Guest guest Posted December 28, 2002 Report Share Posted December 28, 2002 Aum Namah Shivaya Clearing a few myths about Cloning!!! ====================================== While I could write a hundred pages discussing cloning, genome, DNA, astrology, Nature vs Nurture etc, I will do a most needed simple thing in this post- An attempt to clear away certain myths about what cloning is and what it is not! And in as simple and as short explanations as possible. Read on. To start with Identical twins are very different from clones. And neither of them poses a threat to the rationale behind astrology, especially the clones. Identical twins: The story starts with ONE egg, which DIVIDES AND THEN both parts of the egg evolve into separate human beings. Scientists don't fully understand as to why the egg divides. Sexual reproduction is involved in this case. Cloning: In contrast, Cloning is a form of Asexual production (contrast it with **sexual **reproduction as in the case of identical twins). Unlike a twin, a clone will carry the genome of only ONE PARENT (or donor). While identical twins are GENETICALLY IDENTICAL and have the same genome, clones share the same nuclear DNA only. They DO NOT SHARE THE SAME MITOCHONDRIAL DNA. But identical twins share even this. Cutting the scientific jargon, let me just tell you the IMPLICATIONS in a layman's language. In spite of sharing the same mitochondrial DNA too, it is well known that Identical twins are neither physically nor behaviorally identical to each other. They differ in their belief systems and values as well as preferences (may I use the word Samskaras here for all such innate differences?). If this is the case with identical twins who share even the mitochondrial DNA, it doesn't need a Watson to guess what the case would be with clones who do NOT share the mitochondrial DNA and just share the nuclear DNA. But getting back to the identical twins (because they seemingly pose a more SEEMINGLY valid threat to astrology's rationale), let me acquaint you with the Nature vs Nurture debate. There are two major camps here. CAMP ONE: Holds that Human behaviour is PRIMARILY genetic. Main proponents: Lorenz, Barash Wilson, Dawkins, Lumsden and Wilson, and Trivers. All of them use various ARGUMENTS and try to convince us that human behavior is PRIMARILY genetic. And Hamilton, Maynard Smith and Axelrod give the theoretical support for it. CAMP TWO: Holds that Human behavior is PRIMARILY environmental. Main promoters: The Boston group, Schwartz, Gould, Sahlins and Dawkins. Both camps have their own arguments. I am sometimes tempted to believe that our behavior is PRIMARILY genetic. Yet the Environmental camp has some valid points to make. Even otherwise, if you have noticed I have typed in capitals the word PRIMARILY. So even if one camp succeeds in convincing a majority (highly doubtful as it goes deeper than that. Past experience with historical events suggests that scientific beliefs and paradigms too shift according to Cultural and Political SWINGS or CYCLES or whatever.) So I repeat that even if one camp succeeds in convincing a majority, then too the story is not about the WHOLE PICTURE, because the other factor becomes SECONDARY, which means that it still has a PROBABILITY. So we may rest content that the debate will probably never end. Just as in most philosophical debates, each time and culture favors one argument which will be replaced by the opposite at another time and under another cultural influence. Simply put, both have their roles to play. The argument is only about who gets the PRIMARY role. Astrology or rather Metaphysics provides the link as well as the deciding factor, the missing angle. Why are identical twins (I will not discuss the clones as they deserve even less attention in our argument) different in their belief systems, values, preferences etc? Is there something else too other than Nature vs Nurture? Or is there something that links them both meaningfully? Bringing my earlier point about Samskaras (individual preferences, belief systems and values), we as astrologers know that samskaras (character) are largely reflective of the SANCHITA, while the chart itself reveals mostly Prarabdha, though it may be possible to catch the faintest glimpse of character in the chart, at least character in the sense of Sanchita karmas's resultant Samskaras. Even in the case of NEAR-IDENTICAL CHARTS, I for one believe that it is FUTILE to attempt proving the differences between twins' lives using shastiamsas, sublords, or even sub-sublords! Birth charts reflect only Prarabdha, that too in a SYMBOLIC way. Human mind cannot understand SYBOLISM FULLY, for the day it understands, all distinction between the OBSERVED AND THE OBSERVED ceases. And the observer just will not tell us the result because he LOSES himself in the ONE. Yet for theoretical purpose let me clarify further. Even if it is possible to understand the symbolism of astrology (and thereby an individual's prarabdha), we are totally dark in the most important area- SANCHITA KARMAS. And Samskaras are based on Sanchita karma. Our actions, reactions and choices are based as much (if not more) on our Samskaras as on Prarabdha. If I give two people exactly the same BMWs. Can you tell me how they would drive? No. Because the DRIVERS are different. No doubt the man with a BMW COULD (that too if he is an accomplished driver) better with than if he were given a Hyundai Accent. But with the same car, different drivers drive differently. In the hands of a novice a BMW could be even dangerous! All the while, we do not seem to remember that though the charts are SEEMINGLY similar, THE DRIVERS (SOULS) ARE DIFFERENT. THEIR CHARACTERS ARE DIFFERENT. THEIR SANCHITA KARMAS ARE DIFFERENT AND THUS THEIR SAMSKARAS TOO. As for the clones, they definitely do not merit even a discussion, much less a debate! The genome is not deterministic of many significant physical and behavioral characteristics, because the environment acts upon the genetic POTENTIAL in some manner. And the poor Clone is in a different environment from his parent (technically the donor). Logically it is impossible to provide the same environment and parental influences etc as his donor/parent had. But as I said earlier, even in the case of identical twins, because of the samskaras and sanchita being different (or putting simply, the soul being different), I for one cannot treat it as an enigma to astrology. The enigma is in the mind, like all other illusion. Guess this clarifies some myths about clones, though like all philosophical debates, the one on identical twins could be carried on if the mind wants to chatter. And Yeah, chattering is fun at times...Interesting as well! Regards, Satya Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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