!} snip > > {Sir: > > Thank you for taking the time to translate this. Now, I get it-- this is > supposed to be a tantrik mantra and the translation fits the > purpose. > > M.Desai} > > Offering yourself to a Pisachi to suit what purpose??????? OOOooooooh, I > think I'm going to faint :-(:-(:-(:-(:-(:-( > > Swee Attachment: (image/gif) image001.gif [not stored] Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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