Deeper questions on AKand soul

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Dear Mr Sundeep,

 

Thanks for posting those queries, from the last few days I have been thinking of

the same, almost 80% of the questions that you have put forward. I await

anxiously some light from the Gurus on this.

 

A very important question that bogs my mind is does" the soul have any purpose"

or "is the purpose of the soul only to unite back with the source", is that the

only desire of the soul.

 

Is the souls purpose different in different lifetimes or is their

departmentalisation here - the core purpose to unite back with GOd and external

purpose whatever the soul decides/is given in this lifetime.

 

 

 

Maybe I have deviated from the first question that i had asked about AK, but i

feel their is distinct relation here with AK and a better understanding of all

these would make my basics i.e of a student much stronger.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Best

 

Sunil John

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Clear Day

Om Gurave Namah

Dear Sunil:

 

I have been following some of your posts and discussions on the Atmakaraka.

Interesting no doubt. Have you read the detailed article on AK in the web

and in the lessons section? I believe this was also published by the ICAS,

Chandigarh. Statements like AK in kendra is good and dusthana is not good

are very vague to say the least. I will summarise my points here: -

 

1. Someone has stated that if the Atmakaraka has nothing to do with the

lagna, the native is not spiritual. Now in the chart of Bhagavan Sri

Krishna, the Atmakaraka has nothing to do with the Lagna as far as the rasi

chart is concerned. So, can we infer that Bhagavan Sri Krishna was not

spiritual!!! (Taurus Lagna with Venus in 3rd house and AK Sun in 4th house

in Leo]. Look at the chart of Srila Prabhupada. The Atmakaraka Rahu is in a

dusthana in the third house and caused a major spiritual shift due to a

terrible lesson pertaining to marriage and spouse (Rahu is in Upapada). Can

we infer that Srila Prabhupada was not spiritual simply because AK is in a

dusthana or some rule like application of 'parakrama' is there when in fact,

he was a sanyasi! The crux of a lesson in jyotish lies in its application.

So, it is evident that what has been told to you about the AK in different

houses is wrong.

 

2. Sometime back we had posted a query in various lists for astrologers to

check whether they have the 11th house/lord connected in some manner with

the AK. The best of astrologers confirmed that this was true and were

shocked as to how we could have come out with such an inference. Even K N

Rao who had criticised this initially was shocked to note this rule working

in his own chart! So, the point is that the learning should be carefully

done after application of wha you have been told. To my knowledge, other

than this, we have never written about AK in houses. The most deailed lesson

on AK as different planets and AK in different houses in the navamsa has

been given out and can be got. Please read that very carefully and digest

the knowledge therein before proceeding further in this discussion.

Narasimha did some calculations and gave some percentages, but the point is

that rule this did work.

 

3. The questions you ask about the AK require a very deep understanding of

the purpose of birth, nature of the jeevatma, the meaning of Yoga. At

present, this list has just about started to discuss Yoga. Guru Robert Koch

is coming out with an excellent work on Drig dasa and spirituality. This

will be comprehensive and very detailed. Please wait for that book and in

the meantime, do read all the material we have published on the AK. In case

that lesson is not in the web pages, please tell Jyoti/Sarbani.

 

At the feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha,

I remain,

Sanjay Rath

Mail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, India

Tel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages: http://.org; Personal Web:

http://srath.com

-

Sunil John

vedic astrology

Thursday, January 16, 2003 12:33 PM

[vedic astrology] Deeper questions on AKand soul

 

 

 

Dear Mr Sundeep,

 

Thanks for posting those queries, from the last few days I have been

thinking of the same, almost 80% of the questions that you have put forward.

I await anxiously some light from the Gurus on this.

 

A very important question that bogs my mind is does" the soul have any

purpose" or "is the purpose of the soul only to unite back with the source",

is that the only desire of the soul.

 

Is the souls purpose different in different lifetimes or is their

departmentalisation here - the core purpose to unite back with GOd and

external purpose whatever the soul decides/is given in this lifetime.

 

 

 

Maybe I have deviated from the first question that i had asked about AK, but

i feel their is distinct relation here with AK and a better understanding of

all these would make my basics i.e of a student much stronger.

 

Thanks in advance

 

Best

 

Sunil John

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sanjay ji,

In my chart AK Chandra is in Makara Lagna and 11th lord Kuja is in digbala in

10th aspecting Chandra.I think this is a good example for Sunil to learn.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

Sanjay Rath <daivagyna (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote:

Clear DayOm Gurave NamahDear Sunil:I have been following some of your posts and

discussions on the Atmakaraka.Interesting no doubt. Have you read the detailed

article on AK in the weband in the lessons section? I believe this was also

published by the ICAS,Chandigarh. Statements like AK in kendra is good and

dusthana is not goodare very vague to say the least. I will summarise my points

here: -1. Someone has stated that if the Atmakaraka has nothing to do with

thelagna, the native is not spiritual. Now in the chart of Bhagavan SriKrishna,

the Atmakaraka has nothing to do with the Lagna as far as the rasichart is

concerned. So, can we infer that Bhagavan Sri Krishna was notspiritual!!!

(Taurus Lagna with Venus in 3rd house and AK Sun in 4th housein Leo]. Look at

the chart of Srila Prabhupada. The Atmakaraka Rahu is in adusthana in the third

house and caused a major spiritual shift due to aterrible lesson pertaining to

marriage and spouse (Rahu is in Upapada). Canwe infer that Srila Prabhupada was

not spiritual simply because AK is in adusthana or some rule like application of

'parakrama' is there when in fact,he was a sanyasi! The crux of a lesson in

jyotish lies in its application.So, it is evident that what has been told to

you about the AK in differenthouses is wrong.2. Sometime back we had posted a

query in various lists for astrologers tocheck whether they have the 11th

house/lord connected in some manner withthe AK. The best of astrologers

confirmed that this was true and wereshocked as to how we could have come out

with such an inference. Even K NRao who had criticised this initially was

shocked to note this rule workingin his own chart! So, the point is that the

learning should be carefullydone after application of wha you have been told.

To my knowledge, otherthan this, we have never written about AK in houses. The

most deailed lessonon AK as different planets and AK in different houses in the

navamsa hasbeen given out and can be got. Please read that very carefully and

digestthe knowledge therein before proceeding further in this

discussion.Narasimha did some calculations and gave some percentages, but the

point isthat rule this did work.3. The questions you ask about the AK require a

very deep understanding ofthe purpose of birth, nature of the jeevatma, the

meaning of Yoga. Atpresent, this list has just about started to discuss Yoga.

Guru Robert Kochis coming out with an excellent work on Drig dasa and

spirituality. Thiswill be comprehensive and very detailed. Please wait for that

book and inthe meantime, do read all the material we have published on the AK.

In casethat lesson is not in the web pages, please tell Jyoti/Sarbani.At the

feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha,I remain,Sanjay RathMail: 71 Vasant Apartments,

Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, IndiaTel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages:

http://.org; Personal Web:http://srath.com----- Original Message

-----Sunil Johnvedic astrologySent: Thursday, January

16, 2003 12:33 PM[vedic astrology] Deeper questions on AKand soulDear

Mr Sundeep,Thanks for posting those queries, from the last few days I have

beenthinking of the same, almost 80% of the questions that you have put

forward.I await anxiously some light from the Gurus on this.A very important

question that bogs my mind is does" the soul have anypurpose" or "is the

purpose of the soul only to unite back with the source",is that the only desire

of the soul.Is the souls purpose different in different lifetimes or is

theirdepartmentalisation here - the core purpose to unite back with GOd

andexternal purpose whatever the soul decides/is given in this lifetime.Maybe I

have deviated from the first question that i had asked about AK, buti feel their

is distinct relation here with AK and a better understanding ofall these would

make my basics i.e of a student much stronger.Thanks in advanceBestSunil

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Om Gurave NamahDear Ramdas Rao,

The aspect of Mars on the AK is but a graha dristi indicating a desire to learn

jyotish. The real yoga existing in your chart is the very aspect of the

Atmakaraka chandra on the 11th house i.e. Moon as AK in Makara lagna is

aspecting the 11th house Vrischika by Rasi dristi. You will not only learn but

will believe this to be a path to God, being a better human being etc. Yes,

this will also make you very good in the subject. At the feet of Guru Pandita

Kasinatha,I remain,Sanjay RathMail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1,

New Delhi 110091, IndiaTel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages:

http://.org; Personal Web: http://srath.com

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Ramadas Rao

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Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:01 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Deeper questions on AKand soul

OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAH Namaste Sanjay ji, In my chart AK Chandra is in Makara

Lagna and 11th lord Kuja is in digbala in 10th aspecting Chandra.I think this

is a good example for Sunil to learn. With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

[Guest guest]

Namaste Sanjay ji,

Thank you for your comments on my AK.

Nowadays after Guru came to Kataka Rasi,I feel immensely joy and sometimes I am

dancing with joy also.Few days before I had dreamt of of blue sky and planets

Guru and Shukra also.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

Sanjay Rath <daivagyna (AT) sify (DOT) com> wrote:

 

Om Gurave NamahDear Ramdas Rao,

The aspect of Mars on the AK is but a graha dristi indicating a desire to learn

jyotish. The real yoga existing in your chart is the very aspect of the

Atmakaraka chandra on the 11th house i.e. Moon as AK in Makara lagna is

aspecting the 11th house Vrischika by Rasi dristi. You will not only learn but

will believe this to be a path to God, being a better human being etc. Yes,

this will also make you very good in the subject. At the feet of Guru Pandita

Kasinatha,I remain,Sanjay RathMail: 71 Vasant Apartments, Mayur Vihar Phase-1,

New Delhi 110091, IndiaTel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages:

http://.org; Personal Web: http://srath.com

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Saturday, January 18, 2003 3:01 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Deeper questions on AKand soul

OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAH Namaste Sanjay ji, In my chart AK Chandra is in Makara

Lagna and 11th lord Kuja is in digbala in 10th aspecting Chandra.I think this

is a good example for Sunil to learn. With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

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Respected Sanjayji,

 

My AK - Moon is in 2nd Lagna house and 11th Navamsa House. 11th Lagna house

ruler is Mercury which is in Parivartan with Moon (Mercury in 12th and Moon in

2nd). Is that a connection that could lead me acquire good knowledge of

astrology?

 

DOB: 31st July 49

TOB: 09:04 AM

Place: Baroda/Vadodara, Gujarat, India

 

I am a beginner who got interested in learning astrology only a few months back.

I must mention that lot of knowledgeable members here are very kind and helpful.

 

 

Best Regards

Ramesh

 

 

 

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Sanjay Rath

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Friday, January 17, 2003 7:48 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Deeper questions on AKand soul

Clear DayOm Gurave NamahDear Sunil:I have been following some of your posts and

discussions on the Atmakaraka.Interesting no doubt. Have you read the detailed

article on AK in the weband in the lessons section? I believe this was also

published by the ICAS,Chandigarh. Statements like AK in kendra is good and

dusthana is not goodare very vague to say the least. I will summarise my points

here: -1. Someone has stated that if the Atmakaraka has nothing to do with

thelagna, the native is not spiritual. Now in the chart of Bhagavan SriKrishna,

the Atmakaraka has nothing to do with the Lagna as far as the rasichart is

concerned. So, can we infer that Bhagavan Sri Krishna was notspiritual!!!

(Taurus Lagna with Venus in 3rd house and AK Sun in 4th housein Leo]. Look at

the chart of Srila Prabhupada. The Atmakaraka Rahu is in adusthana in the third

house and caused a major spiritual shift due to aterrible lesson pertaining to

marriage and spouse (Rahu is in Upapada). Canwe infer that Srila Prabhupada was

not spiritual simply because AK is in adusthana or some rule like application of

'parakrama' is there when in fact,he was a sanyasi! The crux of a lesson in

jyotish lies in its application.So, it is evident that what has been told to

you about the AK in differenthouses is wrong.2. Sometime back we had posted a

query in various lists for astrologers tocheck whether they have the 11th

house/lord connected in some manner withthe AK. The best of astrologers

confirmed that this was true and wereshocked as to how we could have come out

with such an inference. Even K NRao who had criticised this initially was

shocked to note this rule workingin his own chart! So, the point is that the

learning should be carefullydone after application of wha you have been told.

To my knowledge, otherthan this, we have never written about AK in houses. The

most deailed lessonon AK as different planets and AK in different houses in the

navamsa hasbeen given out and can be got. Please read that very carefully and

digestthe knowledge therein before proceeding further in this

discussion.Narasimha did some calculations and gave some percentages, but the

point isthat rule this did work.3. The questions you ask about the AK require a

very deep understanding ofthe purpose of birth, nature of the jeevatma, the

meaning of Yoga. Atpresent, this list has just about started to discuss Yoga.

Guru Robert Kochis coming out with an excellent work on Drig dasa and

spirituality. Thiswill be comprehensive and very detailed. Please wait for that

book and inthe meantime, do read all the material we have published on the AK.

In casethat lesson is not in the web pages, please tell Jyoti/Sarbani.At the

feet of Guru Pandita Kasinatha,I remain,Sanjay RathMail: 71 Vasant Apartments,

Mayur Vihar Phase-1, New Delhi 110091, IndiaTel: +91-11-2713201; SJC Web pages:

http://.org; Personal Web:http://srath.com----- Original Message

-----Sunil Johnvedic astrologySent: Thursday, January

16, 2003 12:33 PM[vedic astrology] Deeper questions on AKand soulDear

Mr Sundeep,Thanks for posting those queries, from the last few days I have

beenthinking of the same, almost 80% of the questions that you have put

forward.I await anxiously some light from the Gurus on this.A very important

question that bogs my mind is does" the soul have anypurpose" or "is the

purpose of the soul only to unite back with the source",is that the only desire

of the soul.Is the souls purpose different in different lifetimes or is

theirdepartmentalisation here - the core purpose to unite back with GOd

andexternal purpose whatever the soul decides/is given in this lifetime.Maybe I

have deviated from the first question that i had asked about AK, buti feel their

is distinct relation here with AK and a better understanding ofall these would

make my basics i.e of a student much stronger.Thanks in advanceBestSunil

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