Fwd: A letter to Sanjay

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> > : -

> > : Gauranga Das

> > : vyasa

> > : Friday, December 27, 2002 4:29 AM

> > : A letter to Sanjay

> > :

> > :

> > : Dear Gurudeva Sanjayji,

> > :

> > : Pranaams.

> > :

> > : I'm writing this email while Lagna is in Cpricorn and it holds 9th

>lord

> > : Mercury, as well as 9th having Moon and Guru is exalted but retrograde

>in

> > : the 7th house. Eversince Dinanath posted those emails about you and I

> > : visited the Hyderabad conference I was wondering whether everything

>was

>OK

> > : with my being your Joytish shishya and you being my Jyotish Guru or

>you

> > : being a Jyotish Guru at all.

> > :

> > : I would like to say that I'm well wishing towards you and all your

>past

> > and

> > : present shishyas, btu I would like to clarify my doubts finally. I

>wanted

> > to

> > : do it in a priuvate letter to you but since you didn't give an email

> > address

> > : that you read over there in Puri. I resort to this list of Gurus

>because

>I

> > : hope they are also interested to see clear in these issues.

> > :

> > : Ath the time fo Dinanath's attack on you I felt his rage, so I chose

>not

> > to

> > : get involved. I was in no financial transaction with you so far, so I

>was

> > : not so much concerned with money matters, I just wanted your

>reputation

>to

> > : be unblemished (which means that I was convinced that you were not

> > involved

> > : in any cheating and thus it was not correct to blame you). I alsodid

>not

> > : object against Swee offering you donations and I also had the

>intention

>to

> > : collect some funds for you myself. I feel obliged to you for the

>knolwedge

> > : that you have given me, and this debt is there. But My first concern

>is

>to

> > : make this relationship very clear and transparent, free from any

>doubts,

> > and

> > : I hope in this spirit I can be very honest with you. Therefore I would

> > like

> > : to sak you to address my doubts listed herewith. I can verify these

>things

> > : in other ways also, if I would still doubt your answers but I start

>out

> > with

> > : the presumption that all you have said to me so far or will say here

>is

> > : truth. We could at least expect this from a Jyotish Guru.

> > :

> > : 1. Who is your diksha-guru and which mantras have you received from

>him?

> > :

> > : 2. Who is your Jyotish Guru and what is hsi lineage back to the

> > Maharishis?

> > :

> > : 3. Where is Sri Achyuta Das manetioned in any Vaishnava literature?

>The

> > : information on web says that his followers advocate puja of demigods

>like

> > : Durga etc. and have no sadhana which is unlikely for any authentic

> > Vaishnava

> > : parampara or associate of Sri Caitanya. I have heard you several times

> > : claiming that you are trying to be a Vaishnava and follower of Sri

> > Caitanya.

> > :

> > : 4. The mantras that you are giving to your shishyas are received from

> > whom?

> > : Which guru and which parampara? Padma Purana says that sampradaya

>vihina

> > ye

> > : mantras te nishphala mataa, i.e. no mantras will bear fruit if they

>are

> > not

> > : handled down in a parampara.

> > :

> > : 5. As you claim to be a Vaishnava, a Brahmin and a follower fo Sri

> > Caitanya,

> > : how do you account for the following habits of yours (some of which I

>have

> > : seen personally)?

> > :

> > : smoking cigarettes, drinking tea and coffee, eating onions and garlic,

> > : accepting massage from your female disciples. These were seen by me

> > : personally. Other witnesses reported that your wife is non vegetarian

>so

> > it

> > : might be very difficult for you to keep a fully vegetarian diet or

> > : worshipping Deities in that house. I also heard that she wants to

>divorce

> > : you. Others have also seen you drunk on several occasions. The ones I

>have

> > : seen you can't deny but what about the rest?

> > :

> > : I hope you agree that even for a regular Vedic Brahmin these habits

>are

> > : unacceptable, nto to speak of a Vaishnafa or a follower of Lord

>Caitanya.

> > :

> > : 6. I haven't seen you doing any regular Sadhana, mantra chanting or

>puja,

> > or

> > : sandhya-vandanam (chanting of the Gayatri mantra at the sandhyas).

>Have

>I

> > : missed something?

> > :

> > : 7. What happened to all of your initial Delhi shishyas that I knew

> > : personally (Ashok, Manpreet, Sarat, Raju, Niraj et al.) I have all

>their

> > : contact data, so I can check if all of them feel cheated financially

>and

> > : astrologically and hold a grudge against you.

> > :

> > : 8. What happened to the loan depostis you took from these people

> > (especally

> > : Raju and Vijadeep)? They claim they never got the loans nor their

>money

> > : back? The amount claimed from you by different people comes upto 30

>lakhs

> > Rs

> > : at least.

> > :

> > : 9. Why did you not pay the remaining $1500 for Dinanatha's computer

>that

> > you

> > : are usung at the present time? He claims that you have borrowed more

>money

> > : from him on several occasions.

> > :

> > : 10. Are you aware that an official police complaint is filled aganist

>you

> > in

> > : Delhi by Raju and Vijadeep for chetaing the with money? If you are,

>then

> > why

> > : did you not reveal this fact to all the Jyotish gurus at least if not

>to

> > the

> > : whole of SJC.

> > :

> > : 11. You are claiming that Kusha Mata supports your case but do you

>know

> > that

> > : she has documented all these facts coming from your initial Delhi

> > students?

> > :

> > : As I have said I'm benevolent towards you and I give you a chance to

> > clarify

> > : all these accusations. The financial ones need very good evidence to

>be

> > : cleared. The rest would be possible to clear only if you change your

> > : lifestyle and this si witnessed by several shishyas including me.

> > :

> > : On the other hand, if all of the above proves to be true, I think it

>is

> > : improper for you to head a Jyotish organization like SJC or claim to

>be

>a

> > : Jyotish Guru and you should publicly clarify your position before your

> > : shishyas get into trouble in front of the court because of being

>involved

> > in

> > : your organization.

> > :

> > : As a conclusion, I must admit that I have learned a lot from you and

>have

> > : met brilliant Jyotisha in SJC especially Narasimha and Sri Goelji so I

> > : should be thankful for this. Still I can't hold myself from seeking

>purity

> > : in philosophical, moral and financial sense in the field of Jyotish.

> > : Therefore I pray to Lord Jagannatha that this issue became clarified

>as

> > soon

> > : as possible and everyone became aware of the truth. And furhtermore, I

> > think

> > : that in this, as in every Vedic science, the purity of conduct,

>thinking

> > and

> > : intention is the topmost truth, all the rest may come only after this.

>I'm

> > : writing this letter on behalf of my Guru Maharaja, who wants to assure

> > that

> > : I'm in good hands in my study of Jyotish and no one will blame ISKCON

>for

> > : its members getting involved with Jyotish Gurus having a bad

>reputation.

> > :

> > : Your shishya,

> > :

> > : Gauranga das

 

 

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vedic astrology, "Anne Rutherford"

<annelrutherford@h...> wrote:

 

<snip>

 

Anne,

 

Why do you have to send an email from a private group (vyasa) to this

public vedic astrology list? What do you have to gain from all this?

 

Justin