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Dear JK,

 

What was explicitly taught to me by Pt. Sanjay Rath (author of VRA

quoted by you) is this:

 

(1) Number of words gives the source house from which energy is drawn.

(2) Number of syllables gives the destination house where fruits are

given.

(3) Count the distance from the source house to the destination

house. Count the same number of houses from the destination house.

The resultant arudha house is the devata sthana - where the deity

sits.

 

For example, take "Om Gurave Namah". Source is the 3rd house,

destination is the 6th house and devata sthana is the 9th house of

Guru.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

> Dear Narsimhaji,

>

> I was following the recent strings on mantras. plz pardon me for

raising a

> basic question. You have told,

>

> "If you say "Om NamoBhagavate Vaasudevaaya" many many times,

Vaasudeva

> (Vishnu) will sit in your 9th house, take all the energies present

in your

> 3rd house (courage, desire, initiative etc) and direct them towards

> detachment and moksha (12th house)."

>

> As per VR (page 379-380), this mantra has 3 letters. So it will

draw energy

> from 3rd house..it has 8 letters, so deity will sit in 8th house and

> manifest results of houses 5th from it..i.e 12th house.

>

> But you have told that the diety will sit in 9th house. Am I missing

> something here? Plz clear my doubts. Most probably I am not able to

> understand it correctly.

>

> Regards

>

> jk

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Dear Narasimha rao ji,

Now I also have got a doubt.For example the Mantra OM KLEEM KRISHNYA GOVINDAAYA

GOPIJANA VALLABHAAYA SWAHA.has a total of 7 words and a total of 19

syllables.So now how you will do this ?Will you divide the 19 by 12 and the

remainder is again 7,that means the mantra Devatha sits in Lagna only. or is it

sits on 10th house ?

Please clarify my doubts.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

 

"pvr108 <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear JK,What was explicitly taught to me by Pt. Sanjay Rath (author of VRA

quoted by you) is this:(1) Number of words gives the source house from which

energy is drawn.(2) Number of syllables gives the destination house where

fruits are given.(3) Count the distance from the source house to the

destination house. Count the same number of houses from the destination house.

The resultant arudha house is the devata sthana - where the deity sits.For

example, take "Om Gurave Namah". Source is the 3rd house, destination is the

6th house and devata sthana is the 9th house of Guru.May Jupiter's light shine

on us,Narasimha> Dear Narsimhaji,> > I was following the recent strings on

mantras. plz pardon me for raising a> basic question. You have told,> > "If you

say "Om NamoBhagavate Vaasudevaaya" many many times, Vaasudeva> (Vishnu) will

sit in your 9th house, take all the energies present in your> 3rd house

(courage, desire, initiative etc) and direct them towards> detachment and

moksha (12th house)."> > As per VR (page 379-380), this mantra has 3 letters.

So it will draw energy> from 3rd house..it has 8 letters, so deity will sit in

8th house and> manifest results of houses 5th from it..i.e 12th house.> > But

you have told that the diety will sit in 9th house. Am I missing> something

here? Plz clear my doubts. Most probably I am not able to> understand it

correctly.> > Regards> > jkArchives:

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Dear Narasimha ji,

Sorry,by typo error,KRISHNYAYA has become KRISHNYA.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

"pvr108 <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear JK,What was explicitly taught to me by Pt. Sanjay Rath (author of VRA

quoted by you) is this:(1) Number of words gives the source house from which

energy is drawn.(2) Number of syllables gives the destination house where

fruits are given.(3) Count the distance from the source house to the

destination house. Count the same number of houses from the destination house.

The resultant arudha house is the devata sthana - where the deity sits.For

example, take "Om Gurave Namah". Source is the 3rd house, destination is the

6th house and devata sthana is the 9th house of Guru.May Jupiter's light shine

on us,Narasimha> Dear Narsimhaji,> > I was following the recent strings on

mantras. plz pardon me for raising a> basic question. You have told,> > "If you

say "Om NamoBhagavate Vaasudevaaya" many many times, Vaasudeva> (Vishnu) will

sit in your 9th house, take all the energies present in your> 3rd house

(courage, desire, initiative etc) and direct them towards> detachment and

moksha (12th house)."> > As per VR (page 379-380), this mantra has 3 letters.

So it will draw energy> from 3rd house..it has 8 letters, so deity will sit in

8th house and> manifest results of houses 5th from it..i.e 12th house.> > But

you have told that the diety will sit in 9th house. Am I missing> something

here? Plz clear my doubts. Most probably I am not able to> understand it

correctly.> > Regards> > jkArchives:

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Dear Ramadas Rao ji,

 

> Dear Narasimha rao ji,

> Now I also have got a doubt.For example the Mantra OM KLEEM

KRISHNYA GOVINDAAYA GOPIJANA VALLABHAAYA SWAHA.has a total of 7 words

and a total of 19 syllables.So now how you will do this ?Will you

divide the 19 by 12 and the remainder is again 7,that means the

mantra Devatha sits in Lagna only. or is it sits on 10th house ?

> Please clarify my doubts.

> With best regards,

> Ramadas Rao.

 

Suppose the source and destination are in the 7th house. If you

measure the houses from the 7th house to the 7th house, you have only

house. Measuring one house from the 7th house, you get 7th house

itself. So the devata sthana is the 7th house.

 

However, "gopijana vallabhaaya" is technically one word here. If you

have "gopijanaanaam vallabhaaya" it is two words. When samaasam

(compound word) is made by removing the vibhakti pratyayam of the

first word, one big compound word is formed. Here that is the case.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

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Dear Narasimha Rao ji,

Thank you for clarifying my doubts.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

"pvr108 <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear Ramadas Rao ji,> Dear Narasimha rao ji,> Now I also have got a doubt.For

example the Mantra OM KLEEM KRISHNYA GOVINDAAYA GOPIJANA VALLABHAAYA SWAHA.has

a total of 7 words and a total of 19 syllables.So now how you will do this

?Will you divide the 19 by 12 and the remainder is again 7,that means the

mantra Devatha sits in Lagna only. or is it sits on 10th house ?> Please

clarify my doubts.> With best regards,> Ramadas Rao.Suppose the source and

destination are in the 7th house. If you measure the houses from the 7th house

to the 7th house, you have only house. Measuring one house from the 7th house,

you get 7th house itself. So the devata sthana is the 7th house.However,

"gopijana vallabhaaya" is technically one word here. If you have "gopijanaanaam

vallabhaaya" it is two words. When samaasam (compound word) is made by removing

the vibhakti pratyayam of the first word, one big compound word is formed. Here

that is the case.May Jupiter's light shine on us,NarasimhaArchives:

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Respected Narasimhaji/Ramdass Rao and other knowledgeable teachers,

I have been watching this topic for some time.If I may intervene, as I

understand "Om Namah Shivaay" has always been called as panchakshari mantra.

Now if the line of reasoning in the ongoing discussion is to be accepted it

would be counted as different number of words according to who is trying to

decipher it.Were the ancient sages wrong in calling the above mantra as

Panchakshari? Please enlighten me.

Reagrds,

Chandrashekhar.

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Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Monday, January 06, 2003 2:46 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mantra-Query-Narsimhaji

OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Dear Narasimha rao ji, Now I also have got a doubt.For

example the Mantra OM KLEEM KRISHNYA GOVINDAAYA GOPIJANA VALLABHAAYA SWAHA.has a

total of 7 words and a total of 19 syllables.So now how you will do this ?Will

you divide the 19 by 12 and the remainder is again 7,that means the mantra

Devatha sits in Lagna only. or is it sits on 10th house ? Please clarify my

doubts. With best regards, Ramadas Rao. "pvr108 <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>"

<pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Dear JK,What was explicitly taught to me by Pt. Sanjay

Rath (author of VRA quoted by you) is this:(1) Number of words gives the source

house from which energy is drawn.(2) Number of syllables gives the destination

house where fruits are given.(3) Count the distance from the source house to

the destination house. Count the same number of houses from the destination

house. The resultant arudha house is the devata sthana - where the deity

sits.For example, take "Om Gurave Namah". Source is the 3rd house, destination

is the 6th house and devata sthana is the 9th house of Guru.May Jupiter's light

shine on us,Narasimha> Dear Narsimhaji,> > I was following the recent strings on

mantras. plz pardon me for raising a> basic question. You have told,> > "If you

say "Om NamoBhagavate Vaasudevaaya" many many times, Vaasudeva> (Vishnu) will

sit in your 9th house, take all the energies present in your> 3rd house

(courage, desire, initiative etc) and direct them towards> detachment and

moksha (12th house)."> > As per VR (page 379-380), this mantra has 3 letters.

So it will draw energy> from 3rd house..it has 8 letters, so deity will sit in

8th house and> manifest results of houses 5th from it..i.e 12th house.> > But

you have told that the diety will sit in 9th house. Am I missing> something

here? Plz clear my doubts. Most probably I am not able to> understand it

correctly.> > Regards> > jkArchives:

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Dear Chandrashekar ji,

As you said the Panchakshara Mantra is NAMAHASHIVAYA.Om is added as a

pranavakshara giving life to this powerful Mantra.There are too many meanings

for OM.

With best regards,

Ramadas Rao.

Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Respected Narasimhaji/Ramdass Rao and other knowledgeable teachers,

I have been watching this topic for some time.If I may intervene, as I

understand "Om Namah Shivaay" has always been called as panchakshari mantra.

Now if the line of reasoning in the ongoing discussion is to be accepted it

would be counted as different number of words according to who is trying to

decipher it.Were the ancient sages wrong in calling the above mantra as

Panchakshari? Please enlighten me.

Reagrds,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Monday, January 06, 2003 2:46 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mantra-Query-Narsimhaji

OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Dear Narasimha rao ji, Now I also have got a doubt.For

example the Mantra OM KLEEM KRISHNYA GOVINDAAYA GOPIJANA VALLABHAAYA SWAHA.has a

total of 7 words and a total of 19 syllables.So now how you will do this ?Will

you divide the 19 by 12 and the remainder is again 7,that means the mantra

Devatha sits in Lagna only. or is it sits on 10th house ? Please clarify my

doubts. With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

"pvr108 <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Dear JK,What was explicitly

taught to me by Pt. Sanjay Rath (author of VRA quoted by you) is this:(1) Number

of words gives the source house from which energy is drawn.(2) Number of

syllables gives the destination house where fruits are given.(3) Count the

distance from the source house to the destination house. Count the same number

of houses from the destination house. The resultant arudha house is the devata

sthana - where the deity sits.For example, take "Om Gurave Namah". Source is

the 3rd house, destination is the 6th house and devata sthana is the 9th house

of Guru.May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha> Dear Narsimhaji,> > I was

following the recent strings on mantras. plz pardon me for raising a> basic

question. You have told,> > "If you say "Om NamoBhagavate Vaasudevaaya" many

many times, Vaasudeva> (Vishnu) will sit in your 9th house, take all the

energies present in your> 3rd house (courage, desire, initiative etc) and

direct them towards> detachment and moksha (12th house)."> > As per VR (page

379-380), this mantra has 3 letters. So it will draw energy> from 3rd house..it

has 8 letters, so deity will sit in 8th house and> manifest results of houses

5th from it..i.e 12th house.> > But you have told that the diety will sit in

9th house. Am I missing> something here? Plz clear my doubts. Most probably I

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OM NAMHASHIVAYA is called shadaxshari mantra.

 

With best regards,

Sadashiv.

Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Dear Chandrashekar ji, As you said the Panchakshara

Mantra is NAMAHASHIVAYA.Om is added as a pranavakshara giving life to this

powerful Mantra.There are too many meanings for OM. With best regards, Ramadas

Rao. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Respected Narasimhaji/Ramdass Rao and other knowledgeable teachers,

I have been watching this topic for some time.If I may intervene, as I

understand "Om Namah Shivaay" has always been called as panchakshari mantra.

Now if the line of reasoning in the ongoing discussion is to be accepted it

would be counted as different number of words according to who is trying to

decipher it.Were the ancient sages wrong in calling the above mantra as

Panchakshari? Please enlighten me.

Reagrds,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Monday, January 06, 2003 2:46 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mantra-Query-Narsimhaji

OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Dear Narasimha rao ji, Now I also have got a doubt.For

example the Mantra OM KLEEM KRISHNYA GOVINDAAYA GOPIJANA VALLABHAAYA SWAHA.has a

total of 7 words and a total of 19 syllables.So now how you will do this ?Will

you divide the 19 by 12 and the remainder is again 7,that means the mantra

Devatha sits in Lagna only. or is it sits on 10th house ? Please clarify my

doubts. With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

"pvr108 <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Dear JK,What was explicitly

taught to me by Pt. Sanjay Rath (author of VRA quoted by you) is this:(1) Number

of words gives the source house from which energy is drawn.(2) Number of

syllables gives the destination house where fruits are given.(3) Count the

distance from the source house to the destination house. Count the same number

of houses from the destination house. The resultant arudha house is the devata

sthana - where the deity sits.For example, take "Om Gurave Namah". Source is

the 3rd house, destination is the 6th house and devata sthana is the 9th house

of Guru.May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha> Dear Narsimhaji,> > I was

following the recent strings on mantras. plz pardon me for raising a> basic

question. You have told,> > "If you say "Om NamoBhagavate Vaasudevaaya" many

many times, Vaasudeva> (Vishnu) will sit in your 9th house, take all the

energies present in your> 3rd house (courage, desire, initiative etc) and

direct them towards> detachment and moksha (12th house)."> > As per VR (page

379-380), this mantra has 3 letters. So it will draw energy> from 3rd house..it

has 8 letters, so deity will sit in 8th house and> manifest results of houses

5th from it..i.e 12th house.> > But you have told that the diety will sit in

9th house. Am I missing> something here? Plz clear my doubts. Most probably I

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Dear Ramadas rao,

Thank you.This is precisely what I was trying to convey.

Chandrashekhar.

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Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:33 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mantra-Query-Narsimhaji

OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Dear Chandrashekar ji, As you said the Panchakshara

Mantra is NAMAHASHIVAYA.Om is added as a pranavakshara giving life to this

powerful Mantra.There are too many meanings for OM. With best regards, Ramadas

Rao. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Respected Narasimhaji/Ramdass Rao and other knowledgeable teachers,

I have been watching this topic for some time.If I may intervene, as I

understand "Om Namah Shivaay" has always been called as panchakshari mantra.

Now if the line of reasoning in the ongoing discussion is to be accepted it

would be counted as different number of words according to who is trying to

decipher it.Were the ancient sages wrong in calling the above mantra as

Panchakshari? Please enlighten me.

Reagrds,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Monday, January 06, 2003 2:46 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mantra-Query-Narsimhaji

OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Dear Narasimha rao ji, Now I also have got a doubt.For

example the Mantra OM KLEEM KRISHNYA GOVINDAAYA GOPIJANA VALLABHAAYA SWAHA.has a

total of 7 words and a total of 19 syllables.So now how you will do this ?Will

you divide the 19 by 12 and the remainder is again 7,that means the mantra

Devatha sits in Lagna only. or is it sits on 10th house ? Please clarify my

doubts. With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

"pvr108 <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Dear JK,What was explicitly

taught to me by Pt. Sanjay Rath (author of VRA quoted by you) is this:(1) Number

of words gives the source house from which energy is drawn.(2) Number of

syllables gives the destination house where fruits are given.(3) Count the

distance from the source house to the destination house. Count the same number

of houses from the destination house. The resultant arudha house is the devata

sthana - where the deity sits.For example, take "Om Gurave Namah". Source is

the 3rd house, destination is the 6th house and devata sthana is the 9th house

of Guru.May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha> Dear Narsimhaji,> > I was

following the recent strings on mantras. plz pardon me for raising a> basic

question. You have told,> > "If you say "Om NamoBhagavate Vaasudevaaya" many

many times, Vaasudeva> (Vishnu) will sit in your 9th house, take all the

energies present in your> 3rd house (courage, desire, initiative etc) and

direct them towards> detachment and moksha (12th house)."> > As per VR (page

379-380), this mantra has 3 letters. So it will draw energy> from 3rd house..it

has 8 letters, so deity will sit in 8th house and> manifest results of houses

5th from it..i.e 12th house.> > But you have told that the diety will sit in

9th house. Am I missing> something here? Plz clear my doubts. Most probably I

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Dear Sadashivji,

I think you are making a mistake please check up again. Ramadasji has explained

the correct position.Omkar denotes various things including source of origin of

our universe.Therefore Om releases the energy of the Mantra which is

panchakshari. I wanted to highlight the fact that counting syllables and words

without understanding the import of the Mantra could give wrong numerical

values, as was being done in the discussion. I am but a student but could not

help point out the anamoly.

Chandrashekhar.

-

Sadashiv Dharwarkar

vedic astrology

Tuesday, January 07, 2003 1:54 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mantra-Query-Narsimhaji

Dear Chandrashekarji, OM NAMHASHIVAYA is called shadaxshari mantra. With best

regards, Sadashiv. Ramadas Rao <ramadasrao (AT) (DOT) co.in> wrote:

OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Dear Chandrashekar ji, As you said the Panchakshara

Mantra is NAMAHASHIVAYA.Om is added as a pranavakshara giving life to this

powerful Mantra.There are too many meanings for OM. With best regards, Ramadas

Rao. Chandrashekhar <boxdel (AT) (DOT) co.uk> wrote:

Respected Narasimhaji/Ramdass Rao and other knowledgeable teachers,

I have been watching this topic for some time.If I may intervene, as I

understand "Om Namah Shivaay" has always been called as panchakshari mantra.

Now if the line of reasoning in the ongoing discussion is to be accepted it

would be counted as different number of words according to who is trying to

decipher it.Were the ancient sages wrong in calling the above mantra as

Panchakshari? Please enlighten me.

Reagrds,

Chandrashekhar.

-

Ramadas Rao

vedic astrology

Monday, January 06, 2003 2:46 AM

Re: [vedic astrology] Re: Mantra-Query-Narsimhaji

OM KLEEM KRISHNAYA NAMAHA Dear Narasimha rao ji, Now I also have got a doubt.For

example the Mantra OM KLEEM KRISHNYA GOVINDAAYA GOPIJANA VALLABHAAYA SWAHA.has a

total of 7 words and a total of 19 syllables.So now how you will do this ?Will

you divide the 19 by 12 and the remainder is again 7,that means the mantra

Devatha sits in Lagna only. or is it sits on 10th house ? Please clarify my

doubts. With best regards, Ramadas Rao.

"pvr108 <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net>" <pvr (AT) charter (DOT) net> wrote: Dear JK,What was explicitly

taught to me by Pt. Sanjay Rath (author of VRA quoted by you) is this:(1) Number

of words gives the source house from which energy is drawn.(2) Number of

syllables gives the destination house where fruits are given.(3) Count the

distance from the source house to the destination house. Count the same number

of houses from the destination house. The resultant arudha house is the devata

sthana - where the deity sits.For example, take "Om Gurave Namah". Source is

the 3rd house, destination is the 6th house and devata sthana is the 9th house

of Guru.May Jupiter's light shine on us,Narasimha> Dear Narsimhaji,> > I was

following the recent strings on mantras. plz pardon me for raising a> basic

question. You have told,> > "If you say "Om NamoBhagavate Vaasudevaaya" many

many times, Vaasudeva> (Vishnu) will sit in your 9th house, take all the

energies present in your> 3rd house (courage, desire, initiative etc) and

direct them towards> detachment and moksha (12th house)."> > As per VR (page

379-380), this mantra has 3 letters. So it will draw energy> from 3rd house..it

has 8 letters, so deity will sit in 8th house and> manifest results of houses

5th from it..i.e 12th house.> > But you have told that the diety will sit in

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Dear Narsimhaji,

 

Thanks for clearing the doubt

 

jk

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[vedic astrology] Re: Mantra-Query-Narsimhaji

Dear JK,What was explicitly taught to me by Pt. Sanjay Rath (author of VRA

quoted by you) is this:(1) Number of words gives the source house from which

energy is drawn.(2) Number of syllables gives the destination house where

fruits are given.(3) Count the distance from the source house to the

destination house. Count the same number of houses from the destination house.

The resultant arudha house is the devata sthana - where the deity sits.For

example, take "Om Gurave Namah". Source is the 3rd house, destination is the

6th house and devata sthana is the 9th house of Guru.May Jupiter's light shine

on us,Narasimha> Dear Narsimhaji,> > I was following the recent strings on

mantras. plz pardon me for raising a> basic question. You have told,> > "If you

say "Om NamoBhagavate Vaasudevaaya" many many times, Vaasudeva> (Vishnu) will

sit in your 9th house, take all the energies present in your> 3rd house

(courage, desire, initiative etc) and direct them towards> detachment and

moksha (12th house)."> > As per VR (page 379-380), this mantra has 3 letters.

So it will draw energy> from 3rd house..it has 8 letters, so deity will sit in

8th house and> manifest results of houses 5th from it..i.e 12th house.> > But

you have told that the diety will sit in 9th house. Am I missing> something

here? Plz clear my doubts. Most probably I am not able to> understand it

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