Re:Chart for SriKrishn

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Dear Dhira Krsna dasa

 

RAM KRISHN HARE

 

Traditionally Panchang makers all over india use same basis for

Kaliyug.

Such strong tradition can not be wrong.

 

Your date itself is in Navami so it must be wrong.Ayanansh do not

have any

effect on Tithi.This confirms that you need to go back from the said

date.

I do not consider Devlokansh condition important unless its

defination is

free from doubts.

 

I have read that Duryodhan was avatar of Kaliyug. So Kaliyug started

sometime after the death of Duryodhan.If we know the duration of

Yudhishthir's rule after war,we can fix time for mahabharat war.This

period will also provide the bounds for Kaliyug start.Yudhishthir

started

his own counting of years from Kaliyug-start.This is why we can link

it with

Srikrishn to narrow our search. The birth of Maharaja Pariksit

occured

shortly after the war(his mother was pragnant at the time of war).But

at

present,I do not have much idea about pandavas chart. Yesterday I

heard(TV program) that SriKrishn lived for 36 years after Mahabharat

War.

 

Some more comments:

Abhijeet is also a Muhurt-name(see 15 dwi-ghati muhurtas).

At mid-day and mid-night,Abhijeet yog prevails.this is not Ravi-

Chandr yog.

Krsna Ashtami of Sravana month in JHL definately indicates

Srikrishna's

birth tithi. but your date is wrong.Yugas are basic to hindu panchang.

and can not be corrupted/changed to suite such logics.

 

signs owned by the kendr lords from AL may not be only alternative.

why not Grah-arudh(swa=self) or A-2 (swa=2nd house) in place of AL?

The verse can have even more meanings.

 

Thanks

 

ANILKUMAR

 

OM TAT SAT

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You Wrote:

Don't dismiss the date given by Narasimha Rao on the basis of bias

regarding the start of Kali-yuga. After all, we do not know for sure

when

Kali-yuga started and this date may help us understand it better.

While I

was doing my own research on the start of Kali-yuga recently, I

calculated

using Deva-datta ayanamsa and found the date of around 2500 BC to be

correct. Now that Narasimha found this date so close to it, I am

inclined

to accept it as accurate. I only found the date of July 7th 2496 BC,

at

the exact start of Ashtami tithi at 0:13 to be correct. On that same

day,

the Moon is rising exactly at midnight at 23:57, but then is already

in

Mrgasira nakshatra and in Navami tithi. It would be just after

midnight on

the 7th July, ascendant should be Gemini instead of Taurus to put

Jupiter

and Venus in trines, which is the Jayanti yoga explained in the

scriptures, giving undying fame and glory. Exalted Moon in the 12th,

aspected by 12th lord and exalted Saturn should explain the separation

from mother, who was in the prison during His time in Vrndavan.

 

Do we know the reference of Yudhisthira's birth according to the date

of

Krsna, I mean the number of years of difference in age and his

birthdate?

Is it mentioned somewhere in sastra? It would be interesting to find

out

his chart, in order to be sure. Are there any references for the

charts of

the other Pandavas and of the birth of Maharaja Pariksit?

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Dear Anilkumar,

 

Hare Rama Krsna.

 

Yes, you are right concerning my date.

 

Just a few days ago I happened to read this. Please let me know what you

think?

 

While many scholars have given their varied opinions, here is a quote from

the "Sri Krsna-samhita", a book written by our acarya Srila Bhaktivinode

Thakur.

 

from Introduction pp. 27-29:

"Now we must determine when the Battle of Kuruksetra took place. Maharaja

Pariksit was born just after the battle. From the birth of Pariksit up to

the coronation of Nandivardhana (the fifth of the Pradyotana kings) was

1,115 years (Bhag. 12.2.26). Conningham Sahib and others say that the word

nandabhiseka in this previous footnote verse from the Srimad-Bhagavatam

refers to the first of the nine Nandas. But although the respected

Sridhara Swami also accepts this, he says the number is irrelevant.

Therefore we fearlessly accept this Nanda as Nandivardhana. Moreover, in

the Ninth Canto of the Srimad-Bhagavatam it is stated that 20 kings from

the dynasty of Brhadratha, beginning from Marjari up to Ripunjaya, would

rule for 1,000 years. The names of those 20 kings are also given in the

Twelfth Canto of the Srimad-Bhagavatam. Then, after five Pradyotana kings

rule for 138 years and ten Sisunaga kings rule for 360 years, the nine

Nandas will rule for 100 years. So if we refer to the first of the nine

Nandas, it will be about 1,500 years; but if we deduct the 23 years of

Nandivardhana's rule, then we have the correct figure of 1,115 years.

Again, in the Srimad-Bhagavatam it is stated that during the reign of King

Pariksit the constellation of the seven rsis took shelter in the naksatra

called Magha. When this constellation of the seven rsis crosses the

naksatras beginning with Magha through Jyaistha, then the age of Kali will

be 1,200 years old. ...... After his rule, during the reign of the other

Nandas, Kali became extemely prominent. This is also confirmed by

practical observation. After the fifth generation, Ajatasatru became the

king. During his reign, Sakyasimha preached Buddhism, in the form of

knowledge of self-realization devoid of a conception of the Infallible

(God). The Nandas were like cowherd men and were envious of eternal

religious principles. Asokavardhana even widely propagated Buddhism.

Gradually various castes like Sundhas ruled the kingdom and created many

obstacles in the path of religion. The total duration to the end of the

nine Nandas' rule was 1,598 years. Canakya Pandita killed the last of the

Nandas and gave the kingdom to the kings of the Maurya dynasty. According

to some opinions, King Dasaratha, and according to others, Candragupta was

the first king of the Maurya dynasty. During the time of Candragupta,

people from Greece visited India first with Alexander and later with

Seleucus. According to the opinions of Greek literature, the great

dynasties from Simhala, and the Buddhist history of Brahma-desa,

Candragupta took the throne 215 years before Christ. From this calculation

it may be understood that the Battle of Kuruksetra took place 3,791 years

ago from today. Dr. Bentley Sahib calculated the position of the stars

mentioned in the Mahabharata and decided that the battle of Kuruksetra

took place 1,824 years before Christ. When we compare his calculation with

mine there is a difference of 89 years. So either Bentley Sahib made a

mistake or the 1,000 years duration of the Barhadratha's rule was an

approximation that we have to deduct 89 years from. The future swanlike

scholars can determine the correct figures after further research."

 

 

 

Here today is meant with the year 1879 of our present calendar, since

Bhaktivinode Thakur refers to this date elsewhere in his book, and he

wrote his book in 1888.

 

Your sishya,

Dhira Krsna dasa

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hi all

plz check times of astrology magazine , there is a booklet free with new year

issue, in that there is a research work about chronology of mahabharata, and

lord krishna’s birth tmings...i dont know how right it is...

prashant

Dhira Krsna BCS <Dhira.Krsna.BCS (AT) pamho (DOT) net> wrote:

Dear Anilkumar,Hare Rama Krsna.Yes, you are right concerning my date.Just a few

days ago I happened to read this. Please let me know what youthink?While many

scholars have given their varied opinions, here is a quote fromthe "Sri

Krsna-samhita", a book written by our acarya Srila BhaktivinodeThakur.from

Introduction pp. 27-29:"Now we must determine when the Battle of Kuruksetra

took place. MaharajaPariksit was born just after the battle. From the birth of

Pariksit up tothe coronation of Nandivardhana (the fifth of the Pradyotana

kings) was1,115 years (Bhag. 12.2.26). Conningham Sahib and others say that

the wordnandabhiseka in this previous footnote verse from the

Srimad-Bhagavatamrefers to the first of the nine Nandas. But although the

respectedSridhara Swami also accepts this, he says the number is

irrelevant.Therefore we fearlessly accept this Nanda as Nandivardhana.

Moreover, inthe Ninth Canto of the Srimad-Bhagavatam it is stated that 20 kings

fromthe dynasty of Brhadratha, beginning from Marjari up to Ripunjaya, wouldrule

for 1,000 years. The names of those 20 kings are also given in theTwelfth Canto

of the Srimad-Bhagavatam. Then, after five Pradyotana kingsrule for 138 years

and ten Sisunaga kings rule for 360 years, the nineNandas will rule for 100

years. So if we refer to the first of the nineNandas, it will be about 1,500

years; but if we deduct the 23 years ofNandivardhana's rule, then we have the

correct figure of 1,115 years.Again, in the Srimad-Bhagavatam it is stated that

during the reign of KingPariksit the constellation of the seven rsis took

shelter in the naksatracalled Magha. When this constellation of the seven rsis

crosses thenaksatras beginning with Magha through Jyaistha, then the age of

Kali willbe 1,200 years old. ...... After his rule, during the reign of the

otherNandas, Kali became extemely prominent. This is also confirmed bypractical

observation. After the fifth generation, Ajatasatru became theking. During his

reign, Sakyasimha preached Buddhism, in the form ofknowledge of

self-realization devoid of a conception of the Infallible(God). The Nandas were

like cowherd men and were envious of eternalreligious principles. Asokavardhana

even widely propagated Buddhism.Gradually various castes like Sundhas ruled the

kingdom and created manyobstacles in the path of religion. The total duration to

the end of thenine Nandas' rule was 1,598 years. Canakya Pandita killed the last

of theNandas and gave the kingdom to the kings of the Maurya dynasty.

Accordingto some opinions, King Dasaratha, and according to others, Candragupta

wasthe first king of the Maurya dynasty. During the time of Candragupta,people

from Greece visited India first with Alexander and later withSeleucus.

According to the opinions of Greek literature, the greatdynasties from Simhala,

and the Buddhist history of Brahma-desa,Candragupta took the throne 215 years

before Christ. From this calculationit may be understood that the Battle of

Kuruksetra took place 3,791 yearsago from today. Dr. Bentley Sahib calculated

the position of the starsmentioned in the Mahabharata and decided that the

battle of Kuruksetratook place 1,824 years before Christ. When we compare his

calculation withmine there is a difference of 89 years. So either Bentley Sahib

made amistake or the 1,000 years duration of the Barhadratha's rule was

anapproximation that we have to deduct 89 years from. The future

swanlikescholars can determine the correct figures after further research."Here

today is meant with the year 1879 of our present calendar, sinceBhaktivinode

Thakur refers to this date elsewhere in his book, and hewrote his book in

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