Guest guest Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 If anyone on our this list can throw light on the birth rectification aspect of KP then I will be very grateful to him.Or at least provide the meanings of lagas/houses cusps or the technique of analysis. Regards M.Imran prashant narang <prashantnarang > wrote: best is kp....u can find upto seconds prashant Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 7, 2003 Report Share Posted January 7, 2003 Dear Imran The KP method of Birth rectification is based on the RULING PLANETs: The Day Lord,The SignLord of Moon,The Star Lord of Moon, the Sign Lord of the Ascendent, and star Lord of the Ascendent. The SignLord,StarLord,and Sublord of the Ascendent of the Native, should be amongst the Ruling Planets at the time of the querry. The Birth is rectified on this basis. THIS RECTIFIED TIME, SHOULD BE CHECKED AGAINST THE MAJOR EVENTS OF THE NATIVE. One way of check is that the SUB-LORD of the Ascendent, usually reflects the Nature of the Nativee. MOON sub will mean a person whose decisions are subject to change: Mars- short tempeered. Merc- studious and so on good luck Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Many thanks for this valuable aid of learning, this pretends magical and I will try it. I have read in an article (on net) that nakshatra sub lord has more influence than nakshatra lord, as far as the results of dasa fructification is concerned, whereas the nakshatra lord only reveals hidden aspect of event/nature. And you also explained that the ascendant's sub lord shows the nature of native. But does it vary chart to chart or fix? I mean all the persons born under Jupiter as sub lord of ascendant could not have same nature, it depends on the placement/sign/aspect of Jupiter in the chart. (am I guessing right or not? please explain) You have told that "Ruling Planets" (RP) must be aligned with sign, star and star sub lords of rising ascendant at the time query/rectification. Here all RP must be aligned or mjorty of the RP must be identical. May you please eloborate the applied meanings of sub-lord (of ascendant and the Moon) on any example so that we can understand clearly. More in KP each cusp of the house is also given with degrees, navamsha, nakshatra lord and sub lord. Here how can one delineat all this at a time. Waiting for respose. Warm Regards, M.Imran sridhar k <kopparsa > wrote: Dear ImranThe KP method of Birth rectification is based on the RULING PLANETs: The DayLord,The SignLord of Moon,The Star Lord of Moon, the Sign Lord of theAscendent, and star Lord of the Ascendent.The SignLord,StarLord,and Sublord of the Ascendent of the Native, should beamongst the Ruling Planets at the time of the querry. The Birth is rectified onthis basis. THIS RECTIFIED TIME, SHOULD BE CHECKED AGAINST THE MAJOR EVENTS OFTHE NATIVE. One way of check is that the SUB-LORD of the Ascendent, usuallyreflects the Nature of the Nativee. MOON sub will mean a person whose decisionsare subject to change: Mars- short tempeered. Merc- studious and so ongood luck Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.http://mailplus.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do you ? Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Thanks alot, you wrote something on my request. But for books, I think I will have to wait for more as neither 'Manorama', 'Amazon' nor 'Astroamerica' deliver for Pakistan!!! Here no book, no teacher, no institution.Only web-sites and email of this group is the my learning material. God may bless you all. Regards Imran prashant narang <prashantnarang > wrote: Dear imran, For kp u must have a ‘249-sub lord’ table, As u know about nakshtra lord, there r sub lords too. . What r sub lords? Divide each nakshatra into 9unequal parts for each planet(based on their ratio of vimshottari). 27 X 9 = 243. but nakshtras don’t always end with the rasis. They may b continued to the next rasi. So that part of sub also may b extended to next rasi. That’s how we get 249. when u will see the table u ‘ll understand clearly. I couldn’t find the table on the net, if u want.. give me ur address …I’ll mail it 2 u . Birth rectification: When u sit 4 doing this rectification, note down the Asc(at that time) : rasi lord –nak lord- sub lord Moon (at that time) : rasi lord –nak lord –sub lord Day lord. These 9 planets r called ruling planets…. .ra-ke automatically comes in if their rasi lords r present. …..for ex. If venus is there , rahu should also b taken as r.p., b’coz now a days it is in the sign of venus. The idea is that these r.p.’s represent ur birth time ruling planets. So, these should b there at the time of ur birth time too. experts go up 2 sub- sub lord , & find the birth time. I did one chart under the guidance of a guru… all the birth time rp’s were there in current time rp set….so, we changed only the sub-sub lord. Thus , recorded birth time got shifted by 2 min and 35 seconds. There r some tricks too. birth time asc rp may match with our current moon rp Then, rectified birth time must b verified thru different methods There is book named rp-kp, must be available thru mr. Shiv chadha on the net (manorama occult publications), that’s for beginners of kp. U can predict exact time of arrival of people , trains , flights, no. of sticks in a matchbox. Then there is kp set of 6 readers for predictive part . .. ..It is difficult to find an expert of kp who teaches well without charging too much . but if mr. Krishna murti can do it himself , why not us? Hope this helps. prashant Muhammad Imran <astroimran > wrote: Dear Prashant, Yes Krishanamurti Paddhati is a unique and logical approach, and can be used as an effective tool of birth rectification. But unfortunately I have not any literature, which deal with nakshatra lords, subs and sub-sub meanings in detail etc. (I searched KP 'six readers' here but did not find yet). Although there is a popular e-group covers nadi joytish and KP system. hanskpvedic/ ( but their archive is devoid of KP predictive essentials. If anyone on our this list can throw light on the birth rectification aspect of KP then I will be very grateful to him.Or at least provide the meanings of lagas/houses cusps or the technique of analysis. Regards M.Imran prashant narang <prashantnarang > wrote: best is kp....u can find upto seconds prashant Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now News - Today's headlines Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Dear Imran, Manorama delivers to Pakistan, if necessary through a third country in Europe. Best Wishes Shiv Chadha www.vedicweb.com/Manorama.htm - Muhammad Imran prashant narang Cc: vedic astrology Wednesday, January 08, 2003 6:06 PM [vedic astrology] Re: Birth Rectification and KP Dear Prashant, Thanks alot, you wrote something on my request. But for books, I think I will have to wait for more as neither 'Manorama', 'Amazon' nor 'Astroamerica' deliver for Pakistan!!! Here no book, no teacher, no institution.Only web-sites and email of this group is the my learning material. God may bless you all. Regards Imran prashant narang <prashantnarang > wrote: Dear imran, For kp u must have a ‘249-sub lord’ table, As u know about nakshtra lord, there r sub lords too. . What r sub lords? Divide each nakshatra into 9unequal parts for each planet(based on their ratio of vimshottari). 27 X 9 = 243. but nakshtras don’t always end with the rasis. They may b continued to the next rasi. So that part of sub also may b extended to next rasi. That’s how we get 249. when u will see the table u ‘ll understand clearly. I couldn’t find the table on the net, if u want.. give me ur address …I’ll mail it 2 u . Birth rectification: When u sit 4 doing this rectification, note down the Asc(at that time) : rasi lord –nak lord- sub lord Moon (at that time) : rasi lord –nak lord –sub lord Day lord. These 9 planets r called ruling planets…. .ra-ke automatically comes in if their rasi lords r present. …..for ex. If venus is there , rahu should also b taken as r.p., b’coz now a days it is in the sign of venus. The idea is that these r.p.’s represent ur birth time ruling planets. So, these should b there at the time of ur birth time too. experts go up 2 sub- sub lord , & find the birth time. I did one chart under the guidance of a guru… all the birth time rp’s were there in current time rp set….so, we changed only the sub-sub lord. Thus , recorded birth time got shifted by 2 min and 35 seconds. There r some tricks too. birth time asc rp may match with our current moon rp Then, rectified birth time must b verified thru different methods There is book named rp-kp, must be available thru mr. Shiv chadha on the net (manorama occult publications), that’s for beginners of kp. U can predict exact time of arrival of people , trains , flights, no. of sticks in a matchbox. Then there is kp set of 6 readers for predictive part . .. ..It is difficult to find an expert of kp who teaches well without charging too much . but if mr. Krishna murti can do it himself , why not us? Hope this helps. prashant Muhammad Imran <astroimran > wrote: Dear Prashant, Yes Krishanamurti Paddhati is a unique and logical approach, and can be used as an effective tool of birth rectification. But unfortunately I have not any literature, which deal with nakshatra lords, subs and sub-sub meanings in detail etc. (I searched KP 'six readers' here but did not find yet). Although there is a popular e-group covers nadi joytish and KP system. hanskpvedic/ ( but their archive is devoid of KP predictive essentials. If anyone on our this list can throw light on the birth rectification aspect of KP then I will be very grateful to him.Or at least provide the meanings of lagas/houses cusps or the technique of analysis. Regards M.Imran prashant narang <prashantnarang > wrote: best is kp....u can find upto seconds prashant Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now News - Today's headlines Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 8, 2003 Report Share Posted January 8, 2003 Dear Imran All persons whose ascendent Sub Lord is JUP will exibit, the qualities of Jupiter.. They are considerate, they are believers in Justice,God, and tend to be relegious . These are general Trends. The Ascendent of the Native should show the 3 lords (sign,Star,Sub) in the ruling planets. Again one has to check with reference to the Actual Major events in Life. Are you a student of KP? good luck Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now. http://mailplus. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest guest Posted January 9, 2003 Report Share Posted January 9, 2003 I was told that, symmetry of sub-lord may not necessarily produce similar results, as it may be influenced by other factors spcially the state and strength of said sub-lord in chart. For example; a man having Jupiter as sub-lord may be a student of religous studies, or university professor, or judge, or an astrologer, or official advisor, or member of missionary, or a pandit/canon etc etc. I means the different Jovian characteristics may not combine at a time in every person having Jupiter as sub lord, viz; hope, trust in Supereme being, candidness, love for truth and wisdom, acting upon law etc. I too have Jupiter as sub-lord beside navamsha lord of lagna, but I donot practice pray(namaz) in mosque five time a day, instead I have a deep interest in philosophy of religion and occult subjects. Different persons have different colour and shape of planetary rays in their 'auras' that results in inumerable sort of human beings. But obviously 'values' and 'essence' can not change, though system, form and style vary as the "time and space" change. For example, Love is a value or say universal truth, the form and feature of making love changes time by time (due to Maya), but the real meaning remains unchangeable, beyond time and space. The above one is my personal observation, it might be possible that in KP the rules differ what I think. By the way, I am not student of KP, but trying to take it in. Because some of its priciples appealed me very much. Warm Regards M.Imran sridhar k <kopparsa > wrote: Dear ImranAll persons whose ascendent Sub Lord is JUP will exibit, the qualities ofJupiter.. They are considerate, they are believers in Justice,God, and tend tobe relegious . These are general Trends. The Ascendent of the Native should show the 3 lords (sign,Star,Sub) in theruling planets. Again one has to check with reference to the Actual Majorevents in Life.Are you a student of KP?good luck Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now.http://mailplus.Archives: vedic astrologyGroup info: vedic astrology/info.htmlTo UNSUBSCRIBE: Blank mail to vedic astrology-....... May Jupiter's light shine on us ....... Do you ? Mail Plus - Powerful. Affordable. Sign up now Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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