ADMIN: Under moderation for a while (A letter to Sanjay)

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Namaste friends,

 

I am the owner and moderator of this list. I have stated many times

that this list is only for discussing astrology.

 

The following mail obviously does not fall under that category. It

was originally posted to the vyasa list, a private forum meant only

for SJC gurus. Somehow or the other, this private discussion entered

the public domain now. In case this mail was posted here without the

approval of Pt. Gauranga Das and he did not want his private

discussion to become public, I give him a chance to clarify his

position here and disown this discussion at the public level. I also

give a chance to Pt. Sanjay Rath in case he wants to respond.

 

NOBODY ELSE WILL BE ALLOWED TO SPEAK ON THIS TOPIC.

 

Please go back to astrology. This list will be under moderation for a

few days.

 

May Jupiter's light shine on us,

Narasimha

 

vedic astrology, "Anne Rutherford"

<annelrutherford@h...> wrote:

>

> : Dear Gurudeva Sanjayji,

> :

> : Pranaams.

> :

> : I'm writing this email while Lagna is in Cpricorn and it holds

9th lord

> : Mercury, as well as 9th having Moon and Guru is exalted but

retrograde in

> : the 7th house. Eversince Dinanath posted those emails about you

and I

> : visited the Hyderabad conference I was wondering whether

everything was OK

> : with my being your Joytish shishya and you being my Jyotish Guru

or you

> : being a Jyotish Guru at all.

> :

> : I would like to say that I'm well wishing towards you and all

your past

> and

> : present shishyas, btu I would like to clarify my doubts finally.

I wanted

> to

> : do it in a priuvate letter to you but since you didn't give an

email

> address

> : that you read over there in Puri. I resort to this list of Gurus

because I

> : hope they are also interested to see clear in these issues.

> :

> : Ath the time fo Dinanath's attack on you I felt his rage, so I

chose not

> to

> : get involved. I was in no financial transaction with you so far,

so I was

> : not so much concerned with money matters, I just wanted your

reputation to

> : be unblemished (which means that I was convinced that you were not

> involved

> : in any cheating and thus it was not correct to blame you). I

alsodid not

> : object against Swee offering you donations and I also had the

intention to

> : collect some funds for you myself. I feel obliged to you for the

knolwedge

> : that you have given me, and this debt is there. But My first

concern is to

> : make this relationship very clear and transparent, free from any

doubts,

> and

> : I hope in this spirit I can be very honest with you. Therefore I

would

> like

> : to sak you to address my doubts listed herewith. I can verify

these things

> : in other ways also, if I would still doubt your answers but I

start out

> with

> : the presumption that all you have said to me so far or will say

here is

> : truth. We could at least expect this from a Jyotish Guru.

> :

> : 1. Who is your diksha-guru and which mantras have you received

from him?

> :

> : 2. Who is your Jyotish Guru and what is hsi lineage back to the

> Maharishis?

> :

> : 3. Where is Sri Achyuta Das manetioned in any Vaishnava

literature? The

> : information on web says that his followers advocate puja of

demigods like

> : Durga etc. and have no sadhana which is unlikely for any authentic

> Vaishnava

> : parampara or associate of Sri Caitanya. I have heard you several

times

> : claiming that you are trying to be a Vaishnava and follower of Sri

> Caitanya.

> :

> : 4. The mantras that you are giving to your shishyas are received

from

> whom?

> : Which guru and which parampara? Padma Purana says that sampradaya

vihina

> ye

> : mantras te nishphala mataa, i.e. no mantras will bear fruit if

they are

> not

> : handled down in a parampara.

> :

> : 5. As you claim to be a Vaishnava, a Brahmin and a follower fo Sri

> Caitanya,

> : how do you account for the following habits of yours (some of

which I have

> : seen personally)?

> :

> : smoking cigarettes, drinking tea and coffee, eating onions and

garlic,

> : accepting massage from your female disciples. These were seen by

me

> : personally. Other witnesses reported that your wife is non

vegetarian so

> it

> : might be very difficult for you to keep a fully vegetarian diet or

> : worshipping Deities in that house. I also heard that she wants to

divorce

> : you. Others have also seen you drunk on several occasions. The

ones I have

> : seen you can't deny but what about the rest?

> :

> : I hope you agree that even for a regular Vedic Brahmin these

habits are

> : unacceptable, nto to speak of a Vaishnafa or a follower of Lord

Caitanya.

> :

> : 6. I haven't seen you doing any regular Sadhana, mantra chanting

or puja,

> or

> : sandhya-vandanam (chanting of the Gayatri mantra at the

sandhyas). Have I

> : missed something?

> :

> : 7. What happened to all of your initial Delhi shishyas that I knew

> : personally (Ashok, Manpreet, Sarat, Raju, Niraj et al.) I have

all their

> : contact data, so I can check if all of them feel cheated

financially and

> : astrologically and hold a grudge against you.

> :

> : 8. What happened to the loan depostis you took from these people

> (especally

> : Raju and Vijadeep)? They claim they never got the loans nor their

money

> : back? The amount claimed from you by different people comes upto

30 lakhs

> Rs

> : at least.

> :

> : 9. Why did you not pay the remaining $1500 for Dinanatha's

computer that

> you

> : are usung at the present time? He claims that you have borrowed

more money

> : from him on several occasions.

> :

> : 10. Are you aware that an official police complaint is filled

aganist you

> in

> : Delhi by Raju and Vijadeep for chetaing the with money? If you

are, then

> why

> : did you not reveal this fact to all the Jyotish gurus at least if

not to

> the

> : whole of SJC.

> :

> : 11. You are claiming that Kusha Mata supports your case but do

you know

> that

> : she has documented all these facts coming from your initial Delhi

> students?

> :

> : As I have said I'm benevolent towards you and I give you a chance

to

> clarify

> : all these accusations. The financial ones need very good evidence

to be

> : cleared. The rest would be possible to clear only if you change

your

> : lifestyle and this si witnessed by several shishyas including me.

> :

> : On the other hand, if all of the above proves to be true, I think

it is

> : improper for you to head a Jyotish organization like SJC or claim

to be a

> : Jyotish Guru and you should publicly clarify your position before

your

> : shishyas get into trouble in front of the court because of being

involved

> in

> : your organization.

> :

> : As a conclusion, I must admit that I have learned a lot from you

and have

> : met brilliant Jyotisha in SJC especially Narasimha and Sri Goelji

so I

> : should be thankful for this. Still I can't hold myself from

seeking purity

> : in philosophical, moral and financial sense in the field of

Jyotish.

> : Therefore I pray to Lord Jagannatha that this issue became

clarified as

> soon

> : as possible and everyone became aware of the truth. And

furhtermore, I

> think

> : that in this, as in every Vedic science, the purity of conduct,

thinking

> and

> : intention is the topmost truth, all the rest may come only after

this. I'm

> : writing this letter on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, who wants to

assure

> that

> : I'm in good hands in my study of Jyotish and no one will blame

ISKCON for

> : its members getting involved with Jyotish Gurus having a bad

reputation.

> :

> : Your shishya,

> :

> : Gauranga das